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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,852) by Lambi from USA

Well no, Mariah never intended My All to ever be a theme song. Her being involved in movies was a clear no no. If you read her book, the song was organically inspired by Derek Jeter, not by any film concept or soundtrack opportunity. Sony would have never pitched any of her songs to be theme songs to begin with. If she were ever involved in that space, it would mean exposure to movie theme song scorers, movie directors, and writers. Mariah would have connections. Soundtracks are often used as stepping stones into acting, which is a very common path, and that would naturally lead to deeper film involvement. That kind of access and independence is exactly what Tommy heavily avoided for her at the time.

In my honest opinion, Mariah was simply bitter about Celine being positioned to carry on her torch as the best Sony selling artist. So she chose to make fun of how corny the MHWGO music video was by responding with a much stronger, more refined aesthetic built around the same theme. It was a silent clap back.

Here's the list of Sony's best selling artist in the 90s, just so you can see the picture clearer and understand how tight the competition truly was:

1990: Mariah
1991: Mariah
1992: Whitney
1993: Mariah
1994: Mariah
1995: Mariah
1996: Celine
1997: Celine
1998: Celine
1999: Celine

Post 95, Celine absolutely dominated Mariah. It's easy to see why Mariah felt some type of way. It hit even harder because she worked twice, if not three times, as hard, writing basically every song on her records while carrying the pressure of being Sony's standard-bearer. Her competitor only sang, and the contrast was impossible to ignore. This is exactly what I mean when I say Mariah inevitably developed a misplaced disdain towards Céline. Sony backed her rival with songwriters and resources, creating a level of support that was clearly imbalanced and frustrating for anyone in her position, who wrote every freaking song. By Divas Live, her frustration towards Céline was on full display. None of the other girls said a word about Celine's brief battle with Aretha, it was only Mariah who let it show. And it most likely stemmed from a deep-rooted issue of feeling heavily undervalued by Sony, for years.
(Thursday 1 January 2026; 13:58)


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Happy New Year everyone (112,851) by Bobby A from United States

Happy New Year everyone. I wish everyone a blessed and properous new year. Thank you Eric for keeping the board going for 28 years.

(Thursday 1 January 2026; 13:57)


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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,850) by MusicfanJ from Germany

Okay. Hmm I just never compared it with Titanic. More like an art video. I'll have to think about it. For me it's just a beautiful black and white video. But I still can't imagine Mariah staying on the Titanic like Céline and singing MHWGO.

(Thursday 1 January 2026; 13:56)


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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,849) by MusicfanJ from Germany

Haha that's too funny.

Happy new year everyone.

(Thursday 1 January 2026; 13:08)


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Happy New Year everyone (112,848) by Dove from United States

I'm wishing you all a peaceful and happy 2026.

(Thursday 1 January 2026; 08:22)

Was Celine the original JLo? (112,847) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia

If Sony and Mariah didn't have friction, then Sony must have proposed for My All to be the theme song. Even the video having Mariah lying down in an upside down wooden boat in the middle of the ocean (studio set of course). The lyrics even said "and I won't pull through without you by my side" that is 100% interpretation of what Rose said "I won't let go" to Jack in the climax scene of them lying on the wreckage.
(Thursday 1 January 2026; 07:16)


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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,846) by Lambi from USA

If you want to get technical. Celine had just worked with MHWGO songwriter a year before, for the theme song of the Olympics, Power of the Dream. They all boil down to the same point: she was sick of theme songs.
(Thursday 1 January 2026; 04:12)


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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,845) by Lighty from China

Beauty and the Beast was released in 1991 so Celine hadn't "just done" that song. The one before MHWGO was Because You Loved Me (for Up Close & Personal, 1996), the first single of her massive Falling Into You album.
(Thursday 1 January 2026; 03:17)


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Top posters 2025 (112,844) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands

The year 2025 has come to an end, so it's time for lists.

Top posters in 2025
1. Bobby A from United States: 641 messages
2. Edward from USA: 406 messages
3. Lambi from USA: 337 messages
4. Dove from United States: 250 messages
5. MusicfanJ from Germany: 245 messages
6. Jamie from UK: 228 messages
7. Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter: 198 messages
8. Zachariah from Croatia: 187 messages
9. TJ from Norway: 183 messages
10. Stacey from USA: 178 messages
11. Giovanni from USA: 175 messages
12. BFF from United States: 163 messages
13. Bill from the UK: 153 messages
14. jaker20 from US: 132 messages
15. T from USA : 119 messages
16. Shezz from Pk: 104 messages
17. Tevin from USA: 101 messages
18. Lighty from China: 88 messages
19. Anonymous from USA: 74 messages
20. Randy from USA: 71 messages
21. Haiji from United States : 59 messages
22. Xavier mariohmix from Spain: 59 messages
23. Terna from Nigeria: 59 messages
24. Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End: 50 messages
25. Lara from Middle East: 40 messages

Top posters all time
1. Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter: 4134 messages
2. B from USA: 3595 messages
3. Bobby A from United States: 3142 messages
4. RibbonB from USA: 2794 messages
5. Bill from the UK: 2570 messages
6. Edward from USA: 2481 messages
7. Licia from USA: 2267 messages
8. MusicfanJ from Germany: 1857 messages
9. Andrew from UK: 1384 messages
10. Stacey from USA: 1275 messages
11. this_is_qhm from the Philippines: 1171 messages
12. 123 from USA: 1055 messages
13. Terna from Nigeria: 935 messages
14. Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada: 798 messages
15. TJ from Norway: 785 messages
16. Billy from Greece: 773 messages
17. Jamie from UK: 758 messages
18. enwar00 from usa: 724 messages
19. T from USA : 718 messages
20. Gee from U.S.A. (New York City): 715 messages
21. jaker20 from US: 696 messages
22. Randy from USA: 687 messages
23. Shezz from Pk: 684 messages
24. Andrew from the United Kingdom: 640 messages
25. Marissa from USA: 575 messages
(Thursday 1 January 2026; 01:32)

Article: Mariah Carey's twins tower over her (112,843) by Dove from United States

We rarely see Mariah's kids. It feels like a snap here and there on her social media and maybe a few moments in her concert videos. Most people don't follow Mariah like we do.

I like how Beyoncé had her daughter dancing on tour with her. I saw a short of her when she first started, vs at the end of the tour, and she improved so much in just that time. I like that because she can get a taste for what it's like onstage without the pressure of being the main star. Then she can decide if it's something she wants to do or not. I'm not sure that's why they're doing it but if it is I think it's a good plan. That would have been my dream when I was young.

I wonder if Mariah's kids can sing.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 23:16)


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Cowboy Carey (112,842) by Giovanni from USA

Mariah was serving looks in Aspen in her cowboy hats and outfits. She looked so good and glamorous and it made me think of "Help me make it through the night". A very nice song that showcases Mariah's talent and diversity as an artist and singer that she really can sing anything. What are your thoughts Mimi L?

(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 20:50)

Daydream concert (112,841) by MusicfanJ from Germany

I'm just watching the Daydream concert on TV on 3sat. I will never get enough of it.

A good way to start in the silvester evening.

(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 19:50)

Was Celine the original JLo? (112,840) by Lambi from USA

Titanic-themed doesn't mean a shot-for-shot remake. The overturned boat in the middle of the vast ocean, that she's singing on, is the clearest Titanic reference, it's the aftermath of the sinking. Funny you said all that but completely missed the most obvious visual cue.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 19:39)


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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,839) by Edward from USA

Probably "My All" was the theme song for a high-budget epic movie that the Evil King personally shelved the moment Mariah freed herself from the castle. Nothing is impossible... at all (unnecessary sustained high note here).
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 16:11)


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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,838) by MusicfanJ from Germany

The Titanic-themed My All video? Where is it Titanic themed? Serious question. There is a shell, a lighthouse, a male model and Mariah who's also looking like a top model.

(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 14:55)


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Mariah singing at the Oscar (112,837) by MusicfanJ from Germany

Yes absolutely. Or look at Pamela Anderson, she moved to the nature and changed her look. I was impressed by that change. I fear Mariah can't leave the showbiz behind her. We'll see what's going on next year. Yes, she'll always be the queen of the 90ies. That's why her famous Christmas song is from 94 too. She was unmatched back then. It was magical.

(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 14:47)


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Article: Mariah Carey's twins tower over her (112,836) by MusicfanJ from Germany

That's why I hope they don't get "mad" later when they are 18 or so like kids from other stars. I think it's very unhealthy to stay at the public if you're kid. There are so many sad examples. I just watched a new docu about Liza Minelli. It was very interesting and sad at the same time. To have a famous mother from that league isn't easy for sure.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 14:39)


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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,835) by BFF from United States

That is an interesting point. Mariah has mentioned that Tommy and her management kept her in the dark about movie offers and opportunities early on in her career, and I have always wondered what those opportunities were. And you're right, they did kind of trick Mariah into doing "When You Believe".

I still think Mariah would have turned down MHWGO; it just doesn't fit with the direction she took post-1996 - less adult contemporary, more creative control. Plus Mariah had bigger, better ballads planned for "Glitter" and probably felt that stuff she wrote was just as good or better than MHWGO.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 14:06)


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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,834) by Lambi from USA

I see what you mean. Whitney's voice was indeed nuanced but somehow she made IWALY work. Her falsettos are crystal clear and she places them throughout the song, tastefully, just enough for it to still be palatable to the masses. I think with soundtracks, it largely depends on the arrangement and instrumentation as well as the melody of the song itself. Céline and Whitney were incredibly lucky to be at the pinnacle of successful soundtracks. To me, Open Arms Mariah would have absolutely crushed a sappy, tear-jerking movie ballad. I really wish she had gotten the chance.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 12:46)


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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,833) by Lambi from USA

Your point was that Tommy didn't write it, therefore he couldn't offer it. You hyper-focused on the word "offer" when the point was simply that Mariah should have at least been considered. The writers already had Celine in mind since they had worked together on Power of the Dream just a year earlier, but that ultimately meant nothing because Celine went on to reject MHWGO anyway. She was sick of doing soundtracks. It took serious convincing from both Tommy and Renee to get her to record it. It was not smooth or automatic.

My broader point is that Tommy is in the room. Walter is in the room. Celine actively did not want to do it. The other obvious elephant in the Sony room is Mariah. Realistically though, because it was 1997, that option probably would never have prevailed, but that does not mean it should not have existed. Ultimately, Celine was the plan, and once they got her to do the demo and James Cameron heard it, the plan was finalized and realized.

My even broader point is that this fits a long-running pattern of Mariah resenting Tommy for not making her aware of movie offers. That 98 Barbra interview makes that crystal clear. Mariah explicitly says she was not told about roles, that she found out through trade magazines, and that she would have said yes. She even acknowledges that some of those roles made other people stars.

With both Celine and Mariah being Sony artists, and with MHWGO going on to become an insanely colossal success, it is hard to believe Mariah did not feel some type of way about it. The Titanic-themed My All video reads like a quiet clap back. "Fine, Celine can have the biggest gigs and be the top selling artist now but I will have the better music video", which is pretty hilarious. LMAO. But to be completely fair, the MHWGO music video was corny as hell.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 12:07)


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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,832) by Lambi from USA

Honestly, yes. When you consider how high-budget Titanic was, the most expensive movie ever made at the time, it makes complete sense. The film had a massive budget of about $200 million, which in 1997 was completely unprecedented. Heck, that is still very expensive even by today's standards.

And knowing how eager Mariah was to break into the movie world, she likely would have put her personal preferences aside and agreed to it. Sometimes a director has such a fully realized vision that the smartest move is to humble yourself and simply deliver what is being asked of you. In this case, it's just to sing. You would also have to be a fool to pass up such a ridiculously ginormous opportunity. Céline was valid for rejecting it because she had just done Beauty and the Beast and was rightfully tired of theme songs, but Mariah did not have a major soundtrack moment yet. And man was she hungry for some credibility.

She did When You Believe as an extreme exception, and she was kind of tricked into it. Babyface told each of them that the other one had already agreed to do the song. She did not want to look difficult or back out of something that big. In the end, it worked out for the best because that was actually iconic. Arguably, the best two voices God gifted us, in one song.

And with Almost Home, this was way post-Glitter. Mariah had already been extremely humbled when it came to soundtracks. She was already a mom by then, and all she did was watch Disney movies with dem babies, so when Disney offered her the opportunity, of course she took it. I remember she was so happy talking about it because that Disney soundtrack moment coincided with the twins' 2nd birthday and their 5th wedding anniversary, which they celebrated in Disney land as well. And they freaking shut down the whole entire park.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 11:28)


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Article: Mariah Carey's twins tower over her (112,831) by Lambi from USA

There is plenty of TikTok content and photographic evidence showing that Roc and Roe are consistently included with her full tour crew and entourage. They are clearly family, but since they are close in age to the kid dancers, it makes sense that they naturally become close friends with them. Her kids also seem humble and comfortable just playing alongside regular kids.

When it comes to media exposure, Roc and Roe appear very subtly, in my opinion. Mariah rarely posts them. She is not constantly sharing their faces the way many mom influencers do when they turn their children into part of their brand. Frankly, she does not need to profit off her kids because she is already wealthy.

There was even a skit-style intro for their performance when they were younger that showed Mariah not allowing them on TikTok because they were too young. Overall, they seem to have full lives that include school, friendships, extracurricular activities, and travel. They come across as well-mannered and grounded, and they do not appear to seek public validation in the way some other celebrity kids have.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 03:57)


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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,830) by Edward from USA

If she kept it simple, without over-embellishment or too many melisma monents, she had the perfect voice for a movie theme song somewhere between "Mariah Carey" and "Music Box". I think "MHWGO" would've been a piece of cake for Mariah, vocally.

(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 03:38)


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Mariah singing at the Oscar (112,829) by Edward from USA

I agree, sadly that ship has sailed.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 03:21)


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Article: Mariah Carey's twins tower over her (112,828) by TJ from Norway

I don't think it's healthy for any kids to be that exposed in the media. Only the future can tell us how this will end. There are too many sad outcomes of famous kids in the past. Time will tell.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 02:24)


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