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Celine in Vegas (49,066) by jaker20 from US
Her voice went completely downhill after her Vegas residency. And her voice was in a much better state then than MC now. My only concern right now is MC's fragile voice at the moment. Once you sign that dotted line those sharks in Vegas will squeeze every ounce of you. It is more grueling then touring actually. It's pretty much goodbye pop music career. I still think MC has a few more great albums and singles left, but a Vegas residency would be her saying bye bye to her voice, the charts and pop music. Vegas is residency is 50 to 70 shows per year. And I've not really heard a one year residency. That's more or less 2 to 3 years. Look at what happened to Celine. And her voice isn't even in worse shape as MC now. I can only imagine what it will do to her already fragile voice.
You know why for some reason you notice a certain artist disappears from pop music landscape? From radio, music videos, and tv and everything else? That's because they're raking the dollars in Vegas. They have no time to concentrate on a good album and singles and all that stuff. Once they sign that dotted Vegas line, they will be slaving away for Vegas sharks for many years. Unless you travel to Vegas, you simply won't hear anything from her except on Youtube. No new music and album for a couple of years, and if she does, it'll be a lazy uninspired album. Forget about her voice getting shut after 50 to 70 shows per year. Her body and mind will be shut. Let's face it, MC is doing this to forget Nick. I would rather her be busy and focused with song writing and recording again. Sorry, but Vegas is not only for has-been, but for has-been who admit they are one. It's so weird that even Madonna won't sign a billion dollar contract she was offered a few years ago for a Vegas residency, when her strip club act is more fitting there. Yet her is MC needing it to get through her issues.
(Friday 9 January 2015; 17:26)
Vegas would be bad for MC (49,027) by jaker20 from US
A few shows is probably ok. But a "residency" will end what is remaining of her voice. MC's voice started deteriorating when she started touring. And Vegas residency is even worse with even more demanding schedule. I think it's going to be a mix or live and lip and that will tarnish both her reputation and ticket sales. I think Vegas is more suited to performers, those who dance, have huge backup dancers and transforms the stage into a strip club. Like Madonna, Britney or JLo. But if you're a vocalist that will end your voice. Look what happened to Celine after her Vegas stint. Don't get me wrong, I will probably most likely be there and watch a show. Vegas isn't very far from me. But given the state of her voice, I would rather her continue writing and find her next hit song, then play smaller venues in less demanding schedules. I think she's still capable of a couple of hit albums and songs.
(Thursday 8 January 2015; 0:49)
MC just needs the right single and image (48,869) by jaker20 from US
It's not as simple as giving her A-game. It's something we can't easily figure out. Cher was 52 when she had the greatest year/album/single of her career and I think MC is a much more well-rounded talent than Cher. Madonna was 54 when she scored another top 10 two years ago. MC was hardly in her A-game during TEOM yet come on, let's face it, she lipped her way through that era. Yet that's one of her banner years. Why? Because the songs just simply rock. Right time, right place. One of the most perfect blends of R&B/Pop/HipHop/Soul ever. When I first heard WTB I knew it was gonna be massive. It's always about the song. Cher didn't know Believe was going to be massive, and when it did she run with it. There's some formula in pop music (and art in general) that cannot be easily be manufactured, especailly for someone who's been in the game for so long. I've been hard on MC too these last few year, but I honestly think she's getting more inspired now than the last few years. I honestly think she got stiffed by mommy-hood and Nick. She was simply not into it anymore and more about the family. That's all good for her family, but all bad for her career and fans waiting for her to get inspired again. But watching these concerts I think she's finally getting her groove back in ways I've not seen since TEOM. She just need that one spark, that special song to get it started. I still think she's gonna surprise us one more and then she'll run with it.
(Thursday 1 January 2015; 2:34)
Re: Big Boy / Nick (48,814) by jaker20 from US
I've said it when they got married, I said it when MC had a baby, and I'll say it again now. Nick Cannon is a user and took advantage of Mariah from the start. The Big Boy interview simply exposed what he really is about. Why put blame on interviewers like Big Boy or Howard Stern? Trash is their job and they know trash when they see one. That's like going to a strip club and blaming the stripper for the guy who slipped money on her panty. Even though I think they were already about separated during that time, I think this is what Nick really is. I can never in my life imagine any of my relatives talking like that to their wives. Ever. It was like Nick's public humiliation of MC. It was repulsive and disgusting anyway you cut it and I don't think MC and Nick should reconcile for that reason alone. Sure, I can't judge them, but if MC can stand such repugnant person then I guess she is worse. But I don't see them getting together again and rightfully so. I always thought MC is a class act and don't deserve to be with such who is both a user and a loser. Oh, also MC has always told Nick to watch his mouth when he's on interviews. Which means he really is like that in real life. That is MC practically saying "you can humiliate me, but not in public". Can you imagine being married to an immature loser like that? She's endured enough, time to move on.
(Monday 29 December 2014; 2:54)
Re: R-E-S-P-E-C-T (48,561) by jaker20 from US
Those are all going points. But my only problem there is your last sentence. I don't know if she should be herself, that "she needs herself truly shown". Because the last time we saw that was in AI and I didn't like what I saw. I think she is naturally weird, quirky and, I'm going to get a lot of flack for this, she's full of herself. And how can she not, she's been praise to the high heavens with some of the greatest compliments a person can get including legendary status. That's gonna mess anyone up on the head, and seriously, I thinks he already is. She's kind, philantrophic, and giving. But she doesn't view herself as "one of us". MC is most successful in her career when her real self is hidden from us. When she's handled with an iron grip manager. It's a terrible choice to live, but works for her career. Well, I'm glad she chose to control her life and be happy with what she got. If she's got nothing to prove, I think she should go away, for awhile, before she completely ruin her legacy. Streisand did that decades ago and came back stronger than ever. MC should take long leave, regroup, come back big and hard, then go away again. Don't phone it in. Right now, it's just one embarrassment after another. Lambs might have forgotten this has been going on for years now.
(Wednesday 17 December 2014; 4:29)
Re: Andrew "Don't act unlikeable or unrelatable" (48,547) by jaker20 from US
You hit the nail on the head. I think after TEOM, MC went from cute diva to completely annoying diva. There was a period after that when I thought maybe it was an act, especially after her marriage to Nick. But we're seeing more and more evidence that her success really went into her mind. Now that is a part that only a psychiatrist can reverse and it's not like she'll visit one anytime soon. I thinks she kind of lost her way after her father died, that's when she went all over the place. TEOM was her last attempt and it was all phoned in afterwards. 18 no. 1s is a very tempting achievement and she went for it. Once Rihanna passes that, it will hit her like a ton of bricks. I'm not saying Rihanna is better than her. Not even in a million years. But better does not equate success, and in the music industry that thrives on records, publicities, and write ups (I mean how many more times do we need to hear "more no. 1 than any female...). So going back to my original point. MC came from a different time, a time when ego and divaness can be equated with talent and success and respect. But this is the "me" generation. If people can't relate to you, they mock you. MC is like Robert DeNiro now, super successful, legendary, but phones in every performance. It's kind of sad to watch actually. The decline went faster than I thought.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 20:55)
Re: Mariah, the queen of shade (48,545) by jaker20 from US
I can't watch that video anymore. Another reminder why the AI gig is one of the worst decisions MC made in her career. After that season, she lost her sense of mystery, because her quirks and insecurities became public. I know MC fans generally find that entertaining, but personally, the way she responded to Nikki there made her look insecure, embarrassing and unprofessional. It certainly doesn't make her endearing to the public the way she use to be. Nikki is just as terrible but why go there? Especially in front of the camera. I think MC's career slide lately and Nikki's "success" is partly a result of that period which I wish didn't happen. That video just makes me squirm on my seat, hoping I was one of the technicians and shut off MC's microphone.
(Tuesday 16 December 2014; 20:41)
"Queen of Christmas" (48,496) by jaker20 from US
It's both a blessing and a curse. Blessing because she has the Christmas season to look forward to every year. Curse because by end of the year she's gone. MC is existing the pop music phase and entering that standard phase of her career (for better or worse).
(Saturday 13 December 2014; 20:10)
MC should sing new songs in concerts, not old songs (47,510) by jaker20 from US
New songs as in (1) songs on her current album, (2) songs that she can actually sing. She can't sing songs from the 90s anymore. It's a different time, different vocal abilities. I would rather hear her sing songs she can sing, than lip old "hits". During the concerts, people seem to dig her new songs too. And the reason is because they know it's live. It's like as soon as WTB plays, you know full well the belt is going to be lipped. Besides, why should she sing oldies? I just makes her look old has-been. Look at Madonna. You won't see her sing old popular hits unless it's completely re-done, re-mixed. That's why her concerts are always full-house. I just couldn't stand her butcher her own songs. She can sing her new songs because they're recorded recently to fit her voice. She simply can't sing Vision Of Love anymore and give it justice. You'll just get either sub-part, lipped, semi-lipped, or heavily-backtracked.
(Monday 20 October 2014; 4:07)
Silence is class (46,419) by jaker20 from US
I'm surprised some of you consider MC's silence to be a problem. Who cares what people say? There's news every day and not all of them is true, and its constantly changing. She's this and that today, and then tomorrow, it's another. No one cares except tabloid consumers who take everything as factual. No one. MC's silence shows that her concern is not to be holy in the public eye, but her kids. One day, these kids will know their father was badmouthing their mom, and his father wrote a book about it to cash in. Like father, like son, both losers. This is almost unforgivable. No one wants their mother to be humiliated, no one, and especially not in public. Even if their mother isn't perfect. The situation is completely different from Motolla. She's got kids now to protect.
(Wednesday 27 August 2014; 5:03)
Now we know the kind MC married into (46,350) by jaker20 from US
Not only is Nick going to talk, it looks to me that his family is just like him. And most likely cash in on her failed married. Yeah, I'll be a broken record to say I never liked Nick, but here it is for the world to see why, unfolding right before our eyes. Guess what, MC is classy enough not to bring this family matter to the media and public. Unfortunately the other half isn't like her.
(Monday 25 August 2014; 2:21)
Well, Nick himself confirmed it on The Insider (46,332) by jaker20 from US
What other proof some of you guys want? They're not entitled to explain us the details in a tell-all interview on CNN or some sort. Nick himself said The Insider that they've been living apart for awhile now and there's trouble in paradise. That's straight from him and his big mouth and that should be more than enough. If the separation isn't true, he would be outright denying it or at least working on fixing his marriage right about now, and say something along those lines: "We're working things out." Making an official announcement of a divorce is tacky and tasteless especially when there's kids involved. If this is indeed true, I would rather this issue kind of just fade away without media hoopla, so the paps, media and fans would leave them alone until they are comfortable to talk. But I know that'll be difficult, because clearly Nick is itching to give us more information than we need.
(Sunday 24 August 2014; 6:38)
MC is strong, she can handle this without sweat (46,206) by jaker20 from US
Don't underestimate MC as if she's the weak kind. MC's been through worse than this, and at a time when she was younger and weaker. MC fell in love, like everyone else. But she's strong to pick herself up. MC is always better when she's down. She's can get through this. Easily. I just know it.
(Friday 22 August 2014; 1:10)
I never really liked Nick (46,205) by jaker20 from US
Truth be told, and I know this is all still fresh, but I never liked Nick. Starting from the fact that he took over MC's career and got way too involved. From being able to direct her videos, that just shows he's definitely had too much influence on her decisions. She was taken away by her love for him, and he took advance. Then MC helped him get that America's Got Talent hosting job. It's there for everyone to see, she's very instrumental in this, and I thought she's lost her mind. He was a nobody. But the last straw was him disrespecting her in interviews, and talking about everyone you slept with. They can separate if that is what he wants, but that's just uncalled for. I know some of you like this guy. But I'm not hiding my feelings for him. He's a user, and he got away with it.
(Friday 22 August 2014; 1:07)
E=MC2 is a great album (45,486) by jaker20 from US
But the promo is terrible, and it's partly due to the timing of the album with her marriage to Nick. As soon as Bye Bye dropped, her career also went bye bye. I'm not blaming Nick for her failed career since. I'm just stating facts.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 3:43)
Re: Randy (45,432) by jaker20 from US
Agreed. MC being fully in control isn't good for her. MC seems like the type of person who is more of a creative than a businessman. I think MC should stick to singing and songwriting and leave the rest to others who will guide her through it.
(Friday 18 July 2014; 0:03)
Billy from England (45,418) by jaker20 from US
I think MC is very insecure about her look. The non-stop photoshopping of her pictures, lack of appearances and promo support this. But in Hollywood and pop music industry who isn't? I think she doesn't want to be photographed, let alone shoot a video and not looking slim or the way she wants (whatever that size is). I thought the video for YM is so weird. She is wrapping herself with her hands like she doesn't want to be seen yet she is barely dressed, the quick cuts in the video, and the camera angles. They're all so weird and cheap. I hope MC does those cool videos again. And she doesn't have to be slim. MC needs to be more comfortable of who she is. She's so gorgeous. She doesn't have to be in a bikini all the time in her videos. How about just sitting in front of a piano and singing? She used to do that in her promos in the 90s. She doesn't need to be in a bikini to sing on a piano. Let alone roll atop it like her last YM performance, which is, again, so weird.
(Wednesday 16 July 2014; 1:11)
SESAC (45,405) by jaker20 from US
From what I'm reading so far, this organization is merely a royalties collection agency. They collect royalties when her songs are played publicly such as malls and stores. I think this covers internet too, but not sure. So MC is protecting her works and that's a great thing. But, not to be negative, I wonder what she'll be collecting now that few venues even play her songs anymore.
(Tuesday 15 July 2014; 16:10)
MC's dwindling fanbase is confused (45,350) by jaker20 from US
Daydream327, I posted something similar a few weeks back. MC's album sales shows that MC's fans have either abandoned her, or don't care much about her. 50k sales is JLo's level, and that says a lot. She has sunk to that level. The woman once considered one of the greatest in pop music, has become irrelevant in the music scene. Hey, no one can stay young forever. But does she has to go down in such an embarrassing manner destroying her legacy? Look at Barbra Streisand, when she's got a new album, fans are there (in fact the 70 year old did beat MC's Imperfect Angel in 2011 and debuted ahead). This means fans stuck with Barbra. MC does not know what she is losing. Look at the last 5 years: consecutive flop singles and albums, American Idol drama, lipping and or singing for dictators, embarrassingly photoshopped photos and album covers, delayed releases, abandoned promos, list goes on. Her image is so tarnished few people want to admit in public that they are fans. Just a few years ago, I am constantly in debates against Madonna fans. I was furiously defending MC. You know why? Because her place in the industry is in that level. Now, no one would even dare to compare her with Madonna because it would be an embarrassment to Madonna. At best, her career has sunk so low she is now a competition of JLo. "Yeah, MC's flop sales is ok, cause you know... look at JLo." JLo must be very happy. Personally, I didn't realize I would see this in my lifetime.
(Saturday 12 July 2014; 21:11)
Elena (45,152) by jaker20 from US
"Meteorite video with a 15 minutes of fame theme." Lol clever idea. A few months ago I posted that Katy is an MC hater. I always thought she's a bit of a hypocrite. She says she likes MC but shades in her interviews.
(Saturday 28 June 2014; 23:24)
Bill (45,117) by jaker20 from US
Well if that's Lee's point, then it's a terrible comparison. To be comparing MC to those who have passed is a little, yeah ott. I mean, that's not even close, it's slightly tasteless. MC is still with us making great music. We all agree with this. But MC is also with us wasting her talent. MC isn't gone, she's just lost imo. And I know there's many of us who think MC still have many years of great music ahead of her.
(Thursday 26 June 2014; 15:23)
Re: Acoustic album (45,111) by jaker20 from US
MC is capable of not only a full acoustic album, but a full acoustic concert. Something like MTV unplugged. She did AIWFCIY on Fallon live so effortlessly, and that's just a year and a half ago. Surely 5 songs like that, with interludes and breaks in between, can't be that difficult. I kept imagining her in an acoustic set and I"m there front row. I will pay top money for that. But this feels more and more like wishful thinking. In fact, she's hardly even promoting the album.
(Thursday 26 June 2014; 2:58)
Re: Image... to Lee (45,110) by jaker20 from US
Why are you obsessed with the topic involving child molestation, sex books and crack? No one brings up these topics, but you seem very interested in this topic. Also, how is MC's image even related to MC's kids getting shipped to her mothers? Did I say MC's career sunk after she met and married Nick? Yes. Did I say MC's career sunk because of Nick? No. Huge difference. If you had actually wanted a decent discussion, you probably would know that artists need to be inspired, and Nick is clearly not one of MC's artistic inspirations. Personal and private inspiration. Maybe. Artistic. No. I still don't know what that subject has to do with sex books, crack and child molestation though. Maybe you can enlighten us?
(Thursday 26 June 2014; 1:44)
Re: Mariah's attitude problem (45,084) by jaker20 from US
Mariah's image is definitely at its lowest point right now. Like someone here said, the voice is still there, the talent and music is still there. But the general public can't stand her. Her antics are grating. Her interviews are painful to watch. Her sensuality is past her prime. Her album/single covers are embarrassing. Where has the professional artist gone? I am a hardcore fan, and I care, otherwise, I won't even say these things. I will just let her sink and let it be. But if I think this, you can only imagine what others think of her. Sure, she's entitled to be herself. But as an artist, the general public should know her first and foremost as an artist. As a pro. As a true artist. Not as a Kardashian, unless that's the career she wants now. During the TEOM era, she was poised, composed, respectful, very professional and powerful looking. Someone you actually look up to. The last 5 years or so (dare I say after she got married to Bobby Brown, I mean Nick Cannon) she's turn into a lady/child, immature, unprofessional and talks over interviewers, lazy creativity, videos in bikinis and swimsuits, lipping constantly. Her decline is painful to watch.
(Tuesday 24 June 2014; 16:49)
Mariah don't know what to do (45,053) by jaker20 from US
MC tweeted that she didn't select the single cover (I don't believe this), and that she don't know what to do after the controversy of head swapping with the body. Everyone knows her size now. No need to pretend you're that slender, otherwise, then get on the gym and stop lying to yourself and to the world. If you don't want to go to the gym, then embrace your current size. So she tweeted, and asked suggestions. How about her sitting in front of the piano? How about a creative cover of her in a bus, looking normal like everyone else? How about her in proper clothes for ones, instead of a bikini or swimsuit? Like maybe riding a taxi cab wearing jeans and t-shirt, maybe a hat. She did this cover in one of her singles in Butterfly, and Say Something. That's just the tip of the iceberg, and I'm not even a designer.
(Monday 23 June 2014; 13:37)

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