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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,839)
by Edward from USA
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Probably "My All" was the theme song for a high-budget epic movie that the Evil King personally shelved the moment Mariah freed herself from the castle. Nothing is impossible... at all (unnecessary sustained high note here).
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 16:11)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,838)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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The Titanic-themed My All video? Where is it Titanic themed? Serious question. There is a shell, a lighthouse, a male model and Mariah who's also looking like a top model.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 14:55)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,830)
by Edward from USA
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If she kept it simple, without over-embellishment or too many melisma monents, she had the perfect voice for a movie theme song somewhere between "Mariah Carey" and "Music Box". I think "MHWGO" would've been a piece of cake for Mariah, vocally.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 03:38)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,825)
by Bill from the UK
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Mariah's voice is a bit too nuanced to deliver a movie song in my view. Celine's voice is perfect for theme tunes because it remains in the same vocal tone constantly but crescendos when it needs to. Same for Whitney to a degree. Mariah's voice has so many facets and intricacies and layers to it that I don't think it would work. The closest she came to that style was probably Hero.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 23:41)
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Mariah singing at the Oscar (112,829)
by Edward from USA
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I agree, sadly that ship has sailed.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 03:21)
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Mariah singing at the Oscar (112,827)
by TJ from Norway
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That would have been lovely back in 1996. Let the young artist do that job. She doesn't have to prove anything like that these days. She was the queen of the 90's and no one could ever take that away from her. If I was MC, I think I would just enjoy life without all the fuss these days. I like the fact that Cameron Diaz just stepped out of the lime light, to live her life.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 02:19)
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Olympics - Nothing is Impossible (112,816)
by Edward from USA
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Mariah didn't exactly "switch gears". She was already in the movie in a low-key, unglamorous role, and "100%" was written for the film itself, not really as a big theme song. The soundtrack ended up being built around Mary J. Blige's "I Can See in Color", which fit the movie's tone and became the official theme. Since "100%" wasn't part of the soundtrack, Mariah later used it for the Olympics, where its message about resilience and empowerment made way more sense.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 15:18)
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Olympics - Nothing is Impossible (112,809)
by Lambi from USA
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I'm freaking dead. Sure, initially it was for Precious, but Mariah quickly switched gears once she realized how perfectly it suited the competition. NBC didn't accidentally use it, they selected it because it worked for Olympic storytelling: perseverance, excellence, giving everything. It definitively became for the Olympics. Literally watch the music video, it has b-rolls of Olympic athletes.
It was essentially repurposed, just like Through the Rain and Make It Happen during COVID. But of course, Edward is always so eager to nitpick the tiniest technicality that he completely misses the broader point: Mariah has the perfect songs for every occasion.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 13:57)
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I dreamt the strangest dream (112,815)
by Edward from USA
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Another one for the Burn Book. Lol.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 14:58)
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I dreamt the strangest dream (112,813)
by Lighty from China
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Sounds like a not-so-strange Bobby A dream to me. Just kidding.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 14:42)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,814)
by Edward from USA
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I think that Mariah wouldn't have touched "MHWGO" with a ten-foot pole. She was pretty clear about not wanting to sing other people's songs. By then, Mariah was already moving away from that kind of ballads, and it just wouldn't have fit on "Butterfly" anyway. Celine, on the other hand, stuck to her adult contemporary lane, was the biggest star at the time, and it worked perfectly for her.
What always gets me is this vague, recycled narrative that turns Mariah into some constant damsel in distress, supposedly at the mercy of evil Tommy machinations. Mariah was the architect of her sound and music at that time.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 14:56)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,810)
by BFF from United States
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Do you think Mariah would have recorded "My Heart Will Go On" if it had been offered to her? She seemed pretty firm on not recording original songs written by other people at that point in her career. The song was also more in line with the adult contemporary image she was attempting to leave behind at that point in her career. She relaxed that rule about recording other people's songs when she did "When You Believe" with Whitney, but it seemed like Mariah was pretty steadfast on it up until "Almost Home". I'm actually a bit confused by "Almost Home" because Mariah says she did not write, but she was given a writing credit. Perhaps it was brought to her and then she asked for changes before agreeing to record it?
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 13:58)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,807)
by Edward from USA
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The song wasn't presented to Tommy for Celine, I never said that Tommy at some point wasn't involved, that's different. Mariah was Tommy's personal project while the dynamic with Celine was different, she already had very experienced team around her. So, just like "Hero" was written with Gloria Stephan [sic] in mind, so was "MHWGO".
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 13:30)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,804)
by Lambi from USA
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Yes, Horner and Jennings wrote the song. No one disputes that. But writing a song is not the same thing as turning it into the biggest global single of the 1990s.
I never said Tommy claimed authorship. In Hitmaker, he is very clear that his role was artist development, positioning, and leverage, the things that actually turn a record into a phenomenon.
Saying "Mottola had nothing to do with it" is abundantly wrong. Mottola was Céline's label boss and chief strategist. In Hitmaker, he describes Céline as one of Sony's most important artists and explains how he engineered her crossover from adult contemporary into global pop dominance. My Heart Will Go On was only the centerpiece of that strategy, not some accidental byproduct.
Another detail from his book that you're clearly not aware of: Céline almost did not do the song at all. She was tired of movie songs after Beauty and the Beast and initially did not want to do another one. Meaning the song was definitely up for grabs. That alone disproves the idea that this was a passive or an automatic process.
The global marketing coordination between Sony Music and the Titanic soundtrack mattered enormously. The radio rollout, the single release, and the international push were all deliberate. Without that effort, the song could easily have remained just a soundtrack cut.
So yes, Tommy Mottola had everything to do with it. Saying otherwise only shows that you did not read his book.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 10:38)
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Olympics - Nothing is Impossible (112,806)
by Edward from USA
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It ended up there, but you and I know it was written for "Precious". The first version has the character "Precious" talking before the song starts, I still have the Mp3. I can share it with you just in case.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 13:20)
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Olympics - Nothing is Impossible (112,805)
by Bobby A from United States
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100% did end up the AT&T Team USA soundtrack for the 2010 Winter Olympics as track number 8. The album was only released on iTunes.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 12:38)
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Article: Mariah Carey rules Hot 100 in record week for holiday hits (112,801)
by Edward from USA
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22 weeks at #1. Hopefully things are better and we can celebrate next year.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 05:32)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,800)
by Edward from USA
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Tommy had nothing to do with My Heart Will Go On. The song was written by James Horner (with Will Jennings) specifically for Céline, no other singer was considered.
James Cameron actually wanted the movie to end with an instrumental. Horner wrote the song anyway and had Céline record a demo behind Cameron's back. Once Cameron heard it, he approved it, and that demo became the final version. Tommy was there when she recorded the demo and thought it was great but that's about it.
So there was no Tommy "offering" the song to Céline, and Mariah was never in the conversation. If Céline hadn't done it, the song probably wouldn't exist as a vocal at all.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 05:27)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,797)
by Lambi from USA
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In his book, Tommy says he had to strongly convince Celine and her manager husband to sing MHWGO for Titanic. Celine did not really like the song and only sang it once as a demo because Tommy insisted.
His push for Celine's success becomes even clearer in a quote from record producer Michele Anthony, also included in Tommy's book: "Selling tens of millions of Celine records was really important for Tommy because it proved he had developed and broken another female vocalist who was now outselling Mariah. Being able to replicate what he had done with Mariah mattered deeply to him."
Timing-wise, in 1997 Mariah was the biggest star in the world, undeniably the most talented, and should have been the most obvious choice to sing a guaranteed blockbuster soundtrack. The song was essentially guaranteed an Oscar and a Grammy, and with Walter producing, Mariah should have at least been offered the opportunity. But no, Tommy said Celine was the first and only singer he ever offered the song to.
Whitney had The Bodyguard. Celine now had MHWGO. Two of Mariah's biggest rivals had massive hit movie soundtracks, and she had none. As a lamb, I know Mariah wanted credibility in the movie world very badly.
Do you think this is why Mariah developed such an inevitable, and possibly misplaced, disdain toward Celine? The Divas Live incident only made it worse. I actually side with Celine here. Aretha clearly said "help me lift it", and Celine simply did. Mariah's voice was shot. It feels like Celine had already been chosen over her privately, and now it was being publicly confirmed as to why. I felt her ego was so deeply bruised she had to go on tangents years later about it. I thought it was also unnecessary to include it in her book.
Anyway, not really trying to bring in old drama into the New Year, I've just been reading people's memoirs and found these very interesting.
(Monday 29 December 2025; 22:28)
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Olympics - Nothing is Impossible (112,799)
by Edward from USA
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100% was written for the movie "Precious", not The Olympics.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 05:02)
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Olympics - Nothing is Impossible (112,796)
by Lambi from USA
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It's personal, yet some parts of it will resonate with a lot of athletes, especially "survived a gruesome fall". Many of them have had to endure major injuries before reaching the Olympic level. Then there are lines like "surely, I couldn't find a friend" which feels a bit of a mismatch for what is supposed to be a motivational moment.
That said, Mariah takes songwriting assignments seriously. I put her in a totally different category than regular singers. She really doesn't miss the mark when a specific occasion calls for a specific song. She wrote 100% for the Winter Olympics, and she repurposed Through the Rain with Make It Happen during COVID. So I don't doubt she'll come up with something clever.
(Monday 29 December 2025; 20:50)
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Quiet (112,772)
by Edward from USA
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The board feels kind of sad this holiday season. I hope you're having a great time.
(Friday 26 December 2025; 04:18)
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Christmas (112,771)
by Edward from USA
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Merry Christmas everyone.
(Friday 26 December 2025; 04:10)
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The voice of those without voice (112,760)
by Edward from USA
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At this point, I think Mariah should just run for president. She could fix the state of the world with a few carefully placed high notes and a Christmas ceasefire. Problem solved. Truly historic. And if she doesn’t use her massive platform the way Barbra has consistently done, especially when the world is on fire, then maybe we all agree to suspend the whistle register until meaningful civic engagement resumes. For those without voice, no excuses.
(Wednesday 24 December 2025; 17:23)
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Bruno Mars (112,756)
by Edward from USA
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That's funny, put it in the Burn Book.
(Wednesday 24 December 2025; 03:14)
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Bruno Mars (112,752)
by Bill from the UK
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I wish Mariah would just do a blasted duet with Bruno so it can flop and then we move on and suggest someone else lol. Given the vibe of HFIA, she'd better suit a pairing with Maxwell and do something like his Urban Hang Suite album.
(Tuesday 23 December 2025; 18:29)
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So which is it? (112,751)
by Edward from USA
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It's not that charts don't matter, it's about having realistic expectations, which is a completely different conversation. Expecting Mariah to score a major hit when the general public can't really relate to her as an artist anymore is, to me, the definition of insanity. That's why I told people before "Here For It All" was released to forget about the charts and just focus on the music, because I knew the music would be great. As a realistic fan I didn't close my eyes not to see writing already hanging pretty on the wall.
I knew she was never going to compete with Taylor in any universe as some here suggested, and I also knew that taking seven years to release new music in an era where you can be relevant today and forgotten tomorrow was a huge mistake.
As for "All I Want for Christmas Is You", people love the song because of what it represents, but that love hasn't translated into renewed interest in the person singing it. Mariah, at this point, is largely unrelatable to the general public. You could say "AIWFCIY" has a life of its own, its impact goes beyond Mariah, labels, or promotion. It's simply part of the holidays now.
(Tuesday 23 December 2025; 17:17)
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So which is it? (112,741)
by Alexis Carrington-Colby from United States
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For 10 months out of the year, the lambs constantly say that the charts don't matter as Mariah has nothing left to choose. So, why is it during November and December, all the lamb posts are chart updates?
(Tuesday 23 December 2025; 03:14)
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The queen stays the queen (112,737)
by Edward from USA
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Billboard Hot 100 (December 27, 2025)
#1 AIWFCIY - (21 weeks total at #1) #2 Jingle Bell Rock #3 Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree #4 Last Christmas #5 Santa Tell Me
AIWFCIY is now the longest-charting Hot 100 hit by a woman in a lead role (78 weeks). Mariah also becomes the artist with the most cumulative weeks at #1 in Hot 100 history, 100 weeks total, with the closest competitor still 40 weeks behind. Decades later and still making history. The queen stays the queen?
(Tuesday 23 December 2025; 00:40)
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I told you that Winter was coming (112,720)
by Edward from USA
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Billboard is removing YouTube streams from counting toward all charts, effective January 16, 2026. That's a massive change and it's going to shake things up more than people realize.
Yes, Ariana and Taylor will definitely feel this. A lot of their weekly chart strength comes from fans looping music videos, lyric videos, and visualizers on YouTube. Without those numbers, those huge debuts and long chart runs won't come as easily.
But this really affects most artists, especially those with international or free-platform-heavy fanbases where YouTube is the main way people listen. Billboard prioritizing paid subscription streams feels outdated, and the result is simple: charting gets harder, debuts look smaller, and the charts start reflecting who can pay rather than what people are actually playing.
(Thursday 18 December 2025; 02:59)
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Correction (112,719)
by Edward from USA
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I don't think they will, and if they did, it would be unfair. Holiday songs aren't taking up those spots by accident or because of some loophole, they're there on merit. They're the most popular songs in the country during that time, measured by the exact same rules as everything else: radio airplay, streaming, and sales.
If a song is dominating all three metrics, it deserves its position, whether it's a brand new release or a 30-year-old Christmas classic. Changing the rules just because seasonal songs are too successful would basically mean punishing records for being massively in demand. That's not how a chart that's supposed to reflect popularity should work.
(Thursday 18 December 2025; 01:32)
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Correction (112,718)
by TJ from Norway
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Do you think they will change the rules soon?
(Wednesday 17 December 2025; 23:00)
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Diamond certification for Merry Christmas (112,712)
by Edward from USA
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"Merry Christmas" officially received RIAA Diamond certification on December 15, 2025. "Mariah Carey" has been stuck at 9× Platinum for 25 years now, so I think that album pretty much ran its course. Unless there's some sudden, unexpected renewed interest in it, and judging by how interested this generation is in her music other than Christmas, I doubt we'll see that happen in another 25 years.
(Tuesday 16 December 2025; 15:14)
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Diamond certification for Merry Christmas (112,711)
by Chicago Lamb from USA
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Mariah reportedly now ties Whitney Houston and Shania Twain for 3 Diamond certified albums. Perhaps the webmaster can substantiate this but Mariah's debut album is 9x Platinum. Therefore, she will take the lead at some point soon?
(Tuesday 16 December 2025; 14:20)
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Correction (112,703)
by Edward from USA
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Billboard Hot 100 (dated December 20): #1 All I Want For Christmas Is You #2 Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree #3 Last Christmas #4 Jingle Bell Rock #5 Santa Tell Me
(Monday 15 December 2025; 22:15)
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The demo tape (112,695)
by Edward from USA
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They can digitize it and leak it. I'm pretty sure that's not the only copy out there in the wild. That's what's going to eventually happen anyway.
(Monday 15 December 2025; 12:00)
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The demo tape (112,694)
by Bill from the UK
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Yes I just read more on the auction site and it clearly says it can’t be redistributed or sold etc. in any way. What a shame. Well, I hope whoever got it enjoys it for many years.
(Monday 15 December 2025; 11:12)
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History corrected (112,681)
by Edward from USA
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It's official, "AIWFCIY" breaks and sets a new record, sitting at #1 for a cumulative 20 weeks. Lil Nas X, go ahead and get ready to bend the knee and hand the torch back to the queen.
#2 Jingle Bell Rock #3 Last Christmas #4 Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree #5 Santa Tell Me
(Sunday 14 December 2025; 15:35)
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I'ma keep sweet at almost 60 (112,673)
by Edward from USA
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The solo version without the girls just doesn't hit, it feels empty. And the version where Mariah added another verse? You can tell it was kind of slapped together and not very well produced. "Sugar Sweet" featuring Kehlani and Shenseea is easily the best version, but it just wasn't meant to be.
I also agree that a younger Mariah would've done better with "Sugar Sweet". The song didn't flop because of a lack of promotion or a video, it simply didn't catch on because it came from Mariah, and people aren't interested in her music like that anymore, at least not the kind she's putting out now, and that's ok. There was a time when Mariah had the Midas touch, just like Taylor does today, she could've farted on a track and it would've been a hit. Sadly, those days are gone.
I've been telling people here to focus on the music because I knew what would happen with "HFIA". I was being realistic and saw it coming, I don't live in la-la land.
It's time for the Lambs to be a little more realistic. "HFIA" is a great album, and if it had been released by someone other than Mariah, it would've been a sure hit. Some people stay blind because they refuse to open their eyes and accept the truth.
(Saturday 13 December 2025; 18:20)
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Article: Mariah Carey's grunge album release date revealed (112,660)
by Edward from USA
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I don't think she's aiming at going on tour to promote SUE, it's just that the window to profit from it is getting smaller as she comes to the realization that Roe can't be two years older than her.
(Friday 12 December 2025; 17:29)
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Article: Mariah Carey's grunge album release date revealed (112,658)
by Dominique from South Africa
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I used to be excited about this project, but timing is everything. This can turn out to be a huge mistake. I don't know if anyone wants a grunge album from an artist who looks half asleep, and walks around like they're trying to balance a bucket of water on their head. I love Mc but this could be totally humiliating, especially if she is going to perform any of these songs.
(Friday 12 December 2025; 16:23)
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