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2000-2010 (107,740) by T from USA In Mariah's second decade she had two #1 albums, five additional top 10 albums, four #1 hit songs. Sold well over 15 million albums and singles with sales plus streaming. That's not a bad second decade, more than some artists did in that span of ten years. And since then she's added a bunch more top 10 albums and even an additional #1. I think her career is just fine. New album "Sweet Sixteen" coming next year. (Tuesday 3 December 2024; 16:04)

Mine Again (107,491) by T from USA Mine Again would've been the perfect song to have done at the 50th Anniversary of the AMA's. It's so retro and encapsulates the return of the voice perfectly. It represents TEOM in my opinion. Just picture the first few lines in front of that live audience. That old school sound would've reminded everyone just who Mimi is and would've set her up nicely for her next era with Anderson Paak. Oh well. (Thursday 10 October 2024; 05:00)

Mariah Carey's signature song (107,345) by T from USA After 34 years I think it's safe to rate her songs in terms of mass appeal. We know that Vision of Love started a singing trend like no other, and Obsessed is MC's hit of the new generation. Here is the top 10, then top 5 and ultimately the top 3 Mariah songs in her discography. Top 10: Vision Of Love Emotions Hero Without You Fantasy One Sweet Day Always Be My Baby We Belong Together Obsessed All I Want For Christmas Is You Top 5: Emotions Hero Fantasy Always Be My Baby All I Want For Christmas Is You Top 3: Hero Fantasy All I Want For Christmas Is You Signature song: All I Want For Christmas Is You (Friday 13 September 2024; 18:53)

Told y'all (107,095) by T from USA After she released the Yes, And remix I told you that she wasn't going to release a new album this year but instead concentrate on festivals, one off concerts and Vegas until it's time for Christmas. Everyone tried to insult me and said I was being negative when I was only telling the truth. I think some of you need to reassess your relationship with the truth and being able to accept it. It's too bad most lambs did nothing to support her two musical remix recordings this year to hold us over because Mariah won't be releasing a full album of new material until 2026. That's just the truth. Take it or leave it. (Saturday 3 August 2024; 21:36)

Photoshoot (105,962) by T from USA I agree. (Tuesday 12 March 2024; 18:12) this is a reply to message 105,958

Photoshoot (105,958) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter If she wanted to bet her return on Ariana's single it should have been something they worked with on an original song that would be released with a proper single treatment. Releasing YAR a good while after fans had already rallied to take the song to #1 once and then after it free fell wasn't a smart move. To top it off they didn't even promote it after the first day. We can't just expect something to blow up when the effort wasn't put in by the artists to make it blow up. It also wasn't a groundbreaking song that people would lose their mind over it. (Tuesday 12 March 2024; 03:19)

Caution and Eternal Sunshine (105,961) by T from USA I love your posts Robert. Always enjoy reading. (Tuesday 12 March 2024; 18:11) this is a reply to message 105,955

Caution and Eternal Sunshine (105,955) by Robert-Anthony from United States It's like Ariana said to Max Martin, here is my story, will you help me tell it. He helped her create a cohesive brilliant album. I am going to listen to an album 2-3 times in player before I give my review. Eternal Sunshine is the type of album to listen to with your boo driving through the city on a Saturday evening. I just didn't get it the first time especially with Yes And? being the first single. (Monday 11 March 2024; 22:08)

Photoshoot (105,954) by T from USA SUD is short for Someone's Ugly Daughter. The secret indie rock album Mariah recorded in 1995. (Monday 11 March 2024; 21:27) this is a reply to message 105,937

Photoshoot (105,937) by dicky kw from indonesia What is SUD? (Sunday 10 March 2024; 15:40)

If Made For Me was MC's (105,953) by T from USA Made For Me would've been great on Caution. I would've taken that over With You as the first single. (Monday 11 March 2024; 21:26) this is a reply to message 105,943

If Made For Me was MC's (105,943) by Robert-Anthony from United States Made For Me should have been for MC. Muni Long said in this interview that Made For Me was a demo that she had been sitting on for years before JD and BMC added their touch. Wow, just think if she gave it to MC back in 2018 to replace With You. MC wouldn't had such a dry Caution era. The AI version is definitely what MC would have sounded like. (Sunday 10 March 2024; 20:28)

Photoshoot (105,952) by T from USA Big business cares about the numbers. In order for them to invest in a new Mariah album she has to prove that it's worth it. We are talking millions of dollars on the line. Plain and simple. Had Yes, And remix reached top 10 with a Mariah credit and kept having success for the next few months a label would be willing to take the chance that Mariah may produce more success. That's why I was hoping beyond hope that it would blow up. (Monday 11 March 2024; 21:25) this is a reply to message 105,940

Photoshoot (105,940) by Tevin from USA Who cares about the numbers, it's time to hear new music or reimagined music from Mariah. (Sunday 10 March 2024; 17:50)

Caution and Eternal Sunshine (105,951) by T from USA I believe it's a control issue. Mariah wants to be 100% involved in every aspect. Especially how her voice is engineered. With Caution and Memoirs Of An Imperfect Angel she gave up a big portion of that to others and the results were a more cohesive album that to this day have the best review scores. Sometimes I think because of what happened with her debut album, the lack of control and her pushing the fact that she's a writer/producer so hard it hinders her in time it takes to release something. I'm not going to doubt her abilities as she has proven time and again that she is the secret sauce to all of her music, but, it is clear Ariana gave Max Martin the entire runway to do his job. And, yes did it wonderfully. (Monday 11 March 2024; 21:21) this is a reply to message 105,947

Caution and Eternal Sunshine (105,947) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I remember Mariah expressed her dissatisfaction with being pushed to release "Caution" with a quick turnaround. Ariana said in her interviews that Eternal Sunshine took her 3 months to complete. She also kind of did it while shooting for a major movie. Eternal Sunshine is getting great reviews and is said to be cohesive and impactful. So which brings me to why does it take Mariah so long nowadays to release an album? She is no stranger to churning out great albums, and she finished Rainbow in a few months. But what is stopping her from fully investing herself in an album now? If she can come up with WBT, ILT, SIO all within a span of 2 days, what's hindering her now? (Monday 11 March 2024; 14:28)

Ariana SNL performance (105,950) by T from USA Mariah did do that on Memoirs of An Imperfect Angel. Obsessed was vastly different than the mood of the album. So much so that I believe the album suffered until streaming starting kicking in a few years ago. Back in 2009 lots of people who were fans of Mariah stayed away from the album initially because they weren't feeling the new teeny bopper vibe Mariah was giving from E=MC2 to Obsessed. Little did they know the actual album was full of classic MC R&B. I still think Obsessed would've fit in better on Einstein in 2008. And Memoirs could've used Skydiving (Timbaland) in its place. (Monday 11 March 2024; 21:16) this is a reply to message 105,941

Ariana SNL performance (105,941) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I haven't heard the full album yet and I just saw her newest music video and it was so beautifully done. If there's one thing about Ariana, her music videos are on point. I love the movie references she puts in some of them. Example TUN had so many iconic scenes from 4 iconic movies. This one was a tribute to "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind". I don't know who comes up with the contexts but I hope Mariah picks up on those for her next visuals inspirations. I'll be checking out the album, I hear it's a cohesive and compact one telling a story which I enjoy. I think the reason she won't term it as a "break up" album is because she has to keep it vague. Her and Dalton had signed NDAs as part of their divorce so none can outright bash the other. I'm surprised that her lead single was so different from the mood of the album, that's smart and risky at the same time. Because Ariana has such a huge streaming pull she can do it, if it was Mariah and her lead single was so controversial and different from her actual album people might not be as receptive. (Sunday 10 March 2024; 18:46)

Photoshoot (105,936) by T from USA I think you're on to something. She redid WBT. Maybe the Butterfly Lounge turned into a a redo of TEOM with duets. Maybe a re-release on the anniversary with a bonus disc of remakes from Mimi? Although, do CD's even sell anymore? I think Mariah should focus on SUD, if it's actually a thing. A new album would not do well in this climate for Mariah. Ariana's Grande album will not debut with big numbers, and she's the biggest streaming artist out there. The reason Mariah focuses on the Christmas album every year is because it actually makes money and there is interest in it. (Sunday 10 March 2024; 14:06) this is a reply to message 105,928

Photoshoot (105,928) by Robert-Anthony from United States I have a feeling we are about get something that will be sold in her store only. What if those young producers MC talked about reimagined the some of the songs on TEOM. We should know by March 25th. (Saturday 9 March 2024; 23:02)

Mariah never lied or let anyone on (105,916) by T from USA I'm just a fan who reads the signs. That's as much as I can say. It's too bad all the lambs and Ariana fans didn't support the YAR more because it could've really carried Mariah through the summer with a song on the radio and streaming platforms. I listened to Ari's new album and I think it's fantastic. She's incorporating a lot of R&B that's been missing in big pop music as of late. I now know that if Mariah would work with Max Martin for an album it would sound magical. Mariah commented on Ariana's post saying she will be listening to the album the moment it drops. I wonder if her kids are big fans of Ari and are the reason Mariah is more interested in her music? If so it could open the doors to a lot more new producers, sounds and ideas. I would love if Mariah had a new body of work in the vide of Eternal Sunshine. It just sounds so organic and not pushed or over produced. (Friday 8 March 2024; 21:35) this is a reply to message 105,892

Mariah never lied or let anyone on (105,892) by Robert-Anthony from United States Come clean, T. Who are you? Lambs would like to know. (Thursday 7 March 2024; 22:54)

Mariah never lied or let anyone on (105,884) by T from USA Mariah will headline two festivals this summer, she'll do Vegas in the spring and then a massive Christmas tour starting in November. That's the extent of it this year guys. That's all I can say. (Thursday 7 March 2024; 01:04) this is a reply to message 105,883

Mariah never lied or let anyone on (105,883) by Robert-Anthony from United States Agreed. Maybe I used the wrong word. I am having MC withdrawals out here in Texas. Lol. I just want a hot single or two right now. (Wednesday 6 March 2024; 21:45)

Mariah never lied or let anyone on (105,867) by T from USA These things take time and when she said she's worked with younger producers or newer artists she has. Khalid, Latto and Ariana Grande are all newer artists she has delivered throughout the years. Guys, albums aren't in. They don't sell and have a shelf life of one week. It's not happening. The Butterfly Lounge, these new collections of songs, it's all her creating but it doesn't mean it's being packaged as an album in the traditional sense. Max Martin was the biggest surprise as it is the farthest sound Mariah is known for these days. But it was a fresh sound. Let's wait for the Christmas shows, I hear they are going international this year. I just don't want people spending their whole year waiting for a new album when it's clear that she isn't there. Vegas is being branded as a TEOM theme. Setting her up for a big Mimi anniversary next Spring. I do have a feeling she is holding SUD back to see if she's getting into the RRHOF. (Tuesday 5 March 2024; 16:53)

No new album in 2024 (105,848) by T from USA I'm hearing that there indeed will be no new album this year. MC16 is nowhere near completion and she doesn't have a label either. For fans that loved MIAMTEC I'm sure when something finally comes it will be in the vein of that album that took time to release (2011-2014). And less like Caution that was all done in a matter of months. Jay Z and Roc Nation lined up ten different producers and Mariah just banged out Caution in record time. MC16 will be more of a personal work that has sit with her for years before release. The question will be if any of the Butterfly Lounge ideas will make it on. The Yes And remix was recorded to hold fans over until Christmas which will be a big 30th anniversary later this year. Hopefully there will be one more song release this year as well, but it doesn't look like it. (Sunday 3 March 2024; 13:51)

Charmbraclet: 2024 remix edition (105,837) by T from USA Not sure how this would work with Whitney being dead for over a decade now. Or do you mean these could've been the mixes that came out at the time in 2002? Because if she was to remix Charmbracelet in 2024, I think the list of artists attached would be vastly different then the ones you have there. (Friday 1 March 2024; 22:17) this is a reply to message 105,835

Charmbraclet: 2024 remix edition (105,835) by Robert-Anthony from United States What if Charmbraclet was remixed today? Who would you choose as a feature? 1. Through The Rain ft. Whitney Houston and Deborah Cox 2. Boy (I Need You) ft. Fabulous 3. The One ft. Jagged Edge 4. Yours ft. Mint Condition 5. You Got Me ft. Total and Diddy 6. I Only Wanted ft. Frankie J 7. Clown ft. Ciara 8. My Saving Grace ft. The Clark Sisters 9. You Had Your Chance ft. Xscape and JD 10. Lullaby ft. Faith Evans 11. Irresitable ft. Busta Rhymes 12. Subtle Invitation ft. Tamia 13. Bringin On The Heartbreak ft. Def Leppard (Friday 1 March 2024; 22:02)

Angels Advocate (105,836) by T from USA I think timelines get a little mixed up around this period. Mariah had a miscarriage in the fall of 2008. Heartbroken she was encouraged to go back into the studio and create an album, which ended up becoming Memoirs. So by the time the album came out in the fall of 2009, she was on the promotional road for the album. But unfortunately she talked more about her small cameo in the movie Precious, then she did about her new album. The album didn't meet expectations and had a huge budget that did not make the dollars back at the time so the other two versions were shelved, she got pregnant in 2010 and moved on to a Christmas release in the fall of '10. I think letting Angels Advocate go is something we need to do, as if it was good it would've already seen the light of day in some capacity. I've personally heard ten of the fourteen songs and I can undoubtedly say I like the original solo versions better. (Friday 1 March 2024; 22:14) this is a reply to message 105,834

Angels Advocate (105,834) by jaker20 from US If this entire album was released at that time, it would be her massive album streaming, if it was released as planned, which was literally just before Spotify exploded and all those names attached took off. A real missed opportunity, and those songs are most likely sitting in different vaults everywhere. But in fairness to Mariah though, it was a turbulent time for her, with her miscarriage and all. (Friday 1 March 2024; 20:36)

Angels Advocate (105,825) by T from USA Could've been a double disc release, that would've satisfied everyone. I would've loved this track list. Album. Disc 1 1. Betcha Gon' Know 2. Obsessed 3. H.A.T.E.U. 4. Candy Bling 5. Ribbon 6. Inseparable 7. Standing O 8. It's A Wrap 9. Up Out My Face 10. More Than Just Friends 11. The Impossible 12. Angels Cry 13. Languishing 14. I Want To Know What Love Is Disc 2 1. Betcha Gon' Know (ft. R. Kelly) 2. Obsessed (ft. Lil' Wayne) 3. H.A.T.E.U. (ft. OJ Da Juiceman, Big Boi, Gucci Mane) 4. Candy Bling (ft. T-Pain) 5. Ribbon (ft. Ludacris) 6. Inseparable (ft. Trey Songz) 7. Standing O (ft. Rihanna) 8. It's A Wrap (ft. Mary J Blige) 9. Up Out My Face (ft. Nicki Minaj) 10. More Than Just Friends (ft. Drake) 11. The Impossible (ft. Jodeci) 12. Angels Cry (ft. Neyo) 13. My Love (ft. The Dream) 14. Imperfect (ft. Missy Elliot) (Friday 1 March 2024; 14:07) this is a reply to message 105,822

Angels Advocate (105,822) by Robert-Anthony from United States Why didn't L.A. Reid release it? I think it was because he put so much money into that Elle insert that he didn't want another failed MC album release under his leadership. Non-fans were just not feeling Memoirs to justify a remix album. I hope she gives us something in MC16 that will make us happy. (Friday 1 March 2024; 02:33)

Told ya (105,824) by T from USA No, Cardi and Shakira have a new song coming on March 22nd. Cardi's first single for her own album is a solo song. I can't see Mariah releasing anything Cardi related after this high budget Shakira music video drops. That's even if they recorded anything together. Don't believe all the rumors. If we did we would've gotten Mariah with Usher at the halftime show as well. (Friday 1 March 2024; 13:57) this is a reply to message 105,820

Told ya (105,820) by Robert-Anthony from United States Shakira? Really? I would rather JD produced the whole album. (Thursday 29 February 2024; 23:16)

Told ya (105,819) by T from USA Everyone claiming a Cardi song and just giving up on YAR are in for a big surprise as there is no Cardi B collaboration coming this year. She's releasing a song with Shakira on March 22nd and a solo song as well. We as fans need to focus on the things that actually happen like a collaboration with the biggest streaming artist currently in Ariana Grande. Getting YAR into the top 10 would've done wonders for the song and set Mariah up with something new to perform in Vegas. Something current and relevant. We were so close to that credit, so close to a top 10 for our MC. The remix was Mariah's new song to hold us over until Christmas, but most were too busy looking for the next new song. As for me, I'm going to continue to stream Yes, And remix and enjoy the fact that she was on a current track in 2024. (Thursday 29 February 2024; 22:17)

Cardi B (105,785) by T from USA This is why I'm so confused about the lambily. Some of the same people who didn't want her collaborating with Ari and now wanting a Cardi B song. Mariah must be so confused as to who actually is her fanbase and how to sell to them. Personally, I want to hear it all but maybe she should pick a lane and stick to it. If she does go the contemporary route hopefully it will be the last time and then she'll just fully make more mature music like jazz and gospel in her 60's. (Tuesday 27 February 2024; 14:00) this is a reply to message 105,779

Cardi B (105,779) by Robert-Anthony from United States I believe it is going to happen now. The sixth year anniversary of her album Invasion of Privacy is coming up on April 6th. (Tuesday 27 February 2024; 11:57)

TEOM era will probably the last great era (105,775) by T from USA She had three massive blockbuster eras in her whole career. Music Box, Daydream and TEOM. But some of the others would even rival some of today's big stars (debut, Butterfly, Rainbow, E=MC2). So I'm content with her "eras". The industry has changed so much, even since Caution. Honestly, an album only lasts one week now so there is no point even considering it an era in the way we used to look at things. 2008 was the last big era for Mariah Carey. Obsessed and Beautiful gave her some great chart success after that. AIWFCIY is a monster on the charts. I would love one more well thought out project with multiple single releases, music videos and remixes. But I just don't see that happening at this point. I'm glad we got to hear her on a Max Martin track, that was a bucket list item. I guess now we can hope the artist comes through with some jazz, gospel and blues. One can also hope for one more hot hip hop track with Cardi B and also the release of Someone's Ugly Daughter. (Tuesday 27 February 2024; 00:06) this is a reply to message 105,768

TEOM era will probably the last great era (105,768) by Robert-Anthony from United States I am not trying to sound negative, but I believe that the TEOM era will probably be the last great era. The TEOM era made people take notice of MC again. The era had everything that every artist wants: a multiple plantinum album, top charting hit singles, a sold-out tour, gorgeous and well-thought out videos, multiple awards, brillant performances, and magazine covers galore. I don't think the MC16 era or subsequent eras will give us that type of era ever again. (Monday 26 February 2024; 20:58)

Final Billboard placement for YAR (105,749) by T from USA I'm gutted. It did even better than I thought and still missed the top 10 by one spot. It increased 49% from the previous week. One percentage point away from a Mariah credit. Didn't you wonder why her Instagram story she uploaded a short clip of her singing the song in the middle of the week? She badly wanted to get into the top 10 again. She missed it by one spot. I know the lambs and Ari fans contributed to the raise out of curiosity. But I also know after the initial buzz the fans really let them down. Had everyone kept up the momentum for a whole week, MC would be celebrating a new top ten hit in the thirty fourth year of her career. So close. (Sunday 25 February 2024; 14:46)

General public or bad decisions (105,708) by T from USA Matty, do you prefer the west coast of Canada or do you miss Guelf? I've never seen much of Canada. (Saturday 24 February 2024; 13:15) this is a reply to message 105,622

General public or bad decisions (105,622) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Glitter is a masterpiece - I think lambs remember this moment as a failure, but this was the only year Mariah appeared in Forbes list of most powerful women, she did the national anthem at the Super Bowl in 2002 next to the 9/11 statue, she looked gorgeous, and Loverboy was constantly on the radio, on TV music stations, also #2 on Billboard (don't give me the it was discounted argument, because most singles were always discounted and sat in the discount bins at HMV and Music World). I think corporate Virgin panicked more than the public. I love Charmbraclet personally, and in my home town of Guelph Ontario (45 mins south/west of Toronto) "Boy" was on the radio constantly, but for some reason the album wasn't what they wanted as a "comeback" album after 18 months of lows ( ) Why do those few months out of 30 years taint her? I'll never know. Think of all the celebrated singers with issues now, 18 months out of the game or spotlight is nothing, Demi Lovato, Britney, even the beauty that is Selina Gomez, Gaga, Ariana. Maybe it was simply the expectation that year after year for a decade Mariah was ever present and showed up. I have no doubt that's exhausting. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:06)

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