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Barbra and Mariah (108,144)
by Edward from USA
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I've already turned orange. Go figure.
(Saturday 8 February 2025; 17:38)
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Barbra and Mariah (108,141)
by Jamie from UK
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I'm tired of eating carrot. Give me the main meal.
(Saturday 8 February 2025; 13:30)
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Barbra and Mariah (108,143)
by Edward from USA
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Oh, please, stop acting like a victimized version of Mary Poppins. We all know the rules, and Eric has been more than fair to everyone here. Just be creative. I, for instance, use "effing" instead of dropping the actual Fbbomb. So don't be oversensitive, nobody is out there to get you. If you don't post much this year, that would leave only Robert-Anthony with unwavered positiviness here. Don't you dare.
I've already forgiven you for not sparing me the tired "She's a mother now".
(Saturday 8 February 2025; 17:37)
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Barbra and Mariah (108,139)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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I'm not going to post much this year, my stuff keeps getting censored. Y'all have fun.
(Saturday 8 February 2025; 12:00)
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Barbra and Mariah (108,140)
by Edward from USA
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Mariah is just 55. She doesn't have to release music that often, but at least a 6-track EP here and there would be appreciated. Nobody is being unreasonable.
(Saturday 8 February 2025; 13:04)
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Barbra and Mariah (108,137)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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True. I have been saying today if MC doesn't release an album in 2025, then we are not getting one at all. Caution will be her last studio album.
(Saturday 8 February 2025; 04:34)
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Barbra and Mariah (108,136)
by Edward from USA
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Streisand has recorded twice as many albums and toured far more extensively than Mariah. Yet, even when she completely stopped touring, she never neglected her core fanbase. Since the 2000s, she hasn't gone more than a few years without releasing an album, and she's 83, for heaven's sake. From 1963 to 1967, and again in 1971, she was releasing two albums a year. That's dedication.
It's not that Mariah's lost her artistry, her heart is just not in it anymore. She reminds me of someone who was once deeply passionate about their career but eventually became content with stepping away. And that's fine, but at least be honest about it. Instead, she's spent the last six years dangling a fat carrot in front of us.
Where is the freaking music? And please, spare me the tired "she's a mother now" excuse.
(Saturday 8 February 2025; 02:16)
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Barbra and Mariah (108,135)
by jaker20 from US
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Barbra: 36 studio albums, 12 compilations, and 15 soundtracks
Mariah: 15 studio albums, 6 compilations. 0 soundtracks
Do you see where I'm going here? 2 years later, the album she's saying already have 5 songs done, and she still can't finish it. And now Barbra, who is 82 is releasing another album, while Mariah is doing Vegas with no new song, not even a collab, a remix, or anything.
It is so annoying that every single year, after very Christmas peaks, she can't come up with something, anything. Annoying and sad really. Forget voice or anything, I don't think she's got artistry left anymore tbh. Voice can be layered, remixed and be done with studio work. Artistry you can't, that's really what's she's lost.
(Friday 7 February 2025; 23:10)
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Please (108,133)
by Edward from USA
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When Celine and Barbra recorded "Tell Him", Barbra was 55, same age as Mariah is now, but she gave Celine a run for her money. I know it's a different time and context, but I had hoped Mariah would be at a similar vocal level now. Given that Barbra is almost 83 and Mariah's voice is what it is, the duet will likely be very subdued. Let's hope for the best.
(Friday 7 February 2025; 04:51)
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by Robert-Anthony from United States
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Her album is going to be filled with pop standards that will be radio friendly. I am thinking the Barbara/Mariah/Ariana duet will be radio friendly like her Tell Him duet with Celine.
(Friday 7 February 2025; 02:43)
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Please (108,131)
by Edward from USA
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I hope her duet with Barbra isn't similar to her duet with Tony Bennett "When Do The Bells Ring for Me".
(Thursday 6 February 2025; 14:01)
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Article: Barbra Streisand new album will feature song with Mariah (108,123)
by Edward from USA
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That's a one I didn't see coming. I'm actually excited.
(Wednesday 5 February 2025; 14:29)
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Really? (108,112)
by Edward from USA
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Not only did Beyonce win Best Country Album, but she also took home Country Album of the Year, an absolute travesty. Even she seemed shocked to receive the award. The Grammys have become a complete joke. What's next, Best Fart of the Year? Give me fat effing break.
(Wednesday 5 February 2025; 00:57)
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The Grammys (108,110)
by Edward from USA
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I would never put Beyonce in the same sentence with Mariah or Whitney, they simply can't be compared. I think people like Beyonce because she has maintained a polished public image, she's likable, and she has some good songs too. When it comes to her Grammy wins, it's astonishing to think that she has more than Mariah and Whitney combined, it just doesn't add up. One thing is undeniable though: Beyonce is a phenomenal entertainer.
(Tuesday 4 February 2025; 17:12)
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The Grammys (108,107)
by Tameka walker from United states
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I do agree with you. I heard she has people that write for her and she doesn't give them their credit. I think she is over rated and she is not as gifted as a singer as Mariah or songwriter when it comes to songwriting and singing that's all Mariah. Mariah can't sing like she used to but in her prime Mariah was a force to be reckoned with, her and Whitney. Beyoncé only got that album of the year because [Jay Z] moaned and complained at last year Grammys. When Beyonce first started her solo career it seemed like she couldn't do anything without [Jay] from [Crazy in love] to Dejuve, she have had some good songs but she is not as good as Whitney or Mariah. Those women had some phenomenal voices in their prime. Beyoncé to me is just okay that is it. Another I would like to add is that she is no Michael Jackson either. Michael was. On some other level to me she isn't on I got all of Whitney. Mariah and Michael. I brought [Dangerously in love] and B Day I have only brought like 3 [Beyonce] albums and it was only 3 to 3 songs on each that I liked. With the other three I liked the majority of the songs and I feel like Mariah has always been robbed by the Grammys if you can give Beyonce all those Grammys you can give Mariah some too. To me I think the Grammys lost their credibility.
(Tuesday 4 February 2025; 14:29)
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Covers compilation album (108,104)
by Edward from USA
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It truly is. I waited 4 hours to be in the audience, but it was worth it. It was magical.
(Tuesday 4 February 2025; 11:55)
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Covers compilation album (108,103)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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With You I am Born Again with John Legend, live, is an absolute legendary performance.
(Tuesday 4 February 2025; 10:46)
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The Grammys (108,100)
by Edward from USA
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Beyonce is highly overrated, much like Alicia Keys was at her peak.
(Tuesday 4 February 2025; 00:37)
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by TJ from Norway
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I believe that if Beyonce dropped an album with no music on, she still win some awards.
(Monday 3 February 2025; 18:12)
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A bit harsh (108,093)
by Edward from USA
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Stating facts isn't negativity. Unfortunately, in today's world, simply acknowledging reality can be seen as offensive. I never said Mariah's voice is gone, I said "the voice as we knew it", as in the one we fell in love with, is gone forever. And to be clear, I'm not even referring to her '90s voice. If we're being truly honest, setting aside our love for her and her music, it's undeniable her voice being reduced to about 25% of what it was.
Performing isn't just about dancing, it's about commanding the stage. These days, they wrap her up in extravagant gowns like a tamale, and she just stands there, barely moving, almost as if she's in a daze while people mop the floor around her.
That said, I'm still a fan and excited for whatever she has in store. As I mentioned, I'd love "The Rarities II". I'll always support her, but I simply don't enjoy her live performances anymore. I made my peace with that so I don't even look for them. If you do, that's great, enjoy them as much as you like.
(Monday 3 February 2025; 17:01)
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A bit harsh (108,090)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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It's a bit harsh to say that her voice is gone, come on, have some respect. Her voice is still here, obviously with some struggles, but it is still there. Regarding the stage presence - we don't know what is she going through or if she is just catching the momentum.
Feeling sad watching her old videos? Come on, you should be happy for them and enjoy them. We were lucky to be alive in the same time as she was and be able to enjoy them and her talent.
I swear to God, sometimes I get so mad with the negativity here.
(Monday 3 February 2025; 12:26)
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Vegas show 2025 (108,086)
by Edward from USA
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I completely agree with you, Jamie. It pains me to accept that the voice we once knew is gone forever. That's why I no longer enjoy her live performances, not out of hate, but because it brings a sense of sadness. The whistle register was the last piece of her vocal magic, but now it sounds flat and unpleasant.
Honestly, I'm more excited about The Rarities II than anything else at this point. It has dawned on me that Mariah hasn't recorded anything in six years, likely because she can no longer deliver decent vocals, even in the studio. It's truly heartbreaking.
That said, I'm deeply grateful for the incredible legacy and discography she has left us. When she was at her best, she was truly in a league of her own.
At this point, I just want to celebrate one last victory, her reclaiming the record for the song with the most weeks at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100. If nothing else, it's a testament to her enduring impact on music history.
(Monday 3 February 2025; 02:22)
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Vegas show 2025 (108,084)
by Jamie from UK
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She sounds ok, not sure it's making me want to go watch her again though. I've been lucky enough to watch her numerous times over the years. I'm more looking for what magic she can create in the studio these days. I hate to say it but from the clips I've seen it's made me think "give it up" and I never ever thought I would think that about Mariah. Maybe it's just the amateur clips not showing the full experience of being there. This is not me being hateful in anyway. I've always loved Mariah, but from the girl I once knew it's hard for me to hear her changed voice live. After I listened to a few clips I closed YouTube and my Apple Music kicked back in with Alone In Love playing and that's what gives me chills, the voice that was. I pray she gives us a great next album though and I'm proven wrong as she is a legend.
(Sunday 2 February 2025; 23:11)
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Circus (108,044)
by Edward from USA
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I'm glad Mariah didn't take part in the celebrity circus this elections turned out to be. I guess they got the memo nobody cares what they think.
(Friday 24 January 2025; 15:24)
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Music Box 30 (108,043)
by Edward from USA
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Robert-Anthony, I'm so glad people are finally fed up with cancel culture. It's like we're been policed for about anything we say. What happened to the Dixie Chicks should never happen again, regardless of your political leanings. Carrie slayed, period. I would love for someone to ask Snoop Dogg in his face why he performed, he would obliterate them. When you talk at people instead of talking to them, you realize why things happened the way they did. And I'm a Democrat, not a radical one though.
(Friday 24 January 2025; 14:59)
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Music Box 30 (108,041)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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Steve, it was just an innocent post about Carrie Underwood's performance and how she came out on top. There was nothing political about the post. Can we move past 2024? There are great things to look forward to in 2025 and beyond like MC's long awaited new music, the MCA family is growing, the first new daytime soap opera in 25 years, Beyond The Gates debuts on CBS in one month, Finn is Luna father on B&B, and I am moving back to the Atl this summer.
(Friday 24 January 2025; 02:50)
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Music Box 30 (108,033)
by Edward from USA
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An a cappella pre-recorded track? She has a few of those?
(Wednesday 22 January 2025; 22:21)
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Music Box 30 (108,031)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I have to agree with Brandon. But it would be really nice if Mariah surprises us with a confident acapella version in the future. Or just a live version of a new song. Maybe on an event which is not watched by so many people around the world. That the pressure wouldn't be so high.
(Wednesday 22 January 2025; 13:22)
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A look back at: My MC 2015 fantasy wish list (48,007) #1 to #5 (108,014)
by Edward from USA
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Just tell you can fulfill their "Sweet Sweet Fantasy, baby".
(Monday 20 January 2025; 13:42)
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A look back at: My MC 2015 fantasy wish list (48,007) #1 to #5 (108,013)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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Really, I didn't know that. I should play around with the functions of the website more. Lol. Dating should be easier once I get back to the Atl.
(Monday 20 January 2025; 12:10)
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A look back at: My MC 2015 fantasy wish list (48,007) #1 to #5 (108,010)
by Edward from USA
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Robert-Anthony, to view all the messages you've posted, simply navigate to your profile. At the bottom, you'll find your posts listed in chronological order. It may take some time, to scroll back to 2014 in your case, but possible. For those who post infrequently or haven't posted in years, the process is much quicker.
And remember, my dear Rob, as the wise old Chinese saying goes: "You must keep those pipes clean regularly, let them sit too long, and things might get a little... backed up and messy." Of course, finding a boyfriend who's a plumber would be the perfect hands-on solution.
(Sunday 19 January 2025; 16:53)
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A look back at: My MC 2015 fantasy wish list (48,007) #1 to #5 (108,008)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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How did you retrieve a MCA post from 2014? Do you keep an online Mariah book? Lol. I have been compiling my paper Mariah book since 2004. Edward said I need a boyfriend. Lol. Just having fun on this boring Saturday night waiting on the snow apocalypse to pass through Texas on Monday night.
(Sunday 19 January 2025; 03:03)
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by Edward from USA
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I think most people here have moved past the delusional idea that Mariah just needs a three-month break and a bunch of earpieces to deliver vocally. Let's face it, we've all seen that her voice isn't just different, it's deteriorating faster than normal. Like you and many others, I noticed the shift back then and how her voice was never quite the same after that. But honestly, at this point, rather than sounding like a broken record, it feels more like preaching to the choir. There is no one more blind than the one who refuses to see.
I agree with you that Mariah doesn't really need a record label anymore. The cost of producing an album probably outweighs what they'd make from it. Instead, like you said, she should focus on something like a documentary. It would be amazing for her to show us the side of her that people rarely get to see, something deeper than the "diva" image she's known for.
I'll admit I missed some belting on Caution, but I still enjoyed the album overall. At this point, she doesn't need to pretend in the studio, she just needs to work with what she's got. I'm not sure what's taking her so long, though, it's been six years. But oh well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. 
(Saturday 18 January 2025; 21:58)
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by Randy from USA
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I always try to remember what Special K said to me once when I was going hard on Mariah's deception, "What what you have her do?" Honestly, at this point everyone likes documentaries. So, maybe something about the voice with a doctor telling her on camera, "If you keep on pushing this, you'll never sing again." And that being the catalyst for a change in her arrangements and her new sound. Don't address the past 28 years, which by the way there are tons of dissertations and dissections on MCs voice that I am now discovering on YouTube and RIP TikTok. Some of which are hours long. This board used to make me feel alone for my rants about the voice and now I realize, I'm not crazy. Other people knew what was going on all along since that fateful day on Oprah in 1997 when she lip synced all but the end of the song Butterfly. That was unlike anything we had ever seen MC do. But here's the time for Terna and LibraLamb to say I am a broken record or ranting. I know. I know. Don't address you if I wasn't sent for. MC doesn't need any label exec or manager to get her a hit. She needs an undeniable song and concept. I like Cher's Believe a lot. MC needs a song that everyone will like across all formats and we will have another hit. For as much as I have been hard on MC over the last 28 years, I acknowledge time, I know two things. #1 People generally like her even if they are laughing at her at times. #2 You never count her out.
(Saturday 18 January 2025; 21:13)
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A little paranoid? Maybe (108,004)
by Edward from USA
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We can all speculate, even Mariah. But let's be honest, if she had any actual evidence that her idea was stolen, she would've said something. Don't get me wrong, I have a huge problem with people stealing or acting in bad faith toward someone else's work, like what Tommy did with the Firecracker sample situation. But what I'm not going to do is start blaming people for something that Mariah herself didn't seem entirely sure about.
And honestly, sitting on an idea for too long can backfire. It's like what happened to my brother, he took his sweet time perfecting his concept for a device, and then, a year later, someone else came out with the same thing. There was nothing he could do about it. A great idea is just that, but if someone else gets there first, the rest is history.
Unlike you, who defended Stella with tooth and nail, I try to stay objective when it comes to Mariah. Being her fan doesn't mean I'm blind to reality. Most likely, she sat too long on whatever idea she had, and someone else came up with something similar. It happens to a lot of people. Just because Mariah feels a certain way doesn't mean I automatically agree with her without proof. The Firecracker sample situation? That was solid, tangible evidence. But "this unnamed person stole my idea" situation? Not so much.
(Saturday 18 January 2025; 21:26)
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A little paranoid? Maybe (108,002)
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Basically you take no issue with whomever leaked, shares or gossips anything someone they came up with and wants to keep for themselves because someone like Mariah "took too long" to use it herself? How would you know in what stage MC was in to justify being robbed like that? That's a weird argument because any project worthwhile is gonna take some time to plan and execute - especially a collaborative effort like a concept album.
Well, as long as you're open about it with the people you hang around - so they know not to divulge any of their intellectual property when you're within listening range, it's all good. I guess a lot of people consider any information they come across to be communal property. I don't, on principle but also because I've been personally affected, under different circumstances and in a completely different industry. It feels shitty just the same.
You sign NDAs to protect yourself and trust people you don't know have ulterior motives and in the end you sometimes have to just swallow the betrayal both personally and professionally. I make sure to record both audio and video now as well as a paper trail. It hasn't failed me yet. Highly recommend.
Taylor Swift grew up on her grandparents Christmas tree farm and has to endure Mariah Carey being everywhere for her entire birthday month (and then some) breaking records and racking up #1's, year after year with AIWFCIY. Even when MC "loses", she wins bigger. Don't you just love that?
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A little paranoid? Maybe (108,000)
by Edward from USA
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Mariah didn't really make it seem like someone deliberately stole her idea or pulled a "J.Lo" on her. She kind of shrugged it off, implying that her idea probably got leaked by people she had shared it with. Then, not long after, someone else came out with something similar. What I think happened was that Mariah took too long working on her album and, in the meantime, someone else probably came with a similar idea. The only major standout from that era was Beyoncé's Visual Album, which dropped as a surprise overnight. We'll never know for sure, but maybe wasn't the visual album part, but definitely the surprise-release angle.
Let's be real, Mariah's been kind of paranoid ever since the whole J.Lo stolen sample drama. What's interesting, though, is that after Mariah was vindicated, they talked about and squashed it. Mariah hinted that Jennifer was just a pawn in the whole situation, and honestly, I believe her. Back then, Jennifer probably didn't know much about sampling or how shady the industry could be. But when Mariah went on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen and said she didn't know J.Lo, that totally caught me off guard and let me know Mariah never let it go.
(Saturday 18 January 2025; 17:52)
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That's what I call someone being real and having respect for her audience. She's had a long and celebrated career.
(Friday 17 January 2025; 13:29)
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I just saw that Cher is releasing her last album. She says there comes a time when the voice of no longer fit for singing, my voice is not the same. And she's trying to record the album as quickly as possible. I thought this was very honest of Cher to admit almost similar to Jon Bon Jovi admitting his voice isn't the same. It takes a strong person to admit something that is your trademark and what [you're] known for. Good luck to Cher.
(Friday 17 January 2025; 10:32)
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My observation (107,983)
by Edward from USA
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"Immediacy and instant gratification." Sadly but true.
(Friday 17 January 2025; 04:03)
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This new era is all about immediacy and instant gratification. All the struggles we are suffering is the price we have to pay.
(Friday 17 January 2025; 01:54)
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by Edward from USA
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Robert-Anthony, we've talked about this before, straighten that picture before I need motion sickness pills.
(Sunday 12 January 2025; 22:29)
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Missing studio pics solved (107,967)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I am trying to be optimistic. If we don't get a new single by June or July, I don't think a new album is coming again this year.
(Sunday 12 January 2025; 20:56)
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by Edward from USA
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Mariah lost her mind like someone had just swapped her Louis Vuitton heels for a pair of knockoff flip-flops. As if the average listener could actually tell the difference between the version that got released and the one she wanted. But that was the perfectionist version of Mariah minus a pill or two.
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Haha I think even as a lamb that would have been too much for me. It baffles me why a story teller like Mariah has such weak videos. Speaking of JD, I am reminded of the Facebook TAOLG release and how it ended up being the wrong version and Mariah wrote her iconic "I'm on the bathroom floor" meltdown post.
(Saturday 11 January 2025; 05:56)
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