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Webmaster request (109,815)
by Edward from USA
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Sorry, but your posts are now part of MCArchives Messageboard history, a permanent digital glitter trail, if you will. So even if you don't want to be associated with us anymore, your posts will always be here, forever moisturized, never deleted, and archived like Mariah's 90s whistle notes.
Now, anytime we scroll through those iconic threads, we'll fondly reminisce about the old days when you were here.
One thing though, and I'm dead serious, if you go, you can never twerk with us again.
(Saturday 19 July 2025; 01:19)
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Webmaster request (109,814)
by Brad from USA
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Hi. Please delete my account, profile and postings as I do not wish to have any association with this site any longer. Thank you.
(Friday 18 July 2025; 20:53)
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The problem with Brad and hating ass hoes (109,810)
by Edward from USA
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I know you have a lot of feelings, but you don't even go here.
(Friday 18 July 2025; 17:00)
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The problem with Brad and hating ass hoes (109,808)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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Yes, this board is (with capital letters) very unfriendly but only from one clique that is constantly diminishing love towards Mariah from others who, according to them, are not worthy to be her fan just because they don't have the latest info on anything similar regarding her career.
I literally joined here somewhere back in 2006 exactly because of that, to be informed, to read the news, to get the latest "411", to feel seen and accepted since no one was into Mariah amongst my group of friends.
In my part of world, we only got general info but I wanted more. I learned here so much and always refreshed the page to see if something new came up. I didn't came here to see insults, constant shade, outwitting and similar behavior.
Loving ass hoe from Croatia.
(Friday 18 July 2025; 14:19)
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Pitbull (109,764)
by Edward from USA
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I'm naming my pitbull "Type Dangerous".
(Wednesday 16 July 2025; 03:27)
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Visionof Love, The Bill of Rights (109,757)
by Edward from USA
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Thanks, Bobby A.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 18:20)
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Visionof Love, The Bill of Rights (109,746)
by Bobby A from United States
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Edward, I like your new photo. When MC releases MC16, I am going to add my photo again. Anyway, MC could sell millions if she released her demo tape on vinyl just as Tommy heard it for the first time. The CD version could be packaged with The First Vision home video on DVD. I wonder if any AR executive at Sony has thought about doing it.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 04:55)
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Visionof Love, The Bill of Rights (109,743)
by Edward from USA
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Reading about the history of the VOL, I think Bill is right. The song was the first one Mariah and Ben Margulies Margulies wrote together right after she got signed to Columbia. The demo in the video is actually what they presented to Tommy for her debut.
In his book, Hitmaker, Tommy explained that while Mariah was clearly a brilliant singer and songwriter, he knew that she and Ben didn't have the production experience to fully shape a major label debut album. He respected what they had created but felt it was too big of a project to leave solely in their hands. Tommy gave them a shot, but after months they hadn't accomplished much. So he brought in top producers like Narada Michael Walden, Ric Wake and Walter Afanasieff (at the end) to help elevate the material and production.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 02:09)
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Vision of Love (109,735)
by Edward from USA
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Are you reprimanding Bill? Just because he was like totally wrong. Please don't do it again.
(Monday 14 July 2025; 19:42)
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Vision of Love (109,732)
by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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Are you sure? According to several sources, Vision of Love was part of the original demo tape.
(Monday 14 July 2025; 16:31)
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New album (109,708)
by Edward from USA
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Bobby A, Mariah is a legacy artist, just like many others were when she was on her prime. MC16 will probably come and go like "Caution" did. No matter how many appearances she makes, it won't make much of a difference. To be fair, she was promoting consistently when TD came out and, lipped or not, she put on a great and energetic performance at Summertime Ball in the UK. Other than her legacy fans, meaning us, nobody is out there craving new music from her. Her streaming numbers are an indication of what's going on, 2.5M in a month after a 7-year hiatus. As I stated before, unless she comes out with a banger featuring a big name like Bruno Mars, Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Ariana Grande, Sabrina Carpenter or Taylor Swift, don't expect chart success. Always remember though that chart success does not necessarily a great album make. Enjoy the music. Winter is coming.
(Sunday 13 July 2025; 07:36)
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New album (109,704)
by Bobby A from United States
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I think after TD didn't perform like MC and Gamma had hoped they are trying to regroup and come up with another plan to launch the album. August is almost here and it will be September 1st before we know it and it seems promos have stalled waiting for TD to become Touch My Body in 2025. I analyzed album roll out plans and promos for several artists who have albums coming out in August with a definite release date and most have been on various TV programs promoting their new albums. I think Gamma is going about rolling out MC16 all wrong. I hope with the 2nd single rollout that MC is on as many TV programs that she can make an appearance on and start promoting her new album. Just my two cents this weekend.
(Sunday 13 July 2025; 03:14)
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The remixes (109,701)
by Edward from USA
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Had the remixes been released simultaneously with the original, TD would've charted way higher. At least two of the remixes are better than the original.
(Saturday 12 July 2025; 20:12)
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Unpopular opinion - alternate universe (109,689)
by Edward from USA
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Welcome to the Twilight Zone, my dear. You've just stepped into the alternate-twin-universe version of the MCArchives Messageboard, where logic takes naps, reason time-travels, fetch did happen, Mariah made up the word emblazoned and the webmaster might actually be your cat. Be careful, things are not what they seem in here.
(Saturday 12 July 2025; 04:50)
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Unpopular opinion - alternate universe (109,688)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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This is not an alternate universe; it's another galaxy/Borg planet/something.
(Saturday 12 July 2025; 02:19)
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Unpopular opinions (109,658)
by Edward from USA
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I think "Hero" is not only about a specific element, but a combination of things, one of them being the moment in which it was released. More than the lyrics, which are as cheesy as Regina's cheese fries, it's Mariah's then persona, relevance and delivery that give it that extra punch. The song wouldn't work if it were released today with what's left of her voice and the detached from reality diva persona she's assumed since 2009. To judge and understand Hero, you really have to put it in the context of when it came out. For most, if you weren't part of that time, you probably won't get it. I was a mere 2-year toddler, but I still remember that iconic statuesque princess-like figure singing it passionately and effortlessly at the Proctor's Theatre and the guy from the audience reaching multiple eargasms. It was simply epic
(Wednesday 9 July 2025; 19:42)
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Unpopular opinions (109,657)
by Haiji from United States
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Regarding only songs or albums, what are some unpopular opinions you all got? "Hero" still hasn't grown on me yet. "Thank God I Found You" was not #1 worthy and based on how many song I listen to from each album, Caution is my least favorite.
(Wednesday 9 July 2025; 16:34)
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Album titles (109,656)
by Edward from USA
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Mariah keeps trying to make "Oh Santa" happen, it's not going to happen. It's like she threw everything on it hoping something would stick.
(Wednesday 9 July 2025; 15:39)
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Album titles (109,655)
by Jamie from UK
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Hahaha I'm lol at Oh Santa that song is just far too busy.
(Wednesday 9 July 2025; 03:18)
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Dangerous | three hating ass heauxs - they don't know the meaning of water nor soap (109,634)
by Edward from USA
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Salma Hayek is a very beautiful woman. Not even in her worst day she would look like those three hatin' ass hoes.
(Saturday 5 July 2025; 17:12)
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Dangerous | three hating ass heauxs - they don't know the meaning of water nor soap (109,633)
by Dove from United States
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The third hatin' ass ho looked like Salma Hayek to me when she was on the Mexican telenovela Teresa. But Salma Hayek doesn't seem like a hatin' ass ho, so it's probably a coincidence.
(Saturday 5 July 2025; 14:26)
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Album title (109,624)
by Edward from USA
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I was thinking about album titles and I had an epiphany. These would be great titles: 1. "16 Octaves, 12 High Notes and 0 Phucks to Give" 2. "I Don't Know Her (But this Album Knows All Your Secrets)" 3. "Reprimanded" 4. "Mermaid Tears, Butterfly Wings, and a Grammy I Deserved in 1996"
(Saturday 5 July 2025; 05:40)
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Heavy songs (109,620)
by Edward from USA
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She missed her mid-terms and flunked shampoo.
(Saturday 5 July 2025; 03:16)
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Heavy songs (109,617)
by Bill from the UK
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Oh is Mariah a beauty school drop out? She's never mentioned it.
(Saturday 5 July 2025; 01:20)
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Heavy songs (109,611)
by Edward from USA
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Bobby A, holding up on revealing the album title actually builds anticipation. TD is pretty much a thing of the past now. The info we got was more than enough: the album's finished, it'll have 11-12 tracks, a new summery single is coming soon and we're getting at least one big ballad. Remember that gluttony and greed are two of the seven deadly sins.
(Friday 4 July 2025; 16:54)
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Heavy songs (109,605)
by Bobby A from United States
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Getting the album title from MC is where Nate and Ebro failed during the Apple interview. I don't understand why she just didn't reveal the title during the interview. It is not like another artist is going to steal the title for their new album. I feel it is going to be a one or two word title that she has titled her most her successful albums. Plus, I feel L.A. Reid and Larry Jackson has some new music industry tricks up their sleeves if MC just plays her cards right and listens to both men. I believe she is listening this time. The Grammy and Rock and Hall of Fame stakes are higher because she wants them take to notice of her work in 2026.
(Friday 4 July 2025; 15:47)
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New single soon (109,607)
by Edward from USA
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I always thought #Beautiful was a solid song, but it felt like it was missing something, maybe a bridge or a little extra punch. Now, the remix with Jeezy was imply great to me. That high note around the 3-minute mark? Pure heaven.
(Friday 4 July 2025; 16:03)
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New single soon (109,598)
by Jamie from UK
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I never really got #Beautiful. I was disappointed when it was released, I didn't get the hype around it. Whilst I don't dislike it it's not a song I go to.
(Friday 4 July 2025; 09:09)
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One Heart, One Voice (109,585)
by Edward from USA
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Eric is the webmaster, my dear. Proceed with extreme "Caution". The last person who crossed him woke up in Indiana with no memory of how they got there. Others, like Bobby A, weren’t so lucky, they came back with shorter names.
(Thursday 3 July 2025; 17:35)
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One Heart, One Voice (109,584)
by Lambi from USA
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I don't recall reprimanding an Eric but that doesn't mean I didn't. Bobby A, solid. Mimi L, impeccable. TJ, good. Zachariah, very good. Sascha, also very good. And Edward, you've been good too. You may now exhale (but I'm watching all of you).
(Thursday 3 July 2025; 16:56)
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One Heart, One Voice (109,581)
by Edward from USA
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What are you complaining about? Eric was also reprimanded. Now I'm nervous, only Bobby A is safe.
(Thursday 3 July 2025; 12:32)
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One Heart, One Voice (109,579)
by Bill from the UK
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Haha, honestly Stacey all I could do was laugh out loud. A reprimand was warranted indeed. I might add that to my bio on this site: Reprimanded in July 2025 by Lambi (warranted).
(Thursday 3 July 2025; 08:31)
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Lullaby of Birdland* (109,538)
by Edward from USA
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Mariah stated herself that she never recorded LOB in the studio. While "The Art of Letting Go" was leaked as an upcoming album on some places like Walmart, it was just the name. There not any other leaks that mentioned LOB before she performed live.
(Monday 30 June 2025; 01:44)
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Lullaby of Birdland* (109,528)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
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Just a random question about this song. In 2013 when Mariah was about to release The Art of Letting Go album, the tracklisting that leaked had this song on it together with You're Mine, You Don't Know What, Supernatural etc, so I know that leak was legit. Then the album was postponed and this song was not on the album but Mariah performed it on her tour in 2014. Later this song was released as live version taken from her concert on The Rarities. So my question is, do you think Mariah had a hidden album version of this song somewhere in the vault? It would be nice to hear a studio version.
(Sunday 29 June 2025; 16:06)
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Three voices, one problem (109,533)
by Edward from USA
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Lyrics got written, music was produced and then a demo was made. Barbra most likely recorded the entire song by herself. Then, the parts that Ariana and Mariah were meant to sing were stripped from the demo and sent for them to fill in the blanks. Of course the original demo was also sent to use as reference. Then, Walter later stitched it all together.
So no, these ladies were never in the studio at the same time. It's pretty standard these days and even easier with technology. Mariah prefers laying her vocals alone with her recording engineer. Ariana lays her vocals in a completely dark booth.
Could this be considered as a Mariah and Walter collabo? No, in my humble opinion. In 99% of their collabos, Mariah wrote the lyrics and had the melody in her head, then Walter would put that melody into music and produced it.
(Sunday 29 June 2025; 21:19)
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Three voices, one problem (109,526)
by Shezz from Pk
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That's exactly how it went according to Barbra in a recent interview. They all recorded their parts separately and then it was put together. How does that even work I sometimes try to imagine. All 3 sing all of it then their parts are picked or they just sing their assigned parts? Sounds like there's no room for any synergy of energies there.
I don't fault Mariah here at all. She did not write the lyrics, the melody, nothing. Did the best she could with her voice. I don't think this is any indication of MC16 whatsoever.
Not a bad song but it could have soared. Mariah should have been in charge of writing and producing it but I suppose with Walter in charge that was not really an option.
(Sunday 29 June 2025; 14:20)
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One Heart, One Voice (109,510)
by Edward from USA
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I want my mp3 back, I want my mp3 back.
(Saturday 28 June 2025; 01:49)
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One Heart, One Voice (109,495)
by Randy from USA
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I don't like it. Here's the thing. I knew it would be a ballad from the 90s. I knew it would feel "crowded". And I do think it's genius how he interchanged them throughout the verses. I am a Mariah Carey fan and what's most important to me is a lyric. Then the vocal. Then the arrangement. The lyrics are both banal and generic. It's not a song that needed to be written. It's been written before. I feel as though this is one of the songs sung before a Super Bowl national anthem with young girls from around the world tryna count steps with lame choreography. It belongs at the end of a really bad movie where the credits are more entertaining than the plot. My favorite person on this board woke me up out my sleep with a text for this? It's just Another Trite Hope Song rackin my brain like crazy.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 16:40)
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One Heart, One Voice (109,480)
by Edward from USA
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I'm pleasantly surprised, "One Heart, One Voice" is very smooth, their voices blend together well. Different from the "Yes, And?" fiasco, this collabo works. At 83, Barbra sounds amazing.
(Thursday 26 June 2025; 23:36)
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The duet (109,478)
by Edward from USA
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Less then 24 hours before we get to her "One Heart, One Love".
(Thursday 26 June 2025; 20:10)
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The music (109,468)
by Edward from USA
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Guys, it's 2025, enjoy the music. Chart positions don't define greatness anymore. Mariah had an unmatched prime, let's celebrate that. We're blessed to have experienced "The Voice" at its glory, and that's something truly special. Mariah's a one in a lifetime experience.
I don't know about y'all, but I feel lucky to have experienced her greatness. Most artists on the charts aren't even close to her level. Maybe it's the wine talking but I'm at peace with everything she's given us. It's been an incredible ride.
Remember that no matter how great, nobody stays at the top forever.
(Wednesday 25 June 2025; 22:57)
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35 years in the game (109,434)
by Edward from USA
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Bobby A, unfortunately, Mariah has her age working against her in today's music scene. For something to really take off as per some people's expectations here, she would have to pull a "Believe" moment like Cher did. I personally like and appreciate what we've gotten so far, but "TD" is not that moment.
With short attention spans these days and everything being so instantly accessible, a song has to hit right away to make an impact. It's a different game now.
Being a legacy artist doesn't help much either. Radio rarely supports older artists, a song from them would have to be twice as great as the next one. There's no real formula for a hit, even great music can flop. At the end of the day, it all depends on whether the general public connects with it, especially the younger crowd who drive most of the streaming. The music needs to feel current and cool to them.
I've said it before, Mariah helped so many people when she was on top. It's time for a big name to return the favor and boost one of her projects. She deserves it.
(Sunday 22 June 2025; 17:40)
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35 years in the game (109,432)
by Bobby A from United States
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I am sure MC and L.A. Reid have listened to what she has sequenced so far and he probably has suggested that MC return back to the studio and record some more songs. What if TD was a test single to guage how listeners would react. I give their reaction a 7, but a 10 is needed to launch MC16. I found it odd that we didn't find out the album title and release date on June 6th if she was sequencing the album.
(Sunday 22 June 2025; 14:48)
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