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Walter Afansieff (96,519) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
On the balance of probabilities, I think it more than less likely Walter, during the process, altered and pieced together different melodies Mariah came up with. He also created all of the instrumentation which is integral to the success of the song. You only have to listen to the So So Def version of AIWFCIY to see what a horror show it could have been production-wise. Credit where credit is due. You can't deny someone their rights to IP just because you don't like them.

Interesting point I just found out: his real - or original - name is Vladimir.
(Tuesday 3 November 2020; 11:04)
Re: The mother (96,500) (96,518) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Let's see if Bobby A actually re-reads the message and apologises. I doubt it. For what it is worth there are many many many people on here whose messages I enjoy. Mostly it is the people with a sense of humour and brain. I was even starting to take to him. Sigh.

Anyway, I have decided Mariah should defo be releasing a Christmas song with Ariana Grindr and JHud. Perhaps it could be called "Snowflakes" and dedicated to O Canada and all her thumbs-up friends.
(Tuesday 3 November 2020; 10:57)
Through The Christmas Rain (96,509) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Okay, you guys, this is freaky. You will not believe you have never noticed this. Apologies if you have.

I was listening to All I Want For Christmas Is You (Tokyo Dome) and the next random song that came on was Through The Rain. Play those songs in that order. And about seven seconds into Through The Rain you should be freaking out.

How did I not notice this before?
(Tuesday 3 November 2020; 00:21)
Re: The mother (96,485) (96,493) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
"I used to think you were an insider but clearly you aren't."

You are inferring that you, yourself, are an insider. Don't hide behind a keyboard. Reveal yourself or GTFO. At least Mariah had the courage to play her hand.

"Mariah's hated her since the 911 call and only trotted her out for press opportunities."

Not stated as opinion but, rather, fact. Citations, please. Present your evidence. Or, as some would say: "show the receipts". If you do not, you are still a rather questionable witness and a rather irksome troll - as you historically always did prove yourself to be.

"Anyone who takes her memoirs seriously has to have a very low IQ or emotional/psychological issues of their own."

Harsher than I would have put it. I do get what you're saying but I critique out of love - you just sound like you absolutely f***ing hate Mariah Carey. Psychological issues, you say? The irony overfloweth.

Fly away, now.
(Monday 2 November 2020; 01:16)
Jade has had a baby (96,491) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
The beautiful Jade has (unsurprisingly) had a beautiful baby boy. Much love to her, Marv and baby Kai.
(Sunday 1 November 2020; 17:37)
Re: Where I Belong should be a single (96,472) (96,475) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Lol. Actually laughed. Humour him. For he knows not what plain he lives on.
(Saturday 31 October 2020; 10:24)
Re: This should be a single, Busta & MC (96,463) (96,464) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
I was braced to not like it. But I actually like it a lot. Would this make No.1 is the States? Genuinely I'm asking. Does this have a chance?
(Friday 30 October 2020; 14:17)
O Canada (96,460) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Well, you asked for it sweetheart.

"I've been creeping this board for years..."

Yes, you've said that twice now. "Creep" would seem an apt word since you are yet another new poster using me to try to win friends and influence people.

"...to read genuinely insightful and kind-hearted comments from other fans..."

If you don't like my comments, why do you read them? Or is it that you love to hate me and are just using me to try to w... oh, just see above.

"...yet I've always found it confounding that most people seem to be fine with Andrew from the UK consistently putting people down for their opinions, statements and comments."

Funny, I very recently asked people what Loverboy version they preferred. I think Firecracker is superior to Candy but did not point out that anyone who thinks Candy the better song is a crazy loon who needs Mutton Dressed as Lamb to slip them some Prozac. Growth.

"I'm genuinely curious as to why this person is still allowed to use this board when nearly every single message he posts includes some sort of demeaning, hurtful or downright rude remark to another board member."

One out of three of your messages on this board are hurtful and rude toward me.

"Shouldn't we all be celebrated for having our own opinions and for sharing our love for our favourite artist?"

You want to be "celebrated" for having an opinion? Would you like the full fanfare or something a bit more subdued and Covid secure?

"Am I missing something?"

Yes. A personality.
(Thursday 29 October 2020; 18:31)
Big Willy (96,422) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Not only has William disappeared but his profile picture, also. Far be it for me to care. But, er, yeah, I kinda do. A little truth bomb, perhaps: Bill, I come on here 50% of the time to read your daily posts and factoids.

If it was me, I am sorry. If it wasn't, tell me who I'm beating up. Or maybe you just cannot be arsed anymore. In any case, I do very much hope you are well and okay.

I am sure your daily and ridiculously geeky adoration of "Ms Carey, Mariah" (said Aretha style) is very much missed here. I am certain everyone will thumbs up for your return.
(Sunday 25 October 2020; 01:41)
Re: The Rarities ranked (96,401) (96,402) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
As should Mariah have haha.
(Thursday 22 October 2020; 18:19)
The Rarities ranked (96,400) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Now I happen to know that William cannot resist a list. Come out, come out, wherever you are.

1. Everything Fades Away
2. Firelover Crackerboy
3. One Night
4. All I Live For
5. Here We Go Round Again
6. Out Here On My Own
7. Cool On You
8. Mesmerised
9. Do You Think Of Me
10. Slipping Away
11. Can You Think Of Me
12. Close My Eyes Acoustic
13. Save The Day

I think I have been a bit unfair to All I Live For. I cannot get the chorus of this song out of my head. I just woke up singing it.

The Rarities is one of the best things Mariah had ever released. A little part of me thinks she should have rerecorded all the tracks that were not previously released and made a new album with them.
(Thursday 22 October 2020; 09:31)
Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,389) (96,392) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Oh Eddie. Eddie, Eddie, Eddie. I was quoting some lines to Toddlicious that he has himself sung before. But I won't sell him out and post the links. I shall simply say this: he is one of our most talented colonists.
(Wednesday 21 October 2020; 22:08)
Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,388) (96,391) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Oh, of course she said she preferred the Cameo version lmao she's Mariah Carey: she will say whatever is advantageous to her at the time. How many examples can you think of? Let us take a recent one. STD starts to tank and Mariah quickly films a video of her posing, lying down, listening to it, commenting that of all her songs she's never listened to one of them as much as VD. Right. Her career is a constructed act. And whomsoever doesn't know and accept that by now frankly doesn't know Mariah at all.
(Wednesday 21 October 2020; 22:05)
Re: Let's get back to being fans (96,326) (96,376) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Listen, Big Willy. I let the rather cheeky rebuttal of my very pertinent and astute points go. I even let the Celine Dion clown pants thing go (clearly the world is not ready for circus-chic, yet - but A New Day will come). So you get your bum back here and post some stuff about a spreadsheet of all the Mariah spreadsheets you have made, or something.

Seriously, are you okay? I would hope that you are okay and well.
(Wednesday 21 October 2020; 02:30)
Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,373) (96,375) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Eddie thinks I am gay for you but you don't need romance, you just wanna dance. Right? Don't worry. Unlike Eddie after a few cocktails and a free cab ride, my lips are sealed.
(Wednesday 21 October 2020; 02:00)
Re: Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,355) (96,360) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Oh Todd, I thought one look at you looking like a dream come true would leave me speechless like you always do.

But alas, I am no longer in England. I am now in Wales. South Wales. The old one. Apparently, there's a new one somewhere.
(Tuesday 20 October 2020; 01:20)
Here We Go Round Again (96,354) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
It is well-documented that I am no fan of the debut album. But this song is infectious and fun. I even love the ending Mariah czlls "iffy". Iffy? It was perfect. This should have been second in the tracklisting on the album instead on There's Got To Be A Way which is terrible. It also should have been a Migra... I mean a single.
(Monday 19 October 2020; 17:58)
One Night (96,353) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
So even Treacle Tots hates One Night. I do not get this. At all. One Night is Daydream era voice Mariah opening with a beautiful ballad intro and bursting into a wickedly funny, bouncy, melodic, fun song. I imagine Summer sunset evenings with young groups of girls and guys in shorts walking through Miami by the beach, electric possibilities in the air, everyone having fun, laughing, throwing glances, enjoying life. And Mariah walking through them singing to them to keep it in their pants.

This song is amazing.
(Monday 19 October 2020; 17:52)
Firecracker Loverboy vs Cameo Loverboy vs Remix Lo (96,352) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Miss Stacey, you have relinquished your right to an opinion by stating you prefer the Cameo version of Loverboy. For the love(rboy) of all that is good and pure, what is it about the slow-paced, no-chorus, bad-intro, two-merged-songs Loverboy that you prefer?

Honestly, Firecracker Loverboy is a thousand times superior to Cameo Loverboy and exponentially superior to Remix Loverboy. We all have our opinions. I am just lucky mine are always correct.

I think Firelover Crackerboy is one of the most exciting songs Mariah has ever recorded and I can only the imagine the excitement on the set when the crew heard it. That song in 2001 would have debuted at 1 and stayed there for months.

Would be interesting to hear which version everyone prefers and why.
(Monday 19 October 2020; 17:46)
Re: Christmas special (96,339) (96,341) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
I see. Rather than admitting you offer ridiculous, racist, sexist and ageist insults and unfounded accusations backed up with zero evidentiary support you have decided to start posting reasonable comments. Good for you. There may be hope for you, yet. (However, I use the word "maybe" with a due sense of exhaustion and dread as I am sure you will revert and let everyone down again, soon.)
(Sunday 18 October 2020; 13:05)
Re: An objective view (96,337) (96,340) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
I would argue that very few people dislike Mariah's Christmas music being popular at Christmastime. However, it is fair to ponder if this is a contributory factor in re: her substantial decline in popularity in the last decade.

Caution sold dismally compared to Celine Dion's Courage for example. And Celine packs out arenas of which Mariah would struggle to fill the entrance halls. So something has clearly gone wrong. What went wrong, I submit, is the following:

Mariah is musically stuck in the past. "All I Live For" may be "soooo 90's" but what of her music since that decade? It is arguably "soooo 00's". The music scene has moved on and left Mariah clinging to formulas she can lay claim to having helped create. That is all well and good but nobody really much cares. An "oh, wow, is that right?" isn't going to make people interested in her music beyond a fleeting glance.

Mariah's image of an overweight hoochy mama in a bodysuit or ball gown for many years was not appealing - with Mariah either making herself look old or desperate or both. Her sense of fashion has been terrible. Add to that ridiculous wigs or hair straightened to within an inch of its life and makeup so heavy Mariah's face has trouble holding it up, Mariah's image has been as comical as a clown's.

Mariah's attitude screams spoiled diva. And for "diva" read any of the plethora of rude words for people who are disliked. Sycophants and delulons will quickly jump to media "not getting" Mariah's sense of humour. However, many people are not convinced there is actually anything funny in her attitude and behaviour. And certainly an American constantly doing a faux British accent doesn't go down well here. But UK aside, Mariah treating and carrying herself like a Queen is vulgar to a great, many people. Many people like to identify with music stars not revere them as Gods (like some sycophantic, emotionally desperate freaks (sycofreaks, if you will) on here do, for example). Mariah appears more out of touch than ever.

Mariah constantly peddles a woe-is-me story and not many people care. In fact, many people find it a total turn off that the extremely talented multi-millionaire many many times over constantly harps on about how tough her life was 25 years ago. I cannot recall the last time I read Lady Gaga bemoaning her life or Britney Spears crying about how unfair everything was. Mariah is so used to pushing a narrative she has kost sense of how to do anything else. And there are so few fans left she probably believes its too dangerous and late in the game to change.

Mariah at best prefers Black people and at worst doesnt very much like White and Latino people. It's her choice. We know she has made it and the decision making process is not of importance here. But the choice has been evident and striking, noticeable to a great many people around the world. Arguments are made that it is to do with the music she makes etc. But this is a contributory factor. (I am sure this point will wake up the sleeper cell of black militants on this board). Add this to Mariah now arguably trying to tack herself onto and perhaps into the middle of the BLM movement. People are turned off by agenda and feel alienated by her. Once she sas everything to everybody but people - perhaps quite rightly - felt shunned by her. So sales fell off and continue to fall.

Mariah's performances are lacklustre. Her concert shows are low on production value and dull to watch. Mariah stands as a statue, afraid to move lest she look less than her best for a second. The songs she sings are sung and lipped in exactly the same way she sang them on the previous tour. Granted she has mixed it up slightly recently with Glitter segments and additions such as Anytime You Need A Friend but there is never much of anything you cannot watch on YouTube. And her singing is lazy. Rather than measured singing, notes are thrown out and lost and it comes across as lazy. Arena tours are so expensive now many people can only choose one or two to attend per year. There are far fresher and more entertaining and professional shows to attend than a Mariah Carey show.


I could go on and on, but there are many reasons as to why Mariah does not sell well and is relatively ignored and under appreciated compared to her contemporaries. Imagine for a second Madonna releasing an album of unreleased songs from the 90's and 00's. The No.1 spot would be occupied by such an album for so long they may rename the spot after it.

Now, I can argue Mariah's case in many respects better than anyone, and provide "the receipts", so to speak. I have yet to meet the person who could win an argument with me in which they were criticising Mariah Carey. But I do not deny truths as to do so is vulgar and anathema to men and women of good conscience. Facing truths is the best and only way to fix wrongs and perhaps Mariah doesn't care about any of the above - and good for her were that to be the case. But unless she makes drastic changes she can expect lower than expected album and ticket sales and a lot less respect from the general public afforded to her contemporaries.

Mariah is arguably not the "Queen of Christmas". For example, her second Christmas album has sold less copies than mine has. It is *the Christmas song* she has that itself is "Queen of Christmas". But heaven forfend All I Want For Christmas Is You becoming so ubiquitous and overplayed it becomes detested or uncool to like. Game over. But I doubt it will not continue to be stellar. It is potentially one of the greatest songs ever recorded. And long after we have all returned to the earth in ages hence, that song and that amazing vocal will still be played every December. And nobody will really care who Mariah was or what mistakes she made in her career. She will likely be known as that woman who sings that Christmas song and her great great great great grandchildren will be on a Christmas tree shaped spaceship hurtling towards New Earth singing it at the top of their lungs whilst never having had to work a day in their life because of it.
(Sunday 18 October 2020; 12:57)
Re: Relevancy (96,329) (96,338) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
What a shame. You have been exposed. Nothing you ever say ever again is of consequence.
(Saturday 17 October 2020; 23:36)
Re: An objective view (96,323) (96,331) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
"An objective view."

Really?

"This new generation of music listeners... make fun of special needs people on tik tok."

Really?

"True fans of music and artistry respect and love her music, even if they don't consider themselves to be lambs."

I know music lovers who hate Mariah's music. Sure this is an accurate objective statement?

"Mariah will not get the appreciation she deserves as long as she isn't making the trash music that's popular these days."

All currently popular music is trash? And STD is Song of the Century?

"It's also incredibly tacky to deny her experiences."

People are questioning her honesty based upon contradictory reports and contradictory visual evidence, especially as the re-editing of history rides the bandwagon of BLM riots.

Objective? Really? Please.
(Saturday 17 October 2020; 18:28)
Re: Relevancy (96,319) (96,329) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Okay let's give you a chance to be an adult and not a dark, damaged little queen.

"It's not Mariah's fault that the media has painted a false image of her for years now."

What image of her have they painted? Please quote different media sources and cite evidence as to why these representations are false.

"Let's not act as if sexism isn't the foundation for more than 75% of her criticism."

Please cite the criticism to which you are referring and then show how it is specifically based upon Mariah's gender.

"Men just don't like seeing powerful unapologetic women like Mariah."

Please publish your evidence for this claim. I am a man and I like seeing powerful women. So you're onto a difficult one already.

Come on. Prove you are not just a pathetic child.
(Saturday 17 October 2020; 18:18)
Re: Let's get back to being fans (96,312) (96,315) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
You are missing the point. It has moved past "Mariah's own truths" to potentially "Mariah's false representations". But like Bill and others, you could probably be smacked around the head with actual truths or outright facts or reasonable assumptions based on the balance of probabilities and you wouldn't care.
(Saturday 17 October 2020; 01:59)

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