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About Randy from USA: MC is my favorite artist of all time and I love her songwriting skills on her introspective songs. My favorite album: Butterfly. My favorite song: Right To Dream.

Legacy (102,605) by Randy from USA One of the things that bother me with the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens is the over celebration of AIWFCIY. A few years ago the older Stans were on here arguing what MC's signature song was. We tentatively settled on Hero. But now it's clear what she's going to be known for if this yearly record keeps happening. I think that the noise around that song fades away some of the most amazing singer songwriter compositions ever recorded. Mariah Carey is more than some relic you drag out of the closet and dust off on November 1st. Another damaging thing that the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens celebrate is her whistle register. Yes it is lovely. But that register doesn't make a great singer. I remember in the promotion for Emotions she said she didn't use it more on the track because she didn't want it to become a gimmick. She laid off it quite a bit on Music Box and Daydream but when the voice changed around #1s it was on full display for Rainbow. I think it's a crutch used to prove she can still sing. But if you have lost your belting register, are you gonna whistle your next albums? I just worry that Mariah's career is in a bleak spot and people are shining spotlights on things that narrow her legacy to a whistling Christmas act. Thoughts? (Saturday 22 April 2023; 03:34)

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,595) by Randy from USA I do agree that MC is going to lose fans if she doesn't release an album soon, however, I don't know if releasing a studio album is profitable for her anymore. I'm noticing that Cardi B hasn't released her second album. Many other acts wait a long time between albums. We got spoiled by the 90s. Maybe MC could give as an EP or a maxi-single with different versions like I Still Believe or My All/Stay Awhile. It would have to be a killer single though not an Infinity or I Don't. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 23:43)

New Mariah titles (one word) (102,552) by Randy from USA I love Reign but it does sound like a greatest hits title. And the last thing we need is another repackaging of the number ones. I still say Harmony is the best out of all of our titles thus far. You know what else we don't need is another discussion by us or interview with MC discussing her race. That discussion is as tired as a whistle on a 14 minute version of Bliss. (Thursday 13 April 2023; 23:36) this is a reply to message 102,545

New Mariah titles (one word) (102,545) by Norman from USA Reign, dahling. Reign. (Thursday 13 April 2023; 06:14)

New Mariah titles (one word) (102,536) by Randy from USA So Bill, I wasn't feeling your list. So I asked AI for ten titles that were one word in keeping in line with Emotions, Daydream, Butterfly, Rainbow and Glitter. I still didn't like the list lol but I think Harmony is the best no? And she has already touched on a lot of these lol. Phoenix Radiance Serendipity Euphoria Enchantment Harmony Whimsy Mirage Infinity Nostalgia We must really be bored lol. (Wednesday 12 April 2023; 01:00)

I think an album is coming (102,519) by Randy from USA I think she always goes on vacation before promotion. In addition, it's been awhile since Caution. Furthermore, it's been quiet lately. We all know MC can make an album in three months. And for the record I like Rainbow. Her voice is not in great shape but she is the queen of studio magic. Even if MC is not signed, she can easily announce a signing and an album at the same time. What do y'all think? (Sunday 9 April 2023; 19:40)

Music Box (102,502) by Randy from USA I usually agree wit you Edward but to call MIAMTEC depressing is kinda funny. The second half of Music Box is slit your wrist fantastic. Never Forget You, Without You, Just To Hold You Once Again, All I Ever Wanted and if Sony had the balls to add Everything Fades Away it's the saddest thing since Terms of Endearment. All MC albums are sad to me. That's why I connect. I think MIAMTEC is her worst album but not because it's depressing. It's incoherent and her vocals sound like they were produced by AI. (Friday 7 April 2023; 16:11) this is a reply to message 102,501

Music Box (102,501) by Edward from USA I can assure you we all here supported her by buying the album, but put your feet on the ground and realize that MIAM didn't connect with the general public. The constant pushbacks, the messy rollout, fans are not to blame. Yes, there were some great songs and vocal moments, but the album is depressing and overproduced. I bought one for me and gifted one, I bought the singles and remixes, but I have rarely listened to the album since its release. While Caution didn't have any vocal moments, it's far superior, in my humble opinion. If you don't grow with your fans, you lose them. Her remaining fans can make much difference at this point, don't put that on us. We've been here patiently waiting for five effing years for new music, we've been supporting any hyped-up half-cooked new songs she puts out every now and then. I know she has to breastfeed the little twins, but come on. We need another Caution but with some vocal moments and more tracks. (Friday 7 April 2023; 13:24)

I miss album (102,478) by Randy from USA Butterfly will always be my favorite experience. Music Box and Daydream stole me from Whitney to Mariah. Oh don't get me wrong. Whitney will always be the better vocalist. Just not the better voice. But even still, what I got from MC was the personal experience. The alienation of Looking In, Close My Eyes and Outside. I feel as though Celine and Whitney never got that personal at the time. Madonna and Janet did but they didn't have the voices. MC was the balance. And when I listen to the lyrics of Butterfly, My All and Breakdown, there will never ever be another album experience like Butterfly. (Thursday 6 April 2023; 00:12) this is a reply to message 102,477

I miss albums (102,477) by Edward from USA I totally agree with you. Having an album, a theme, the lyrics on a carefully crafted CD insert was simply a pleasant journey. I remember rushing home with the Butterfly CD still unopened in in my hands. The anticipation felt like having butterflies in my stomach, such a surreal moment, at least for me. Since I hadn't listened to anything other than the "Honey Maxi Single", I almost died when "Butterfly" kicked. I miss those days. (Wednesday 5 April 2023; 23:06)

I miss albums (102,472) by Randy from USA Edward, I get your single idea but it breaks my heart. I feel like an album wouldn't benefit her in this current music industry. But how I miss the anticipation. I miss it being a project. Having a theme. I know it's for the nostalgia but remember waiting outside of Sam Goody or Tower Records? Remember struggling to get that plastic tape off the top of the CD? We don't get liner notes and pictures anymore. It's just sad. Imagine if movies weren't a thing and you just got a scene at a time. Imagine if a baseball game was one inning and everyone went home. I feel like an album is like a novel. A page is special but you need the entire story. (Wednesday 5 April 2023; 16:24)

Observation (102,443) by Randy from USA I never listed reasons I didn't like MC anymore. I do like MC or else I wouldn't be here. I just wanted to prove a point. MC does what no other singer has ever done in history. Excuse herself relentlessly. And Terna, you were very gracious in your counter to me. A lot more gracious than I would expect. I think I'm developing a crush. At the end of the day, I have a 24x36 of MC in my living room. I am obsessed. Maybe that's why I pick everything apart. Because I actually care too much. Good night y'all. Webmaster thanks for always letting me post. (Sunday 2 April 2023; 12:22) this is a reply to message 102,437

Observation (102,437) by Lady B from USA You're arguing with yourself. I never called anyone evil, I just said folks hiding behind "actually, we're the real fans because we care enough to speak up" show who they really are by not acknowledging her anniversary, a simple yet non-trivial act if one is a fan of someone. That you list all the reasons you don't like her anymore as "receipts" of some argument you're having with yourself doesn't disprove my point (quite the contrary that you spent so much time putting that together but couldn't wish her a happy anniversary). I'll hang up and listen whilst you yell at the clouds. Peace. (Sunday 2 April 2023; 04:35)

Observation (102,434) by Randy from USA As tired as you are of us picking Mariah apart, we are tired of being told that we are not fans and we are evil people. Nobody's mad because MC doesn't have the same voice as 1990. Hell, she didn't even have the same voice in 1998. The real issue is the deception and the excuses. How did she go from saying publicly, :I would never lip sync" in the 90s to lip syncing most of her climaxes in 99 and beyond? And then not telling us what happened? I didn't want to do this on this board but a few years ago, I put together all of MCs excuses. In her own words. I don't ever argue without receipts. Oh and I still love MC. You can view the video here. (Sunday 2 April 2023; 01:02) this is a reply to message 102,431

Observation (102,431) by Lady B from USA So much so that folks can't bring themselves to wish her Happy Anniversary? Come on now. Also, assuming what you say is true, do Michael Jordan fans constant bemoan him because he cannot jump the same way he did when he was 23? (Saturday 1 April 2023; 21:38)

Divas week has officially begun (102,371) by Randy from USA Break out your sequins, egos and melisma. Divas week has officially begun. Birthdays to celebrate: 3/22 Stephanie Mills 3/23 Chaka Khan 3/25 Aretha Franklin 3/26 Diana Ross 3/27 Mariah Carey 3/30 Celine Dion (Wednesday 22 March 2023; 11:49)

MTV 90's (102,342) by Randy from USA Mariah should be given the video vanguard award. My favorite is Heartbreaker but Honey isn't too far behind. I also love the Through The Rain video. You know who else has not gotten the video vanguard award? Paula Abdul. I think it's a shame Nikki got it before MC and Paula. (Sunday 12 March 2023; 13:47) this is a reply to message 102,341

MTV 90's (102,341) by Lainsky from Philippines Most people are not watching TV nowadays because of the internet. Well, last night, I missed browsing the channel and stopped at the MTV channel. They were showing the 50 Greatest Heartbreak Songs of the '90s on their MTV '90s Hits program. There's Celine Dion, Whitney, Bryan Adams, All-4-One, and of course, Mariah Carey at No. 2 with "Without You", and Toni Braxton's Unbreak My Heart is at No.1. It brings a lot of memories. I remember I was waiting for any Mariah videos every chance I got. But the most memorable was when Honey was released. My jaw dropped seeing the new Mariah then. That music video remains her best for me. The same goes with the Butterfly album, the other single videos, especially Breakdown and The Roof almost. What a throwback weekend. (Sunday 12 March 2023; 04:15)

Remixes (102,325) by Randy from USA I don't know if I told y'all this but I started replacing the album tracks with the rap or remix version of her songs. I put the Bad Boy Remix of Honey with Mase and the Lox as track one of Butterfly. I also switched out The Roof and Breakdown with the longer rap versions that were on the maxi-singles. I replaced Fantasy with the Bad Boy mix. That's the one with both the pop hook and r&b hook and ODB. I replaced Obsessed with the one with Gucci Mane and replaced Up Out My Face with the one with Nicki's rap. I also replaced Angel's Cry for the duet version with Neyo. On my Club/Hip Hop playlist I have My All/Stay Awhile. On my Dance playlist I absolutely live for the 13 minute Through The Rain Mix Hex Hector did, the 12 minute Fantasy David Morales Mix, the My All Classic Club Mix (even though I'm sick of feel ya body, feel ya body, feel ya body), I also have both the I Still Believe mixes (the kings mix and the club mix). Finally the Don't Forget About Us Ralphi Rosario & Craig J Mix is awesome. (Thursday 9 March 2023; 22:51) this is a reply to message 102,322

Remixes (102,322) by Edward from USA Mariah is definitely the queen of great remixes, as in her maxi singles were like mini albums. My speakers suffered a stroke since I blasted the Honey and Heartbreaker maxi singles so much, it had to be put on life support. Many of her remixes were far superior than the original. She was definitely a tour de force. (Thursday 9 March 2023; 13:36)

The real reason for no respect (102,308) by Randy from USA I was drunk when I wrote that post. Forgive me. St. John the Divine, If It's Over at the Grammys, Emotions at MTV Unplugged, Home for the Holidays and Impromptu for Jimmy Fallon exists. And she sang her ass off. I would like to apologize to my MCA family. I think what's frustrating me is that the diva antics, getting her makeup done on stage and lighting comments, as well as the repeated phrase, most people don't realize I write all of my songs, was shoved down the public's throat and I know those talking points were to distract from her being coined one of the greatest singers of all time when her voice deteriorated hella fast without explanation. (Wednesday 8 March 2023; 00:12) this is a reply to message 102,306

The real reason for no respect (102,306) by Tevin from USA I usually agree with you Randy, but public performances such as Can't Let Go, If It's Over Grammys and SNL, begs to differ. But other than that I do agree with what you said. (Tuesday 7 March 2023; 17:19)

The real reason for no respect (102,291) by Randy from USA If you listen to early producers on her album, Narada Michael Walden for example, MC was a perfectionist. She re recorded I Don't Wanna Cry one hundred times until it was perfect. The audience has never seen a showy performance the likes of Whitney, Patti or Christina. And y'all keep talking about the nuances of her voice but to be honest the public doesn't care. Look how nervous she was singing Vision of Love at the 91 Grammys. Fixing her dress constantly. A flat run on "love". She had an amazing voice but didn't know what to do with it. Live performances make you and the only time I've ever seen MC sing beyond what the record entailed was Tokyo Dome in 96. As a songwriter she was unmatched. A friend of mine recently said, she was probably better off as a songwriter producer and Tommy forced her to be a singing star. (Monday 6 March 2023; 00:11)

Chaka Khan (102,274) by Randy from USA Said Mariah was ranked #5 on Rolling Stone's best singers of all time due to payola. Basically implying Mariah getting all of her props due to paying out money. I love Chaka Khan but she downtalked Adele, Mary J. Blige as well because they ranked ahead of her. Chaka Khan was #29. I would think that someone who has been in the business for so long would know better to take journalists' bait to create sound bites. Clips from interviews in which you talk bad about people who outsell you make you sound bitter. And when your wigs look like you skinned Snuffleupagus and you have had a drug/alcohol problem for over 50 years, you really shouldn't throw stones anywhere near your glass house. (Thursday 2 March 2023; 20:35)

Did ya'll know? (102,272) by Randy from USA I was putzing around on the internet and discovered that Vanilla Ice won the 1991 Favorite New Artist American Music Award over Mariah Carey. (Thursday 2 March 2023; 16:13)

Third Diamond album (102,245) by Randy from USA Sony needs to present Mariah Carey for a diamond certification. Now that we will never see diamond albums anymore, it's important to give Mariah her plaques. (Tuesday 21 February 2023; 16:42)

New picture (102,164) by Randy from USA I struggle with weight. I can't imagine what it's like to be in the public eye with paparazzi outside your building. But why does it seem MCs weight goes up and down so much and so quickly. Maybe this is a bad angle. But I swear it reminds me of the parody Debra Wilson and MadTV did with the "I'm Not Insane" where she sings the line as MC, "Although my weight, does fluctuate." Any thoughts on this phenomenon where MC goes from a size 6 to a size 16 in a matter of two months? (Wednesday 1 February 2023; 02:11)

If you could... (102,147) by Randy from USA There is an album squeezed in between Music Box and Daydream. It's called Merry Christmas. I kid. I kid. I think Mariah gave us enough output until Memoirs. She's taking longer gaps now. MCIIY, MIAMTEC and Caution are my least favorite albums. I just want quality at this point. Something mature. Adult. Unplugged. Unassisted. (Saturday 28 January 2023; 21:54) this is a reply to message 102,145

If you could... (102,145) by Jamie from UK If you could have one extra album squeezed in over the years where would you want it? I think I’d have liked another album squeezed in before Daydream. Music box has always been my favourite and I think with those vocals and adult contemporary/pop style I would have liked another album of similar style. (Saturday 28 January 2023; 18:38)

I owe Mariah's earpiece an apology (102,128) by Randy from USA So the Dubai concert Beyonce did has taken over my TikTok. I noticed one thing. She was singing a note and started fiddling with her ear monitor. I thought that was something only MC did when she knew she sounded bad to fool the audience into thinking she couldn't hear herself and there were technical issues. I will say Beyoncé sounded fine when she was messing with it so maybe she couldn't hear herself. I notice Mariah does it every time she's on television but at any rate, does anyone have any knowledge on this topic? Why do people have to adjust the volume on them? Isn't this what a sound check is for? Why are they necessary at all? What did singers do in the 60s and 70s when they didn't have the option to have them? (Wednesday 25 January 2023; 17:55)

Memoirs is underrated (102,111) by Randy from USA I feel like the album is underrated and too long. I don't begrudge any of the songs but did Ribbon, More Than Just Friends, Standing O or Inseparable add anything to her catalogue? I do love Languishing though. It's actually one of my most played songs by her right now. (Sunday 22 January 2023; 22:40) this is a reply to message 102,100

Memoirs is underrated (102,100) by jaker20 from US Its A Wrap is going viral. The TikToks are just discovering this gem of an album. There is no fillers in this album. (Friday 20 January 2023; 20:08)

Top posters (101,918) by Randy from USA I need to get a life. I don't know why I've been posting so much this year, probably because I've been very emotional. Imagine that, a MC fan being emotional? Speaking of which, jaker20 that was a beautiful message. Many have said it here before, we are a dysfunctional family. We argue but I want nothing but the best for MC and all of you guys Eric Bill Stacey Andrew Enwar Robert Anthony and Terna. Happy holidays. Oh and don't forget MC comes on CBS tonight. (Tuesday 20 December 2022; 12:58)

Whoopi Goldberg mocks Mariah (101,899) by Randy from USA I tend to agree. I don't want Mariah's legacy to be Christmas. I know I'm hard on her live performances but words can express what her music means to me. Through The Rain got me up and to work for years when I was stressed. Right to Dream was my go to when I was drunk and depressed. Outside is my being gay and ostracized in the 90s anthem. Close My Eyes is my PTSD song from being born with all the antics that come from a 15 year old mother and a 21 year old father. All I Want For Christmas is nice. But it's hardly anywhere on the soundtrack of my life. I actually listen to O Holy Night and Oh Santa more. Not because I don't like AIWFCIY, but because I know if I leave the house any time after thanksgiving, I'll hear it. (Monday 19 December 2022; 17:19) this is a reply to message 101,898

Whoopi Goldberg mocks Mariah (101,898) by Carlos from Brazil Darlene Love can have that poor and shitty "Queen of Christmas" title. I've always tought Mariah was much more that to anyone. She is the "Queen of Music". Nothing less. (Monday 19 December 2022; 17:01)

Why is everyone surprised? (101,876) by Randy from USA You know what's funny. Even Eric the webmaster on this board attacked me when I said that the 2006 Grammy performance was a cut and paste job. Mariah literally sang an adlib and then the next adlib was the backing track. Watch it again. I don't think bashing MC is cool and edgy. What I really feel is that MC was the 8th wonder of the world vocally. Something happened between Tokyo 1996 and Oprah 1997. We never got any explanation. But while all these other singers who have been around belting before and after Mariah, Patti Labelle, Whitney Houston, Gladys Knight, Regina Belle, Chaka Khan, are going about their business what we get to defend our diva is excuses. Her voice is different; it's sensitive, humidifiers, the ear monitor, the casket was in front of her, the air conditioning was on, the heat was on, nodules. I don't want to be right. I don't want to be the one that was right about MC's throat implosion. I'd rather her say something. One of the things I've told you guys over and over is that I live a different lifestyle than you. All of my friends are Stan's of different divas. Do you know how much ish I get as MC's representative? Recently I was given Chante Moore's performance at Soul Train and the caption said Mariah who? Would any of you, in 1995 thought Chante Moore would be able to outsing MC? MC came out in 90. Chante came out in 92. Oh wait I know. MC had to sing so much more. The nodules. The lighting. The casket. The HVAC. (Saturday 17 December 2022; 16:57) this is a reply to message 101,866

Why is everyone surprised? (101,866) by Steven Berning from USA Don't be a follower. He thinks he's being cool and edgy. Don't give in to mob mentality. (Saturday 17 December 2022; 08:34)

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