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Emancipation & Daydream (108,417) by BFF from United States

TEOM:

Sprung
Fly Like A Bird
honorable mention: Say Somethin'

Daydream:

Slipping Away
One Sweet Day
honorable mention: Melt Away
(Tuesday 25 March 2025; 00:36)


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Emancipation & Daydream (108,416) by Edward from USA

Daydream:
Fantasy
Underneath the Stars
(guilty pleasure: Melt Away)

TEOM:
One & Only
Get Your Number
(guilty pleasure: When I Saw You)
(Tuesday 25 March 2025; 00:21)


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Love letter to MC (108,415) by BFF from United States

Amen. Mariah, we love you unconditionally and support whatever you decide to do.
(Monday 24 March 2025; 23:17)


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Emancipation & Daydream (108,414) by Jamie from UK

Ok while it's the 20th Anniversary of Mimi and 30th Anniversary of Daydream. Choose your two favourite songs from each album. Mine are:
We Belong Together/Get Your Number
Fantasy/Looking In
I'm interested to hear people's choices and thought I'd bring some fun to the board.

(Monday 24 March 2025; 18:14)

Ribbon (108,413) by Jamie from UK

I love Ribbon. Radio killer.

(Monday 24 March 2025; 13:48)


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Overreacting (108,412) by Zachariah from Croatia

My head is spinning from of all these conspiracy theories that I see here. Give a woman some rest.
(Monday 24 March 2025; 13:45)

Love letter to MC (108,411) by Edward from USA

Beautiful message to MC.

(Monday 24 March 2025; 08:22)


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Ribbon (108,410) by Edward from USA

I love myself some Ribbon. Actually, Mariah was in a better place vocally on E=MC2 and Memoirs than what she was on TEOM.

(Monday 24 March 2025; 08:12)


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Ribbon (108,409) by Bobby A from United States

I think Ribbon is the best song that MC, The-Dream and Tricky Stewart have ever written together. The song is probably a favorite among Dream fans. Plus adding Ludacris on the remix was genius by MC. By the way, I am wondering if Angels Advocate will ever get an official release one day.

(Sunday 23 March 2025; 23:40)

Love letter to MC (108,408) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End

To Mariah, whom I love, cherish and adore (more than some of my own blood relations) and wish, hope and pray will humble yourself and let go of anything holding you back from being happy and at peace, where you have always belonged but for some reason you feel unworthy and don't believe is for you.

Mariah, nobody "deserves" or earns love, it's a gift from our creator. Rejecting love is not where it's at. God wants you to be happy. Grief comes and goes in waves, let it happen. Lean into it, move through it. Don't bottle all your struggles up. Your disappointment. Declare yourself free and unburden yourself from the wounds you carry. We all have to mourn our dead. But let's celebrate the living too, why grieve and eulogize loved ones who still draw breath?

We'll be okay, we don't really need new music or any of the other things we always bitch about. We care about you. You are not somewhat loved, you are loved, period. Don't martyr yourself for the fandom, the public and strangers that care or know nothing about you. We'll live and we'll be happy because you're genuinely happy. Why won't you choose happy, is it fear? Well that's not of the Lord and you know it.

So whatever had you running scared, run towards that. Because faking it until you make it isn't working. It also reads inauthentic and that's not good because even as someone who loves you and means you well, always, I can misread you as someone who doesn't care when I also see that you're trying very hard. Let go of your pride. It's not doing you any favors. Handle your business girl and I'm not talking music or showbusiness. Go off grid if you have to. Be Garbo for a minute or two. Let God lead the way and follow Him. You don't need to go on an exploitation/explanation tour on anyone's primetime tv-couch. Go be with the people who love you, 4 real 4 real. It's time you stop self sabotaging. Reject dysfunction once and for all. Stop rejecting stability in favour of familiarity of chaos and uncertainty.

Go where you're loved and accepted wholely and truly. That's what you should keep building on. Love is the only thing that we take with us, given and received, when we leave this earth. Let's not take it for granted and waste time on frivolous things and hollow relationships. Stop feeding the trolls.

"4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres." 1 Corinthians 13.

(Sunday 23 March 2025; 22:27)

Just makin' the most of life (108,407) by MusicfanJ from Germany

Again on point Jamie. I absolutely agree with your thoughts. "But my main concern is Mariah herself at the moment." Yes, that's also my concern. Someone wrote on this board, she is so rich and famous, she dosen't care about anything. That may be true, but I do care. A lot of other fans/lambs do care. The question is, is she happy and healthy? All the money in the world can't buy it. There are many exsamples. I just hope she's okay. Next week is celebration week.

(Sunday 23 March 2025; 16:30)


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It's divas week (108,406) by BFF from United States

You're putting a rush on us, Randy.
(Sunday 23 March 2025; 12:42)


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Just makin' the most of life (108,405) by Jamie from UK

I'm under no illusions that she will never be as she was. Being nostalgic doesn't mean you're not aware of the present. My concern is that she's now at a point where she's even far removed from that person than she has ever been, and not even musically. I loved Caution, I even loved I Don't, obviously not the video though lol. I'm concerned and rightly so that something isn't right with her right now. Whether it's medical or something else, who knows, but from an outsiders point of view something is off. My criticism only comes from a place of caring about Mariah, I've remained loyal throughout the years, and have enjoyed all her music. My point is that for the general buying public she became to far removed from the Mariah they fell in love with, I'm personally as a fan not saying that her new music isn't good, she's got some amazing tracks later on in her career. But my main concern is Mariah herself at the moment.
(Sunday 23 March 2025; 07:45)


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Just makin' the most of life (108,404) by Boy from The Netherlands

I mean indeed, when artists receive such a specific award, it's usually based on their accomplishments and achievements throughout their career, anyways. I don't think you understand me nor my intentions. That you miss something or wish for her to navigate and present herself as an artist the way she did back in the day is just knowingly wishing for something that will never happen again. In the '90s, she was on a leash, whitewashed and her image was heavily controlled. Now, she's a prisoner of her own set standards and the expected demands of her fanbase. She simply can't and won't live up to those standards anymore.

As an eager and ambitious artist, she has plateaued multiple times throughout her career. Like you said, she is relevant now because of the musical legacy she created in the past. A lot of you will probably never admit it but Mariah has been a legacy artist for the past decade or so. Maybe that's where some of the disappointment comes from.

Reality is exactly what she presents us. From her Drew Barrymore interview to the two guys she gave an interview. For more than a decade now, she can't walk on her own and wears clothes that make everyone wonder how she even moves or breathes. She has created this world, this cocoon, Mariah World one she probably resents but also feels comfortable and safe in. She's probably frustrated and disappointed, too, because for an artist like Mariah who clearly had a lot of excess, privileges, and label support due to her personal relationship with Tommy it must be a hard pill to swallow that she can't even get a proper push or budget anymore. Her label just wants to profit off her catalog and Christmas shtick.

For more than a decade now, she's had a couple of wins for her standards. And in her current situation, she's just trying to enjoy the respect and recognition she gets while she's still here. But just because she talks about lighting or eternal 12 doesn't mean it's over for her or that she needs to stay home. I'm not saying, don't have expectations, I'm just saying at least let them be realistic.

"She smiles through a thousand tears and harbors adolescent fears. She dreams of all that she can never be she wades in insecurity and hides herself inside of me."
(Sunday 23 March 2025; 01:32)


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It's divas week (108,403) by Randy from USA

Uh-oh, break out the hairspray, sequins, booze. It's divas week. Birthdays: 3/23 Chaka. 3/25 Aretha. 3/26 Diana. 3/27 Mariah. 3/31 Celine. But today we start with our original Dorothy from The Wiz - Stephanie Mills. Now you all say I'm mean, so this week Ima be kind. Did y'all know that she has another talent besides singing?
(Saturday 22 March 2025; 23:57)

Just makin' the most of life (108,402) by Bobby A from United States

Jamie, your post is spot on. Where will MC be in 2026? I believe the nostaglia is going to fade soon without some type of new project. She is going to need to release some type of project next year. Maybe not a new album, but some type of compliation project with something from her vault. MC is a legend who can break the internet with the right complilation and goodies included. I am thinking about something like what Garth Brooks did with Wal-Mart to sell his first ever anthology boxset. I am still in awe of everything she has accomplished in her career. Give me one of her remixes on a new vinyl pressing and I am a very happy queen.

(Saturday 22 March 2025; 22:00)


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Just makin' the most of life (108,401) by Dennis from Miami, FL

Jamie, you're 100% spot on. Mariah resents most of the things from her early days. To quote Tommy Mottola about Hero: "The bottom line is that nobody was putting words in her mouth. The song came from her own soul. It just wasn't the direction she wanted to be going in. Her next album, Music Box, was a great mix of styles. But for her, Hero was not even a small piece of that pie. I saw Hero as Mariah's missing piece. This was the magical piece that was going to open up every demographic to her. Mariah wasn't happy about it. But Hero was on her next album. This had to be another example for her of seeing me as being controlling. I really don't think she got it until Hero became a hit in every country of the world. She was just a kid when she wrote that song, but she probably didn't get it until she turned into an adult." I wish she could overcome all those traumas and live on as a free spirit.
(Saturday 22 March 2025; 21:18)


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It only happens to singers (108,400) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia

People expect singers to still perform like in their peak era. But at the same time we have different expectations when it comes to other fields like sports, do we expect Michael Jordan to still hit the game in his 50's? Do we expect Mike Tyson to box like in his peak? He even lost the game recently. We appreciate them for what they had contributed. Mariah had played the game and she won. Now she is a legend. We appreciate her legacy. Of course we all know that she can't sing like her peak era. So what? She's a human being. Some singers have it until they died, some just don't. Nevertheless we still value her as one of the pioneers in singing and for her legacy. Just like we appreciate the legacy of Michael Jordan, Mike Tyson, or other legends in other fields.
(Saturday 22 March 2025; 15:49)

Just makin' the most of life (108,399) by Jamie from UK

The reason she is still relevant and receiving icon awards is because of her early career, those days influenced everything and everyone. If none of that had happened and she came out as she is now I'm afraid she wouldn't be getting and awards. We're nostalgic because she was amazing then, we lived through it and we miss it. None of us are saying she isn't relevant anymore as a person, but music career wise unfortunately no is buying her new stuff. Even her Christmas mania is based on an early period of her career, and let me guess when that was, oh yes its the time we're all nostalgic about. Mariah is a legend and she's reached icon status but it's not for her current music career, unfortunately it's her past.
(Saturday 22 March 2025; 09:36)


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Moderator (108,398) by Shezz from Pk

I'm quite confused with this board right now. Forget about the 90s, I miss Caution Mariah. So I get the lambs on this board who don't like what they see now. But I wish they could see that the other lambs who defend current Mariah are showing their love for her just as you all are showing your love for her by demanding excellence from her.

I don't think they are all "yass queens", they are just more accepting. And the ones expecting more are not "haters". She is not going to have a sit down and declare a "state of emergency" on her voice and cry about it on tv. You know her better than that. Let her go out on her own terms. Celebrate her little wins like the record she'll hopefully reclaim this Christmas with AIWFC that'll make every lamb proud. I think both sides of the lambily need to be easier on each other in this crazy world we live in today already suffocating with hate for people not like themselves.

(Saturday 22 March 2025; 04:45)


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Moderator (108,397) by Bobby A from United States

Lol. We have one already - Eric. Who knew that MC's first televised appearance of 2025 could cause so many different perspectives about the state of her career. MC should have prepared us more about what she dealt with during the recording of Caution during her Genius interview. That was the perfect interview for her to come clean about everything that we definitely know now. Caution wasn't rushed. MC just couldn't do vocally with Caution what she was used to doing in the studio. Ten songs was all she could do in the studio because vocally she just couldn't do more. That is just my perspective this week after coming to the conclusion why there is no new album seven years later.

(Saturday 22 March 2025; 01:49)


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Moderator (108,396) by Steven Berning from USA

This board needs a moderator.
(Friday 21 March 2025; 20:59)

Did I click on the JLo message board? (108,395) by Brandon from USA

Maybe you should start your own message board where you and the other yass queens can reside in Delulu Land together. We keep it real over here, maybe too real for you.

What I will not do is stop expecting the best from MC because she is the best. If you can't take the heat, go find another kitchen sweetie.
(Friday 21 March 2025; 14:04)


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Just makin' the most of life (108,393) by MusicfanJ from Germany

"Doing stuff on the charts." What do you mean with stuff? The Christmas season with AIWFCIY or the remix with Ariana? Did I miss something, is there a new song on the radio or charts or on streaming? The Rainbow remixes were cool and the song with the female rnb singer Muni Long. But what charts?
(Friday 21 March 2025; 12:16)


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Just makin' the most of life (108,392) by Lee from USA

Finally, somebody's getting it.The woman is doing stuff on the charts that even younger artists are struggling to do. I feel that if you want a more demure artist then why not support them?
(Friday 21 March 2025; 11:21)


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