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Re: Outtake vocals (81,326) (81,329) by Andrew from UK I'm confused. Is "Master Recording" Mariah's pressed tracks only or does it include other vocals that were laid doen which were never ofdered for public sale or performance? Essentially, who owns all the stuff she didn't put onto an album such as the unreleased vocals popping up recently? (Saturday 10 March 2018; 22:15)

Re: Outtake vocals (81,319) (81,323) by Andrew from UK Does owning a catalogue mean you would also own the unused vocals or just the copyrighted material? I have no idea. (Saturday 10 March 2018; 11:54)

Re: Outtake vocals (81,309) (81,310) by Andrew from UK That "ooh yeah" is so short but just magical Mariah. It throws me back to being young, being enraptured (there's a Mariah word if ever there was one). I used to wonder, when I was young, why other people bothered making music if someone else's voice and melodies were so perfect. Then Jagged Little Pill came out and I started getting spots and Alanis-angsty with how much other people suck lol. As for who is leaking it, well, who owns the rights to the Sony recordings now... (Friday 9 March 2018; 13:26)

Re: Outtake vocals (81,300) (81,304) by Andrew from UK The "ooh yeah" at 0:37 and the "sin and error pining" at 1:08 is Mariah at perfection. I have repeated the "ooh yeah" about 50 times so far. (Friday 9 March 2018; 01:49)

Re: #marchforwhat? (81,294) (81,295) by Andrew from UK When I rise to power, anyone who tweets to someone who is dead or joins a hastag movement without aforethought will be first against the wall. And every single country would have to pick a Mariah song as their national anthem. But I would nominate Belgium to get "I Dont", les Pays Bas to get "Infuhmuzz" and the United States to get "Infinity". Because the Americans doing the end high note at the Superbowl would be totes amaze. Kneel or stand, that ain't coming out good. And the Olympics would be a Mariah fest. The United Kingdom can have "The Art of Letting Go". For shits and giggles. (Thursday 8 March 2018; 15:21)

Re: #marchforwhat? (81,291) (81,292) by Andrew from UK Never never listen to anybody, Eddie, when they try ti discourage you. They do that. Belieeeeeeve me. (Thursday 8 March 2018; 06:49)

Re: #marchforwhat? (81,264) (81,275) by Andrew from UK Actually, Hero is for "You and you and you and you. And you and you and you and you. You you you, you you." Get it right. (Wednesday 7 March 2018; 07:13)

Re: #marchforwhat? (81,269) (81,274) by Andrew from UK My point was that these hashtag movements are a bandwagon on which people briefly jump and they do not really look at actual problems and often only blanket a superficial and sometimes inaccurate answer over them. Look at Make Poverty History over a decade ago. What happened to that? Every celebrity came out to be identified with it, including Mariah. Has anybody given a shit since? Time's Up infers that all women suffer because of all men: if you are a man you are a sexual predator, or a potential one, and, if successful, only achieved said success at the expense of a woman. Maybe in some or many cases. But the stars supporting it are the ones who prospered from it in silence and now feel the need to lecture everybody with every platform they have. BLM has a similar simplistic view of things. Next we will march on Washington because yet more children were hosed down in a frenzy of bullets while at school. Stars send bandwagon tweets about it but it is practically forgotten now. There will be another school shooting in a couple of weeks. Rinse and repeat. These hashtag, populist movements are, I believe, oddly self-serving, simplistic and dull as [censored]. What they do is serve to manipulate people in their homes into believing a certain thing about a cause without really debating fairly and openly the issues and go as far as to suggest that if you're not with them and the alleged victims, you are, or are potentially, one of the aggressors and/or of bad character. And I like Mariah Carey because of her music. Frankly I couldn't give a shite what political love-in she has joined this week. Nor Meryl Streep, nor anyone else. If somebody on here or elsewhere were to change my mind about this then amen. I can see an argument somewhere for shows of solidarity and love - "love" always being a worthy cause. As long as my account is here I will likely leave my opinion. I do not have a constant need to be witty, I probably just stand out in a pool of blandness. It is for that blandness reason I have asked Eric to delete my account and, thus far, he has not. (Wednesday 7 March 2018; 07:08)

Re: #marchforwhat? (81,260) (81,261) by Andrew from UK Cool. Please delete my account and all posts and I will stop posting. Cheers. (Tuesday 6 March 2018; 00:07)

#marchforwhat? (81,258) by Andrew from UK In a land where no social change ever seems to truly come about, has the United States just become a land of hashtag-ionable movements? What nonsense. (Monday 5 March 2018; 21:54)

Re: Hero rendition (81,249) (81,254) by Andrew from UK How amazing is that? Still doesn't beat Languishing or Close My Eyes. (Monday 5 March 2018; 11:37)

Re: Don't Explain (Billie Holiday cover) (81,250) (81,253) by Andrew from UK Again I don't see what is professonal or quality about this. It is not the standard of performance she would once out on. This jokey mumbling and awkward movements coupled with quick bursts of "Mariah's doing something and I dont know something something something with a little something something" followed by a long "ho" followed by fluttery eye sheepish smile may be funny to some fans but it is not vocal entertsinment as far as I am concerned. But hey let me not "hate". Just do not get what anyone sees in this. Sometimes with Mariah now it feels like the singing is secondary. Like its an annoyance she just wants to get out of the way. Kinda like you lot with me (Monday 5 March 2018; 11:36)

Re: Go to Mimi on your contacts and press delete (81,234) (81,241) by Andrew from UK William. Your concerns have been addressed. How lucky you are to have such a patronising oracle at your disposal. Seriously, anonymous simple thought idiot, you probably don't want to mess with people of intellect on this board with your childish sentences. Truth always outs. Even if it hurts, it leads to a better understanding. (Saturday 3 March 2018; 14:18)

Re: Go to Mimi on your contacts and press delete (81,234) (81,240) by Andrew from UK Go go Gadget Warrior fingers. (Saturday 3 March 2018; 14:03)

Re: It's oh so quiet (81,233) (81,239) by Andrew from UK What a nice simple statement and sentiment. Cool. (Saturday 3 March 2018; 14:02)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,211) (81,212) by Andrew from UK This is "singing"? No, it isn't. It's Mariah doing one or two lines and avoiding singing a song with the usual redirection and bluster, mumbling to herself, nervously trying to look attractive and make jokes. Tell me people's eyes didn't roll into the back of their heads when she held the microphone towards Mayweather and said, "We know you can sing." Tell me people's collective thought was not, "Yes, Mariah, but can you?" I do not mean to be facetious, whilst admittedly sounding so, but it is a perfectly valid point raised. When does Mariah actually sing? When was the last time she had a microphone in a non-controlled environment and let loose? Most singers with a microphone and an audience will sing a song for just the entertainment and fun of it. Mariah won't. And from her usual reactions it does seem to look like Mariah can't. I thought singers liked to sing? (Thursday 1 March 2018; 10:01)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,200) (81,208) by Andrew from UK Not sure I understand "her confidence" being gone. Her voice is gone, you mean. "Control every aspect" means lip sync, no? Mariah Carey is seemingly a singer who no longer sings because she can not. Watching her try to bluster her way out of stuff is cringe. I actually think Jamie Foxx knows she won't do it, judging from the expressions, and he is taking the piss out of her and having fun at her expense. Has Mariah become the desperate washed up lush at the party? It's sad to watch. (Wednesday 28 February 2018; 21:08)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,197) (81,199) by Andrew from UK Nope, William, you're perfectly right. She, quite apparently, does her usual thing of trying desperately to avoid singing live when requested to with protest and bluster. Propoganda machine is out again. (Wednesday 28 February 2018; 00:39)

Re: Golden Cannon and Roc & Roe (81,186) (81,196) by Andrew from UK Cultural appropriation? (Tuesday 27 February 2018; 20:31)

Re: The A, B, 90s albums and The Disappearance of Mimi (81,175) (81,190) by Andrew from UK You can't split with us. (Tuesday 27 February 2018; 16:26)

Re: Smoke and mirrors (81,174) (81,181) by Andrew from UK I think Mariah's mental health has been deteriorating for a long time. Take her frolicking on the beach with Tanaka, wearing that ring, the I Don't soft core porn, the flashing in her dressing gown, the Honey frozen performance, the bizarre film of her running and ranting through her apartment, and so on and so on. It is clear that she lost the plot quite some time ago. Calling her misunderstood is one eay of dealing with it but it doesn't really address what most people I think are thinking: she is completely detached from reality (to put it mildly). Anyway, a shout out to your Old Vic Anglo-reference and use of the word "bloody" haha. Bloody brilliant, mate. (Tuesday 27 February 2018; 09:40)

Re: The A, B, 90s albums and The Disappearance of Mimi (81,169) (81,172) by Andrew from UK Hah. O William. I admit that Mariah's lyrics have become more vapid as her sound has become equally as vapid. But I am not sure Madonna can be beaten on the shit lyrics stake. Listen to Die Another Day, and you'll wish for that day to arrive pretty quickly. However, I remember TEOM was out the same time as Confessions on a Dancefloor. And thinking Mariah could have done Confessions. It would have been a bold move to start doing something else. But alas, if she had we would never have had Triumphant, Infinity, I Don't, and other priceless gems. (Monday 26 February 2018; 21:14)

Re: Smoke and mirrors (81,164) (81,167) by Andrew from UK Buddy, I understand your point but you could also appreciate that if Mariah did not carry herself the way she did, people would not be so eager to tear her down. The public turned away from somebody who themselves turned to extreme vanity, somebody for whom global attention for their talent is not enough unless her tits were also being looked at, somebody who essentially turned herself into a characature. Of course the public like to tear her down moreso than other artists for she made herself into the butt of a joke. If you saw somebody in the street who clearly loved themselves, acted aloof and thought themselves special, you'd piss yourself laughing if they fell into a puddle of dirty water. Mariah having to heavily rely on lip-sync and dubbing after the way she carried, and still carries herself, is her puddle of dirty water. (Monday 26 February 2018; 17:05)

Re: The A, B, 90s albums and The Disappearance of Mimi (81,151) (81,166) by Andrew from UK In fact, you completely missed Jagged Little Pill which was groundbreaking and perhaps defined a generation. (Monday 26 February 2018; 16:37)

Re: The A, B, 90s albums and The Disappearance of Mimi (81,151) (81,162) by Andrew from UK I will come to Atlanta just to correct your list of best 90's albums. Ray of Light is superior to all other 90's female artists records in terms of concept and execution. Plus it's not half as depressing as some of the other ones. It even escapes Madonna's oft excruciating lyrics. For shits and giggles, some examples: "We can drink some wine, burgundy is fine, let's drink the bottle every drop" and the ever impressive "I drive my Mini Cooper and I'm feelin' super duper, you can tell me I'm a trooper." For lyrical artistry Mariah doesn't really have competition. However, there's something to be said for Madonna's ability to turn a phrase. (Monday 26 February 2018; 14:19)

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