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Article: Daniel Bedingfield will release lost Mariah Carey duet (106,325)
by Edward from USA
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We Gotta Get Thru This.
(Thursday 2 May 2024; 02:27)
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More Taylor (106,311)
by Edward from USA
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Your post just brought me back. The constant invocation of the race card feels tired and overused, at this point it's kind of slickening.
Mariah Carey once held the same formidable position in the music industry that Taylor Swift now occupies. During her reign, Mariah stood tall at the pinnacle of success while other esteemed artists gradually receded from the spotlight. Such is the cycle of life in the music world. Mariah's dominance coincided with a generation that grew up immersed in her timeless melodies, perhaps unaware of the legendary artists who paved the way before her.
While I may not personally resonate with Taylor's music, it's important to acknowledge the undeniable facts: her numbers speak volumes, much like Mariah's did in the '90s. Though I wouldn't personally invest in Taylor's work due to my own tastes, it's clear that millions around the globe find immense appeal in her music. This is undeniably her moment to shine.
As fans, it's natural to root for our favorites and celebrate their successes. However, it's equally important to do so without disparaging other artists. Mariah herself has faced unwarranted criticism in the past, and as fans, we should understand the importance of uplifting our idols without tearing down others.
Man you all have a great day.
(Sunday 28 April 2024; 18:16)
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More Taylor (106,310)
by Chris from United States
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My disclaimer is that I could care less about Bey or Tay and don't hold any allegiance to either of these chicks. This white supremacy claim can be taken to the alley, and left for pickup next day. Bey has had mad success for the last 5 years or so, where it's been sickening. That was her time, and now is just Tay's time whether we like it or not. Honestly, this is just as sickening, but here we are.
For you to sit here before us and tell us not to put certain names together in a sentence suggests that you feel a sense of superiority or entitlement, when we are simply having a discussion. Yes, a discussion where not everyone agrees, but just because you don't agree with them, you run about having a temper tantrum - it's laughable. Using the race card to assert your dominance on this topic is actually quite low, to be honest. The queen of poetic lyricism has had her decade in the sun, and deservedly so. For some reason, people dig this mediocre Taylor writing (who still acts like she's 15) but who am I? Who are you?
Yes, Taylor does write her own material; some really good stuff, and a lot being just silly. These words are hers and from her own mind - therefore, making her a writer. Just because it's white, or something you don't agree with, doesn't mean you can't simply say her name in the same sentence as Mariah, or that other girl, Beyoncé. This is just coming off as immature.
I am just glad I got to witness one of the greatest writers with one of the greatest voices dominate for a whole decade. It's a shame MC won't release much today, outside of Christmas, prob due to the landscape and where people's minds are (Taylor idolization). But, I know Mariah is the OG, and paved the way for many artists like Swift. Oh crap, did I just mention their names in the same sentence?
(Sunday 28 April 2024; 16:17)
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Happy forever 12 Edward (106,117)
by Edward from USA
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Stacey and Mimi L, thank you.
(Saturday 6 April 2024; 06:34)
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Happy forever 12 Edward (106,115)
by Stacey from USA
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Happiest of days to you. I hope you are well.
(Friday 5 April 2024; 23:15)
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Happy forever 12 Edward (106,112)
by Edward from USA
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Thank you, TJ. I appreciate it.
(Friday 5 April 2024; 18:54)
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Happy forever 12 Edward (106,110)
by TJ from Norway
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Traditions are ment to be kept alive. Have a lovely day my friend.
(Friday 5 April 2024; 14:16)
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Stacey and Robert (105,585)
by Edward from USA
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It's just little break. I'm not leaving board.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 21:35)
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Herd mentality (105,576)
by Edward from USA
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I do not follow the herd mentality. It's perfectly fine if 99 percent of people love the "Yes, And?" remix. I've always advocated for people expressing their opinions here, even if they differ from my own. I will respectfully express my views, even if they diverge from the prevailing consensus.
I think it's time for me to take a break from this board. Peace to all.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 17:29)
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,575)
by Edward from USA
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While you may not be a fashion expert, you still hold opinions on fashion, just as others may have opinions on medical matters. As I mentioned, these are simply opinions. While I might disagree with your opinion, I would never discourage you from expressing it.
One need not be an expert to recognize when Mariah doesn't look great in certain outfits, just as one need not be a doctor to sense when something is amiss health-wise with someone. Speculation is something we can all engage in, regardless of our expertise.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 17:14)
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,573)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Being a doctor and fashion expert are two vastly different things. One deals with people's health, life and death and needs a very high level of expertise. Anyone can be a fashion expert you just need to have good taste and an eye for what's fashionable. It's not the same. It's not even a debate.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 16:50)
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Writing (105,574)
by Edward from USA
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I believe this is something Mariah should have pursued long ago, especially considering the lengthy gaps between her album releases. Given her talent and experience, she could have been an exceptional record producer/lyricist for other artists. I wonder why she never chose to explore this avenue.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 17:05)
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Writing (105,572)
by Tevin from USA
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I really hope within the next couple of years Mariah starts writing and possibly produce songs for other people. Whether for pop stars or rnb singers, up and coming or established. What singers would you love Mariah to write and or produce songs for?
(Monday 19 February 2024; 16:38)
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No, but (105,571)
by Edward from USA
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I wasn't fixated on the song's chart performance, my primary focus was Mariah matching Ariana's delivery. I didn't expect Mariah to overshadow Ariana or turn it into a vocal showdown, I just I simply hoped they'd harmonize well together.
Ariana didn't resing anything for the remix, much like how Mariah didn't resing anything for "Whenever You Call" with Brian McKnight. The ball was on Mariah's court, she had the opportunity to elevate the song with her input. A mere loud whistle or high note no longer suffices. Ariana's whistle notes seamlessly integrate into the song, whereas Mariah's feel less natural.
I'm hopeful that a proper collaboration between Mariah and Ariana on Mariah's next album will yield a timeless song akin to "When You Believe". Sorry if that's too much to ask.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 15:58)
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No, but (105,568)
by T from USA
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Worst case scenario. The song tanked off the Spotify top 200 in two days. People do not enjoy this song. We know how Mariah reacts when something bombs this bad. She will go in a completely different direction. Distance herself from this sound which means Max Martin no more. Dance music no more. Upbeat music with belting no more. Hoping on a younger artist's song no more. It's going to be slow beat ballads going forward lol.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 15:03)
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,569)
by Edward from USA
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It's merely an opinion, akin to when you suggest certain outfits or styles for her to wear or not. You're not a fashion expert, just as I am not a doctor. However, we form our opinions based on what we observe. It's not as though Mariah is going to discard her wardrobe at the suggestion of one, or opt for surgical procedures at the suggestion of another.
Listening to the remix, it's apparent that there may be some significant issues with her voice. Whether we choose to gloss over it is a separate matter.
Considering we're discussing Mariah Carey here, the legend, hearing her on a remix sounding like this is quite perplexing to me, that's all. I now understand why she probably hasn't released new music in a such a long time.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 15:29)
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,567)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I said this before and I'll say it again, let us leave the sentiments at constructive criticism and avoid giving out medical advice. She's in her 50s, there could be a lot of reasons why she would want to avoid a surgery. We don't know if there's any risk to her health. Also even if there are no risks to her health, we should not be telling her what procedures she needs to do. We're not doctors and if any of you are, you haven't treated her. Also just out of basic decency, it's a no no.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 11:47)
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Let's get it to number one (105,561)
by Edward from USA
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Both versions of the song are considered as one for charting purposes, with only the most popular version being displayed on the charts. This was the case with the Big Energy Remix; while it certainly boosted the original track's visibility, it didn't surpass its popularity. Consequently, Mariah's version didn't appear on the charts. It's not that she wasn't credited, she was, but the version she was credited for wasn't the most popular one.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 01:52)
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Let's get it to number one (105,549)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I was looking at the current Top 40 Mediabase Chart for radio impressions and the original version is sitting at #13. Is there a chance that the remix and original version will just be counted together for next week's Billboard Hot 100. Or will it have to be calculated like this?
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 21:09)
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,559)
by Edward from USA
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I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment. It's perplexing how even studio production couldn't conceal or refine her delivery on the "Yes, And?" remix. Your point about the microphone possibly capturing the true state of her voice makes sense. Considering this is the best she could come up with even with studio manipulations, it leaves me curious about the raw quality of her vocals. At this stage, when even her whistle register is lacking its usual brilliance, I believe it might be prudent for her to consider undergoing vocal nodule removal.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 01:43)
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,548)
by Terna from Nigeria
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The new song has been well received, which is good. However I have to be honest here, Mariah does not sound good on recording anymore. She can mask it in live performances, but in the studio, the microphone picks it up ever so easily - that metallic edge in her voice has gotten gravelly and more jarring as she has aged and her mid register is virtually impossible to access without pushing thus the hefty "shouty" belts, her singing now lacks a mix and fluidity key elements for the type of singer she is, with a repertoire that relies heavily on agility and the ease of singing she used to have. I know she's very much aware of this and this message is not in any means or way trying to disrespect her, or make fun of her, this comes from a place of absolute love. I respect the work she's done in music and acknowledge her contributions. However I do feel it's time Mariah considered vocal nodule surgery. At this point they have become obstructive and she cannot sing through or around them like she used to ("My All" comes to mind, you can really hear it on that song). I wish her only the best and a successful surgery should she choose to.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 21:00)
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Yes, And? lyrics (105,550)
by Edward from USA
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The good thing is that they usually release clean versions nowadays. In Mariah's defense though, she didn't write the cuss parts on the song.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 22:12)
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Yes, And? lyrics (105,545)
by Tevin from USA
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Sorry I don't agree with you. Some people like listening to songs around their young children. One of the reasons why I became a fan of Mariah was because my parents used to play her music all the time around me as I grew up. If she cussed up a storm back in the 90s and early 2000s, my parents would not have played her music around me and guess what, I probably would not have become a fan.
My point is, it's easy to look at it through adults eyes, but some people may not like to play explicit lyrics around their kids. Also (this isn't always the case), but I find more and more in today's music that lyrical content has become so lazy now that cussing and other explicitness can be freely said in music. There's one thing to have a strong emotion behind a song to use a cus word, there's a completely different reason to just be lazy and throw in words here and there, because you formulate a strong thought or emotion into a lyric. Basically what I'm saying is that many popular songs have lost their depth.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 18:25)
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"Yes" (105,544)
by Edward from USA
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The remix of '"Yes, and?' was released when the original single was already losing traction, making its impact minimal. Moreover, the remix fails to elevate the essence of the original. In my humble opinion, ccllaborating on this remix was a huge mistake, she should've reserved such a collaboration for different a project. I understand that many enjoy the remix, but I find myself surprised to admit that in this case Ariana's vocals outshines Mariah's. While Ariana exudes smoothness and effortlessness, Mariah sounds like a dying cat, to the point where even her signature whistle notes sound off. Crucify me if you want to.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 18:16)
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Not happy (105,461)
by Edward from USA
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It wouldn't be a remix, but a new completely song. Billboard remix rules changed more than a decade ago. This is the same song with some new vocals.
(Friday 16 February 2024; 05:24)
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by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I have a feeling it is resung with new lyrics and a sampled track. Why would Mimi agree to do it if it is not what she is known for when it comes to remixes? We will find out tonight at midnight.
(Thursday 15 February 2024; 12:11)
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Is that Mariah? (105,401)
by Edward from USA
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Mariah needs to break free from her comfort zone and embark on a journey of boldness and innovation. It's time for her own "Ray of Light" moment. The issue lies in the predictability of Mariah Carey's offerings. To truly make an impact, she must astonish the music scene with unexpected sounds and styles. Without this transformation, her next single/project may simply fade into obscurity.
(Wednesday 14 February 2024; 00:24)
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Mariah shoudn't (105,389)
by Edward from USA
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"Yes, And?" has lost its spark. Despite debuting at #1, it swiftly tumbled to #17 in its following week, and now faces a further decline, with predictions forecasting a drop to #24. Marked by a red bullet on the charts, its streaming and play counts have sharply declined.
Its initial debut at the top position can be attributed to the strategy of releasing seven slightly different versions at a discounted price, coupled with the intense longing of Ariana's fans for new music, who streamed the song relentlessly.
Considering the song's current state, Mariah would be wise to avoid joining a remix of a track that has already lost its appeal. Instead, she should focus her efforts on being involved in a fresh project from its inception.
(Monday 12 February 2024; 22:58)
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Beyonce (105,385)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I am sure MC knew of Beyonce's March release date. Beyonce has been very quiet lately. A late 3rd quarter release date for MC16 will probably be better now. Dua Lipa is dropping her album too sometime probably before June.
(Monday 12 February 2024; 20:53)
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Billboard Woman of the Year (105,333)
by Edward from USA
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Karol G is an AI Latina singer. Sometimes she goes by Karol P.
(Friday 9 February 2024; 18:09)
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Billboard Woman of the Year (105,331)
by TJ from Norway
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I'm clearly a dinosaur. Who is Karol G? Never heard that name before. Need to google.
(Friday 9 February 2024; 04:59)
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Billboard Woman of the Year (105,324)
by Edward from USA
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They are also talking about Woman of the Year. Mariah hasn't done much in years. That's either Taylor or Beyonce.
(Thursday 8 February 2024; 16:11)
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Billboard Woman of the Year (105,318)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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It's really tough to figure out. I will go with Queen B first then T- Swizzle. T-Pain gave Taylor her nickname. The only really that I wouldn't go with Mimi is because she has never done a stadium tour. I don't think her voice could hold up with all of the humidity during summer. Could MC sellout stadiums across the U.S. for a stadium tour?
(Thursday 8 February 2024; 01:37)
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Yes, And? (105,323)
by Edward from USA
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I don't blame Ariana, she's just playing the game. Mariah also played it like everybody else did back then, but things were different in terms of quality and value.
We had the Maxi Singles, The remixes that didn't resemble the originals, the discounted singles that were released when songs were at their peak in airplay.
Debuting at #1 was a rare feat, but now it doesn't mean much. Lil Nas X's Old Town Road trumped the One Sweet Day record by putting out many remixes that kept the song going.
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by Norman from USA
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It would've been top 10 without all the remixes. A top 10 debut used to be a big deal, it could've been top 5 even, and that would've been great too. But it's all BS now.
Megan got more sales than Ari without a dozen remixes. Yeah, she added some later, but not 12 or so. I really lost respect for Ari for that, even if it was her team. She knows damn well what they're doing.
I can't remember what publication had an article about how a #1 debut doesn't mean what it used to in the age of streaming. Especially when they drop like lead after the first week. Oh well. Hate the game, as they say.
(Thursday 8 February 2024; 06:50)
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Yes, And? (105,313)
by Edward from USA
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Ariana "Yes, and?" debuted at #1 but it has dropped to #17 and dropping on its second week and with a negative bullet. Do #1's mean anything anymore? When a song debuted a #1, it would hold its position for at least an extra week or it would stay in the top 5. Things have really changed.
(Wednesday 7 February 2024; 23:25)
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The Celebration Of Mimi (105,293)
by Edward from USA
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Don't be a negative Nancy. There's going to be some new music this year. Mariah is looking stunning, that's not a coincidence. She's definitely getting ready for something big.
(Tuesday 6 February 2024; 17:38)
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The Celebration Of Mimi (105,290)
by Nick G from Germany
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Really? I think there won't be a new album. MC makes money with shows, not with a new album. Maybe we'll get a new version of TEOM with unreleased songs like "When I feel it". It's always the same, every time you think there's something great new coming, there's just a perfume or some old stuff in a new dress.
(Tuesday 6 February 2024; 16:11)
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Video (105,254)
by Edward from USA
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Mariah lying on a couch looking at the camera while singing the new song would be epic and new.
(Sunday 4 February 2024; 22:17)
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Video (105,252)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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What kind of video would you like to be for a new single? Which director? Budget? I loved videos for Caution so I wouldn't mind that vibe.
(Sunday 4 February 2024; 21:12)
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Don't hate the player, hate the game (105,199)
by Edward from USA
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Ariana Grande's "Yes, And" debuted at #1. Out of her 8 #1's, 6 of them have debuted at number one, she now has a tie with Taylor Swift. Drake is behind them with 5. I've been wondering why it is so easy to debut at number one these days, I dug a little and now I understand. Similarly to what they accused Mariah and others of doing back in the 90's with remixes and discounted singles, now the trend is releasing six or seven variation of the same song and discounting the variations. These songs are not remixes technically, but different variations. Besides the original they release longer versions, radio edits, sped up versions, instrumentals and the list goes on. Mariah was heavily critized for similar tactics back in the day, but I actually prefer a great quality remix even if it doesn't resemble the original than this new trend. I think it is kind of lazy. Billboard will eventually crack on these tactics, but maybe by then Ariana, Taylor and Drake will have already surpassed Mariah as the solo artist with the most #1 hits. I don't hate the players, they're just taking advantage of the rules of the game just like Mariah did, but I hate the fact that now a number one doesn't really mean anything. As for Ariana's "Yes, And", I love it. I've been working out to it, I thought she had lost it, but she still has the Midas touch Mariah used to have.
(Thursday 1 February 2024; 17:39)
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Muni Long (105,175)
by Edward from USA
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Stacey, I think he's talking about Jeremy Mash, not Jermaine Dupri.
(Monday 29 January 2024; 21:12)
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Muni Long (105,174)
by Stacey from USA
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I love Jermaine. I could do with a bit less "ya'all know what this is". But there is no denying they created magic.
(Monday 29 January 2024; 20:43)
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