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About Bill from the UK:
I love Mariah more than you do.
London Daydream Tour Attendee.
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Damizza won't stop vomiting untruths (112,397)
by Bill from the UK
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I've said it before, I'll say it again. Thirsty always was about Damizza.
(Saturday 15 November 2025; 11:30)
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Damizza won't stop vomiting untruths (112,390)
by Randy from USA
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I saw this and cursed out my phone. This never happened. Like MC once said, what would that sound like, I sing and she does something else. I totally don't believe it and I wish he'd get a life or a career besides discussing a woman he hasn't seen or talked to in 20+ years. Dirtball. Every time he talks I feel the need to bathe in some sudsy ammonia. I hope he's not on the hand.
(Friday 14 November 2025; 21:16)
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Article: Mariah Carey's rare demo tape hits auction (112,385)
by Bill from the UK
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Yes, I still have my collection. Well, I had to sell a large portion of it "when times got rough", but I maintained what I always called my "core" collection, which was all her UK cassettes, CDs, promos and vinyl, all her Euro Maxi CDs, anything with something unique to it (picture sleeve, picture disc, special remix not found elsewhere). Now that almost everything is available digitally, it stays nicely preserved in its box, but occasionally on rainy days I take it out and spend the day with it. Digital will never beat physical.
(Thursday 13 November 2025; 21:34)
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Article: Mariah Carey's rare demo tape hits auction (112,381)
by TJ from Norway
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I just wonder if she will ever release that demo? That is something I really would love to add to my collection. It's on the shelf collecting dust, but it's mine.
I could never get rid of that collection, but I don't play cds that much because the cd player is not in the living room, and I really need a new sound system at home.
How about you guys? Do you still have a physical collection? Maybe you never had a collection at all?
(Thursday 13 November 2025; 16:06)
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Alzheimer's (112,374)
by Bill from the UK
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I thought you were taking a break.
(Wednesday 12 November 2025; 20:38)
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by Anonymous from USA
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I know you said you're not a writer but I beg to differ. Your imagination goes wild with speculation. I think you've got true potential. Very promising.
(Wednesday 12 November 2025; 01:56)
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Article: Mariah Carey's rare demo tape hits auction (112,363)
by Bill from the UK
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Wow. I hope Mariah bids and wins the auction and then releases this gem for us all to enjoy.
(Wednesday 12 November 2025; 08:34)
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Alzheimer's (112,309)
by Bill from the UK
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"She's given us 30 years of crazy live performances, isn't that enough?" It's actually only 6 years of crazy live performances.
(Saturday 8 November 2025; 08:13)
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by JLR from United States
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The fact that you guys are diagnosing her without knowing a single thing or being a medical professional is wild. Just throwing random medical terms out there like it's any of your business is crazy. I hope she stays away from this message board. If you don't like how she performs now then don't watch. She's given us 30 years of crazy live performances, isn't that enough? You know she's human right? Age is a process nobody can escape, some grace would be nice.
(Friday 7 November 2025; 20:13)
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The arrogance (112,282)
by Bill from the UK
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They were referring to the “It’s Time” video, not the Israel and Palestine situation. It’s a sponsored video made in the spirit of fun, not a political statement on a genocide. Pull yourself together.
(Thursday 6 November 2025; 17:53)
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The arrogance (112,278)
by Geronimo from USA
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Have a free correction for your benefit: distinguish between the fact that while, perhaps you are not "that deep", the matter at hand is most certainly "that deep". You and Mariah will soon see more clearly. Now, "cheers, cheers, cheers".
(Thursday 6 November 2025; 15:59)
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The arrogance (112,274)
by Bill from the UK
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I am sure you'll forget it once you're told about the next flag to overlay on your social media accounts.
Congrats to Mariah for hailing in the season and here's to a successful end of the year to her.
(Thursday 6 November 2025; 14:06)
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The arrogance (112,268)
by Geronimo from USA
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You seem to be attempting to miss the point in public on purpose. Standing up for what is right is non-negotiable - especially when the public is bringing your betrayal to your attention while you try to hustle religious songs at Christmas about love, joy, and peace.
If she had any foresight at all, she might want to consider canceling her Christmas charade this year - especially since her latest album stands as a very public statement regarding the difference between what is happening on stage and what audiences will be hearing.
Entertainment is all fine and good. But, when the time comes to step up, you either step up or be counted for what you are. If all Mariah sang about was "panties to the side", then perhaps addressing her as a moral being would be a moot point. Not everybody has to say everything, every time, about every issue, but Mariah Carey is making money endorsing a company whose CEO is using the money that Mariah Carey is making for Sephora to donate millions of dollars intended to directly support a racist, apartheid state currently committing a live-streamed genocide
I believe Mariah Carey has used the public airways to the show pictures of Nelson Mandela in her deluxe apartment in the sky, no? Then, it's relevant to hold her accountable for the fact that all you have to do is Google "Sephora boycott" and the first three stories that pop up have to do with a Christian woman who sings songs about Jesus, but is dedicating her talent to the people who are destroying the lives of the people born where he lived and was literally executed by the state because he was committed to being an authentic enough version of himself that he became a threat to the goals of the Roman empire.
Mariah Carey, who is not broke, chooses to use what she calls her God-given talent to enrich people "making large donations to former President Donald Trump's 2024 presidential campaign" while she sings "its tiiiiiime" to listen to her lip sync "glory to the newborn King" and "peace on earth". While she partners with Sephora, company owner Bernard Arnault invests hundreds of millions in Israeli companies while that nation is actively committing what everyone whose opinion counts has acknowledged is a genocide.
She sings about diamonds and comments in public that she doesn't understand why some people don't "like" diamonds, all the while Sephora founder, chairman, and CEO Bernard Arnault - who invests hundreds of millions in Israeli companies, including Lusix, an Israeli diamond company - donates millions of dollars to companies from the country whose diamond exports fund over $1 billion of the Israeli Occupation Forces budget annually.
LVMH's Sephora stores retail products from Ahava, one of the top 8 companies on the BDS boycott list for stealing Palestine's natural resources, eviscerating its environment, and operating in illegal settlements. So it matters that Mariah Carey is either too ignorant, too greedy, or both to make a morally intelligent decision at her age.
With all the capacity she has to know better and do better, she is actively and willfully doing far less than people who have with far less but are, themselves, putting their lives and careers on the line in order to be the kind of witness to peace and love that Mariah only sings about in her songs - her notable charitable contributions notwithstanding.
And let's not forget, in her personal life, Mariah Carey made the choice to date James Packer - a man who (allegedly) gave war Benjamin Netanyahu a key to his home - also the man whose gifts to Benjamin Netanyahu are the reason why Benjamin Netanyahu is currently up on corruption charges.
These are her choices. She is not simply failing to burn her bra on stage and release a protest album. She is actively earning money with some of the most evil people currently on the world stage today. That matters - and saying so has nothing to do with "arrogance".
If Eartha Kitt can do better, Mariah Carey can do better. If Aretha Franklin, Nina Simone, Billie Holiday, Sinead O'Connor, Lauryn Hill, and the artists formerly known as the Dixie Chicks can do better (and they certainly did), then Mariah Carey can at least Google herself and recognize that she is being exposed as a fraud (again) and do something about it now.
And yes, I still love "Confetti and Champagne", because she's a phenomenal singer, a very clever songwriter, and the song is super cute. But it sounds a little different right about now.
(Thursday 6 November 2025; 03:29)
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3 albums (112,225)
by Bill from the UK
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There's a magic to the debut that was never recaptured (if I could recapture). Everyone always bleats on about working with Walter again, but I've always wanted her to collaborate with Ben Margulies again instead. Every Walter song had a similar style and structure. Same for the JD productions, and the C&C collabs. Every Carey/Margulies composition was unique and different to the one before it. The songs had a charm and innocence to them, genuine melodies and interesting arrangements. She's never had that with anyone since and it is, along with the exceptional voice, what makes the debut such a standout and my favourite.
(Monday 3 November 2025; 17:53)
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I also love her debut so much. It was so hard to only choose three, so I had to pick others. But the debut also has a special place in my heart.
(Monday 3 November 2025; 10:11)
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O Holy Night (112,183)
by Bill from the UK
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I always considered Sprung her most Halloween-esque sounding song as it has that weird high pitched whistling instrument that is used in spooky cartoons all the way through it.
(Friday 31 October 2025; 20:23)
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O Holy Night (112,161)
by Dove from United States
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I love the way she sings the first "Oh" in O Holy Night on the Merry Christmas II You version. I hate the background cheering on it.
I wish she'd do a Halloween song for my Halloween party playlist. Or a 5 or 6 song Halloween album. Ballroom Blitz? I remember when I was a little kid I would watch Wayne's World and wish Mariah sang that song. Ha ha.
Happy Halloween everyone. I hope everyone has fun tonight.
(Friday 31 October 2025; 11:59)
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3 albums (112,163)
by Bill from the UK
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I'd rather it be 3 albums we can erase from her discography than save. This is so tricky as MC's albums are good for different reasons. Like vocally I'd select the debut, Emotions and Merry Christmas. Lyrically it would be Butterfly, Charmbracelet and Memoirs. In terms of end to end enjoyment it'd be Music Box, Daydream and Emancipation. In terms of artistry it'd be Here For It All, Glitter, and Caution. So, yeh. All of them lol.
(Friday 31 October 2025; 12:35)
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3 albums (112,155)
by TJ from Norway
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Let's say that for some reason everyone on earth forgot all of MCs albums except 3 of them. Which 3 albums from her catalogue would you keep for everyone to enjoy? And why?
(Friday 31 October 2025; 06:40)
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Refreshing (112,125)
by Bill from the UK
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And "I'll Be There - casket edition" from MJ's funeral.
(Tuesday 28 October 2025; 07:09)
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by Edward from USA
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The "With You I'm Born Again", "It's Like That" and "I'll Be There" performances from the VH1 Save The Music 2005 special were all live. I was there, third row. She sung each song twice.
(Tuesday 28 October 2025; 01:59)
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by Bill from the UK
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She's done them here and there. Pretty sure the "impromptu" performance of The Art of Letting Go for the fans was live, and Make It Happen from Live8. Some of the Charmbracelet promotional shows had some songs fully live. But you're right, as a general rule they are rare as hen's teeth post-1999.
(Monday 27 October 2025; 19:05)
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Refreshing (112,118)
by Lambi from USA
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Even though I've ragged on .Paak before for his clownish behavior, I'll give credit where it's due. I genuinely appreciate his integrity when it comes to live performances. He actually got Mariah to sing fully live on a televised number. Yes, fully live. Not a single note was lipped. The last time I remember Mariah performing entirely live on TV was back in 1999 when she was promoting I Still Believe, with the rare exception of AIWFCIY on Fallon in 2013, though that one felt more like a casual kickback jam session than a proper, teched-up performance.
1999 was 26 years ago. We finally have an authentic live TV performance. We've waited way too long for this. It fills a void that's been missing for decades. Her voice may be more limited now, but I appreciate that it's 100% live, her integrity is so refreshing.
Oh and if anyone else knows of a rare instance of Mariah singing fully live on television post-I Still Believe, feel free to share.
(Monday 27 October 2025; 13:37)
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Anthony fellow lamb (112,117)
by Bill from the UK
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Happy belated birthday Bobby A. Glad to see you enjoyed your day. I hope you spun all your fave MC tracks on your deck.
(Monday 27 October 2025; 12:25)
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Anthony fellow lamb (112,112)
by Bobby A from United States
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Thank you so much, Lambs. I feel like a new person today. I had a great birthday celebration by myself reflecting on my life. Klove radio really has changed me. My future is brighter now.
(Sunday 26 October 2025; 23:40)
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Confetti and Champagne (112,110)
by Bill from the UK
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He didn't insult you sweetheart.
(Sunday 26 October 2025; 19:03)
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by Anonymous from USA
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No need for insults. I meant to reply to Travis. Obviously you didn't say anything about it.
(Sunday 26 October 2025; 12:53)
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by Bill from the UK
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I think if there was they would have been put on the special edition. She rushed that album and half of it is made up of interludes and remixes so I doubt she had anything left. I think the only song from that period was There For Me which I assume wasn't ready for when the album was released.
(Saturday 25 October 2025; 11:28)
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by Giovanni from USA
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To be honest although it's a good song and very 1999 it's probably my least favorite on Rainbow. I love the Rainbow album. I would like to know are there any unreleased songs that didn't make the album? I definitely wanna hear them.
(Friday 24 October 2025; 20:18)
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Confetti and Champagne (112,090)
by Bill from the UK
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Don't worry, her next album will sell even less, that's the way of the world. The important thing is that we all love and enjoy the music she's making, and I've not seen anyone yet say they don't think she gifted us a great album.
(Saturday 25 October 2025; 11:26)
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by Travis from USA
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I do because the "Lambs" never support or show Mariah the love, ever. I would say, in my opinion that "Here For It All" is better than "Caution", yet, it's now her worst selling album for this time period to date.
(Saturday 25 October 2025; 02:57)
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by Bill from the UK
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Tommy. It's always Tommy.
(Wednesday 22 October 2025; 17:54)
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by Edward from USA
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Who are we blaming now for Caution's demise? Please elaborate on it with some verifiable facts.
(Wednesday 22 October 2025; 16:29)
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The impossible (112,007)
by Bill from the UK
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Nice to see Memoirs get some love. My issue with the album was how Mariah handed the production of every track over to The Dream, so it very much stayed in the same gear, and the finger snaps can get a bit tiresome after a while. But lyrically it's great, her harmonies are gorgeous on songs like Ribbon and Candy Bling, and IWTKWLI was a fantastic cover. Languishing remains one of her best introspective ballads, so beautifully melodic and it sounds so fragile and delicate. In fact the one song that is quite jarring is Obsessed. The opener of Betcha Gon Know is fab, she really does a great job of painting the picture, very visual lyrics.
(Monday 20 October 2025; 18:42)
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I'm glad fans are waking up to Memoirs. I loved it from the first listen. It's turned out to be Mariah's most listened to album in the streaming era, excluding Merry Christmas of course. I really hope Mariah pull out all the stops to release Angel's Advocate, unlikely but not being able to stream Angels Cry remix is wrong.
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Wow (112,005)
by Bill from the UK
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Nothing personal, but I think the recent comments needed to be addressed as they were presented as facts when they absolutely were not. I do the same when others come on here and start making stuff up. You also tried a couple of posts ago to dress me down but it doesn't bother me, nor should you let what I post bother you. To be completely honest I enjoy your enthusiasm and energy when you're talking about Mariah.
And Bobby A and I are tight, I love him dearly and we've never had a bad word between us. He's one of the best fans I've ever come across. We've been friends for years.
So let's move on and talk about Mariah and her great new music she's delivered.
(Monday 20 October 2025; 16:37)
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by Lambi from USA
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Also what is it? I've awakened to your pattern of just being eager to correct me immediately like assuming Bobby A. and I did not know ODB was dead when we were simply putting together a hypothetical '96 Super Bowl guest list for Mariah. You were so eager to make me feel stupid, completely missing the context.
We're all just trying to have a blast talking about all things Mariah here.
(Monday 20 October 2025; 14:42)
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Wow (112,002)
by Bill from the UK
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Thank you sir for putting an end to that nonsense.
Back to Mariah, Here For It All continues to be played daily, something I haven't done since E=MC2 I'll have you know. The dreamy 70s vibe is not something I had on the cards when we were all speculating about how the album would be sonically presented, but I'm so glad it did. It adds a whole new dimension to her catalogue.
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Wow (112,001)
by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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I feel sorry for you that you're a conspiracy theorist. Maybe you should seek professional help. 
But this is a Mariah messageboard, not a platform for conspiracy theorists. So messages about conspiracies will not be posted anymore.
(Monday 20 October 2025; 10:37)
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Wow (111,986)
by Bill from the UK
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Lol, you keep your little tin foil hat on and keep believing Mariah is being kept alive by a record company if you want to. You're the one crashing out here darling with your wild theory you peddled. I just bought it all back to reality that nobody in Sony is trying to kill her, or indeed is the reason she still walks among us. What you're spewing is nonsense so a reprimand and reality check for you is warranted. Also to add here's a little tidbit for you for future reference:
Distribution of royalties
If there is a will: The songwriter can specify in their will who should receive their royalties. This person becomes the beneficiary of the royalties, which can be the entire amount or a specified portion.
If there is no will: The royalties are part of the deceased's estate and are distributed according to the state's laws of intestacy, which determine the legal heirs based on family relationships.
Contractual obligations: The original royalty contracts may have specific clauses that dictate how the rights are handled after death.
Neither you nor I know what the situation with AIWFCIY, nor any other Mariah song for that matter, actually is - which renders your insane theory of her being "kept alive" as a cash cow null and void.
Nothing but speculation based on no evidence whatsoever.
(Sunday 19 October 2025; 16:53)
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by Lambi from USA
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Just to reiterate.
L: Mariah pushes AIWFCIY to prove she's worth more alive than dead.
B: You're crazy. Makes no sense. Sony will make more money when she's gone because there's no need to pay her now.
L: Mariah still gets paid even if she's gone.
B: Whoa whoa, we don't know that, the royalties could go to her kids or elsewhere.
Royalties continue after death, which is a basic fact of how music publishing works. The income continues either way, that completely obliterates your first point about them not having to pay her.
Mariah isn't like MJ, he was fighting Sony in court, bought out other artists' catalogues, and had major battles over control on his last days. Mariah, on the other hand, minds her own business, merrily pushes her hits and isn't tangled in that kind of mess. I've made this point way earlier.
I've been having so much fun connecting with lambs here so please take a chill pill and tone it down with the unnecessary shade. Easy to remember, rhymes with your name.
(Sunday 19 October 2025; 12:11)
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by Bill from the UK
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I wasn't aware that you have seen Mariah's last will and testament, so thank you for the reprimand (it was very much warranted). We've no idea what the arrangements with the song, especially one that mammoth, would be. Royalties may very well go to Roc & Roe. It may very well be contractually she's obligated for a portion to go elsewhere. Just look at the mess with MJ's estate following his passing.
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by Lambi from USA
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Also just FYI, since you clearly don't understand how royalties work. After Mariah's death, her share of the royalties would go to her heirs, and not disappear. Instead of going to her directly, they would go to whoever inherits her rights (obviously will be Roc and Roe). Sony wouldn't automatically get more unless they somehow acquired her share like buying the rights from her estate. Please study before trying to have to have a "gotcha" moment.
(Saturday 18 October 2025; 16:51)
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by Bill from the UK
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So let me get this straight. Mariah is being "kept alive" by Sony due to the income generated by All I Want for Christmas Is You. I've heard it all now. Forgetting the fact of course that, should Mariah not be with us anymore, more of the income generated from that song would go to Sony as one of the chief benefactors no longer needs a pay out. Honestly, just listen to yourselves.
(Saturday 18 October 2025; 12:21)
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by Bill from the UK
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She's been blessed with 5 children since then so I don't think a return to the message board is top on her priority list haha. I will text her to say how fondly people have spoken of her though.
(Friday 17 October 2025; 19:04)
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by Bobby A from United States
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I don't remember that brutal period on the board. I do remember Maria though. Did she leave because of you know who? She should post again and say hello.
(Friday 17 October 2025; 14:17)
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Here For It All (111,944)
by Bill from the UK
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Hah, sometimes we speak about her time on the board and she's always been quite proud that she was the first person "run out of town" lol.
(Friday 17 October 2025; 11:53)
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by Edward from USA
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Yes, It was Maria from the UK Indeed. They "yass queens" from back then were ruthless and went for her jugular.
(Friday 17 October 2025; 03:48)
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