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That rare flower that is Mariah's voice (113,275) by MusicfanJ from Germany The funny thing is most people don't like her trademark "the whistle". I loved it on her debut and "Emotions". There are fantastic songs like "Dreamlover", "Bliss" and "Bringin' on the heartbreak" with her epic whistle. But it was clearly overused and not needed in many other songs. Her deeper tone has the real magic. But I would be afraid of surgery, if it's not needed, because of health issues. I guess there's always a risk, no matter how good a doctor is. I would first try to loose the bad habits and relax. (Tuesday 17 February 2026; 11:43) this is a reply to message 113,274

That rare flower that is Mariah's voice (113,274) by Zachariah from Croatia I would do it in a a second. I can live without her whistles. Sometimes, they can get pretty annoying in some songs. (Tuesday 17 February 2026; 09:01)

That rare flower that is Mariah's voice (113,274) by Zachariah from Croatia I would do it in a a second. I can live without her whistles. Sometimes, they can get pretty annoying in some songs. (Tuesday 17 February 2026; 09:01) this is a reply to message 113,269

That rare flower that is Mariah's voice (113,269) by Giovanni from USA That's why I want her to get the nodules removed. I know it's not my voice and I myself do not like the idea of being put under the knife but I think I'd do it. I would recommend Mariah get Dr. Steven Marc Zeitels, the man who did Adele's surgery. I read somewhere that the only risk would be Mariah losing her whistle register. Would any of you do the surgery if it meant getting your voice back and being able to sing again? (Tuesday 17 February 2026; 00:48)

That rare flower that is Mariah's voice (113,273) by Shezz from Pk There is a YouTube channel called VMariah and they have released several videos on the evolution of her voice, its downfall etc (mostly focusing on her live performances) all while remaining very respectful to her and even hopeful. I came across a new one the other day where they speculate that she might have had a reconstruction surgery in 2023 after LA Pride when she disappeared for 4 months and how it changed the tone of her voice completely but had mixed affects. Interesting take on it since her voice is always up and center in discussion. They even did a series called the Art of Lipsyncing which showed how and when she started incorporating playbacks decade wise. (Tuesday 17 February 2026; 06:00) this is a reply to message 113,269

That rare flower that is Mariah's voice (113,269) by Giovanni from USA That's why I want her to get the nodules removed. I know it's not my voice and I myself do not like the idea of being put under the knife but I think I'd do it. I would recommend Mariah get Dr. Steven Marc Zeitels, the man who did Adele's surgery. I read somewhere that the only risk would be Mariah losing her whistle register. Would any of you do the surgery if it meant getting your voice back and being able to sing again? (Tuesday 17 February 2026; 00:48)

Sweetheart (113,272) by Lighty from China Live snippets here we go. (Tuesday 17 February 2026; 03:14) this is a reply to message 113,270

Sweetheart (113,270) by Giovanni from USA I had no idea it was a cover either lol. If you have a stereo system "Sweetheart" sounds great on it. I'm always singing "You love I need your love", "Romance". I would love to hear Mariah do a live snippet. (Tuesday 17 February 2026; 00:52)

We can't be friends by Ariana Grande (113,271) by Giovanni from USA This is the hit song Mariah needed for HFIA. When I first listened to it for some reason I thought of Mariah and her current voice. I wish she had done a song with that type of music. I think it's one of Ariana's best songs and becoming one of my favorites. I think they should both write a song together one day. (Tuesday 17 February 2026; 01:02)

Sweetheart (113,270) by Giovanni from USA I had no idea it was a cover either lol. If you have a stereo system "Sweetheart" sounds great on it. I'm always singing "You love I need your love", "Romance". I would love to hear Mariah do a live snippet. (Tuesday 17 February 2026; 00:52) this is a reply to message 113,266

Sweetheart (113,266) by Lainsky from Philippines I love it too, Giovanni. Try listening to the original. You can find it on YT. Mariah and JD made it better. I did not know it was a remake. I only found out a decade later, lol. It occurred to me that all the additional singles on her No. 1s are remakes, except for "When You Believe", which is also on Whitney's album. (Monday 16 February 2026; 03:57)

That rare flower that is Mariah's voice (113,269) by Giovanni from USA That's why I want her to get the nodules removed. I know it's not my voice and I myself do not like the idea of being put under the knife but I think I'd do it. I would recommend Mariah get Dr. Steven Marc Zeitels, the man who did Adele's surgery. I read somewhere that the only risk would be Mariah losing her whistle register. Would any of you do the surgery if it meant getting your voice back and being able to sing again? (Tuesday 17 February 2026; 00:48) this is a reply to message 113,262

That rare flower that is Mariah's voice (113,262) by John from USA I'd like to think of Mariah's voice as that rare flower that only blooms once every few decades (maybe centuries) - beautiful, exquisite, and unique in its fragrance, yet fragile and short-lived. There was a time in the early 90s where I thought (heck, bragged to friends) that what Mariah can sing is only limited by the heights of her imagination and creativity. L ooking back though, there has always been glimpses that Mariah's voice has always been fragile. Even at the very beginnings of her career, she has always stated she would wake up everyday not fully knowing how many octaves of her voice she can access one day versus the next. Her voice, while she was young, responded to her usual vocal rests and humidifiers, but became less and less reliable as the years went by. It didn't help that she had such difficult songs to sing, that required her to use as much vocal real estate compared to the other members of the vocal trinity. I saw one video that analyzed how Whitney never really went to the extremes of her vocal range (higher and lower extremes) in her concerts. Celine resorted to masterfully miming the high notes and belts early on, which likely helped preserve her voice for much longer. The latter two, by the way, are also natural sopranos. Mariah is a natural alto with soprano capabilities. That she is able to match and even go beyond what these two sopranos could reach vocally is amazing in and of itself. As Mariah got older, the good days (reliable days with wider access to her full vocal range) had become fewer and fewer, with less reliable days became more the norm. I can imaging how that would have been an even bigger handicap to her stage fright. She was a vocal natural, honed further by whatever informal training she got from her opera singer mother. As these unreliable days became more frequent, she eventually developed bad (compensatory) vocal techniques. It didn't help that she did nothing to correct this by getting more vocal rest, or changing her lifestyle and giving up bad habits. Despite all these however, what remains is Mariah's distinctive and unmatched tone. You'll see Whitney and Celine vocal impersonators left and right, some quite convincing in their mimicry, but there is no one that can fully embody Mariah's unique tone. It's amazing how in the latter years, with each album, I notice a little bit more vocal strain and vocal decline. And yet, when I listen to those more recent albums, I still find something I'd appreciate about that distinctive voice, worn and torn as it had been. She is a vocal athlete who did feats I used to marvel at. But just like an Olympic athlete who can no longer win a gold medal decades later, I will not hold that against her that she can no longer match those feats three decades later. She is the ultimate vocal Olympian. Her voice is one of a kind and I am glad to have experienced it and awoken to it in my formative years. As a child, this once little boy had never listened to radio before, until Mariah came along. This is why I became a fan, and remain one to this day. (Sunday 15 February 2026; 22:18)

Type Dangerous: MC and the Epstein files (113,268) by Giovanni from USA Like Stella, who we all miss haha. (Tuesday 17 February 2026; 00:40) this is a reply to message 113,265

Type Dangerous: MC and the Epstein files (113,265) by Bobby A from United States Tommy pursued Mariah and crossed the boundary between a boss and his employee. MC trusted Tommy thinking he would heal her childhood wounds and guide her career. I think MC has always looked for a male friend or partner to give her that fatherly guidance that she longed for from Alfred Roy. L.A. Reid comes to my mind being that positive father figure in her life and career. If you could pull back the many layers of her traumatic childhood, you would understand why she gravitated towards certain men and women after Tommy. (Monday 16 February 2026; 02:02)

Type Dangerous: MC and the Epstein files (113,267) by Edward from USA It just dawned on me that according to your logic, anyone who's ever crossed paths with a criminal is automatically guilty by association. If so, Mariah should be burned at the stake for the crimes of Diddy and R. Kelly, and we're all going to hell every time we listen to "Honey" and " Betcha Gon Know". That's not moral reasoning, it's medieval thinking, dahling. Being mentioned anywhere near the Epstein files is not proof of wrongdoing, and pretending it is doesn't magically make it true. Your take on her "morally perverted upbringing" is especially gross, diagnosing someone you don't know, based on speculation you can't back up. That doesn't sound insightful, it sounds like projection to me. If simply knowing the wrong people makes someone morally tainted, then by your own standard you must live a perfectly sanitized life. In that case, congrats, sainthood awaits. Amazon has customizable halos, just in case. And really, who are you supposed to be, the moral police? Get off your high horse. For the rest of us, evidence still matters. (Monday 16 February 2026; 18:37) this is a reply to message 113,264

Type Dangerous: MC and the Epstein files (113,264) by Geronimo from USA It just dawned on me that MC had 2 romantic relationships with men in the infamous Epstein files: Tommy Mattola and James Packer. If we throw in Sean Combs, Brett Ratner and Naomi Campbell, also associates with MC, we get a clearer sense of how patterns from her morally perverted upbringing seem to have impacted her capacity to make sound choices as an adult. I hope she has a superhuman therapist for herself and her twin children. (Sunday 15 February 2026; 23:10)

Sweetheart (113,266) by Lainsky from Philippines I love it too, Giovanni. Try listening to the original. You can find it on YT. Mariah and JD made it better. I did not know it was a remake. I only found out a decade later, lol. It occurred to me that all the additional singles on her No. 1s are remakes, except for "When You Believe", which is also on Whitney's album. (Monday 16 February 2026; 03:57) this is a reply to message 113,263

Sweetheart (113,263) by Giovanni from USA Should have at the very least been an r&b hit. I had it on a loop today it's one of my favorites Mariah produced with JD. Her voice and vocals are perfect and there's nothing to complain about with this song. Of course if you don't like JD's part haha but I love JD so I like his verse. I hope they work together again for Mariah's next album. (Sunday 15 February 2026; 23:04)

Type Dangerous: MC and the Epstein files (113,265) by Bobby A from United States Tommy pursued Mariah and crossed the boundary between a boss and his employee. MC trusted Tommy thinking he would heal her childhood wounds and guide her career. I think MC has always looked for a male friend or partner to give her that fatherly guidance that she longed for from Alfred Roy. L.A. Reid comes to my mind being that positive father figure in her life and career. If you could pull back the many layers of her traumatic childhood, you would understand why she gravitated towards certain men and women after Tommy. (Monday 16 February 2026; 02:02) this is a reply to message 113,264

Type Dangerous: MC and the Epstein files (113,264) by Geronimo from USA It just dawned on me that MC had 2 romantic relationships with men in the infamous Epstein files: Tommy Mattola and James Packer. If we throw in Sean Combs, Brett Ratner and Naomi Campbell, also associates with MC, we get a clearer sense of how patterns from her morally perverted upbringing seem to have impacted her capacity to make sound choices as an adult. I hope she has a superhuman therapist for herself and her twin children. (Sunday 15 February 2026; 23:10)

Type Dangerous: MC and the Epstein files (113,264) by Geronimo from USA It just dawned on me that MC had 2 romantic relationships with men in the infamous Epstein files: Tommy Mattola and James Packer. If we throw in Sean Combs, Brett Ratner and Naomi Campbell, also associates with MC, we get a clearer sense of how patterns from her morally perverted upbringing seem to have impacted her capacity to make sound choices as an adult. I hope she has a superhuman therapist for herself and her twin children. (Sunday 15 February 2026; 23:10)

Sweetheart (113,263) by Giovanni from USA Should have at the very least been an r&b hit. I had it on a loop today it's one of my favorites Mariah produced with JD. Her voice and vocals are perfect and there's nothing to complain about with this song. Of course if you don't like JD's part haha but I love JD so I like his verse. I hope they work together again for Mariah's next album. (Sunday 15 February 2026; 23:04)

That rare flower that is Mariah's voice (113,262) by John from USA I'd like to think of Mariah's voice as that rare flower that only blooms once every few decades (maybe centuries) - beautiful, exquisite, and unique in its fragrance, yet fragile and short-lived. There was a time in the early 90s where I thought (heck, bragged to friends) that what Mariah can sing is only limited by the heights of her imagination and creativity. L ooking back though, there has always been glimpses that Mariah's voice has always been fragile. Even at the very beginnings of her career, she has always stated she would wake up everyday not fully knowing how many octaves of her voice she can access one day versus the next. Her voice, while she was young, responded to her usual vocal rests and humidifiers, but became less and less reliable as the years went by. It didn't help that she had such difficult songs to sing, that required her to use as much vocal real estate compared to the other members of the vocal trinity. I saw one video that analyzed how Whitney never really went to the extremes of her vocal range (higher and lower extremes) in her concerts. Celine resorted to masterfully miming the high notes and belts early on, which likely helped preserve her voice for much longer. The latter two, by the way, are also natural sopranos. Mariah is a natural alto with soprano capabilities. That she is able to match and even go beyond what these two sopranos could reach vocally is amazing in and of itself. As Mariah got older, the good days (reliable days with wider access to her full vocal range) had become fewer and fewer, with less reliable days became more the norm. I can imaging how that would have been an even bigger handicap to her stage fright. She was a vocal natural, honed further by whatever informal training she got from her opera singer mother. As these unreliable days became more frequent, she eventually developed bad (compensatory) vocal techniques. It didn't help that she did nothing to correct this by getting more vocal rest, or changing her lifestyle and giving up bad habits. Despite all these however, what remains is Mariah's distinctive and unmatched tone. You'll see Whitney and Celine vocal impersonators left and right, some quite convincing in their mimicry, but there is no one that can fully embody Mariah's unique tone. It's amazing how in the latter years, with each album, I notice a little bit more vocal strain and vocal decline. And yet, when I listen to those more recent albums, I still find something I'd appreciate about that distinctive voice, worn and torn as it had been. She is a vocal athlete who did feats I used to marvel at. But just like an Olympic athlete who can no longer win a gold medal decades later, I will not hold that against her that she can no longer match those feats three decades later. She is the ultimate vocal Olympian. Her voice is one of a kind and I am glad to have experienced it and awoken to it in my formative years. As a child, this once little boy had never listened to radio before, until Mariah came along. This is why I became a fan, and remain one to this day. (Sunday 15 February 2026; 22:18)

A theory on Mariah's nodules (113,261) by Bobby A from United States I believe MC is going to do all that she can before recording her next album to get her voice back. (Sunday 15 February 2026; 20:42) this is a reply to message 113,260

A theory on Mariah's nodules (113,260) by Lighty from China Do you guys agree with what this video says? And there are also some little discussions about Mariah's nodules as well as her mental state in the comment section you might be interested in. (Sunday 15 February 2026; 12:58)

A theory on Mariah's nodules (113,260) by Lighty from China Do you guys agree with what this video says? And there are also some little discussions about Mariah's nodules as well as her mental state in the comment section you might be interested in. (Sunday 15 February 2026; 12:58)

The humble beginning (113,259) by Stacey from USA I watched that very video today. Wow, just wow. (Sunday 15 February 2026; 06:19) this is a reply to message 113,256

The humble beginning (113,256) by Lainsky from Philippines To the younger lambs, if you have not seen this raw footage of her live debut, where it all started, here it is. (Saturday 14 February 2026; 14:00)

MC's next album (113,258) by Giovanni from USA I agree, Butterfly was Mariah's escape from Tommy and she was able to be free and do the music she wanted. It's definitely probably her best album. (Sunday 15 February 2026; 00:24) this is a reply to message 113,254

MC's next album (113,254) by Lighty from China IMHO Butterfly, Charmbracelet, Memoirs are the three most personal albums from Mariah but Butterfly is and will always be "the" most personal one no matter what kind of album she puts out next. (Saturday 14 February 2026; 08:29)

MC's next album (113,257) by Bobby A from United States There is still another deeply personal album left in MC. Butterfly was a personal album because it was the album where she became liberated from a tough personal period in her life. One more personal album in 2029 may yield the Grammy moment that MC has been waiting for. Plus, Roc and Roe will be 18 years old in 2029. (Saturday 14 February 2026; 14:47) this is a reply to message 113,254

MC's next album (113,254) by Lighty from China IMHO Butterfly, Charmbracelet, Memoirs are the three most personal albums from Mariah but Butterfly is and will always be "the" most personal one no matter what kind of album she puts out next. (Saturday 14 February 2026; 08:29)

The humble beginning (113,256) by Lainsky from Philippines To the younger lambs, if you have not seen this raw footage of her live debut, where it all started, here it is. (Saturday 14 February 2026; 14:00)

Nodules (113,255) by Sasha from Nomansland For someone who always wanted to be recognized first and foremost for her writing skills, she really missed something. It could be an ego thing as you say. She still has many positive things to bring to the music world but no longer on stage in the way she does now. It doesn't work anymore. Her voice no longer does justice to her songs that's why I think she would be better off writing for other artists or pursue other ventures. (Saturday 14 February 2026; 11:32) this is a reply to message 113,249

Nodules (113,249) by jaker20 from US "I just don't understand why she didn't turn to write and produce for other artists. It could have been a second career. Too bad." She should have done it a long time ago, like 20 years ago just after TEOM. Maybe there's truth to allegations that she's jealous of young artists, so she continued to chase her own success instead. But that's around the right time for her to learn how to write for other artists, that's what the great pop artist who were great songwriters did, Paul McCartney, Carole King, Prince, etc. Now, the older she gets, the harder it is to write for others, and harder to collaborate. Because Mariah's songwriting process is very different. She needed to collaborate with musicians who play the harmony and she writes the words in her head from that harmony. And because she doesn't know how to collaborate with other artists in that way, the songwriting got rusty as well. I think Mariah's career got lucky with AIWFCIY because she's now able to rewrite her story and legacy, including inserting "songwriter" into it, which is what sets her apart from her contemporaries. But that legacy fails on close inspection because she really doesn't know how to write for others. (Friday 13 February 2026; 20:26)

MC's next album (113,254) by Lighty from China IMHO Butterfly, Charmbracelet, Memoirs are the three most personal albums from Mariah but Butterfly is and will always be "the" most personal one no matter what kind of album she puts out next. (Saturday 14 February 2026; 08:29) this is a reply to message 113,251

MC's next album (113,251) by Bobby A from United States Do you think MC's next album will have to be her most personal album to date? I think MC needs to create a body of work that has a bold relatable album title that makes the non-Lamb scrolling on social media say, "Hmmm?" The album has to read like a personal diary with an infusion of jazz, pop, dance, and R&B. I want to hear more of the good, the bad, and the ugly next time. MC is going have to make a bold personal statement with her next album like Jill Scott did today. (Saturday 14 February 2026; 00:39)

MC's next album (113,253) by Giovanni from USA I hope we don't have to wait another 7 years for the next album lol. And as you had mentioned Nostalgic or Nostalgia would be a good album title. It's strong and makes sense if Mariah wants to make a record that reminds her remaining fans of her past work. HFIA had potential with IYF and NII but as I brought up recently it really doesn't matter how good her next album is if the voice doesn't sound good. I am hoping something changes and she gets it back in better shape ala Caution. (Saturday 14 February 2026; 02:57) this is a reply to message 113,251

MC's next album (113,251) by Bobby A from United States Do you think MC's next album will have to be her most personal album to date? I think MC needs to create a body of work that has a bold relatable album title that makes the non-Lamb scrolling on social media say, "Hmmm?" The album has to read like a personal diary with an infusion of jazz, pop, dance, and R&B. I want to hear more of the good, the bad, and the ugly next time. MC is going have to make a bold personal statement with her next album like Jill Scott did today. (Saturday 14 February 2026; 00:39)

Nodules (113,252) by Giovanni from USA I love the AI version of "My love", f you ask me it would have fit perfectly on the Butterfly album. I would have swapped out "Whenever you call" as it's one of the few songs from Mariah I don't care for. I imagine "Jesus I do" in Music Box voice or Emancipation voice. Speaking of "Jesus I do", I want Mariah to work with Kirk Franklin for another gospel number. I love "Jesus I do" and I love "Fly like a bird". I feel "Fly like a bird" is a personal song for Mariah and one most of us love. I also have a great love for "I pray" and wished it was longer and had made it on TEOM. I wish we had gotten a gospel album in 2015 instead of another greatest hits none of us needed. (Saturday 14 February 2026; 02:43) this is a reply to message 113,248

Nodules (113,248) by Stacey from USA Well said. There is an AI version of My Love (Butterfly era) floating around the internet. Wow. Check that one out. There is one thing, though, that does unite all these vocal eras - the songwriter. No matter how Mariah's voice has changed, no matter what era is used to create an AI version of one of her songs, there is one constant in all of this - the songwriter. Those lyrics are truly what makes her music so special. (Friday 13 February 2026; 18:16)

MC's next album (113,251) by Bobby A from United States Do you think MC's next album will have to be her most personal album to date? I think MC needs to create a body of work that has a bold relatable album title that makes the non-Lamb scrolling on social media say, "Hmmm?" The album has to read like a personal diary with an infusion of jazz, pop, dance, and R&B. I want to hear more of the good, the bad, and the ugly next time. MC is going have to make a bold personal statement with her next album like Jill Scott did today. (Saturday 14 February 2026; 00:39)

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