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About Bill from the UK: I love Mariah more than you do. London Daydream Tour Attendee.

Re: MC hurry up (100,852) (100,853) by Bill from the UK My relationship with My All is that I won't play it for months, and then I will listen to it on repeat for days on end, and nothing but that. (Saturday 30 July 2022; 10:31)

Re: Reach For The Sky is Fly Like A Bird (100,833) (100,834) by Bill from the UK That's a plausible theory. I'm a big Tori Amos fan and she was explaining in an interview that her unused songs often found their way onto later albums in a different guise. So she would for example take the bridge from an unused song and apply it to a new song that was being written, use a chord progression, a lyric idea, a melodic strand. She shared some demos and you could hear the beginnings of other songs that came years later. In short she said she never really wasted anything. A real example from Mariah is Save the Day. The song was originally planned for the original The Art of Letting Go album, but got re-worked for The Rarities with the Lauryn Hill sample etc., but I expect the structure/skeleton of the song was the same. (Tuesday 26 July 2022; 12:24)

Re: What sank Charmbracelet? (100,828) (100,829) by Bill from the UK Got my hopes set for The Rarities II You which will feature CB leftover tracks, There For Me, I Lose Control, Skydiving, We're Not Making Love Anymore and the demo tape. (Monday 25 July 2022; 21:46)

Re: What sank Charmbracelet? (100,807) (100,825) by Bill from the UK Yeh it's probably a combination of what everybody has already said to be fair. Saying that though, how do we think the album has aged? It's definitely a "mood" album, and has grown on me over the years. I don't spin it often, but when I do, I always appreciate the laid back R&B, and I've grown to appreciate the stylistic approach she took to her vocal delivery. Lyrically it's up there with Butterfly in my view. It's odd that Through the Rain tanked in the US, as it was really well received across other markets. (Monday 25 July 2022; 20:41)

Re: Walter (100,795) (100,796) by Bill from the UK This is unhealthy. (Friday 22 July 2022; 22:02)

Re: Top 5 Did I Do That? Top 5 Triumphant (100,788) (100,791) by Bill from the UK Did I Do That? 5. All I Want for Christmas Is You (mic feed) 4. Why You Mad? 3. I'll Be There (casket version) 2. NYE (foiled by Dick Clarke Productions) 1. Mariah's World documentary Triumphant 5. If It's Over (Saturday Night Live) 4. America the Beautiful (NBA finals) 3. I'll Be There (MTV Unplugged) 2. All I Want for Christmas Is You (studio) 1. Daydream tour (London stop, 1996) (Friday 22 July 2022; 04:12)

Re: Just one more time with Walter A. (100,770) (100,773) by Bill from the UK Their last time together was actually 1997. Lead the Way was written and recorded during Butterfly but not used until Glitter came along. (Tuesday 19 July 2022; 17:18)

Re: Thoughts: which album do you think MC dislikes (100,754) (100,759) by Bill from the UK The debut, as she only got to produce one song (Vanishing), and she said the album seemed over produced to her. She never worked with any of those big named producers ever again (Ric Wake, Rhett Lawrence, Narada Michael Walden), so she clearly didn't rate their output. Emotions was much more organic and acoustic sounding. (Sunday 17 July 2022; 20:42)

Re: Narada Michael Walden (100,745) (100,756) by Bill from the UK Thanks for posting that. He's not how I imagined him. I'm unsure if the four songs he mentions includes those he produced but didn't write? Only one composition of theirs ended up on the album (I Don't Wanna Cry), and I Lose Control never made it onto the album (though hearing Penny Ford's version, I'd love to hear Mariah's 1990 version which NMW has). So, I wonder if they wrote more together? Apparently Mariah felt he was too domineering and didn't like the title of the song and said she would have named it something else. Shame they never worked together again as IDWC is superb, and the Daydream tour live version was great at every stop of the tour (especially London, which I attended). (Sunday 17 July 2022; 09:59)

Re: Top ten proflic song lyrics (100,746) (100,755) by Bill from the UK And so we finished the Moet Started feeling liberated And I surrendered as you took me in your arms I was so caught up in the moment I couldn't bare to let you go yet So I threw caution to the wind And started listening To my longing heart Then you softly pressed your lips to mine And feelings surfaced I'd suppressed for such a long time And for a while I forgot the sorrow and pain And melted with you as we stood there in the rain I mean wow. And who else would rhyme Moet with liberated lol. (Sunday 17 July 2022; 09:06)

Re: Vocabulary (100,743) (100,744) by Bill from the UK You're a wise lady Stacey, thank you. (Saturday 16 July 2022; 14:42)

Re: Vocabulary (100,738) (100,741) by Bill from the UK Thanks for letting me have the last word. Here it is: you're still wrong and I wasn't laughing about her having MS. It's a genuine concern that she has some debilitating illness if she is unable to walk unaided. (Saturday 16 July 2022; 09:48)

Re: Vocabulary (100,735) (100,737) by Bill from the UK Here's what actually happened. 1. Terna wrote a post saying he didn't like the use of the phrase "or whatever". 2. Some posters agreed, and then it went off topic, as message boards often do. 3. You waded in and said as she was inducted into the SHOF that there isn't anything wrong with her vocabulary (missing the point of Terna's post, as he only spoke about conversational vocab). 4. Stacey agreed with you that she is a great songwriter. 5. I agreed with you that she is a great songwriter. 6. You then lost your shit. (Friday 15 July 2022; 21:07)

Re: Vocabulary (100,729) (100,731) by Bill from the UK I know, the bridge is probably one of the best she has ever done. I love the organ and the atmospheric music, it's so moving, and her lush full vocals on top of it all are incredible. (Friday 15 July 2022; 12:22)

Re: Vocabulary (100,726) (100,728) by Bill from the UK Lol, indeed. That was whole point, no one ever said anything bad about her songwriting so I don't even know how Lady B came to that egregious conclusion. Stacey I had to reply, as when I read your message, Till the End of Time had just started (I always listen to Emotions on a Friday, have done since 1993 lol). (Friday 15 July 2022; 10:41)

Re: Vocabulary (100,723) (100,724) by Bill from the UK You're talking nonsense and confusing me with Terna. I never said anything negative about her conversational vocabulary, nor her songwriting. (Friday 15 July 2022; 00:27)

Re: Vocabulary (100,712) (100,720) by Bill from the UK Yep, and not one of those comments downplayed her songwriting, as you insinuated was the case. (Thursday 14 July 2022; 15:15)

Re: Bringin' On The Heartbreak (100,718) (100,719) by Bill from the UK It's a studio version with a fake audience added to make it seem live. (Thursday 14 July 2022; 15:14)

Re: Vocabulary (100,707) (100,711) by Bill from the UK The topic was about her conversational vocabulary, not her songwriting. We're all in agreement she is an incredibly gifted and talented songwriter which an unerring sense of melody, harmony, and resonating lyrics. Of course Crapfinity is the exception to that rule. (Wednesday 13 July 2022; 21:53)

Re: Vocabulary (100,702) (100,703) by Bill from the UK It could be true. She may have a debilitating illness like MS, arthritis, Parkinson's etc. but just hasn't announced it publicly. Would answer a lot of questions. (Tuesday 12 July 2022; 19:58)

Re: Vocabulary (100,696) (100,698) by Bill from the UK Lol. But Stacey I see people being escorted down stairs all the time and say to myself "there goes another anxious person", do you not see this every day occurrence where you live? Lol. This is a new one I'll have to add to my collection of excuses for the future. And Stacey I am jesting of course, I too have real anxiety (but can walk unaided) so know what it is like at times. (Tuesday 12 July 2022; 00:21)

Re: Vocabulary (100,685) (100,686) by Bill from the UK She ran quite easily in heels at the Madison Square Garden concert, so it's probably a combination of corset, inebriation and (flicks through excuse card index) a malfunctioning ear monitor. (Sunday 10 July 2022; 11:36)

Re: MC's masters (100,656) (100,658) by Bill from the UK I think she owns the Sony masters, hence why The Rarities and MC30 EPs were issued. She had trawled through her archive to find all that stuff. (Tuesday 5 July 2022; 07:52)

Re: Some trivia for you (100,651) (100,652) by Bill from the UK Edit: Actually C&C Extended Mix was on the Australian CD single. Still one of the harder to find remixes though up until the EP was issued. (Monday 4 July 2022; 15:56)

Re: Some trivia for you (100,648) (100,651) by Bill from the UK Cool, haha glad my geeky knowledge of MC releases is useful every so often. I have often thought about brain dumping everything onto a website for future generations haha. I was going to say Underneath the Stars but I was convinced it saw a release in Australia as a double-A side with Forever. However, upon consultation with the site's discography, although it used the cover and had the track on the release, it wasn't a double-A release. The Soul Convention Remix of AYNAF is on all the CD singles across multiple territories. In fact, the USA cassette has the rarer C&C Extended Mix, which was only on the US cassette, the UK/EU vinyl and some promo vinyl releases. I believe the MC30 EP was the first time it was made available digitally. (Monday 4 July 2022; 15:25)

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