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About jaker20 from US:
You Will Never Be MC
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Giselle L. (37,453)
by jaker20 from US
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I agree with you completely. The release pattern that she's been doing in the 90s which is uptempo followed by a ballad is super tired. I was here. I was here when E=MC2 was released. I keep saying, please no Bye Bye, don't release Bye Bye. But they went with it, and guess what, her career went into a nosedive. This morning I was jamming this what many refer to as MC's 19th no.1 song which ever was Migrate. It was the highest charting song on iTunes when the album was released, but they're so stuck in the past with creating the uptempo/ballad combo. I just hope MC learns from her mistakes. It has to be something fresh and cool, and then promote it. Who cares if she's 40. Duh, Cher had her biggest album/song ever well past her 50s, and even Madonna is beating her with her last no.1 album and top 10 single. If you're she's committed to it, then might as well take another long break and make more babies. There's nothing wrong with that anyway. Quit now while your legacy is still somewhat intact. It's embarrassing for her to release singles that no one buys or listens to. I know that's exaggeration, but how is the artist constantly promoted by her team as "most no.1s" but can't even hit hot 100? Don't do it. It makes the failure all the more obvious whenever they use that title.
(Wednesday 20 March 2013; 6:35)
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Re: most Nos.1 title to Natalie (37,437)
by jaker20 from US
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I think Brad's point is very very valid. A lot of people resent hearing that from the artist themselves. Let the records and facts speak for themselves. Billboard and other music writers bring this up whenever the discussion is there. But to bring that up on your own marketing is just too corny and self-centered. Besides at this point, MC should be concentrating on quality not quantity. And also, the record is for solo artist, there is still one to break and that is The Beatles. When MC hit no.1 with TMB to break Elvis, MC and her marketing used the title so extensively, and immediately after that, radio immediately completely abandoned her. Once she's broken The Beatles' record, then yes. But right now, they need to be stealthy about it in marketing MC. Look at Rihanna, she and her team does not brag about the fact that she's got most no.1 in the past 10 years, and this will be her key into breaking not only MC but also The Beatles, slowly and quietly. Her destination is not MC, but The Beatles. Brad's post makes a lot of sense. This is not the first time this subject has been brought up. Anyway, no point talking about this now, most posters here believe MC's best is over, she does not need anymore no.1s, so let's just leave it at that.
(Tuesday 19 March 2013; 12:13)
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Brad, I completely agree (37,431)
by jaker20 from US
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I think MC should drop the "all-time records" and "most no.1" in her marketing. It actually make her look old. Let the facts speak for themselves, not put it on the fact of everyone. Also, when she's on AI, she's not as natural. I want to see the Mariah we see on YouTube where's she's more fun and speaks her mind. Anyway Brad, our post is the kind of post that I hope to see more here, honest and constructive. I mean come on, everytime someone gives a suggestion they are labeled know-it-all. We care for MC, that's why we do this, at the end of the day we can't control her. But that doesn't mean we should not suggest. I believe lack of suggestion leads to apathy and call for action, which I think results of not caring that much either way what happens to her.
(Tuesday 19 March 2013; 6:41)
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Eric and Licia (37,430)
by jaker20 from US
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Not once did I say Nick was to blame for Almost Home. I never said that. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I am saying that Almost Home can be attributed to the failure of her management, who don't know what to do with her or how to market a song in today's age. My bringing up Nick was about her past failures, and it's not without basis. Nick has not done 3 or 4 videos for MC and they all failed to make any impact. How many more will he get involved into before she figures out there's work and there's personal life? I am by no means telling anybody or Mariah what to do. Of course I don't have all the answers to save the world. I am simply stating what is happening to MC's career, which is, as long as Nick is involved in her next promos, and she's with the same management, there's not a lot of hope. We learn from mistakes, right?
(Tuesday 19 March 2013; 6:36)
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Edward re: a little bit worried (37,418)
by jaker20 from US
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You should be worried. She's now have two consecutive massive flops, and this coming off the time when she's constantly visible on television. Triumphant also came out when she's in the media regarding Idol auditions, and I bet she released it to take advantage of the exposure. But that didn't work as well. There is a big problem. And the big problem is her management. This is the same I posted before, but instead of discussions I was attacked for being a know-it-all. Fact is, her musical career is on freefall. MC is surrounded by the wrong people. She needs to get out of her comfort zone and be with creative people, not Randy and her husband. Sorry, this is my opinion. Her husband has no resume nor talent to get involved in her career. Stay out of her office basically, like the rest of the people in the world. Sure she can do whatever she wants, I'm just stating my opinion, that every single time he gets involved, she flops. Every time. As for her management, they don't know what to do with her. They've not been able to update her image and her songs, and do not know how to work in the current music landscape. When I say music landscape, not just sales, because that time is over. There are many avenues too long to post here.
(Monday 18 March 2013; 6:40)
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Almost Home (37,400)
by jaker20 from US
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MC's management does not care about her, nor is she surrounded by artistic, inspired and creative people. She is surrounded by Randy and her husband, who unfortunately gets involved in her career way too much. Nick really doesn't have the resume or talent to be doing so. Oh by the way, Allmost Home is a great song. The song received great reviews and it fits right in to current pop radio. In fact, many of Rihanna's fans accuse the song of sounding like Diamonds. I don't think it does, but you get my point. What you are probably trying to deny is this, Triumphant, and Almost Home were supposed to be lead singles that never was, because they failed. But they were meant to be buzz songs. How many more will she release because you guys get it. She needs new management, she cannot manage herself. I know some of you are apathetic because there's feeling here that she is over, that times have changed, that she doesn't fit in. I disagree. A great song is a great song. Talent is talent. We learned that from Adelle. Mathew: it is very fair to compare JLo's success to MC's failed song. JLo did not perform the song until after the song was already taking off everywhere. Also, the fact that its a dance song ft. Pitbull does not guarantee the massive success it had. There's lots of ft. Pitbull songs and JLo also had a lot of dance songs that flopped. The song was a massive hit because her team shrewdly hyped and managed the song, and JLo smartly used her visibility on AI to her advantage. She was super likeable on the show, even though she does not even deserve to judge because of her lack of vocal skills. That alone, being able to change people's perspective on you, says alot. That's because she's with a very good team of people and management.
(Friday 15 March 2013; 9:22)
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Almost Home (37,377)
by jaker20 from US
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I guess my previous post was too strong so the moderator didn't post it. So I will tone it down a little just to get the message across, and I think this should be posted, so we can have a reality check right now, and as fans I think that is important. When you have a great song like Almost Home, featured on a massively successful movie, and in time when MC is visible in public in AI, and yet the song still didn't make any impact whatsoever, I think we as fans should all be worried that something is definitely very wrong. And I think MC should be worried as well. JLo managed to have a massive hit song by merely being on the show, yet MC was not able to convert her visibility into something similarly positive for her career. I do think her public image isn't very good right now. The public is simply not into her and her style, which seem old fashioned. MC has not been able to update her public persona. She is that woman with the big breasts on TV, not the great singer who makes great songs. You would be surprised how short kids' memories of the past is.
(Tuesday 12 March 2013; 8:34)
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No more negatives (37,311)
by jaker20 from US
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Sorry I was just venting. Anyway, let's just enjoy the music, because it's really a great song.
(Monday 25 February 2013; 15:10)
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Fans' apathy (37,302)
by jaker20 from US
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Edward, thanks for your kind message. My post might have been too harsh about MC fans being apathetic. But I'm only basing from previous posts that I have read here. It's very frustrating when MC creates a great song and two things happen, one the song is mismanaged by a bunch of clueless people who have no idea how to market her and her song, and two, the fans seem ok with it. You come here and read posters say "oh it's ok if it doesn't chart, it's not what it used to be, blah blah blah". What is the point of releasing a great song then? We used to go nuts whenever MC had a new song and we'll do anything and everything to support her. Madonna's fans got her a no.1 album last year and another top 10 hit. Where are MC's rabid fans gone? Some of you seriously are downers, and your lack of enthusiam, "oh it's ok if she doesn' chart" attitude is contagious. MC will probably read these posts and say, "you know know what, fans are right, they're happy, its a good song, nothing more to do about it, let it be". Well I am not happy. With all of MC's resources, money and influence, I want only the best and the very best to work with her. I want fans to go mad insane whenever she has a new song. And I want the whole world to know that she has a new song. Otherwise, don't make another song. Better not to put any effort than put 50% effort and destroy your legacy. I am really frustrated.
(Sunday 24 February 2013; 6:50)
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Enwar00 (37,301)
by jaker20 from US
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You can't just take my post like that out of context. I'm all for discussion and decent arguments. That sentence is meant to be taken from the artist's point of view, not the listener. MC is a pop artist, not a indie artist. She makes music with universal appeal that reaches and breaks many boundaries, not just geared towards a niche market.
(Sunday 24 February 2013; 6:35)
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Chart performance is a measure of success (37,290)
by jaker20 from US
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Is not the only measure, but it is a measure. Why do you think people here are wondering where MC's fans have gone? Isn't that a contradiction? Saying it's ok for her songs to not chart, and then say where her fans have gone? Her fans are only half here for her, they have become apathetic about her and her songs, so just like the posters here, they do not care if her songs chart, don't care if she's on the radio, or if the song succeeds. Wow, MC should really be concerned by fan's apathy. Well because her songs have flopped and they don't hear her anywhere, so many of them most likely don't even know she's got a new song. A good song that only you can enjoy means nothing. This is the keyword for MC's fans now: apathetic. They do not care one way or the other, as long as its a "good song". Well let me tell you, what is a good song when no one can hear it? Sting once said, any artists who only care about their art and not widespread success are hypocrites. It is sad, fans don't rally behind her anymore. MC needs new breed of fans. And did I just read someone just reprimand another fan for buying multiple copies of Almost Home? You actually get criticized for being a dedicated and enthusiastic fan. You know what fan is short for? It's suppossed to be short for fanatic. MC's lost them types of fans.
(Saturday 23 February 2013; 8:52)
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Almost Home drops out of top 100 after just a few days (37,280)
by jaker20 from US
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You guys do not believe me she is working with old people who know nothing about how to market and buzz on today's music. The video should already be released now. Why wait until the movie that is more than 2 weeks away from now? By then the song has already maybe dropped to no. 500 on iTunes. This is very stupid, sorry. Look at Rihanna's release pattern and all the current hot artists. Mariah is mismanaged, this is the fact. And you guys defend this? Some of you here are talking about marketing wait-and-see strategy as if it's 1992. It's now 2013, that formula does not work anymore. You should want only and nothing but the very best to work with Mariah, not Randy Jackson or all those so-called managers from the 90s who have no clue. Why do you think all her sons lately are flopping? It is because of these reasons. This is a great great song, but the only way to make it a success is to have the right people. Anyway, watch as the song drops further down. You don't even know how much the song is used in the movie and how well the movie will do. That's kind of hope-for-the-best marketing, not aggressive marketing that treat the song can stand on its own.
(Friday 22 February 2013; 15:36)
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A great song destined to fail (37,263)
by jaker20 from US
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Because they are not promoting it properly. It's already fallen to 81 on iTunes after peaking to a lowly 49 in one day. Mariah is working with a lot of old people who don't know anything about promoting a song in this age. No video release and by the time the movie is released, this song is long forgotten. Just bad release pattern. This is tragic, because this is a great song and probably one of her last songs that have a chance for success. From the massive Triumphant embarrassment, she can't afford another flop, but if she sticks with the same people to work with, this song will have the same destiny.
(Thursday 21 February 2013; 12:20)
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