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Article: Mariah Carey breaks silence on Clive Davis' death (114,049) by SALLYELAMBBY from USA I too would've posted that photo if I looked that good standing next to evil. (Saturday 27 June 2026; 18:56)

Article: Mariah Carey doesn't show up for longtime collaborator (114,048) by SALLYELAMBBY from USA Ew this was worded so shadily and awkward lol. (Saturday 27 June 2026; 18:52)

Getting our Mariah back (114,047) by SALLYELAMBBY from USA Madge v. Mimi in 2026? Iconic lmao. (Saturday 27 June 2026; 18:42) this is a reply to message 114,045

Getting our Mariah back (114,045) by Jamie from UK Changing the subject... I'm just watching a Madonna interview here in the UK, and whilst her behaviour over recent years has been questionable it's nice to see that she's still coherent and can hold a conversation with the interviewer. She's both relaxed and engaged and relatable. This is as we've said where Mariah is going wrong, the body of work she produced for [Here for it all] was great but you can't connect with her on a regular level. Madonna is drawing me in as I'm able to connect with her and who she was is still there, she's still the Madonna we know. If Mariah could get back to that level of connection I'm sure she could draw more people into her new music. I really think that should be her main focus now, have someone to manage her persona as such, get her more connected with her audience again and get her back to who she was and who people know. If it means disappearing for a year or so completely to get herself back then so be it. (Saturday 27 June 2026; 11:11)

Taylor Swift (114,046) by MusicfanJ from Germany In the 80ies or 90ies Taylor Swift wouldn't have been so big and popular like nowadays. She's just there in the right time with a good management and clever business choices. Plus there's not so much competition. In the 90ies with Whintey, Céline, Mariah even Madonna, today who is there, really? Taylor Swift started as a country girl and hit the "zeitgeist" with her pop songs. She also seems nice and smart. But she will never be in the league of a "Mariah Carey". Never ever. I'm not worried at all. (Saturday 27 June 2026; 16:34) this is a reply to message 114,043

Taylor Swift (114,043) by Lainsky from Philippines Honestly, I was bothered for all the reasons you mentioned and felt disappointed when I saw that Taylor Swift earned her 15th No. 1 song, especially since it was a soundtrack. That added to my dismay. When You Believe, Lead The Way, hello? They deserved to hit the top spot and stayed there for several weeks, hello? What's happening there? I chose not to post about it here, perhaps because I'm currently in a place of contentment and joy with all the achievements Mariah Carey has made. Yet, I still secretly hope for more, such as scoring another No. 1 song and album. The points you raised are valid and make sense, but there are other reasons to consider as well. While it's true that the records she set might eventually be broken, that doesn't erase them. They are etched in history, having made a significant impact. However, I also recognize that feeling of not wanting her records to be broken. I felt this first with Rihanna, but with Taylor, she shows no signs of slowing down, so it's quite possible she will continue to break records. Given her consistent popularity after nearly two decades, I can't help but entertain the rumor that she made a pact with Satan or some cult to maintain her fame. (Saturday 27 June 2026; 06:14)

Getting our Mariah back (114,045) by Jamie from UK Changing the subject... I'm just watching a Madonna interview here in the UK, and whilst her behaviour over recent years has been questionable it's nice to see that she's still coherent and can hold a conversation with the interviewer. She's both relaxed and engaged and relatable. This is as we've said where Mariah is going wrong, the body of work she produced for [Here for it all] was great but you can't connect with her on a regular level. Madonna is drawing me in as I'm able to connect with her and who she was is still there, she's still the Madonna we know. If Mariah could get back to that level of connection I'm sure she could draw more people into her new music. I really think that should be her main focus now, have someone to manage her persona as such, get her more connected with her audience again and get her back to who she was and who people know. If it means disappearing for a year or so completely to get herself back then so be it. (Saturday 27 June 2026; 11:11)

Taylor Swift (114,044) by Jamie from UK I've never got the Taylor hype. I liked a few songs from the Red and 1989 albums but couldn't tell you any after that. I think it's been a very calculated business venture that's paid off. No singers have become billionaires before, this was a strategically planned exercise using social media to captivate the audience especially the young generation. Although as we know nothing lasts forever so watch this space. Mariah and all the other greats earned their audience and awards from hard work and people physically going out to buy their music. Now you don't even have to get off your couch for it to count towards a number one. I know what I'd rather have achieved and it's definitely not the Taylor model. (Saturday 27 June 2026; 11:09) this is a reply to message 114,040

Taylor Swift (114,040) by Randy from USA Even though I don't post much more anymore, I still troll this board to catch reactions, I'm shocked no one has anything to say about Taylor Swift's 15th number one. Has everyone just resigned MC is not gonna hold on to her record? Ima be honest, when I used to spar against a Whitney fan about MC having more number ones. He used to say, yeah but Whitney's are known. I could make the argument Didn't We Almost Have It All isn't well known. For MC Thank God I Found You is obscure. But with Taylor Swift and Drake, I maybe could name 4 a piece. Maybe it's generational. I mean The Beatles are musicians, singers and songwriters. Mariah was a masterful vocalist and is still a killer songwriter. Whitney is probably the greatest live singer of all time. MJ and Madonna are American cultural iconic figures as much as Coke and Levi's. I just don't see Taylor Swift, Rihanna or Drake anywhere near as important. That's the insult of MCs record being in jeopardy for me. (Friday 26 June 2026; 21:23)

Taylor Swift (114,043) by Lainsky from Philippines Honestly, I was bothered for all the reasons you mentioned and felt disappointed when I saw that Taylor Swift earned her 15th No. 1 song, especially since it was a soundtrack. That added to my dismay. When You Believe, Lead The Way, hello? They deserved to hit the top spot and stayed there for several weeks, hello? What's happening there? I chose not to post about it here, perhaps because I'm currently in a place of contentment and joy with all the achievements Mariah Carey has made. Yet, I still secretly hope for more, such as scoring another No. 1 song and album. The points you raised are valid and make sense, but there are other reasons to consider as well. While it's true that the records she set might eventually be broken, that doesn't erase them. They are etched in history, having made a significant impact. However, I also recognize that feeling of not wanting her records to be broken. I felt this first with Rihanna, but with Taylor, she shows no signs of slowing down, so it's quite possible she will continue to break records. Given her consistent popularity after nearly two decades, I can't help but entertain the rumor that she made a pact with Satan or some cult to maintain her fame. (Saturday 27 June 2026; 06:14) this is a reply to message 114,040

Taylor Swift (114,040) by Randy from USA Even though I don't post much more anymore, I still troll this board to catch reactions, I'm shocked no one has anything to say about Taylor Swift's 15th number one. Has everyone just resigned MC is not gonna hold on to her record? Ima be honest, when I used to spar against a Whitney fan about MC having more number ones. He used to say, yeah but Whitney's are known. I could make the argument Didn't We Almost Have It All isn't well known. For MC Thank God I Found You is obscure. But with Taylor Swift and Drake, I maybe could name 4 a piece. Maybe it's generational. I mean The Beatles are musicians, singers and songwriters. Mariah was a masterful vocalist and is still a killer songwriter. Whitney is probably the greatest live singer of all time. MJ and Madonna are American cultural iconic figures as much as Coke and Levi's. I just don't see Taylor Swift, Rihanna or Drake anywhere near as important. That's the insult of MCs record being in jeopardy for me. (Friday 26 June 2026; 21:23)

Taylor Swift (114,042) by Lambi from USA That argument is so fantastical, "Whitney's are known." It's such a cop-out to discount Mariah's accolades. Though I'd agree that some of Mariah's #1s are like, "Huh, what do you mean?" I didn't think TGIFY or IDWC were #1 records. There was definitely extra effort to make them happen. But you essentially can't fabricate what people like. Obsessed, Shake It Off, and It's a Wrap eventually found their way to the success they deserved. They should've rightfully been number 1s. Mariah heavily bodies Whitney (RIP) both in vocals and melody. It boils down to who gave more throughout their career. MC takes the cake. Taylor Swift isn't even comparable. Literally, if she gets the most, that would mean absolutely nothing. Like Aretha said, "Great gowns, beautiful gowns." (Saturday 27 June 2026; 01:07) this is a reply to message 114,040

Taylor Swift (114,040) by Randy from USA Even though I don't post much more anymore, I still troll this board to catch reactions, I'm shocked no one has anything to say about Taylor Swift's 15th number one. Has everyone just resigned MC is not gonna hold on to her record? Ima be honest, when I used to spar against a Whitney fan about MC having more number ones. He used to say, yeah but Whitney's are known. I could make the argument Didn't We Almost Have It All isn't well known. For MC Thank God I Found You is obscure. But with Taylor Swift and Drake, I maybe could name 4 a piece. Maybe it's generational. I mean The Beatles are musicians, singers and songwriters. Mariah was a masterful vocalist and is still a killer songwriter. Whitney is probably the greatest live singer of all time. MJ and Madonna are American cultural iconic figures as much as Coke and Levi's. I just don't see Taylor Swift, Rihanna or Drake anywhere near as important. That's the insult of MCs record being in jeopardy for me. (Friday 26 June 2026; 21:23)

Taylor Swift (114,041) by Zachariah from Croatia I don't think the issue is that Mariah's record is in jeopardy. Records exist to be broken. The interesting question is whether every #1 has the same cultural weight. Mariah, Whitney, MJ, Madonna, and The Beatles have songs that people know even if they couldn't tell you what year they came out. They're woven into the culture. Taylor's success is undeniable, but streaming has changed what a #1 means. It's easier for fan engagement to propel multiple songs to the top for a week than it was in the era when radio and physical sales had to sustain a hit. That doesn't diminish Taylor's achievements - it just makes direct comparisons across eras tricky. So I don't see it as "Mariah's record is being devalued." I see it as two different chart ecosystems producing two different kinds of success. Breaking a numerical record isn't automatically the same as matching the cultural footprint that made the record legendary in the first place. Charts measure popularity at a moment in time. Legacy is measured by what people are still singing 20 or 30 years later. Those aren't always the same thing. Taylor may end up with more #1s than Mariah. That tells us Taylor mastered the streaming era. It doesn't erase what Mariah accomplished in an era where getting a #1 required a completely different set of conditions. Numbers can be surpassed; cultural impact is a separate conversation. (Friday 26 June 2026; 22:53) this is a reply to message 114,040

Taylor Swift (114,040) by Randy from USA Even though I don't post much more anymore, I still troll this board to catch reactions, I'm shocked no one has anything to say about Taylor Swift's 15th number one. Has everyone just resigned MC is not gonna hold on to her record? Ima be honest, when I used to spar against a Whitney fan about MC having more number ones. He used to say, yeah but Whitney's are known. I could make the argument Didn't We Almost Have It All isn't well known. For MC Thank God I Found You is obscure. But with Taylor Swift and Drake, I maybe could name 4 a piece. Maybe it's generational. I mean The Beatles are musicians, singers and songwriters. Mariah was a masterful vocalist and is still a killer songwriter. Whitney is probably the greatest live singer of all time. MJ and Madonna are American cultural iconic figures as much as Coke and Levi's. I just don't see Taylor Swift, Rihanna or Drake anywhere near as important. That's the insult of MCs record being in jeopardy for me. (Friday 26 June 2026; 21:23)

Taylor Swift (114,040) by Randy from USA Even though I don't post much more anymore, I still troll this board to catch reactions, I'm shocked no one has anything to say about Taylor Swift's 15th number one. Has everyone just resigned MC is not gonna hold on to her record? Ima be honest, when I used to spar against a Whitney fan about MC having more number ones. He used to say, yeah but Whitney's are known. I could make the argument Didn't We Almost Have It All isn't well known. For MC Thank God I Found You is obscure. But with Taylor Swift and Drake, I maybe could name 4 a piece. Maybe it's generational. I mean The Beatles are musicians, singers and songwriters. Mariah was a masterful vocalist and is still a killer songwriter. Whitney is probably the greatest live singer of all time. MJ and Madonna are American cultural iconic figures as much as Coke and Levi's. I just don't see Taylor Swift, Rihanna or Drake anywhere near as important. That's the insult of MCs record being in jeopardy for me. (Friday 26 June 2026; 21:23)

It's a wrap (114,039) by MusicfanJ from Germany She does a good job. But it must be so hard as a single mum. Of course she can have the best staff with all the money. But with the father to deal with it, it must be very hard emotionally. And soon the kids will have their own life, just four more years and they are 18? I still wish Mariah finds a real man/partner. She's got a right to dream. Mariah just doesn't seem like a person who's happy alone. I just wish to see her happy. (Thursday 25 June 2026; 09:04) this is a reply to message 114,036

It's a wrap (114,036) by Lambi from USA I think she does a good job. She finds ways to include them in her touring lifestyle, letting them perform while also letting them be kids and play. She even set up a mini pop-up lemonade stand with a whole cash register for them so they get excited and feel like they're contributing to the show too. Rocky seems to include God a lot in his captions, and Roe seems very level-headed. They're surrounded 24/7 by trusted friends and professionals so she's definitely doing a better job of preserving their innocence. They are not being left alone with sketchy people like Mariah was with Alison's pimps. The mafia have gone after her public reputation, her wealth, and her health. Family is the one thing she has now that's somewhat stable, and she is fighting tooth and nail to protect it and keep those relationships intact. In her book, she denotes her children as one of her greatest gifts, alongside her tremendous musical talent. They hold such a magnitude of strength, healing and saving grace for her (like music do), and I'm so elated MC gets to have that. Dem kids truly are a gift from the Lord. (Thursday 25 June 2026; 03:16)

Imperfect (114,038) by Lainsky from Philippines Imperfect That's all that I'll ever be, and God knows that's alright with me Cause I know there's no one greater and everybody's Imperfect When you tryna live in harmony But the song of life is out of key Just be perfectly The song perfectly aligns with her current situation. She has the choice to embrace the song's message and live by it. I've also developed a deep appreciation for this song. I really enjoy her singing in her lower register; she doesn't need to belt out her songs all the time. I love this song along with "Standing O." (Thursday 25 June 2026; 06:31)

My All/Stay Awhile remix (114,037) by Stacey from USA Yes. One of my favorite remixes. So put your loving arms around me boy And hold me like I was a cuddly toy Let me feel that warmth of your embrace Don't let go Cause there could be no sadder sight to see Than if we were to miss this opportunity So send me up a signal and I'll catch the light If there's no time, you know it's up to you (Thursday 25 June 2026; 06:04) this is a reply to message 114,035

My All/Stay Awhile remix (114,035) by Bobby A from United States Put your loving arms around me boy. And hold me like I was a cuddly toy. Let me feel that warmth of your embrace. Just some nostaglia for finding the original Loose Ends Stay a Little While Child 12 inch last week. (Wednesday 24 June 2026; 21:28)

It's a wrap (114,036) by Lambi from USA I think she does a good job. She finds ways to include them in her touring lifestyle, letting them perform while also letting them be kids and play. She even set up a mini pop-up lemonade stand with a whole cash register for them so they get excited and feel like they're contributing to the show too. Rocky seems to include God a lot in his captions, and Roe seems very level-headed. They're surrounded 24/7 by trusted friends and professionals so she's definitely doing a better job of preserving their innocence. They are not being left alone with sketchy people like Mariah was with Alison's pimps. The mafia have gone after her public reputation, her wealth, and her health. Family is the one thing she has now that's somewhat stable, and she is fighting tooth and nail to protect it and keep those relationships intact. In her book, she denotes her children as one of her greatest gifts, alongside her tremendous musical talent. They hold such a magnitude of strength, healing and saving grace for her (like music do), and I'm so elated MC gets to have that. Dem kids truly are a gift from the Lord. (Thursday 25 June 2026; 03:16) this is a reply to message 114,032

It's a wrap (114,032) by MusicfanJ from Germany Yes, it's true. They are often copying it. The good and the bad. But sometimes it can also be the complete opposite. I know a lot of people that became the opposite of their parents. Even the stars can be the opposite. I find it fascinating that Steven Tyler's daughter, the beautiful Liv Tyler, looks so normal and not like the "Rock and Roll style" with all the bad habits that often come with it. But with Mariah, she did escape the poorness from the family. She became one of the biggest stars in music, broke every record, a real legend. But sadly in private life it looks more like copying, you're right. I just wish she could find a normal man, not only good looking clowns or partners that only wants the money and a bit fame. She so deserves a stable own family after all that mess. That would be healing for sure. (Tuesday 23 June 2026; 12:32)

My All/Stay Awhile remix (114,035) by Bobby A from United States Put your loving arms around me boy. And hold me like I was a cuddly toy. Let me feel that warmth of your embrace. Just some nostaglia for finding the original Loose Ends Stay a Little While Child 12 inch last week. (Wednesday 24 June 2026; 21:28)

Heartbreaker (114,034) by MusicfanJ from Germany I love "Heartbreaker" and the video. It was so much fun with Mariah as Bianca and Jerry O'Connell. The remix is also a favourite of mine. Yeah, the lyrics say it all. I wonder who the heartbreaker was on this song? Derek Jeter or somebody else? (Wednesday 24 June 2026; 11:56) this is a reply to message 114,033

Heartbreaker (114,033) by Stacey from USA Heartbreaker, you've got the best of me But I just keep coming back incessantly Oh, why did you have to run your game on me? I should have known right from the start You'd go and break my heart. (Wednesday 24 June 2026; 07:37)

Heartbreaker (114,033) by Stacey from USA Heartbreaker, you've got the best of me But I just keep coming back incessantly Oh, why did you have to run your game on me? I should have known right from the start You'd go and break my heart. (Wednesday 24 June 2026; 07:37)

It's a wrap (114,032) by MusicfanJ from Germany Yes, it's true. They are often copying it. The good and the bad. But sometimes it can also be the complete opposite. I know a lot of people that became the opposite of their parents. Even the stars can be the opposite. I find it fascinating that Steven Tyler's daughter, the beautiful Liv Tyler, looks so normal and not like the "Rock and Roll style" with all the bad habits that often come with it. But with Mariah, she did escape the poorness from the family. She became one of the biggest stars in music, broke every record, a real legend. But sadly in private life it looks more like copying, you're right. I just wish she could find a normal man, not only good looking clowns or partners that only wants the money and a bit fame. She so deserves a stable own family after all that mess. That would be healing for sure. (Tuesday 23 June 2026; 12:32) this is a reply to message 114,031

It's a wrap (114,031) by TJ from Norway I usually just agree with everything you say, but don't you think that people who has experienced unstable lives as kids are often copying the same lifestyle them self? (Tuesday 23 June 2026; 00:52)

It's a wrap (114,031) by TJ from Norway I usually just agree with everything you say, but don't you think that people who has experienced unstable lives as kids are often copying the same lifestyle them self? (Tuesday 23 June 2026; 00:52) this is a reply to message 114,028

It's a wrap (114,028) by MusicfanJ from Germany "I think Nick leaving broke her to the core." That's what I think too. And it's so sad. Mariah really thought it is a "love story" and he did "the impossible" but that clownish, egomaniac man only broke her inner heart. He and Stella are the worst. Back then I had a bad feeling when the news were telling that she will marry him after such a short time. But that he became such a nightmare, it was a bad surprise. Mariah always wanted a stable family for own (after all her experiences from childhood on) but he left her with two kids and made many babies with diffrent women. He's a shame as a man and as a person. A second divorce is one thing and hard enough, but Nick made her look like a fool. I also feel sorry for the children, they will have questions soon. I hope they can be a little support for Mariah when they are grown-up. Mariah needs a true soul, I hope one day she'll find him. She deserves happiness with a real man. But no more clowns, then it's better to be alone and find inner peace and strength again. Good friends can help too. (Sunday 21 June 2026; 14:34)

It's a wrap (114,030) by TJ from Norway I think she did a good performance in Stavanger, Norway after that. Was it all live? No. Was it only lippet? No. I enjoyed it. (Tuesday 23 June 2026; 00:47) this is a reply to message 114,029

It's a wrap (114,029) by Bobby A from United States MC's 2016 New Year's Eve disastrous performance broke her as well. It broke her so much that she wrote Portrait. MC really hasn't been the same on any stage since that awful moment. I hope she can find her groove again on stage by moving more and singing live. Wouldn't it be cool if she partnered up with Tiana Taylor to help with her stage presence prior to launching MC17? (Monday 22 June 2026; 02:26)

It's a wrap (114,029) by Bobby A from United States MC's 2016 New Year's Eve disastrous performance broke her as well. It broke her so much that she wrote Portrait. MC really hasn't been the same on any stage since that awful moment. I hope she can find her groove again on stage by moving more and singing live. Wouldn't it be cool if she partnered up with Tiana Taylor to help with her stage presence prior to launching MC17? (Monday 22 June 2026; 02:26) this is a reply to message 114,028

It's a wrap (114,028) by MusicfanJ from Germany "I think Nick leaving broke her to the core." That's what I think too. And it's so sad. Mariah really thought it is a "love story" and he did "the impossible" but that clownish, egomaniac man only broke her inner heart. He and Stella are the worst. Back then I had a bad feeling when the news were telling that she will marry him after such a short time. But that he became such a nightmare, it was a bad surprise. Mariah always wanted a stable family for own (after all her experiences from childhood on) but he left her with two kids and made many babies with diffrent women. He's a shame as a man and as a person. A second divorce is one thing and hard enough, but Nick made her look like a fool. I also feel sorry for the children, they will have questions soon. I hope they can be a little support for Mariah when they are grown-up. Mariah needs a true soul, I hope one day she'll find him. She deserves happiness with a real man. But no more clowns, then it's better to be alone and find inner peace and strength again. Good friends can help too. (Sunday 21 June 2026; 14:34)

It's a wrap (114,028) by MusicfanJ from Germany "I think Nick leaving broke her to the core." That's what I think too. And it's so sad. Mariah really thought it is a "love story" and he did "the impossible" but that clownish, egomaniac man only broke her inner heart. He and Stella are the worst. Back then I had a bad feeling when the news were telling that she will marry him after such a short time. But that he became such a nightmare, it was a bad surprise. Mariah always wanted a stable family for own (after all her experiences from childhood on) but he left her with two kids and made many babies with diffrent women. He's a shame as a man and as a person. A second divorce is one thing and hard enough, but Nick made her look like a fool. I also feel sorry for the children, they will have questions soon. I hope they can be a little support for Mariah when they are grown-up. Mariah needs a true soul, I hope one day she'll find him. She deserves happiness with a real man. But no more clowns, then it's better to be alone and find inner peace and strength again. Good friends can help too. (Sunday 21 June 2026; 14:34) this is a reply to message 114,026

It's a wrap (114,026) by Lambi from USA I feel like she was pretty much the same until around 2014. Post-divorce, the triple D's and clown contour got a little too desperate. I think Nick leaving broke her to the core. Mariah has always been about looks, in my opinion. I mean, it's Hollywood, you kind of have to be. She was always fixing her hair, even in the 90s, always making sure you shot her from her good side. It's just that in the 2000s, Britney, Christina, Beyoncé, Aaliyah, and other up-and-coming pop girlies all had formidable sex appeal. There was just more competition, and Mariah made sure she was up to par. She stuck it out naturally for as long as possible, facially at least. Her look that night on Idol when she bopped Nicki's head off with, "Not everybody has that," looked like she was straight out of the Honey remix video. The Stella era is really when she started heavily experimenting with Botox, which she most likely despised because she ended up redeeming herself in 2018 with yet another beauty peak and I honestly think she looks good even today. She hasn't had the bee-sting lips or the MJ nose. She thickens her lips via makeup and, in my assessment, did a non-invasive nose slimming procedure, where they inject filler to achieve the desired shape but it's very minimal. She sort of just harmonizes with her natural features, which I actually appreciate. It's just the boobs that are overdone. (Saturday 20 June 2026; 11:26)

It's a wrap (114,027) by nancy from Switzerland Mc has always been into fashion. But she put music first. She also took care of her voice with tea and honey. And now she replaced tea with Champagne splashes. I remember the interviews of the Charmbracelet era. (Larry King etc. They were so spontaneous comparing to what I see today. Eg. The project. In 2014 she started rambling and being very awkward. Eg. The Breakfast Club.) She is in the I do not care club. The clothes now fit a lot better. She used to wear too tight clothes at times. Especially in the Rainbow, Glitter and Stella era. The face looks great thanks to her stylists. In a few photos the lips are too thick in my opinion. (Saturday 20 June 2026; 23:58) this is a reply to message 114,026

It's a wrap (114,026) by Lambi from USA I feel like she was pretty much the same until around 2014. Post-divorce, the triple D's and clown contour got a little too desperate. I think Nick leaving broke her to the core. Mariah has always been about looks, in my opinion. I mean, it's Hollywood, you kind of have to be. She was always fixing her hair, even in the 90s, always making sure you shot her from her good side. It's just that in the 2000s, Britney, Christina, Beyoncé, Aaliyah, and other up-and-coming pop girlies all had formidable sex appeal. There was just more competition, and Mariah made sure she was up to par. She stuck it out naturally for as long as possible, facially at least. Her look that night on Idol when she bopped Nicki's head off with, "Not everybody has that," looked like she was straight out of the Honey remix video. The Stella era is really when she started heavily experimenting with Botox, which she most likely despised because she ended up redeeming herself in 2018 with yet another beauty peak and I honestly think she looks good even today. She hasn't had the bee-sting lips or the MJ nose. She thickens her lips via makeup and, in my assessment, did a non-invasive nose slimming procedure, where they inject filler to achieve the desired shape but it's very minimal. She sort of just harmonizes with her natural features, which I actually appreciate. It's just the boobs that are overdone. (Saturday 20 June 2026; 11:26)

It's a wrap (114,026) by Lambi from USA I feel like she was pretty much the same until around 2014. Post-divorce, the triple D's and clown contour got a little too desperate. I think Nick leaving broke her to the core. Mariah has always been about looks, in my opinion. I mean, it's Hollywood, you kind of have to be. She was always fixing her hair, even in the 90s, always making sure you shot her from her good side. It's just that in the 2000s, Britney, Christina, Beyoncé, Aaliyah, and other up-and-coming pop girlies all had formidable sex appeal. There was just more competition, and Mariah made sure she was up to par. She stuck it out naturally for as long as possible, facially at least. Her look that night on Idol when she bopped Nicki's head off with, "Not everybody has that," looked like she was straight out of the Honey remix video. The Stella era is really when she started heavily experimenting with Botox, which she most likely despised because she ended up redeeming herself in 2018 with yet another beauty peak and I honestly think she looks good even today. She hasn't had the bee-sting lips or the MJ nose. She thickens her lips via makeup and, in my assessment, did a non-invasive nose slimming procedure, where they inject filler to achieve the desired shape but it's very minimal. She sort of just harmonizes with her natural features, which I actually appreciate. It's just the boobs that are overdone. (Saturday 20 June 2026; 11:26) this is a reply to message 114,017

It's a wrap (114,017) by Dave from USA I would agree. It is odd that once she broke away from Tommy, where you would think she would continue to shine personally, she actually seemed to have less and less self esteem publicly. I'm not sure if it was the declining voice, which appears shot now, or because she started to put so much of her identity on her antics and looks, that as she aged, she grew more insecure. I was watching an old tape from when I saw her live in 92. She was so alive up on stage and her voice was so incredible. (Thursday 18 June 2026; 20:36)

It's a wrap (114,025) by Bobby A from United States Your post made me watch MC's First Vision today. It was nice to see how MC captivated the whole music industry with her voice. I don't think any other female artist will ever come along and have the rise to stardom like MC. Thinking about next year, I really feel we are going to be talking next year how MC brought it home with MC17. I just feel it in my soul. (Saturday 20 June 2026; 06:12) this is a reply to message 114,021

It's a wrap (114,021) by Edward from USA Jamie, that's exactly how I feel. I don't think most OG fans wanted Mariah to stay exactly the same forever. We just wanted her to keep the things that made us love her in the first place, her authenticity, her humility, and the focus on her talent instead of all the superficial stuff. Her metamorphosis on "Butterfly" was shockingly amazing to me, she was sexy without even trying. Up until around 2012, she was still a diva, but there was still a lot of the old Mariah there. Now she seems like she's on autopilot. Her concerts are basically the same show over and over again. She just stands there, looking more focused on not missing one of her many lipping cues or forgetting the lyrics than actually connecting with the audience. Everything feels flat like the shoes she refuses to wear. Like you and Bill, I'm just happy I got to experience her when she was at her best. At least we have all that amazing music to go back to, and those remixes were everything. For me, the closes she got to replicate 90's remixes was with "Triumphant", after that, most of it was pretty meh. As much as I love Mariah, I wouldn't pay to see her live at this point. I feel the same way about Madonna. Her shows are definitely more interesting, and the production value is still impressive, but she barely moves. She's in amazing shape, but you can still see the difference. She's also still leaning on the same shock-value tactics that worked 30 years ago, and they just don't hit the same when you're pushing 70. (Friday 19 June 2026; 17:48)

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