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Reddit thread - save one MC song from each album (113,042) by Bill from the UK
MC - Vision of Love
Emotions - Til The End of Time
MTV - I'll Be There
MB - Anytime You Need a Friend
Daydream - Fantasy
Butterfly - The Roof
#1s - I Still Believe
Glitter - Lead the Way
CB - The One
TEOM - To the Floor
EMC2 - Migrate (which should have been a single)
MOAIA - Ribbon
MIAM - Make It Look Good
Rarities - Out Here On My Own
Caution - Giving Me Life
HFIA - Here for It All
(Saturday 17 January 2026; 15:46)
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Channeled message (112,998) by Bill from the UK
As Baby Jane said, you can lose everything else, but you can't lose your talent. Never count a songwriter out. Vocally we will never see another Emotions or Merry Christmas, but she still delivered a tremendous collection of songs with both Caution and Here For It All.
(Tuesday 13 January 2026; 20:27)
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Celine was out of line (112,957) by Bill from the UK
It was 28 years ago petal. Let it go.
(Thursday 8 January 2026; 20:10)
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Great news (112,928) by Bill from the UK
Congrats, in your new job please beg Mariah to release I Lose Control from the debut sessions. I know she hates it but it is pop perfection.
(Monday 5 January 2026; 14:34)
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My Prayer (112,911) by Bill from the UK
Make sure you check out the anniversary edition of Music Box if you haven't. It has a longer, better version of "All I Live For" from The Rarities and another vaulted up track called "Workin' Hard" that she did with C&C Music Factory (who did the dance tracks on Emotions and Music Box).
(Sunday 4 January 2026; 18:49)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,880) by Bill from the UK
Who's this J.Lo person you all keep talking about?
(Friday 2 January 2026; 15:34)
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Nah (112,870) by Bill from the UK
It's weird because I also watched DL on its original air date (and recorded to video the undubbed original version - where Aretha's performance of A Rose Is Still A Rose is not cut and Carole's mic isn't muted during Natural Woman). I remember feeling there was something "off" with Mariah's voice, I put it down to tiredness at the time, but it was more raspy and gritty than ever. The touched up DVD/CD version sounds a lot better but the actual vocals on the night seemed like every note was a struggle and effort, which was never the case previously.

And as for the finale with Celine. All I remember is being annoyed that Aretha walked over to Mariah, put her arm around her, brought her to the stage, and *invited Mariah to sing with her* and Mariah said "Jesus" three times then stepped back. Obviously Mariah knew she couldn't compete and after a night of singing in a relatively bad form, probably couldn't handle it. I don't buy this whole "I was respecting the queen" line she spews out every time it's mentioned.

I also think Celine was gracious in her behaviour, as Aretha was clearly asking the singers to "help her lift it" and none of them did. Céline saw Aretha originally picked Mariah, who shrank back, and only after seeing Mariah not do anything did she step in to not leave Aretha hanging. She was the only one capable that night, vocally speaking, of matching Aretha's energy and power. We need to be real and face facts. This whole "Celine was disrespectful" narrative has got to end. She was doing what she was paid to do that night and what Aretha was asking one of the singers to do.
(Friday 2 January 2026; 10:42)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,825) by Bill from the UK
Mariah's voice is a bit too nuanced to deliver a movie song in my view. Celine's voice is perfect for theme tunes because it remains in the same vocal tone constantly but crescendos when it needs to. Same for Whitney to a degree. Mariah's voice has so many facets and intricacies and layers to it that I don't think it would work. The closest she came to that style was probably Hero.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 23:41)
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Happy New Year (112,786) by Bill from the UK
Happy New Year to you all, and hope you all enjoyed your Christmas. Thank you Eric for running such a great site and board, it's not taken for granted how much time and effort this must take. Especially when you step in to calm us all down lol.
(Sunday 28 December 2025; 12:38)
Olympics (112,785) by Bill from the UK
Nothing Is Impossible would be a great track to sing for the Olympics. I hope she gets on stage and gives a graceful and elegant rendition of that song. Please, no hits medley and don’t merge it with Hero. Just sing a new song that fits the theme perfectly. One of the best Olympic songs in my memory was Tina Arena singing The Flame at the 2000 Australian Summer Olympics. Then they closed them with Kylie Minogue. Two great Australian icons.
(Sunday 28 December 2025; 12:37)
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NII (112,758) by Bill from the UK
Aren't you a teacher Bobby A? You could start something huge haha.
(Wednesday 24 December 2025; 12:38)
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Bruno Mars (112,752) by Bill from the UK
I wish Mariah would just do a blasted duet with Bruno so it can flop and then we move on and suggest someone else lol. Given the vibe of HFIA, she'd better suit a pairing with Maxwell and do something like his Urban Hang Suite album.
(Tuesday 23 December 2025; 18:29)
(Rare unseen) Butterfly (Live in Honolulu, Butterfly tour) (112,734) by Bill from the UK
The Butterfly single had a lacklustre reception in the territories where it was released, so I don't think it would have reached number one on the Billboard Hot 100. It's a beautiful song, but it's better as the album's theme. Breakdown on the other hand was absolutely robbed of its chance. I'm not sure it would have topped the charts but it certainly should have been given the chance to shoot its shot, and expose more people to it. Songs like Breakdown and The Roof were the backbone of that album.
(Monday 22 December 2025; 21:22)
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Diamond certification for Merry Christmas (112,714) by Bill from the UK
All the more reason for MC to re-release the debut as a deluxe, with the demo versions (which she always proclaimed to be better) as a bonus disc. I can't wait for my Christmas break from work as I always book out one day to spend with the debut album. I play that, the singles and remixes, The Live Debut EP, and watch The First Vision and a home made DVD of live performances from the era.
(Tuesday 16 December 2025; 16:49)
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The demo tape (112,710) by Bill from the UK
I will always say that Ben Margulies was the best writing partner she ever had, hands down. Original, varied, unique creations with interesting arrangements. Every song sounded completely different to the other, and like nothing else before them. Walter who.
(Tuesday 16 December 2025; 10:08)
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The demo tape (112,702) by Bill from the UK
Yes and no. So, Mariah had her original demo tape (the one Tommy got his hands on at the party), that she put together pre-fame. For the longest time, the songs contained on it were Alone In Love, All In Your Mind, Someday, Vanishing and Do You Ever Wonder. That was according to "Her Story". This tape however seems to have another song (unreleased). That may well be Hypnotized, or another song entirely.

When Mariah was signed to CBS (as it was back then), the process of putting an album together involves the artist producing several songs in demo format. These are presented to the executives who then "green light" the selection to go into recording/production, or go back to be revised and changed, or the direction changed etc.

It may be that the demo Mariah referenced was the beta version of what would end up being her debut album. I guess we won't really ever know for certain. It just drives me mad that there are things like this out there that will likely forever remain a mystery.
(Monday 15 December 2025; 21:05)
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The demo tape (112,694) by Bill from the UK
Yes I just read more on the auction site and it clearly says it can’t be redistributed or sold etc. in any way. What a shame. Well, I hope whoever got it enjoys it for many years.
(Monday 15 December 2025; 11:12)
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The demo tape (112,691) by Bill from the UK
So Mariah's demo tape sold at auction for $54,050. A little out of my price range. I hope Mariah won the bid and will release it, or whoever did win it will digitise it for the world to enjoy. It had 5 songs that ended up on the debut plus 2 unheard ones (one of which I assume was Do You Ever Wonder which was mentioned in "Her Story" by Chris Nickson).
(Monday 15 December 2025; 07:13)
Sugar Sweet (112,669) by Bill from the UK
Sugar Sweet is dead pumpkin. Let's move on.
(Saturday 13 December 2025; 11:57)
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Article: Mariah Carey's grunge album release date revealed (112,657) by Bill from the UK
Interesting development. If this is true, I'm looking forward to hearing this and seeing it released with Mariah's 1995 vocals. What a treat that would be. A delayed anniversary present for Daydream.
(Friday 12 December 2025; 14:30)
Would you rather? (112,607) by Bill from the UK
What I don't understand is how parents are fine to let their young daughters listen to her swear and speak in an especially vulgar way in so many of her songs. With the internet there's no escaping it, but children should not be desensitised to language that foul.
(Saturday 6 December 2025; 11:37)
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Discography (112,597) by Bill from the UK
I believe it's retired/on an indefinite hiatus. Mariah stopped releasing physical singles across multiple regions a long time ago, and the only interesting physical item she's put out in recent memory is the AIWFCIY anniversary singles (where the OG black and white cover was released in full over saturated colour), and the Here We Go Around Again cassette. Everything else stinks.
(Thursday 4 December 2025; 20:30)
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My Love (112,579) by Bill from the UK
Lead the Way was the only hold over from Butterfly, and that - thankfully - found its way onto Glitter.
(Tuesday 2 December 2025; 07:02)
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Muni Long (112,557) by Bill from the UK
Am I the only one here who has no idea who or what Muni Long is?
(Sunday 30 November 2025; 12:18)
A little life update (112,458) by Bill from the UK
Congratulations Mimi L, what lovely news.
(Thursday 20 November 2025; 23:09)
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