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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,845) by Lighty from China
Beauty and the Beast was released in 1991 so Celine hadn't "just done" that song. The one before MHWGO was Because You Loved Me (for Up Close & Personal, 1996), the first single of her massive Falling Into You album.
(Thursday 1 January 2026; 03:17)
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Top posters 2025 (112,844) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
The year 2025 has come to an end, so it's time for lists.

Top posters in 2025
1. Bobby A from United States: 641 messages
2. Edward from USA: 406 messages
3. Lambi from USA: 337 messages
4. Dove from United States: 250 messages
5. MusicfanJ from Germany: 245 messages
6. Jamie from UK: 228 messages
7. Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter: 198 messages
8. Zachariah from Croatia: 187 messages
9. TJ from Norway: 183 messages
10. Stacey from USA: 178 messages
11. Giovanni from USA: 175 messages
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13. Bill from the UK: 153 messages
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15. T from USA : 119 messages
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1. Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter: 4134 messages
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(Thursday 1 January 2026; 01:32)
Article: Mariah Carey's twins tower over her (112,843) by Dove from United States
We rarely see Mariah's kids. It feels like a snap here and there on her social media and maybe a few moments in her concert videos. Most people don't follow Mariah like we do.

I like how Beyoncé had her daughter dancing on tour with her. I saw a short of her when she first started, vs at the end of the tour, and she improved so much in just that time. I like that because she can get a taste for what it's like onstage without the pressure of being the main star. Then she can decide if it's something she wants to do or not. I'm not sure that's why they're doing it but if it is I think it's a good plan. That would have been my dream when I was young.

I wonder if Mariah's kids can sing.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 23:16)
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Cowboy Carey (112,842) by Giovanni from USA
Mariah was serving looks in Aspen in her cowboy hats and outfits. She looked so good and glamorous and it made me think of "Help me make it through the night". A very nice song that showcases Mariah's talent and diversity as an artist and singer that she really can sing anything. What are your thoughts Mimi L?
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 20:50)
Daydream concert (112,841) by MusicfanJ from Germany
I'm just watching the Daydream concert on TV on 3sat. I will never get enough of it. A good way to start in the silvester evening.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 19:50)
Was Celine the original JLo? (112,840) by Lambi from USA
Titanic-themed doesn't mean a shot-for-shot remake. The overturned boat in the middle of the vast ocean, that she's singing on, is the clearest Titanic reference, it's the aftermath of the sinking. Funny you said all that but completely missed the most obvious visual cue.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 19:39)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,839) by Edward from USA
Probably "My All" was the theme song for a high-budget epic movie that the Evil King personally shelved the moment Mariah freed herself from the castle. Nothing is impossible... at all (unnecessary sustained high note here).
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 16:11)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,838) by MusicfanJ from Germany
The Titanic-themed My All video? Where is it Titanic themed? Serious question. There is a shell, a lighthouse, a male model and Mariah who's also looking like a top model.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 14:55)
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Mariah singing at the Oscar (112,837) by MusicfanJ from Germany
Yes absolutely. Or look at Pamela Anderson, she moved to the nature and changed her look. I was impressed by that change. I fear Mariah can't leave the showbiz behind her. We'll see what's going on next year. Yes, she'll always be the queen of the 90ies. That's why her famous Christmas song is from 94 too. She was unmatched back then. It was magical.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 14:47)
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Article: Mariah Carey's twins tower over her (112,836) by MusicfanJ from Germany
That's why I hope they don't get "mad" later when they are 18 or so like kids from other stars. I think it's very unhealthy to stay at the public if you're kid. There are so many sad examples. I just watched a new docu about Liza Minelli. It was very interesting and sad at the same time. To have a famous mother from that league isn't easy for sure.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 14:39)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,835) by BFF from United States
That is an interesting point. Mariah has mentioned that Tommy and her management kept her in the dark about movie offers and opportunities early on in her career, and I have always wondered what those opportunities were. And you're right, they did kind of trick Mariah into doing "When You Believe".

I still think Mariah would have turned down MHWGO; it just doesn't fit with the direction she took post-1996 - less adult contemporary, more creative control. Plus Mariah had bigger, better ballads planned for "Glitter" and probably felt that stuff she wrote was just as good or better than MHWGO.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 14:06)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,834) by Lambi from USA
I see what you mean. Whitney's voice was indeed nuanced but somehow she made IWALY work. Her falsettos are crystal clear and she places them throughout the song, tastefully, just enough for it to still be palatable to the masses. I think with soundtracks, it largely depends on the arrangement and instrumentation as well as the melody of the song itself. Céline and Whitney were incredibly lucky to be at the pinnacle of successful soundtracks. To me, Open Arms Mariah would have absolutely crushed a sappy, tear-jerking movie ballad. I really wish she had gotten the chance.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 12:46)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,833) by Lambi from USA
Your point was that Tommy didn't write it, therefore he couldn't offer it. You hyper-focused on the word "offer" when the point was simply that Mariah should have at least been considered. The writers already had Celine in mind since they had worked together on Power of the Dream just a year earlier, but that ultimately meant nothing because Celine went on to reject MHWGO anyway. She was sick of doing soundtracks. It took serious convincing from both Tommy and Renee to get her to record it. It was not smooth or automatic.

My broader point is that Tommy is in the room. Walter is in the room. Celine actively did not want to do it. The other obvious elephant in the Sony room is Mariah. Realistically though, because it was 1997, that option probably would never have prevailed, but that does not mean it should not have existed. Ultimately, Celine was the plan, and once they got her to do the demo and James Cameron heard it, the plan was finalized and realized.

My even broader point is that this fits a long-running pattern of Mariah resenting Tommy for not making her aware of movie offers. That 98 Barbra interview makes that crystal clear. Mariah explicitly says she was not told about roles, that she found out through trade magazines, and that she would have said yes. She even acknowledges that some of those roles made other people stars.

With both Celine and Mariah being Sony artists, and with MHWGO going on to become an insanely colossal success, it is hard to believe Mariah did not feel some type of way about it. The Titanic-themed My All video reads like a quiet clap back. "Fine, Celine can have the biggest gigs and be the top selling artist now but I will have the better music video", which is pretty hilarious. LMAO. But to be completely fair, the MHWGO music video was corny as hell.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 12:07)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,832) by Lambi from USA
Honestly, yes. When you consider how high-budget Titanic was, the most expensive movie ever made at the time, it makes complete sense. The film had a massive budget of about $200 million, which in 1997 was completely unprecedented. Heck, that is still very expensive even by today's standards.

And knowing how eager Mariah was to break into the movie world, she likely would have put her personal preferences aside and agreed to it. Sometimes a director has such a fully realized vision that the smartest move is to humble yourself and simply deliver what is being asked of you. In this case, it's just to sing. You would also have to be a fool to pass up such a ridiculously ginormous opportunity. Céline was valid for rejecting it because she had just done Beauty and the Beast and was rightfully tired of theme songs, but Mariah did not have a major soundtrack moment yet. And man was she hungry for some credibility.

She did When You Believe as an extreme exception, and she was kind of tricked into it. Babyface told each of them that the other one had already agreed to do the song. She did not want to look difficult or back out of something that big. In the end, it worked out for the best because that was actually iconic. Arguably, the best two voices God gifted us, in one song.

And with Almost Home, this was way post-Glitter. Mariah had already been extremely humbled when it came to soundtracks. She was already a mom by then, and all she did was watch Disney movies with dem babies, so when Disney offered her the opportunity, of course she took it. I remember she was so happy talking about it because that Disney soundtrack moment coincided with the twins' 2nd birthday and their 5th wedding anniversary, which they celebrated in Disney land as well. And they freaking shut down the whole entire park.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 11:28)
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Article: Mariah Carey's twins tower over her (112,831) by Lambi from USA
There is plenty of TikTok content and photographic evidence showing that Roc and Roe are consistently included with her full tour crew and entourage. They are clearly family, but since they are close in age to the kid dancers, it makes sense that they naturally become close friends with them. Her kids also seem humble and comfortable just playing alongside regular kids.

When it comes to media exposure, Roc and Roe appear very subtly, in my opinion. Mariah rarely posts them. She is not constantly sharing their faces the way many mom influencers do when they turn their children into part of their brand. Frankly, she does not need to profit off her kids because she is already wealthy.

There was even a skit-style intro for their performance when they were younger that showed Mariah not allowing them on TikTok because they were too young. Overall, they seem to have full lives that include school, friendships, extracurricular activities, and travel. They come across as well-mannered and grounded, and they do not appear to seek public validation in the way some other celebrity kids have.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 03:57)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,830) by Edward from USA
If she kept it simple, without over-embellishment or too many melisma monents, she had the perfect voice for a movie theme song somewhere between "Mariah Carey" and "Music Box". I think "MHWGO" would've been a piece of cake for Mariah, vocally.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 03:38)
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Mariah singing at the Oscar (112,829) by Edward from USA
I agree, sadly that ship has sailed.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 03:21)
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Article: Mariah Carey's twins tower over her (112,828) by TJ from Norway
I don't think it's healthy for any kids to be that exposed in the media. Only the future can tell us how this will end. There are too many sad outcomes of famous kids in the past. Time will tell.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 02:24)
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Mariah singing at the Oscar (112,827) by TJ from Norway
That would have been lovely back in 1996. Let the young artist do that job. She doesn't have to prove anything like that these days. She was the queen of the 90's and no one could ever take that away from her. If I was MC, I think I would just enjoy life without all the fuss these days. I like the fact that Cameron Diaz just stepped out of the lime light, to live her life.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 02:19)
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Article: Mariah Carey's twins tower over her (112,826) by TJ from Norway
I still think it's weird. They are 14 years old (and shouldn't be on the public at all), but she makes those decisions. They are not in her entourage, they are her kids.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 02:11)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,825) by Bill from the UK
Mariah's voice is a bit too nuanced to deliver a movie song in my view. Celine's voice is perfect for theme tunes because it remains in the same vocal tone constantly but crescendos when it needs to. Same for Whitney to a degree. Mariah's voice has so many facets and intricacies and layers to it that I don't think it would work. The closest she came to that style was probably Hero.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 23:41)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,824) by Jamie from UK
Yes she wrote all those songs and sang them all with passion. Not something you can hide, she wrote some of her most heartfelt and emotional songs whilst with Tommy. In my opinion she seems more unhappy now and can't write anything anywhere near what she wrote back then. The new album is great and a return to form but the voice isn't there to project the songs unfortunately.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 22:56)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,823) by Terna from Nigeria
Speaking of MHWGO, there was a picture of a document running round on the internet a few years ago (2017), about the writers of the song - coincidentally the same co-writers as Faith Hill's "Where are you Christmas". The source of this document claimed they had recently started working in publishing and had access to the original documentation for publishing and there were three names listed for "My Heart Will Go On". "James Horner", "Will Jennings" and the third name? "M. Carey". This claim had a snapshot of the document (type written) as proof. However, that image disappeared mysteriously shortly after as well as the thread and retweets on it. Smh. Rumour also had it that James Cameron does not like Mariah Carey and insisted she was not going to be the one to sing the song, or it was never going to make the movie, specifically choosing Céline Dion. So many versions of events surrounding that time, makes one wonder, did Mariah write Céline's biggest hit? Because let's be honest, that song has certain "Mariahesque" qualities about it, it is very similar in movement, time signature and tempo to "When I Saw You", "Last Chance", "Where are you Christmas" - a lullaby kinda approach to writing she still uses even up to TEOM's "Joy Ride" and "Supernatural" from MIAM. My younger sister always said in reference to MHWGO, "This song sounds like a Mariah Carey song, it has her written all over it." Lol.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 22:44)
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I dreamt the strangest dream (112,822) by T from USA
Okay, what about Obsessed (ft. Bad Bunny & JLo)?
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 22:28)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,821) by jaker20 from US
Absolutely not, especially at that time of her career when she was breaking out of her shell did not want a participation award. Maybe in the early 90s, but not in the Butterfly period when she was getting a lot more control.

I could see Mariah doing Killing Me Softly if that was her idea even if she didn't write it. That was the direction she was taking her sound from Daydream, but got scared and went back to her safe zone in Rainbow. Now I love Lauryn, but when I listen to Ex-Factor and Tell Him I imagine Mariah doing her melisma and it it would have been magic.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 21:41)

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