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About Bill from the UK: I love Mariah more than you do. London Daydream Tour Attendee.

Re: Review of the memoir and The Rarities (96,310) (96,324) by Bill from the UK I always enjoy your articles, thank you very much for sharing. A great read. (Saturday 17 October 2020; 08:49)

Re: MC30 (96,282) (96,296) by Bill from the UK Mariah's just uploaded HD TOTP performances for Emotions, Without You, and Endless Love with Luther. Not sure if this is all she's doing this Friday but glad some of the TOTP gaps have been filled. (Friday 16 October 2020; 18:03)

Re: Migrate (96,280) (96,289) by Bill from the UK I trust your friend also said it should have been a single. (Friday 16 October 2020; 14:53)

Re: So what is next (96,281) (96,285) by Bill from the UK I do wonder when physical sales will be completely discarded and only streaming will count. They are so small for almost everybody. It makes sense; why on earth pay for something when it's free? The Rarities would only really interest fans though I think. Caution may have sold poorly, but it charted highly in the US. You can't judge a 2020 album released at the peak of streaming against, say, Music Box where buying a physical copy was the only way to hear all the songs. Don't be too disappointed Bobby A. (Friday 16 October 2020; 11:16)

Re: MC30 (96,282) (96,283) by Bill from the UK I know right? Got up early to nothing. Bah humbug. Although, MC did send a tweet out with the Chick album on her phone screen, indicating it has been digitised, do maybe that will come soon. She did say she was determined to find it. It's like £300 on Discogs now (previously it went for about £3). (Friday 16 October 2020; 10:28)

Re: End of the affair (96,260) (96,264) by Bill from the UK I'm not disputing any of what you detailed, and Mariah hasn't really either. You've made your mind up that she's a liar and re-editing history, and nothing I say will change that. But to respond to your points and why I respectfully disagree: - Glitter was never billed as a soundtrack Not having an "OST" suffix does not mean it can't constitute as a soundtrack when the tracks on the album were used in a movie. By definition, it's a soundtrack. It was, if anything, a concept album with a deliberate 80s feel written specifically for the movie. I personally do not class it as either a soundtrack, nor a "regular" album like Daydream or Music Box. More an accompaniment to the movie, or vice versa. - Loverboy sold a lot due to discounting Mariah called it the best selling single of the year, which it was. That's a fact. If her record company discounted it to encourage sales, that's good marketing and no crime was committed. - TRL was Mariah rushing her entrance and acting insane Agree this wasn't Mariah's proudest moment at all, but her point in the memoir was that everybody on the set, including Carson, knew she would be appearing, yet they made it seem like it was unknown and unplanned. - The plates didn't slip out of her hand We can't comment on this as neither of us were there. - She did not disappear to background singing because of Celine Dion Again we do not know why she did this as we were not in her head, so we only have her account of the evening to go by. - Tommy Mottola did not "help" launch her career - he launched the whole bloody thing That is true, he did indeed mastermind her career and used his influence to get her good press and on the right shows and in the studio with great producers. However, it was off the back of his belief in her unfathomable talent as a singer and a songwriter. Tommy did not sing, nor write, any of her recordings. He was just great at managing her career (to her artistic and personal detriment). Therefore it is fair to say he did "help", as without the talent to back it up, Mariah would simply be just another Tiffany. - She is not suddenly a "black woman who is also mixed race" - she is mixed race She is mixed race yes, but if she feels a stronger connection to her black ancestry over her white, who are we to say that is wrong? Reading the memoir, her dad was strict but clearly cared deeply for her. Her cousins on her father's side protected her. Her black friends in school defended her. Is it any wonder why she leaned closer to that part of her make up over the other, when it was her mother who neglected her, and the white girls that bullied her and traumatised her? (Thursday 15 October 2020; 21:44)

Re: On a lighter note (96,256) (96,257) by Bill from the UK Agree that the b sides fit well aside the unreleased tracks and glad they have a home. My heart does ache for There For Me though. (Thursday 15 October 2020; 16:17)

Re: End of the affair (96,253) (96,254) by Bill from the UK No my reply was intended for Andrew Deedre. (Thursday 15 October 2020; 15:30)

Re: End of the affair (96,245) (96,252) by Bill from the UK Hang on, I'm only saying there may be reasons as to why Mariah wasn't comfortable dancing, and gave two potentials - Tommy and her grandmother. I don't know anymore than you do as to why she didn't feel comfortable doing so that evening. For all we know it could have simply been her time of month. I love Mariah a lot and feel awful about all that she went through. I don't agree with everything she says and does, both professionally and personally, but it's not really constructive to call her experiences BS when they are her experiences. (Thursday 15 October 2020; 14:00)

Re: End of the affair (96,243) (96,244) by Bill from the UK Well I was always told if it is somebody's perception, then it is real to them. Therefore, if it is real to Mariah, then I believe that she believes it to be the truth. In the grand scheme of things what some geeky remix obsessed pedantic fuddy duddy like me thinks or believes doesn't really matter, it's not my story to tell. To your point around Mariah standing still during Testimony, yes, that happened and was noticeable. But I remember also reading a story where someone was talking about Mariah being at some party. She got up to go to the dance floor and Tommy sent her back to sit alone by herself as "Mariah shouldn't and doesn't dance". The memoir shows how much the actions of others have impacted Mariah hugely, even small things (your left side is better). For all we know it could have been residual insecurities around that comment that was made about her. And let's not forget the moment in her memoir where her grandmother forced her to dance to prove she was black. We don't really know the whole picture and what was racing through her mind that night, or what insecurities she was dealing with at the time. If her voice wasn't on point, did she really want to make it worse by awkwardly dancing and having that judged by everybody as well? The memoir has certainly given me new perspectives on all her actions, and my overarching response to most criticisms now is that we should cut her some slack and forgive her missteps and not be so hard on her. She's had it hard enough already and her fans should be the last people to contribute to that. I still will not hold back around awful musical choices like Why You Mad and Infinity, as she can do much better, but to judge her as a person and her actions, put simply, it's not my place. (Thursday 15 October 2020; 11:35)

Re: End of the affair (96,226) (96,231) by Bill from the UK I agree, I certainly wouldn't say this was Mariah actively lying to her fanbase, more that these experiences are incredibly personal, private, and difficult to talk about. My friends and family certainly don't know all my troubles, nor would I ever wish to burden them with them either. Given how harrowing and awful these experiences were, and that many involved her family, it is completely understandable to me why she wouldn't be talking about this publicly. But, for those of us familiar with her discography, she has been telling these stories, vicariously through her music. It was all there, in black and white, right before our eyes and ears. Now those songs are interwoven throughout the memoir to further illustrate that. Close My Eyes, Looking In, Petals, The Roof, Outside etc. (Wednesday 14 October 2020; 23:33)

Re: The Rarities album (96,224) (96,230) by Bill from the UK Yes I noticed that as well and it made my list in my Log of Inaccuracies which I will be sharing once I've done my second pass through of the memoir. (Wednesday 14 October 2020; 23:25)

Re: Next single from The Rarities (96,185) (96,193) by Bill from the UK (gasp) Well you'll have a lovely Christmas I'm sure, I think all the content is great, surprising how some of these tracks never made it onto the albums when other more questionable numbers did. And big congrats on your impending new arrival. (Wednesday 14 October 2020; 11:36)

Re: Deflated and angry (96,184) (96,192) by Bill from the UK Well said Jade, always so measured. If you go, I go. (Said in the same way Annie Wilkes says "if I die, you die" in Misery.) (Wednesday 14 October 2020; 11:32)

Re: End of the affair (96,170) (96,189) by Bill from the UK Prior to this message, you had nothing but praise for Mariah, the memoir, and its content. What changed? (Wednesday 14 October 2020; 09:17)

Re: The duets (96,175) (96,188) by Bill from the UK Yes, I was going to suggest off the back of the original post that a second disc of the released duets is also included. I'd also add the Tony Bennett one she did as well. I'd then go so far as to have a "live" third disc. I mean if you're going to do a Duets compilation, then let's go all out. This would include the following: 1. We're Not Making Love Anymore (Michael Bolton) 2. Chain of Fools (Aretha) 3. Hopelessly Devoted to You (Olivia Newton John) 4. Hero (Pavarotti) 5. Got to Be Real (Patti LaBelle) 6. When Christmas Comes (John Legend) 7. Supremes Medley (Diana Ross) 8. Whenever You Call (Brian McKnight) 9. Endless Love (Luther Vandross) 10. Natural Woman (with the Divas, included purely so we can spend a few more days arguing about Celine Dion) (Wednesday 14 October 2020; 09:10)

Hopes for Glitter EPs (96,163) by Bill from the UK Hi all. I am hoping Mariah treats us to some Glitter Remix Eps for MC30 - I'm unsure exactly if Mariah buying the rights for Glitter extended out to the remixes. Here's hoping it did, as there was a large serving for Loverboy, some of which (the club mixes) were particularly well done. Loverboy 1. Candy Version 2. Candy Version Instrumental* 3. Firecracker Version 4. Remix 5. Remix Instrumental* 6. MJ Cole Remix 7. MJ Cole Radio Edit 8. MJ Cole London Dub 9. MJ Cole Instrumental 10. Club of Love Remix 11. Club of Love Radio Edit 12. Dreamy Club of Love Radio Edit 13. Dub of Love Remix 14. Drums of Love 15. David Morales Radio Club Mix [P] 16. David Morales Alternative Radio Mix [P] Going by previous releases, it's debatable as to whether the Instrumentals for the Candy and Remix versions will be included on the EP. I'm also highly doubtful as to whether the two Morales promo radio mixes will appear either, which would be a bit of a let-down, as they are hard to track down. Never Too Far 1. Edit 2. Never Too Far / Hero Medley 3. Never Too Far / Hero Medley (Extended Mix) [P] 4. Never Too Far / Hero Medley (Radio Mix) [P] 5. Never Too Far / Hero Medley (Radio Mix with Intro) [P] 6. Never Too Far / Hero Medley (Al. B Rich Inspiration Mix - Radio Edit) [P] 7. Never Too Far / Hero Medley (Al. B Rich Inspiration Mix - X-tended Mix) [P] 8. Never Too Far / Hero Medley (Mike Rizzo Extended Club Recall Mix) [P] 9. Never Too Far / Hero Medley (Mike Rizzo Radio Recall Mix) [P] I'm really hopeful these all appear. The Medley is beautiful, and the remixes were great, especially the Rich Inspiration versions. They are hard to find as well so it would great to see them for streaming and purchase finally. Don't Stop 1. Radio Edit 2. Instrumental Reflections 1. Radio Edit 2. Instrumental Last Night a DJ Saved My Life 1. Radio Edit 3:26 [P] 2. Radio Edit 4:16 Unlikely these will come on an EP package. The Radio Edit for Don't Stop simply removes some of Mystikal's profanities, whereas the Radio Edit for Reflections tidies up the overlap between All My Life, Reflections and Last Night a DJ Saved My Life from the album (the tracks segue together). The Radio Edits for Last Night I'm sceptical about. The first edit was a rare promo-only mix unique to one territory, and the second slightly longer edit appeared on that strange Reflections CD from the Far East which still may or may not be a bootleg. Instrumentals have been hit and miss as to whether they are released, so - unless a joint EP is made for these tracks, doubt we will see any of them unfortunately. (Tuesday 13 October 2020; 16:45)

Article: Mariah opens up about New Year's Eve meltdown (96,161) by Bill from the UK This article is a mix up between the Glitter exhaustion episode and the NYE performance. How did this get published lol. (Tuesday 13 October 2020; 16:31)

Re: Trash (96,131) (96,143) by Bill from the UK I didn't know that, thank you for telling me. (Monday 12 October 2020; 23:12)

Re: Trash (96,135) (96,142) by Bill from the UK Falling Into You is the only Celine Dion song I listen to, and, in fact, love. There's just something about it. (Monday 12 October 2020; 23:12)

Re: Next single from The Rarities (96,117) (96,129) by Bill from the UK Mesmerized and Here We Go Around Again for the nostalgia. How about you Jade? (Monday 12 October 2020; 19:36)

Re: Trash (96,115) (96,124) by Bill from the UK It's clear from the memoir that Mariah does identify as predominantly black, but this has been evident for years in her musical leanings, her style, the company she keeps, and the way she speaks and conducts herself. What was interesting for me was that every reference to "black" was capitalised throughout the memoir, yet "white" wasn't. I'm not really sure yet how I feel about that. Ultimately, it is Mariah's perception, and is therefore real to her and is her truth from her perspective. (Monday 12 October 2020; 18:41)

Re: Trash (96,095) (96,101) by Bill from the UK No I agree, Mariah wouldn't be able to perform at the level Aretha was that night, I was more spinning it around and putting it in context for Mariah's fans perspectives, as to why some may find Celine's performance that night disrespectful. (Sunday 11 October 2020; 13:18)

Article: The Rarities liner notes (96,090) by Bill from the UK Wow I made the main page, thank you. (Sunday 11 October 2020; 00:07)

Re: Trash (96,070) (96,082) by Bill from the UK Yes Todd, absolutely. Imagine if there was a Divas show today, with Ariana, Taylor, Myley, Katy, and Mariah as the "senior" diva a la Ms. Franklin. Now imagine the horror that would be espoused if during the closing number of either Hero, All I Want for Christmas Is You, We Belong Together, or some other song hugely associated with Mariah, Ariana stepped up in Mariah's face and stole the climactic note and outsang her. Imagine if, say, Taylor held back and said later she thought Ariana was a bit disrespectful. We'd all agree with Taylor wouldn't we. Even if Katy Perry later said separately that it was a classy way to handle Mariah. We'd still be pissed. (Saturday 10 October 2020; 18:58)

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