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Daydream before it all (111,907)
by T from USA
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Would it have been better or even more successful if Mariah would've released TEOM20 in April and then Daydream30 in October and saved HFIA album for the top of 2026? That way these celebration concerts wouldn't interfere. And either putting S.U.D. with Daydream or saving it for 2026 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame after HFIA.
(Thursday 16 October 2025; 02:55)
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Here For It All (111,906)
by T from USA
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She lists her managers on the liner notes on the new album as Michael Richardson (her former tour manager) and Liron (site administer/creator of Mariah Daily). Melissa from Caution is gone.
(Thursday 16 October 2025; 02:49)
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Here For It All (111,902)
by Alexis Carrington-Colby from United States
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Wait, who is her manager?
(Thursday 16 October 2025; 00:40)
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Here For It All (111,892)
by T from USA
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Maybe because it's not as good as her former work. That's pretty easy to see. The songs are nice. But there are no hits and if she would've released this instead of E=MC2 after the Mimi era people would've been shocked. Just go back and listen to how polished and expensive her past albums were, especially Glitter. Money doesn't make a good song, but it can make an average song sound good. I actually believe this is just a collection of songs that she put together in the last seven years until she had enough to justify an album release. It's funny because with Caution everyone said if other artists released those songs they would be massive hits, but nobody is saying that for any of the songs on HFIA. I also think she got tired of the question on when is she releasing. Rihanna just ignores it and refuses to put out something that is less than her previous work. Mariah is being managed by her former tour manager and a super fan who ran a website in the past. Nothing screams expensive except those diamonds she has pictured on the album cover. She was bored in the interviews. She's over it. I'm glad she finally has some MTV Moon Man for her shelf. The last thing for her really is the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
(Wednesday 15 October 2025; 17:46)
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Here For It All (111,889)
by TJ from Norway
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I'm not surprised. I don't feel the album. It seems like 99% of the members here love it, but I'm more like "meh". There are some songs that I like, but I have to admit that I haven't been listening to it since September 27th or something like that. I don't know why, but it might be me who is holding on to the past and enjoys that music much more.
(Wednesday 15 October 2025; 17:11)
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2025 (111,883)
by T from USA
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This song was terrible in every way.
(Wednesday 15 October 2025; 14:15)
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2025 (111,878)
by Lighty from China
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Maybe Golden?
(Wednesday 15 October 2025; 04:39)
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Wait, seriously? Nothing for Daydream30? (111,882)
by T from USA
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Why was the second disc a Daydream live tour? It could've been literally anything, it could've been the live Charmbracelet tour. But it was 2020 which was the 25th anniversary of Daydream. Maybe if she held off on including that disc then you would get it this year on the 30th. Maybe there's nothing worthwhile left from Daydream.
(Wednesday 15 October 2025; 14:12)
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Wait, seriously? Nothing for Daydream30? (111,879)
by Lighty from China
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I remember someone on this board told me that The Rarities is actually Daydream 25 and "it's pretty obvious".
(Wednesday 15 October 2025; 04:43)
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Hostage release Nothing Is Impossible (111,843)
by T from USA
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I just heard president Trump talk about the prisoners harrowing nights. And immediately I thought if a TikTok is made with NII using the visuals of the hostages being reunited with their families, it would be such a touching and viral moment.
(Monday 13 October 2025; 16:10)
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Some random idea (111,842)
by T from USA
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Mariah and Whitney became friends once they were finally locked in a room together and got to know each other. The difference is Mariah doesn't respect JLo's talent. And she's probably a little jealous of what she's achieved by having good PR and management teams. Where Mariah always perceives herself as having a rough time with the media, JLo is somewhat a media darling. Mariah should realize she had it pretty easy out there during the Tommy years because he shielded her from scrutiny. Mariah's media problems really started after she left the safety net that was Tommy.
(Monday 13 October 2025; 15:16)
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Some random idea (111,839)
by Dove from United States
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The comment you made about Mariah doing a duet with Jennifer Lopez made me think about the movie What Ever Happened to Baby Jane. It's with Betty Davis and Joan Crawford. (It's free on Tubi right now.)
They were rivals in real life and they did the movie together because they knew their rivalry would garner interest in the movie and it did. There was a TV series about it with Jessica Lange and Susan Sarandon called Fued. It was pretty good.
I don't know, honestly I think Jennifer Lopez and Mariah might like each other. They have a lot in common. Kind of like how Joan and Betty might have also been best friends if they hadn't been put in competition with each other.
(Monday 13 October 2025; 14:48)
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Thoughts (111,841)
by T from USA
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I agree. It was definitely a possibility that she could've had a pretty decent sized era. Type Dangerous launched the era well but they dragged it on too long, the remixes should've come earlier. In the old days her team was able to time things so perfectly that the remixes would boost the song and get a higher debut on the Hot 100. If the remixes were released the week she was debuting on the chart, maybe it would've came in near 75, as opposed to 95. I'm certain Play This Song coming fast after TD would've given the critics something to chew on. All of a sudden she's back on the Hot 100 and has a critically acclaimed darling in Anderson on a new song. That would've been a good one-two punch. In Your Feelings for the third single timed with the release of the album, and then Here For It All to carry the a/c fans across the finish line. This still can be done, even though the whole summer was wasted on Sugar Sweet.
(Monday 13 October 2025; 15:11)
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Thoughts (111,825)
by BFF from United States
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I have to say that I am super disappointed in the launch and performance of the album. I didn't expect a massive single or huge sales like Taylor Swift or Beyonce, but I think a Top 40 single like "#Beautiful" was definitely a realistic goal. I agree with T's post. "Type Dangerous" was the right launch single - it outperformed all of the singles released from "Caution" and was her first non-Holiday solo Hot 100 appearance in a decade (last one was "Infinity" in 2015). It was positioned in much the same way that "It's Like That" was in 2005 to drum up buzz for "The Emancipation of Mimi".
They should have pivoted to "Play This Song" as the second single rather than "Sugar Sweet." A duet with Anderson .Paak had a much better chance of taking off on the charts after the momentum built by TD.
I definitely called this months ago when I wrote that the album release was too close to the Holiday season. The album seemed ready to go back in June, so they could have released it in July/August. But they waited too long and made the wrong single choices and now HFIA is quickly being memory holed by the overseas Mimi anniversary tour engagements and Mariah's annual Christmas blitz.
I love the album, and I am proud that Mariah put out something so great. But it's frustrating to wait seven years and then have the album perform so poorly. Tina Turner, Cher, Madonna, and Aretha Franklin were all still having Top 40 hits into their 50s, and I just felt that Mariah had at least one more non-Holiday midsized or big hit in the cards.
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 17:53)
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Some random idea (111,840)
by T from USA
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Mariah would never sing a current popular singer's song. She also would never work with JLo. But you got me thinking what she could've done for HFIA. She could've pulled a Michael Jackson and done a double disc called "Herstory" and the first disc could've been an updated greatest hits and the second disc could've been the new album. Call the whole thing "Herstory: Here For It all" and have the album cover a statue of her, like a play on MJ's picture. Then people who would've bought it for the greatest hits would hear all the new songs. At least it would've sold double the amount in the first week and more in the long term.
(Monday 13 October 2025; 15:00)
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Some random idea (111,824)
by Lara from Middle East
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Next compilation idea could be The Covers like she did for The Rarities. Mariah has her way with covers disc 1 could be covers of recent popular songs with their author (might be expensive though to get the copyrights?), for example imagine her covering IDGF with Dua Lipa, Versace on the Floor with Bruno Mars, Please Please Please with Sabrina Carpenter etc. and disc 2 will be all the covers she already did. More wild, imagine her doing a duet with JLo, she's singing and JLo dancing. If there's any other single to get from HFIA, I'd like it to be Nothing is Impossible. It's her most relatable song. HFIA is beautiful but feels more personal. An idea for the video clip could be like a mini movie on her medical struggles that could explain why she's so stiff. And how despite it all she's still in the music industry because nothing is impossible.
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 17:38)
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My single choices (111,822)
by T from USA
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I think Type Dangerous was a great way to launch the era, but as soon as it hit #95 on Billboard I think they should've pivoted to song #2 with Anderson. That way he could've performed with her on the VMA's. With an exciting music video it would've been a nice summer moment. Once you have all eyes on her you release the third song a week before the album comes out which would be IYF. And the forth and last single would've been HFIA in early November along with "it's time".
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 14:18)
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My single choices (111,815)
by Dove from United States
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My single choices in order:
Here for it All In Your Feelings Type: Dangerous My Love (I may be biased on this one since it was one of my favorite songs already)
What are yours?
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 02:39)
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Madonna's Bed Time Stories new song (111,813)
by T from USA
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Madge just put out an unreleased song from the Bed Time Stories era that was funnily enough produced by Dallas Austin. She must be reading this board. So I went on his Instagram and he's busy producing for a lot of new up and comers and the music sounds good.
(Saturday 11 October 2025; 13:53)
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The problem with every lamb - HFIA charts (111,790)
by T from USA
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Well said. Even that latest interview produced by Spotify with Kelly Rowland she calls out that younger artists for pretending to not be about getting a hit. Mariah knows they are all in this to be popular and get hits. The lambs use her no hits as defense mechanism and all of a sudden paint her to be some kind of martyr that is only doing this for the art. Let me break it to you, she ain't in Asia right now for the art.
(Friday 10 October 2025; 14:31)
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The problem with every lamb - HFIA charts (111,789)
by BFF from United States
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Fans care about the charts because Mariah cares about the charts. She has marketed herself as the "biggest selling female recording artist in US history" since the early 2000s. The Forbes magazine article about her partnership with Gamma explicitly stated she and the team were interested in surpassing The Beatles' record for most #1 singles in United States history. She wouldn't launch into festive overdrive every year to notch more weeks at #1 for AIWFCIY if she didn't care about charts.
Mariah has always been willful, ambitious and tenacious; and it is one of the things I have always admired about her. I don't expect a number one record every single time, but I definitely want Mariah to succeed. I love her ambition and the fact that she is a boss lady in a way that Beyonce and Taylor Swift can only dream about.
(Friday 10 October 2025; 14:15)
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In Your Feelings (111,788)
by T from USA
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This is exactly it. The era needs saving, not the album. If In Your Feelings becomes a hit (which all of a sudden the lambs seem to be against hits) then more people will be exposed to the album and listen to this great body of work. Sometimes I forget how sensitive the lambs are, it's like many of them operate on the eternally twelve frame of mind as well.
(Friday 10 October 2025; 13:49)
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In Your Feelings (111,786)
by Lara from Middle East
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I guess it's not that it needs saving as much we wanted it to reach more people because it's really good. People are sleeping on it.
(Friday 10 October 2025; 11:05)
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In Your Feelings (111,777)
by T from USA
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I think IYF is the only shot she could have at saving this era with a song. But it needs a duet, it needs Bruno Mars. It's the only song on the album that is fresh in a way that it doesn't sound exactly like something she's done before but it at the same time it slightly harkens back to her glory 2005 days. The diamonds throughout the album artwork is cool, she's a rich bitch and she knows it.
(Thursday 9 October 2025; 17:20)
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Thoughts on the marketing theme for HFIA album (111,774)
by T from USA
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I noticed the CD insert booklet has a theme of diamonds on every page. She's also wearing a giant diamond on the cover and the CD itself showcases her diamond butterfly ring. Was this a purposely chosen theme or is this just a case of not having a strong idea so diamonds are a girls best friend? Butterfly had the theme of butterflies on the album artwork, Rainbow had rainbows. Could she possible mean she's here for it all the diamonds?
(Thursday 9 October 2025; 03:56)
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Mariah and Gamma (111,771)
by T from USA
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This is exactly right. I mean, it was in Gamma's own press release at the start of this album era that said they wanted big success including more #1's from Mariah. Whether they were expecting it for this album or the next who knows. But she did get back on the Hot 100. I'm not sure if that counts as success to them. I wonder if she would've just kept the best of these songs and worked a little more on new ones and went for an Emancipation 3 moment would have that made a difference in the sales? I'm also starting to see people say they have stopped playing this album a lot less already and I'm thinking, wow seven years to make an album and people can't even spin it for more than seven days?
(Wednesday 8 October 2025; 17:48)
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Mariah and Gamma (111,769)
by BFF from United States
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I think a lot of recording artists make the mistake of believing that producing art alone is enough. The music industry is a business and that means turning some kind of profit is necessary. If you want something to be successful, you have to work hard for it. In the major label system, artists often complain about being exploited and sometimes they are. But the reality is that the record companies invest a lot of money in the artists. So some level of discomfort has to be tolerated in order to ensure a project's success. Mariah worked really hard in the early 1990s producing some stuff that the label wanted and some stuff that she was passionate about. The commercial clout she built allowed her to pivot to passion projects from 1997-2001 with some great (Butterfly) and not-so-great (Glitter) results.
Gamma's leadership can talk endlessly about being "independent" and nurturing artists, but it will not be a successful enterprise if it continues investing money in projects without delivering numbers to support the infrastructure of the company. And I'm sure investors will begin pulling out if Gamma continues with a poor track record.
The "Type Dangerous" video looked expensive to me. Why invest all of that money into the first single, drop the ball with "Sugar Sweet", and release the album right before Mariah pivots to international tour dates for "The Celebration of Mimi" and a Vegas Residency for Christmas?
(Wednesday 8 October 2025; 16:15)
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Dallas Austin (111,768)
by T from USA
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It's probably Mariah's choice. I can't see their schedules not matching up in 35 years at least once if there was a real desire to do so. I just remembered he wrote and produced Cool for Gwen Stefani in 2004. What a hit. Interesting the movie Mariah's 2nd husband Nick Cannon played in "Drumline" was based off Dallas Austin life story.
(Wednesday 8 October 2025; 15:07)
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Dallas Austin (111,765)
by Jamie from UK
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Could just be Mariah doesn't like his work or him. I'm sure if she had wanted too she would have. Or it could be that they both had other commitments.
(Wednesday 8 October 2025; 09:19)
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Here For It All deluxe / duets (111,764)
by T from USA
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I'd vote for: Celine Dion on Nothing Is Impossible, SZA on Confetti & Champaign, Bruno Mars on I Won't Allow It.
(Wednesday 8 October 2025; 03:05)
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Here For It All deluxe / duets (111,762)
by jaker20 from US
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I like this list. Good effort putting this together. But personally I'd like Mariah to release Angels Advocate first.
(Wednesday 8 October 2025; 01:54)
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Dallas Austin (111,763)
by T from USA
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It's definitely a theory. Which I asked for. But not one hundred percent convinced that's it. Although, what else could it be? She did work with Babyface on When You Believe in 1998, that was four years after Bedtime Stories. (But she also had a little bit of history with him so maybe that's why.) I couldn't picture Dallas Austin on Butterfly but he would've fit in perfectly on Rainbow because Mariah was still straddling the lines of pop/r&b and it was also when Dallas was giving the girls like TLC their biggest hits. The last time I heard of anything of note from Austin was in 2003, right before TEOM, when he produced Janet's massive comeback single but unfortunately the Superbowl incident cut it short. Actually that retro r&b pop sound Dallas is good at might've worked on HFIA while she was down in Atlanta.
(Wednesday 8 October 2025; 03:02)
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Dallas Austin (111,761)
by Bobby A from United States
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Believe me I think MC and Dallas could have given the R&B world another Don't Take It Personal by Monica. However, MC and Madonna began exchanging disparinging remarks towards each other in late 1995. Dallas Austin's greatest chance to work with MC was 1996-1999. MC probably didn't consider Dallas Austin for Butterfly or Rainbow because she didn't want to feed the media more reasons to pit the two up against each other in some competition or comparison. Dallas Austin, Babyface, Dave Hall, and Nellee Hopper kind of helped Madonna reinvent herself with Bedtime Stories and regain her fans back. What club hopping gay man didn't love her song Secret.
(Wednesday 8 October 2025; 01:30)
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Dallas Austin (111,758)
by T from USA
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I'm not really sure what you mean. She collaborated with Timbaland in 2009 and again in 2018, after he produced a whole Madonna album in 2008. Also Babyface was part of Madonna's [Bedtime Stories] and Mariah's worked with him after that. Dallas Austin is the only big Atlanta hitmaker, who is in the [Songwriters Hall of Fame], that came up at the same time as her that she hasn't worked with. Curios.
(Tuesday 7 October 2025; 16:30)
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Dallas Austin (111,754)
by Bobby A from United States
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He collaborated with Madonna on one of her best albums, Bedtime Stories. We know how MC feels about Madonna.
(Tuesday 7 October 2025; 11:57)
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Dallas Austin (111,748)
by T from USA
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I would've loved a twelfth track produced and co-written by Atlanta's best Dallas Austin. I wonder why Mariah has never worked with him. He has a long history with LA Reid and is good friends with JD. Strange they never sent Mariah his way.
(Tuesday 7 October 2025; 02:38)
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HFIA classic sounds without the producer tags (111,747)
by T from USA
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I love how there are absolutely no producer tags at the start of any of the songs. Maybe that's the benefit on not being on a major label forcing you to advertise for producers. It makes the songs sound more timeless. Einstein has that dated producer tag sound.
(Tuesday 7 October 2025; 02:36)
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How can I get a message to Mariah? (111,746)
by T from USA
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She's gaining his musicality through this relationship. Together they made some good songs and they're having fun. I doubt it's that deep. I actually think the same thing she wanted from Eminem before Glitter but he became a bit too obsessed for her.
(Tuesday 7 October 2025; 02:34)
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How can I get a message to Mariah? (111,741)
by Mimi from UK
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I'm shocked that someone of Mariah's stature doesn't have a PI. I found out this information about him quite easily and you're telling me Mariah herself or couldn't run a quick Google search about him or something? Lol.
It's shocking honestly. What's the point of leaving boys like Nick and her other previous men just to get with another boy who cheated on his wife throughout the marriage and has according to sidechicks who are with Anderson been cheating on Mariah since the beginning.
(Tuesday 7 October 2025; 00:53)
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A hit is a hit is a hit (111,730)
by T from USA
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The bottom line, unless you are the flavor of the month is that the only way to have better than expected album sales is to have a world wide recognized hit. The songs on HFIA are all great, some even say amazing. But there is no world wide recognized hit that made an impact. Mariah's always had hits, the times she didn't were Glitter, Charmbracelet, and Caution. Those are also her lowest sales. So she sold this new album on her name alone, like Taylor Swift.
(Monday 6 October 2025; 01:37)
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Here for everything but it all (111,696)
by T from USA
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A quick Google search of Mariah Carey's name and the top 5 news articles are about: a secret MJ duet, a secret rock album, Eminem, still not knowing JLo, and the Christmas tour. Gee, I wonder why the album is not in the top 5 on Billboard? I guess a new artist can debut high because it literally is all about the music, but as an act reaches their sixteenth album all everyone cares about is everything else.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 03:39)
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