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Yes, and more please (105,487)
by T from USA
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I love it. MC brings us back to the house mixes for the nostalgia. It's nice to hear her on a proper uptempo song. Her and Max Martin are a match made in heaven. So fresh but yet so classic sounding. Here voice is sounds great, and the overall vibe of the song is amazing. Hopefully we all do our part and stream this song, buy it and dare I say request it on radio. Get the word out that MC is back baby.
(Friday 16 February 2024; 15:15)
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MC always late to the party isn't just a metaphor (105,391)
by T from USA
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I'm hearing Beyonce is going to dive into jazz and gospel after country music. She already did house music. Mariah mentioned on one of her Twitter Spaces that she doesn't want to go into her back catalogue of dance music out of fear that people will say she's jumping on the bandwagon. Which is crazy because she's done it first. Once Beyonce hits with Jazz, Mariah will feel pressured to not do it. I've even heard that act III might be Rock n Roll, which would be cool but then we can also kiss Someone's Ugly Daughter goodbye. It's almost like Mariah takes too long and then others steal her ideas. But it's not really theft it's more that the others are working faster and harder. I hope Mariah doesn't feel limited to R&B because she's afraid to go outside the box. Wasn't being put into a box the problem she had with her career in the first place? Now MC call that other MC and get SUD out already.
(Monday 12 February 2024; 23:25)
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Mariah Carey signed with Range Media Music (105,306)
by T from USA
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According to this article Mariah Carey is signed with Melissa at Range Media in the music department. If you read the article you get all the details but basically they use Capitol Music Group for distribution of all physical and digital media and they use Virgin Music for all the marketing and commercial connections. Mariah is still followed by their Instagram page so I'm assuming nothing has changed in the last two years. This will probably be the company releasing her next album. I hope they use her well. My real wish is she would've signed with Columbia at Sony or return to Island Def Jam at Universal for the next album. A return to Universal would also allow her continue the MC30 stuff with them.
(Wednesday 7 February 2024; 15:07)
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Tacking on two Memoirs songs to MIAMTEC (105,189)
by T from USA
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Does anyone ever wonder what the purpose of putting the two songs from Memoirs (Betcha, Its a Wrap) on The Elusive Chanteuse deluxe edition? Was is it strictly because those two fit the theme of the album or was she actually going to put the two singles from the cancelled Angels Advocate project (UOMF, AC - which would've made more sense since they had music videos and some success), but then decided against that idea once Nicki Minaj became such a brat?
(Wednesday 31 January 2024; 01:53)
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Obsessed ft. 50 Cent (104,721)
by T from USA
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How cool would it have been if 50 Cent was the feature on Obsessed when it was released. It would've been her 19th #1 hit song for sure.
(Saturday 30 December 2023; 18:26)
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Merry Christmas II You 2010 reimagined (103,844)
by T from USA
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With all this duet talk I had a vision of what MCIIY could've been, instead of her trying to catch lighting in a bottle twice, she could've gone completely out of the box for her Christmas follow up and made it a duet album that would've lasted the test of time. Here's the reimagined track list in 2010:
1. Christmas Time Is In The Air Again (ft. Michael Buble) 2. O Little Town Of Bethlehem (ft. Celine Dion) 3. Oh Santa (ft. Destiny's Child) 4. The First Noel (ft. Whitney Houston) 5. When Christmas Comes (ft. John Legend) 6. Here Comes Santa Clause (ft. Snoop Dogg) 7. One Child (ft. The Clark Sisters) 8. O Come All Ye Faithful (ft. Patricia Carey) 9. Where Are You Christmas (ft. Faith Hill) 10. All I Want For Christmas Is You (ft. Justin Bieber)
(Saturday 21 October 2023; 22:13)
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The Einstein talk had me thinking (103,746)
by T from USA
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Lot's of people view E=MC2 has this light fun pop album compared to The Emancipation of Mimi. A fun summery record that you listen to to get into beach or party mode. So songs like Obsessed or Betcha, Hate U, It's a Wrap wouldn't work on it. But I never viewed it in such a light. To me it's one of her most revealing and dark album with bits of light popping up every other song. I mean, Side Effects, Thanks For Nothing, For The Record, Bye Bye and I Wish You Well are not what I would describe as lyrical joy. Einstein is a biting album and lots of people got bit. The cherry on the cake would've been if Eminem got his just desserts also with Obsessed being on the track list.
(Saturday 14 October 2023; 15:14)
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Questions for JD (103,745)
by T from USA
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After she fired him as manager he did have some questionable things to say about her as a professional. Eluding that someone on her level should show up every time like a game day athlete. Ready to go. Around that time a member of Boys II Men also made comments about Mariah's lack of professionalism when it came to her career. I actually believe after almost 25 years she was so over it by 2014 and unmotivated. I think she was subconsciously trying to self sabotage the career she built so that she could have a break. The last break she had was in 2001, and it was a forced break. The self sabotage continued after JD when she fell into the arms of Stella. and the New Years Eve performance was almost the end all for her. Luckily she got her head on straight and signed with Jay Z and got Caution out in a professional (and on time) manner and hit #1 with AIWFCIY. I honestly don't think there is anything left for her to do and that might be showing up as a lack of drive or motivation. One more album is all I'm hoping for but I don't even think that will ever happen.
(Saturday 14 October 2023; 15:08)
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Questions for JD (103,739)
by Bobby A from United States
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Just flipping through my Mariah book looking at all of the managers MC has had in 30 years. The most shocking manager era was when JD became her manager. After 10 years later, I have questions for JD. What happened between you and MC that caused your management deal with MC to end?. Did you have a different direction for MIAM after the Walmart TAOLG leak? Did you ever suggest to MC that she retire in 2013 after the commercial failure of MIAM? What is the music industry saying about MC's lack of vocal ability now? What is your favorite MC collaboration? Finally, why did you allow MC to record I Don't and Save The Day?
(Saturday 14 October 2023; 05:24)
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Caution is perfect (103,720)
by T from USA
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Caution is perfect just the way it is. I wouldn't change a thing in hindsight.
(Wednesday 11 October 2023; 20:58)
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2013 The Art Of Letting Go (103,719)
by T from USA
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I've always seen this record as an old school vibe album so obviously I would include Mesmerized, which was recorded in 2012. I would've also loved Up Out Of My Face on that album as it's a way of letting someone go. Imagine the duet with Nicki at that stage during American Idol? All in all I'd keep the album short and sweet but impactful. PS. I always pictured Betcha, Hate U, and It's a Wrap also perfect fits for it. Look at the story this album would tell about her relationship:
1. Betcha Gon' Know 2. Faded 3. Up Out My Face (ft. Nicki Minaj) 4. H.A.T.E.U. 5. Dedicated (ft. Nas) 6. Beautiful (ft. Miguel) 7. You're Mine 8. You Don't Know What To Do 9. Camouflage 10. Mesmerized 11. Cry 12. Meteorite 13. It's A Wrap (ft. Mary J Blige) 14. The Art Of Letting Go
PS. I still think Obsessed on Einstein would've been a game changer.
(Wednesday 11 October 2023; 20:56)
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Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,711)
by T from USA
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I guess you do make a point. But I actually think Obsessed, It's a Wrap do match the other juvenile lyrics of other songs on the album, maybe they could be joined by Up Out My Face and Standing O and that would've rounded out Einstein nicely. (UOMF actually references Harvard, it basically writes itself.) The autotune on those songs also would lend some continuity. I just think having TMB, Obsessed and IAW all on one album would make E=MC2 a streaming monster like Daydream.
(Wednesday 11 October 2023; 01:53)
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Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,708)
by Will from England
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I don't know, Obsessed was a last minute addition to MOAIA after Bagpipes was released and she wrote it in response specifically. I don't think that sonically, it makes sense for those 4 songs to be on E=MC2 because her voice had changed again by that point (it sounded fuller vs the songs on E), and they just don't flow well with the party atmosphere she had with that album. DFAU etc. worked well for TEOM because there was still a sonic theme going that she was after and they fit well with the rest of the album. Those four just don't go on E.
(Tuesday 10 October 2023; 22:43)
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Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,705)
by T from USA
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Well we don't really know when Mariah records but it is clear that she saves things for later dates and times. But I have a feeling it was done after she already worked with the Dream on TMB. I think probably early 2009. That's why I wonder if a re-release of Einstein might have been the better way to go (instead of recording a whole album and waiting until the Fall of 2009). Even if the original E=MC2's track list had Obsessed as track 7 to replace Love Story, and It's a Wrap as track 9 instead of Last Kiss, in my opinion it would've fit so well and been the greatest Mimi album ever. (Betcha and Hate U would fit better on the Elusive Chanteuse.)
(Tuesday 10 October 2023; 14:14)
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Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,704)
by Nick G from Germany
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You mean Obsessed was already recorded for E=MC2? Makes MOAIA even sadder.
(Tuesday 10 October 2023; 11:08)
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Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,699)
by T from USA
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We all know the tragic story of E=MC2's trajectory after the first single, the disappearance of Mimi and then the re-emergence in depression. In hindsight, with the lack of commercial success she's had since (except Christmas), one really can look back at the mistakes made like not releasing Migrate as the second single and think it was her last big change at commercial dominance. Would've a re-release like she did with TEOM made a big difference? Would it have sparked new life for the album? Imagine Obsessed was the fourth single from a repackaged album. I think I would've taken that over MOAIA.
1. Migrate (ft. T-Pain) 2. Touch My Body 3. Cruise Control (ft. Damian Marley) 4. I Stay In Love 5. Side Effects (ft. Young Jeezy) 6. I'm That Chick 7. Love Story 8. I'll Be Lovin You Long Time 9. Last Kiss 10. Thanks For Nothing 11. OOC 12. For The Record 13. Bye Bye 14. I Wish You Well
15. Obsessed 16. Betcha Gon' Know 17. H.A.T.E.U. 18. It's a Wrap
(Tuesday 10 October 2023; 01:34)
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Qatar wedding performance (103,698)
by T from USA
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No more tours. Just one more studio album is all I want for Christmas. And then just strictly focus on anniversary releases like Daydream30, Butterfly30, Rainbow30. Just keep cementing that legacy Mimi, like you've been doing. No need for live singing anymore. I wonder if Mariah secretly attempted the voice repair surgery with no success?
(Tuesday 10 October 2023; 01:23)
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Qatar wedding performance (103,697)
by Lee from USA
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Then how is she selling out MSG and getting paid for private concerts? Why does the media make a big fuss about her doing anything?
(Monday 9 October 2023; 21:28)
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MB30 just for the nostalgia (103,456)
by T from USA
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This anniversary is kind of bittersweet. It's a great time for the fans but it's also so sad. It harkens back to time and place in many of our lives where Mariah was at the top of the mountain, where her voice sounded like a literal angel and her beauty was natural and unmatched. Her latest Instagram post as an homage to Dreamlover was the hardest pill to swallow yet as it showed us a glimpse of what could've been with Mariah all these years. The absolute natural beauty. If only she was comfortable in her own skin, if only she didn't deal with mental health issues, if only her first husband wasn't such a control freak, if only she could've lived happily ever after. Maybe this picture would be what Mariah would've actually been like all these years instead of just a brief moment of dress up.
(Tuesday 12 September 2023; 14:10)
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Louise McNally (103,455)
by T from USA
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I wonder what ever happened to Mariah's manager who managed her after her split with Tommy, so basically from the Butterfly album on. It was reported that Mariah threw her out of a car before The Emancipation era. And there was no mention of her in her book either. Maybe she wasn't the most prolific manager but she did get her through Butterfly, Rainbow both successful. She stuck by her through Glitter and helped her rebound during Charmbracelet. I always am curious about the story there.
(Tuesday 12 September 2023; 13:57)
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Predictions (102,631)
by T from USA
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If I was to wager a guess, I'd say that she's fallen out of love with the business. Look Rihanna doesn't even release music anymore. Everything has changed. Mariah isn't just a business-woman, she's a business. And the best business for her going forward is Christmas. And only Christmas. When she signed with Epic it was because her friend LA Reid was heading the label. He was fired in 2017 and she still had to eventually get an album out as per contract. So she did one in less than a year. I do think she didn't see eye to eye with the new bosses there and something defiantly happened during the rollout of Caution. The Rarities was self released. The best thing that could've happened with returning to Sony was the 25th Anniversary of Merry Christmas and getting AIWFCIY to #1 and that job was done perfectly. As for Roc Nation? Anyone's guess is as good as mine. There was a report that she and Jay had a fight which she promptly rebutted. But sometimes with Mariah where there's smoke there's fire so maybe the whole rollout with Caution left a bad taste in her mouth. One thing we do know, since Glitter, we've learned that Mariah does not like to fail with an album. It's important to her to succeed. Unfortunately Caution underperformed so now she pretends like doesn't exist. It has joined Glitter, and she has distanced herself from anyone involved in the perceived failure. I agree that she needs to get back with musicians like Babyface who can inspire. And just create music. Do the thing she used to do before the pressure of fame was too much. On a side note, I do think it's always been about money for Mariah. Even in the beginning when she was all about getting a record deal, she shopped around many labels to get the best deal. She's always thought of the money, especially during 2001 with Virgin records and again in 2013 with American Idol. Right now there's no money in music, so my prediction is that we won't be hearing from her for a while.
(Tuesday 25 April 2023; 14:12)
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Predictions (102,629)
by Bobby A from United States
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So T, do you think MC's need for time and space can be contributed to how she characterizes record labels and high profile management companies as the corporate morgue? What happened between MC and Epic with the rollout of Caution? Did something go terribly wrong with trying to secure Cardi B for thr A No No remix? Why did she suddenly leave Roc Nation to sign with Range Media. Why is she now in 2023 without a record label? Someone pissed MC off and has caused this need for time and space. This need is unusual for a MC who would record a new record every two years. I know she has gotten older, but it just seems like someone has caused this downward turn in MC's career. She needs Babyface to come rescue her like he did Toni Braxton. I hope that she is happy and is just waiting for the right time for her third comeback.
(Tuesday 25 April 2023; 04:42)
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Predictions (102,628)
by T from USA
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No word on another Rarities. It would be nice but we don't even know if there are enough finished/polished songs to make up a whole album. I for one think Rarities albums are a great idea because there is no pressure for sales or any real expectations. It's strictly for the fans and keeps the lambily active until she does get the inspiration to record again. But then again, Mariah herself never said there would be a sequel and maybe it was a one off to coincide her book. Sort of a track listing to some of the songs she mentions in her memoir. If I could wish something into existence I would want a Remixes II and a Rarities II.
(Tuesday 25 April 2023; 00:41)
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Predictions (102,622)
by Tevin from USA
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Thanks T for the insight. Any word on a Rarities 2 or continuation of MC 30? Granted that means more work behind the scenes for Mariah, but she doesn't have to create new songs or a album since they would have already existed.
(Monday 24 April 2023; 15:06)
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Predictions (102,621)
by T from USA
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None of these predictions will happen. At least not this year. Her close friend and lamb correspondent already confirmed on Twitter that no SUD and no Butterfly Lounge this year. She also noted that Mariah is a human being who needs time and space and cannot just snap her fingers and produce an album. So she urged patience. I only bring this bad news so to temper expectations. There are no new Mariah songs this years.
(Monday 24 April 2023; 14:33)
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Predictions (102,619)
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I have a feeling that we will get some interesting projects released by Mariah this year.
I've a hunch that she has been in the studio with Beyonce. My intuition is that Act II may be an inspirational album, maybe with covers of classics in the culture. If so maybe AYNAF (alternatively this will appear on TBL). Unless Mariah hopped on a remix of Plastic Off The Sofa or Virgo's Groove.
And I heard a rumour that Mariah has something coming out with SZA. Did she hop on Blind maybe? Or is this another song for the Lounge?
SUD is coming this year too. I hope she includes some features on this project with like Willow Smith or someone else that has a fresh alternative style.
And maybe we will see Mariah and Ariana together on Honey this year. I hope The Butterfly Lounge is the project that carries us into the Rarities 2 and jazz album. This next couple of years will hold several "eras" I hope.
(Monday 24 April 2023; 01:21)
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Legacy (102,609)
by T from USA
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I think there are two things at play. One, is her voice is not there to record a whole album without being bashed that it sounds too chipmunky with the technology used to prop it up. The second is that for whatever reason (maybe reason number one) is that no label wants to sign her for the money she wants. Some of the biggest career missteps after TEOM that could have helped preserve her superstar status would've been releasing Migrate, and also promoting MOAIA to its full potential. So many cancelled business dealings like VH1 Storytellers etc during that era. Her Idol experience and the album that she was clearly forced to make by Island/Def Jam and Barry Weiss at the time were a mess. Very unprofessional. Just by correcting those three little things would've totally changed the game for her right now. Record Labels are very weary right now about signing people to big money. Mariah isn't the most reliable or bankable artist if it's not AIWFCIY related. As a fan I would love one more full length album. I don't think we will see that until at least 2025 to be honest. Writing has always been her cathartic release, I guess she got that when she wrote the book. Now there is no need at the moment. The artist that used to write because she loved it has turned more into a business women who writes when the money is there. If anything, can't she do her fans one more thing and at least finish the MC30 that she started by putting HateU remix and others on streaming?
(Saturday 22 April 2023; 14:39)
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Legacy (102,605)
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One of the things that bother me with the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens is the over celebration of AIWFCIY. A few years ago the older Stans were on here arguing what MC's signature song was. We tentatively settled on Hero. But now it's clear what she's going to be known for if this yearly record keeps happening. I think that the noise around that song fades away some of the most amazing singer songwriter compositions ever recorded. Mariah Carey is more than some relic you drag out of the closet and dust off on November 1st. Another damaging thing that the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens celebrate is her whistle register. Yes it is lovely. But that register doesn't make a great singer. I remember in the promotion for Emotions she said she didn't use it more on the track because she didn't want it to become a gimmick. She laid off it quite a bit on Music Box and Daydream but when the voice changed around #1s it was on full display for Rainbow. I think it's a crutch used to prove she can still sing. But if you have lost your belting register, are you gonna whistle your next albums? I just worry that Mariah's career is in a bleak spot and people are shining spotlights on things that narrow her legacy to a whistling Christmas act. Thoughts?
(Saturday 22 April 2023; 03:34)
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Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,597)
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I think at one point Mariah questioned if she should release these niche projects (like the duets, inspirational Butterfly Lounge) or if she should start working on an actual new commercial studio album. Maybe she changed gears and is starting to write MC16. Or maybe like many speculate she has lost her voice and is not doing anything music wise anymore. I actually wouldn't mind if she ended on the high that was Caution. Too bad more people didn't buy/stream it. Then again, if they didn't buy her in 2018 what makes us think the would in 2023? If Caution is the last full album at least I'm grateful that it was quality.
(Friday 21 April 2023; 02:48)
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Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,595)
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I do agree that MC is going to lose fans if she doesn't release an album soon, however, I don't know if releasing a studio album is profitable for her anymore. I'm noticing that Cardi B hasn't released her second album. Many other acts wait a long time between albums. We got spoiled by the 90s. Maybe MC could give as an EP or a maxi-single with different versions like I Still Believe or My All/Stay Awhile. It would have to be a killer single though not an Infinity or I Don't.
(Thursday 20 April 2023; 23:43)
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No new album in 2023 (102,589)
by T from USA
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It's been all but confirmed by some Mariah insiders on Twitter that she does not have the rumored projects coming this year that everyone thought. Not even the Butterfly Lounge. That leaves us waiting until next year, however seeing how 2024 is the 30th Anniversary of "Merry Christmas" I'm sure that will be the priority next year.
(Thursday 20 April 2023; 00:02)
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Article: Mariah Carey delays The Art Of Letting Go release (102,509)
by T from USA
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Not sure how delaying it added to the experience of the album. In hindsight maybe a July 2013 would've been the best idea.
(Friday 7 April 2023; 23:15)
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Article: Track list revealed for Mariah's new album (102,508)
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This is interesting and quite accurate except a few points. I wonder who got this information and do some of those songs actually exist?
(Friday 7 April 2023; 23:13)
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Will the real MC please stand up (102,424)
by T from USA
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I think both Mariah and MC are the real Ms. Carey. Obviously she was more focused at the beginning of her career but she also had something to prove. She was also handled in a certain way. I remember at the beginning she was only allowed to go on talk shows to sing, not talk. Because I think the machine was hiding the fact that she has anxiety but also were scared of her immature qualities to shine through. Her eternally 12 self. Now it's all her all the time. She lost the sweet innocent quality but that will happen after being jaded for 33 years now. Prisoner and Up Out My Face are not that different. The co-producer certainly has an impact on each song. Also, with the changes in her voice she had to compensate, it was also around the time that popular music was Britney, Christina, Spice Girls and Madonna. So a change was needed. She briefly returned to the old Mariah with Charmbracelet in 2002 but didn't have the voice on the record to back it up. The writing was top notch however. After the emancipation there was no going back. I think there are many sides to Mariah and all of them are real for her.
(Thursday 30 March 2023; 14:04)
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