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About Bill from the UK: I love Mariah more than you do. London Daydream Tour Attendee.

The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,684) by Bill from the UK Good post. The issue I have is there is a whole generation now who only know her as this extravagant diva, who shuffles around like some aging silver screen actress in denial about her fading youth. They know her for a Christmas song that swings by every year, defrosting, and being a diva. They didn't see If It's Over on SNL. They didn't witness the Daydream tour (I attended London by the way). They didn't get swept up in Joy to the World at St John the Divine. They see her getting wheeled out every so often to lip sync, grumble about the bad lighting, have a pop at J.Lo, and then get carried away as the Butterfly outro plays. The bad now outweighs the good. (Tuesday 21 April 2026; 09:22) this is a reply to message 113,682

The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,682) by Jamie from UK This is the problem now, the negativity starts to over shadow the greatness. Most fans on here this past week have been honest and truthful about her current state and by some it's been seen as bashing. All we want for Mariah is for her to be remembered for how great she was, and to have the respect she so deserves. We are still fans, probably even more so than the yass queens because we truly care about Mariah and her legacy. I'm at the point now if she were to bow out and call it a day I'm cool with that. It doesn't mean I don't believe in her, I just don't want her to be ridiculed and ruin her legacy. I was listening to Dreamlover the other day whilst out on a walk, and I got a feeling of not being able to relate to that Mariah with the way she is at the moment, to me it's like she's lost her personality, and I can't match the two together. Whilst only a brief feeling it occurred to me that if I'm feeling like this as a super fan then the general public only see what they see now. To me there's always been two Mariah's pre and post breakdown that I've had difficulty matching up but at the moment she's neither of these which is even more difficult for me to process. (Monday 20 April 2026; 10:38)

Glitter 25th anniversary (113,668) by Bill from the UK Mariah should absolutely not attempt any sort of remake or "live studio" version of Lead the Way. That song is perfect and 2026 Mariah will catastrophically ruin it if she even attempts to go near it. If she attempts to sing that final run live it would probably kill her. (Sunday 19 April 2026; 09:17) this is a reply to message 113,665

Glitter 25th anniversary (113,665) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia Rerelease the album with bonus tracks: 1. Loverboy (Firecracker Original Version) 2. Out Here On My Own 3. Lilies Blues (Mariah was the one singing the child part so I'm sure she sang the whole song too) If her vocals are in good form, then do a live studio performance of Lead The Way or even Glitter Unplugged. We never got to see her perform full version of Never Too Far, Reflections, Didn't Mean To Turn You On and All My Life. So this is the perfect time to do it. (Sunday 19 April 2026; 04:13)

The Tiffany performances (113,651) by Bill from the UK Probably better if she lip syncs from now on. Wow. Never thought I'd see myself type that, but here we are. It was a dreadful performance. I continue to pray that she deals with whatever this debilitating disease is. And Mariah, please please tell us. (Saturday 18 April 2026; 11:43) this is a reply to message 113,642

The Tiffany performances (113,642) by Lighty from China Oh my gosh, Mariah has returned to singing Hero and WBT (without climax) live again. (Friday 17 April 2026; 18:28)

The real reason Mariah gets no respect (113,623) by Bill from the UK What's poignant about this post is that in her early Tommy years, Mariah craved the respect that Mary J Blige got. What was heartbreaking, was that she already had it. When I attended the London Daydream tour (not sure if I've ever mentioned it before), Sting, George Michael, and many other musicians were in attendance. She was revered for her singing, able to craft great pop songs that turned into hits, reinvented the remix genre, welded hip hop and pop together, and inspired a generation with her singing technique which is still mimicked to this day. Why she felt the need to descend from the beauty and elegance of Butterfly to the throwaway plastic Barbie look is beyond me. I believe that had she hung up her malfunctioning ear monitor after Butterfly and made no more albums, citing the loss of her voice as the reason why, she would have been inducted years ago. She should have bowed out gracefully to concentrate on songwriting and production the moment she realised she had to fake it to make it. (Thursday 16 April 2026; 21:57) this is a reply to message 113,619

The real reason Mariah gets no respect (113,619) by Randy from USA I called this when they first nominated her this go round. I don't know what bubble a lot of you live in but I'm with the general public non-Mariah fans all the time. They think she's a joke. The lighting. The guy holding her umbrella. Her good side. We are talking about the greatest recording artist that ever lived and yet she's so afraid of her voice that she uses any topic she can to avoid talking about singing of being asked to sing impromptu. I'm thrilled that the full Divas 98 section is making its way around when Aretha asked the divas to come out there with her and sing. Celine wasn't showing off. She was doing what she was asked to and could do. Mariah came out too and sounded subpar. Oh wait she has nodules, it was too hot, it was too cold, she didn't get enough sleep, the humidifier quit without two weeks notice. All of these topics Mariah holds dear makes her look like a joke. Mariah has delivered her best album in 16 years and it hurts me that she was out there promoting it and it still didn't do well. I saw that MusicCares tribute and I was heartbroken she had to sit through that. It shows how little the industry cares for her by the lack of planning and seriousness they put into that. Joan Crawford was one of the brightest stars of the 1920s 1930s and 1940s. She died alone and penniless because of her diva antics and eccentricities. People look as her as a joke and if you ask someone about her now all they know is No More Wire Hangers. Yall will attack me for this post and the comparison. Truth is, I want Mariah to win. But it is evident why they have passed her over three times for Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. They don't respect her. And who do I blame for that? Mariah. Because that 20 year old girl in the outtakes in The First Vision is loveable, humble and relatable. She would be in The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. (Thursday 16 April 2026; 14:31)

Prisoner (113,548) by Bill from the UK That is a concept of what the demo may have sounded like. A very short 16-second clip of the demo version of Prisoner was posted and that video was made based around that clip. (Sunday 5 April 2026; 10:22) this is a reply to message 113,542

Prisoner (113,542) by TJ from Norway Is this old news, or have this link been discussed before? It says no AI, and that it is from the demo. Well I'm not sure about that, but it sounds like something from the demo tape that I found on YouTube. I like the bass on this one. How about you? (Saturday 4 April 2026; 13:54)

Honey (113,543) by Bill from the UK So my story with Honey was that I used to get the magazine Record Collector to mail order rare Mariah items (this was pre-Internet remember, kids). All you really had back then was eBay and I was too young to have an account. Anyway, I remember a shop listed a handful of MC items in their ad and saw "Honey (US promo CD)" and I was like (ellipses), what is this? I thought they had mistyped "Hero" and my dad was saying he doubted that was the case. I ended up calling the store and they said it was her new single. Well, I ordered it there and then for £10 (half of my day's wage back then from my Saturday job). I then glued myself to the radio all weekend, and lo and behold, it got played and I loved it and managed to tape it on my stereo (though they faded the song about midway through and went to the news which was annoying). The CD arrived a few days later and I remember being floored by the sepia cover with her hair flying around. It had the album version, Bad Boy Remix and two versions of the "Smooth" remix (one with the intro and one without). I was so grateful it also had the lyrics too. I played it non-stop and I remember one of my cousins saying "have you seen the video yet?" and not, but I thought the cover would have been a shot from the video and it would have been something by similar. So I parked myself in front of the TV for hours switching between MTV and VH1 every 5 minutes. Eventually, it appeared and I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I thought it was such a blast, and there was such a buzz about it at the time. Everyone at school was talking about it, mainly because her flesh coloured swim suit made it look like she was exiting the pool wearing her birthday suit. Great times. (Saturday 4 April 2026; 15:14) this is a reply to message 113,536

Honey (113,536) by Jamie from UK I remember being in the office in one of my first jobs and my best friend calling me on the landline saying she'd just seen the new Mariah video "Honey" on MTV. She said the song is cool but she wasn't sure id like the video as it was very different. I saw it that evening. I remember being initially shocked at her in a bikini, I remember loving her speaking Spanish, but I loved the song. I thought this video is bold but it works, as it mixed a young Mariah with an edgy side. (Friday 3 April 2026; 11:10)

Honey (113,529) by Bill from the UK I had to stop by to say that I've been listening to Honey ad nauseam recently. The song is pure ear candy. The merging of the two samples and how well they come together, the cascading strings, the wall of sound vocals, Mariah's rasp in her voice. What a launchpad to the "New Mariah" it was. And that video. Iconic and epic. That opening verse as she meanders around that slinky beat is pure fire. What a song and what a moment it was. (Thursday 2 April 2026; 20:15)

Happy Birthday MC (113,472) by Bill from the UK Dear Mariah, Happy Birthday. God bless you always and thank you for all the joy you have given me. I'll be eternally grateful holding you so close to me. (Friday 27 March 2026; 10:37)

MTV Unplugged (113,422) by Bill from the UK Great post Jamie. I love Unplugged and play it nearly every day, no joke. Her voice is magical, and I think the arrangements and vocals for If It's Over, Someday and Make It Happen are better than the album versions, as great as they are. And then of course, I'll Be There. It's like the whole set was a crescendo to that fantastic moment-making performance. And I have wondered the same as you. I look at someone like Barbra Streisand, who I think as a rule doesn't do concerts. Just one off performances every so often. I get envious that, had Mariah adopted that approach, where would she be now vocally? Had she not married Tommy and instead just focused on creating soulful, genuine and sincere music, where would she be? Tommy wanted a Whitney for his label, Mariah felt that "by your side, I can conquer the world"; and conquer it she did. But at what cost? (Wednesday 18 March 2026; 00:09) this is a reply to message 113,415

MTV Unplugged (113,415) by Jamie from UK 33 years ago today Mariah recorded her MTV Unplugged session at the Kaufman Astoria Studios in New York. Can you imagine having gone to see this it would have been phenomenal. Her voice then was sensational and she was in my eyes then a class act. The way she held herself on that stage oozed soul, and a confidence that captivated the audience. While she says she wasn't confident at all at the time, her natural and grounded presence there was more powerful than anything she does now. There was no fanfares no dancers just raw talent, I sometimes wish she could have held onto this concept moving forward. Stayed in this genre as such and just been an artist that did rare small intimate gigs that made her more exclusive and sort after by the public. I'm speaking more from the artistry side of things, being more exclusive to me is somewhat more adhering to being out there filling arenas. Obviously it's hypothetical, but I was wondering would we be where we are now had she stuck to a more low key concept, where the music and the voice were front and center, with more quality adult contemporary songs, even the ones we've seen on HFIA, without the diva portrayal and hype. Would we have a better quality voice still? Would Mariah be less affected and still be herself. Would she be more connected and relatable? Whilst older would she still command the stage like she once did? Obviously this is me just putting a spin on things and in no way am I dissing her career path as I wouldn't still be here as a fan if I was. Would you like to have seen this path or something similar? (Monday 16 March 2026; 18:17)

90s and 2000s MC (113,359) by Bill from the UK The Dreamlover remix was astonishing and widely recognised outside of Mariah fandom as being one of the ultimate club mixes of the 90s. There really isn't anything better, and pioneered re-singing the vocals with that remix and never looked back. She came close with the Anytime You Need a Friend remix, featuring that sublime gospel opening and ending with Mariah scatting which is jaw droppingly good. One overlooked remix from the time is the Celebration Mix of Joy to the World. Completely re-sung, fantastic vocals, totally reworked melody etc. She really was the queen. (Friday 6 March 2026; 11:34) this is a reply to message 113,358

90s and 2000s MC (113,358) by Bobby A from United States I really miss the carefree vibrant 90s and 2000s MC. I hope she can get back to making beautiful ballads and fun pop songs again. I miss hearing MC sing from her heart and not thinking about being a diva. Most of all, I miss her So So Def remixes and David Morales resung vocals club songs. 90s and 2000s MC come back come back, please. Dreamlover comes to my mind as I write this post. (Friday 6 March 2026; 10:43)

HFIA breakdown (113,309) by Bill from the UK Were it not for The Roof being so damn good, Breakdown would be my favourite from Butterfly. Those two tracks are like the backbone of the album and such a positive step in the evolution of her sound back then. (Saturday 21 February 2026; 20:51) this is a reply to message 113,299

HFIA breakdown (113,299) by Stacey from USA "You called yesterday to basically say; That you care for me but that you're just not in love; Immediately I pretended to be feeling similarly; And led you to believe I was O.K; To just walk away from the one thing; That's unyielding and sacred to me." Oh heck ya, the song is about Jeter. Such a beautiful song. (Saturday 21 February 2026; 04:18)

Probably no deluxe (113,293) by Bill from the UK Which is a shame because, although the album completely tanked, it was her best effort in years. (Friday 20 February 2026; 20:13) this is a reply to message 113,289

Probably no deluxe (113,289) by Bobby A from United States I guess I will be the first to say again that the deluxe version is probably off the table. (Friday 20 February 2026; 05:00)

That rare flower that is Mariah's voice (113,285) by Bill from the UK I think that ability was lost years ago and it's been AI for a while to be perfectly honest. Other than screeching out "it's tiiiiime" once a year she hasn't sung a live whistle since 2009. (Thursday 19 February 2026; 18:00) this is a reply to message 113,284

That rare flower that is Mariah's voice (113,284) by John from USA I agree. I think regaining her chest and head tone vocal ranges and fixing the vocal damage far outweighs her retention of the whistle note range. Maybe she could go to the studio and record a whole barrage of whistle runs and background vocals and highlights she can use for later recordings, so that in case she loses her ability to do whistle notes, she can still put them in future albums. It would be an intense recovery post-surgery and she would have to swallow her pride and take speech training with a competent speech pathologist, and also singing/vocal training from real (not these celebrity vocal trainers that praise J-Lo to keep their job and say You did that Kween). (Thursday 19 February 2026; 16:51)

More youthful hairstyle please (113,222) by Bill from the UK Always Emotions era Mariah. Perfect, natural beauty but with an unassuming confidence behind. (Monday 9 February 2026; 18:00) this is a reply to message 113,219

More youthful hairstyle please (113,219) by Lee from UK I have a feeling that Mariah has purposefully been trying to look like a caricature of a "diva" for a while. This doll-like image seems to have taken over. I think this is how she wants to be remembered in the future. We all have that one image that comes to mind of famous figures like Marilyn Monroe. I think Mariah has been trying to curate a mind picture that we associate with her when people say "Mariah Carey". To be honest, it is clever as the only image I have of Whitney is her being a sweaty mess on stage. I have always thought that the flat hair on top really does Mariah no favours especially when paired with the extra long extensions; it really does age her. I would be interested to know what picture comes to your mind's eye when people say "Mariah Carey" and I wonder how different it would be to the casual listener's mental image. (Monday 9 February 2026; 12:44)

Olympic performance (113,207) by Bill from the UK Lol, nonsensical Yas Queen logic at play. You can either sing or you can't. The language you're singing in doesn't change your tone, agility, range, or how dynamic a singer you are. Plenty of singers can sing capably across different languages. And Mariah managed it in the past with her Spanish takes of Hero, My All and Open Arms. And on top of all that, it was lipped anyway. It was just a bad performance. One to add to the ever increasing list. Until she gets the help she so desperately needs, or explains what debilitating disease she is suffering from, this is all we will get from now on. (Sunday 8 February 2026; 12:09) this is a reply to message 113,196

Olympic performance (113,196) by Lee from USA Do you have a rehearsal video? People should cut the woman a break. She's singing in another language. If the other singers were singing in English, they wouldn't sound that great either. (Sunday 8 February 2026; 05:03)

Bill / Bobby (113,206) by Bill from the UK Performing two songs live since 1998 isn't the flex you might think it is pumpkin. (Sunday 8 February 2026; 12:03) this is a reply to message 113,197

Bill / Bobby (113,197) by Giovanni from USA Both of you are wrong. Mariah sang ABMB live in 2009 at iHeart radio, it's available on YouTube. She also sang WBT live in 2013 at GMA. The climax is up for debate but judging by her face at the end I would say it's live. She looked so mad and annoyed haha. Two very good live performances in case anyone hasn't seen them. (Sunday 8 February 2026; 06:33)

Mariah opens the ceremony (113,200) by Bill from the UK The sadness they are referring to is towards Mariah and what she has become. And please, enough with the stage fright nonsense. Watch Madison Square Garden and tell me that's someone who suffers from crippling stage fright. And if she developed crippling stage fright later on in life, don't perform at the damn Olympics. (Sunday 8 February 2026; 08:35) this is a reply to message 113,186

Mariah opens the ceremony (113,186) by MusicfanJ from Germany I believe only fans saw the sadness. Because we "know" her. Although I liked Mariah's appearance and the medley of the two songs, I "felt" the sadness too. Or is it just an imagination? And it was the pure stage fright? The critics from the press are pretty good, I've read only one that was not so nice. But most articles are very positive and nice. (Saturday 7 February 2026; 18:28)

Olympics performance (113,180) by Bill from the UK The proof is that she hasn't sung a song fully live since 1997. (Saturday 7 February 2026; 09:43) this is a reply to message 113,173

Olympic performance (113,173) by Lee from USA I'm sorry but I need more proof of fer lipping than "trust me, bro". I need an Ashley Simpson like video. I doubt anyone here are vocal experts. (Saturday 7 February 2026; 00:30)

Mariah opens the ceremony (113,171) by Bill from the UK Well, it was lipped. But so is every Olympic performance. So for once the ol' broad gets a pass. She's still absolutely dead behind the eyes though, and no amount of diamonds or feather boas can hide that. My poor Mariah. Please come back to us. (Friday 6 February 2026; 23:07) this is a reply to message 113,170

Mariah opens the ceremony (113,170) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I was so nervous during her performance I felt my heart beat faster, and I actually was a bit touched by the performance. She looked absolutely spectacular, she was standing in one spot, not much movement, but in this case it actually could be part of the "choreography", it suited the performance well. Her voice was velvety and smooth, and her whistle notes ware perfection. It was prerecorded, but the woman who sang the national anthem also used a prerecorded track, so no big deal. Mariah made the atmosphere ethereal, it was absolutely beautiful. (Friday 6 February 2026; 21:02)

Should I? (113,147) by Bill from the UK The drip feeding and strategic releases were so well done back in the day, and really down to a fine art in the 90s. I will never forget the rush that ran through me when I was on my bedroom floor doing my homework with the radio playing, and I'm tapping my pen to the beat of this song on the radio, and then right at the climax the DJ said, "What an amazing new song from Mariah Carey." I was a blur of motion as I dived to the stereo to hit record, to hell with whatever was on that blank tape that was already in there. I caught the last 20 seconds of the song and played it over and over and sat by the radio waiting for it to come on again. Boy was I ready and wow was I impressed. It was Fantasy of course. Like nothing she'd ever done before and I sounded so, so good on the airwaves. (Wednesday 4 February 2026; 15:59) this is a reply to message 113,143

Should I? (113,143) by Edward from USA I haven't watched any of the performances, but based on what I've read here, I'm not really motivated to. The celebrity era is over. People just don't care the same way anymore because celebrities are constantly in our faces. It used to be exciting when an artist dropped a project, promoted the hell out of it, and then disappeared once it ran its course. They gave us a reason to miss them. I remember when we knew Mariah was about to release an album two months in advance because a Maxi-Single would come out first, the anticipation was insane. Now everything is instantly available. Sure, it's convenient, but it kills the buzz and the sense of anticipation that made it all feel special. (Tuesday 3 February 2026; 17:10)

MTV Unplugged and Glitter significance (113,097) by Bill from the UK I agree Glitter was a humbling experience and the subdued Charmbracelet album mirrors that. But, the mammoth success of Emancipation quickly raised her ego and it ultimately morphed her into the "diva" persona she is now, a caricature of herself almost. It's probably a defence mechanism or mask to protect her should Glitter 2 ever happen, but she's not been "Mariah" as we all knew her since then. Which is a shame. (Wednesday 28 January 2026; 18:00) this is a reply to message 113,095

MTV Unplugged and Glitter significance (113,095) by Lainsky from Philippines While MTV Unplugged proved the critics wrong and helped Mariah Carey recognize her ability to connect with her fans, the Glitter era and its associated controversies significantly changed her as both a person and an artist. Primarily, it humbled her in profound ways, deepening her connection with her true fans. As an artist, this experience strengthened her and gave her sound a more mature quality while still reflecting her authentic persona. Both MTV Unplugged and the Glitter era hold their own significance; I believe these experiences were necessary for her growth into the person she is today. Regardless, I still love the Glitter album, which she has described as a soundtrack. It is my favorite next to Butterfly. MTV Unplugged is the live soundtrack I play whenever I feel nostalgic and miss her powerful voice in the early 90s. (Wednesday 28 January 2026; 04:43)

Possible The Rarities II songs (113,088) by Bill from the UK 100% that needs to find its way onto the album. I always hoped if she did an anniversary edition of the debut that she would put that duet on it. (Monday 26 January 2026; 12:57) this is a reply to message 113,085

Possible The Rarities II songs (113,085) by Lainsky from Philippines How about "We're Not Making Love Anymore" with Michael Bolton, Bobby A? I believe it is a nice duet she had, aside from the remake of "Endless Love". (Monday 26 January 2026; 08:05)

Reddit thread - save one MC song from each album (113,042) by Bill from the UK MC - Vision of Love Emotions - Til The End of Time MTV - I'll Be There MB - Anytime You Need a Friend Daydream - Fantasy Butterfly - The Roof #1s - I Still Believe Glitter - Lead the Way CB - The One TEOM - To the Floor EMC2 - Migrate (which should have been a single) MOAIA - Ribbon MIAM - Make It Look Good Rarities - Out Here On My Own Caution - Giving Me Life HFIA - Here for It All (Saturday 17 January 2026; 15:46) this is a reply to message 113,000

Reddit thread - save one MC song from each album (113,000) by Todd from Melbourne, Australia Saw this thread on reddit and it even made a playlist for it. You can save 1 MC song from each album. Mine would be: MC - Alone In Love Emotions - Til The End of Time MTV - Can't Let Go MB - Everything Fades Away Daydream - Fantasy Butterfly - Butterfly #1s - Sweetheart Glitter - Loverboy CB - Bringing on the Heartbreak TEOM - Stay the Night EMC2 - I'll Be Lovin U Long Time MOAIA - Betcha Gon Know MIAM - Camouflage Rarities - Out Here On My Own Caution - Giving Me Life HFIA - Nothing Is Impossible (Tuesday 13 January 2026; 23:10)

Channeled message (112,998) by Bill from the UK As Baby Jane said, you can lose everything else, but you can't lose your talent. Never count a songwriter out. Vocally we will never see another Emotions or Merry Christmas, but she still delivered a tremendous collection of songs with both Caution and Here For It All. (Tuesday 13 January 2026; 20:27) this is a reply to message 112,991

Channeled message (112,991) by Stacey from USA The thing I've always admired about MC's songwriting is her ability to put into words all the crazy emotions I am feeling. The other day I listened to HFIA in my car. Nothing is Impossible started to play. I listened to this song more intently than I had before. What a masterpiece. Sure her voice isn't what it use to be, but listening to NII sung twice at the end with the piano ending the song, I marvel at her talent still. I can only imagine the look of personal satisfaction once that song was finished. HFIA is an absolute gem. Here is hoping for a few more moments to show how amazing that album is. (Tuesday 13 January 2026; 15:55)

Celine was out of line (112,957) by Bill from the UK It was 28 years ago petal. Let it go. (Thursday 8 January 2026; 20:10) this is a reply to message 112,955

Celine was out of line (112,955) by Nikki from usa It's amazing how many people forget facts. Mariah was right to call her out, she'd been pulling that crap all night. There's a reason Celine got a 3 year SNL skit about her. Her behavior was atrocious. This was about divas coming together, not the Celine show. Celine sang over Carole King twice while they were going down the rows. They had rehearsed this, Celine knew that wasn't her place. She kept singing Carole's part for her. Then, Aretha goes down the line and Celine jumped out at the end. Again, out of turn. Then, she has the audacity to compete with Aretha and try to get Aretha to answer her in Aretha's own song. Celine carried on this competition so long, Aretha had to bypass her and finish solo. Even then, Celine tried to have the last belt of Aretha's song that night. Celine was unbelievably rude. Mariah should've called her out and I'm glad Mariah's not afraid to stick up for what's right. Mariah should defend herself and give clapback when necessary. I don't approve telling women they should be doormats. (Thursday 8 January 2026; 10:12)

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