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About Norman from USA: I've been a fan of Mariah's since I first heard Love Takes Time (I don't know how I initially missed Vision of Love), and I haven't looked back since. Her music has been there for me in my darkest hours to help lift out of the depths of whatever I was going through at the time. She's my all time favorite female singer, even though I love many others. It's funny to think of her music as a "friend", but it's always been there for me. I love her talent. " As we drifted to another place and time And the feeling was so heady and sublime As I lost my heart to you There in the dark Underneath the stars"

Something's going on behind the scenes (103,511) by Norman from USA No offense, but are you new here? Andrew isn't a blind follower - quite the opposite. If anything, he's probably taking the piss. (Saturday 16 September 2023; 07:57) this is a reply to message 103,506

Something's going on behind the scenes (103,506) by Brandon from USA My comment was out of concern for Mariah and nothing else. As a dedicated lamb from the beginning, I can be concerned and question things as I see them. You choose to follow blindly and that's ok for you. I want the best for MC and if something doesn't look right, I will speak on it. With that being said, I hope everything is ok and that we get to see more of her healthy soon. (Saturday 16 September 2023; 02:53)

It's here (103,368) by Norman from USA It is, Edward. It's The Platters song. And phenomenal. I'm verklempt. (Friday 8 September 2023; 09:03) this is a reply to message 103,354

It's here (103,354) by Edward from USA Is it a cover? (Friday 8 September 2023; 01:11)

Mariah Carey lands six new RIAA certifications (103,283) by Norman from USA I'm surprised Merry Christmas hasn't either tbh. I need it to 4 diamonds at the very least. (Saturday 2 September 2023; 03:46) this is a reply to message 103,281

Mariah Carey lands six new RIAA certifications (103,281) by Randy from USA The debut is not certified Diamond yet? I believe it's sold enough to be certified by now and I really want her to match Whitney's three Diamond albums. (Friday 1 September 2023; 23:35)

Be nice or leave (103,258) by Norman from USA I hear ya, Brad. I do. But that was from a bygone era. That hasn't been the case in several years. Still, things are pretty tame around here. Best to just scroll up. Cheers. (Wednesday 30 August 2023; 05:53) this is a reply to message 103,256

Be nice or leave (103,256) by Brad from USA Hi. I've been coming to this message board since 1998 and I am not trying to be "message board mom" or anything, but I do hope people will continue to be kind and supportive of one another on here. Rather than mean spirited or back biting. We don't really need that. As Mariah's sign always says: be nice or leave. (Tuesday 29 August 2023; 20:18)

Discounted singles (103,233) by Norman from USA Andrew - stop this. Stop this at once. You're making too much sense and I will not tolerate agreeing with you for one more second. What will the neighbors think? For all that is holy, I insist you not utter another word of reason. It's as homophobic as Bill and Rob flirting with poor photogenic Jamie. I pray Jamie hath the fortitude to Make it Through the Rain and take even more flattering pictures. After all, we all deserve a Right to Dream (Randy's Theme). I bid you farewell now before Randy, Bill, Rob, and Jaime wonder why they're in it catching strays. And whilst I go, please remember that should you not heed my plea, I will hunt you down. I hope you know this one - I see you up there. (Monday 21 August 2023; 03:14) this is a reply to message 103,228

Discounted singles (103,228) by Andrew from the UK I must be missing something here. "Discounted singles"? My first question would be: "Discounted from what?" People can sell whatever they want at any price in a free market society. As on a bell curve, items are sold at the lowest price that will shift more units that at a higher price that will shift less if it would make more profit to do so? I don't recall in Woolworths of Tower Record or any other music store in the UK at the time there being a standard fixed price for a single. And, in any case, my second question would be: "Who, in their right mind, buys a hardcopy single because of the price? "Way back when, back in the day, all songs were on the radio and music television channels before they hit the music stores. I had rarely gone to one not knowing what the new single releases sounded like - or, if I had, I would generally (elongated) know what the single was going to sound like dependent on the artist. It's not as if people bought My All not knowing what a Mariah Carey ballad would sound like. The argument is absurd. My third question would be: "If it were so easy to get to No.1 on the Billboard Hot 100 by discounting a hardcopy single in the music stores - that is, if the high charting led to further purchases at full price, even: why didn't everyone do it?" There is something so dubious about this "Mariah only got No.1 because of discounted singles" argument that it smacks of disingenuousness somewhere. Unless I am gravely mistaken. But the trouble with entertaining Mariah critics in this talking point is that they're arguing something that can never be won and so they can chip away at her with it. But it can be argued on a test of objective reasonability. Yes, I imagine some persons did throw it into their baskets because it was cheap, as some people are so inclined - but so inclined in *those* numbers? I would tell anyone suggesting that as a reality to not waste my time. (Sunday 20 August 2023; 09:32)

Bliss (103,072) by Norman from USA Right? It always gets to me. There's something about that beat. (Monday 24 July 2023; 18:42) this is a reply to message 103,069

Bliss (103,069) by Edward from USA I love that song. So right for the occasion. (Monday 24 July 2023; 14:40)

Bliss (103,067) by Norman from USA Randy, this is going to sound out of left field, but check out Paula Cole's "Feelin' Love". It just - yeah. Oh, and I always add Toni's You're Making Me High. (Monday 24 July 2023; 06:32) this is a reply to message 103,063

Bliss (103,063) by Randy from USA Don't laugh. Bliss is on my sex playlist. Along with Janet Jackson's Would You Mind. Rope Burn, Toni Braxton's Maybe, Trey Songz Neighbors Know My Name, Janet Jackson's Anytime Anyplace, Usher's Dot.com, Madonna's Justify My Love, Ciara's Promise, Twista's Rain Down on Me, Ashanti's Rescue, Beyoncé's Speechless. TLC's Red Light Special, George Michael's Father Figure. Bliss is the only MC song I can be horizontal with another with. Hey, ya'll promised not to laugh. Check out some of these songs if you don't know them. (Sunday 23 July 2023; 04:26)

Who is she kidding? (102,883) by Norman from USA That's a complete load of bull. Was she late 90s Mariah or even mid-2000s? No. But she didn't come off as drunk nor as a drag act. She was present, engaging, fun, and she sounded good singing. I was honestly expecting something along the lines of the Lovers and Friends show in Vegas but was pleasantly surprised how different it was in tone and the health of her voice. On the majority of the remixes, the backing track did the heavy lifting for sure. There was no hiding that. She did sing a lot of the slower songs, however. And the My All/Mi Todo moment was chef's kiss. As was the Rainbow interlude. I could've done without the numerous backstage moments that interrupted the flow of the show, but she always does that. (Wednesday 14 June 2023; 00:29) this is a reply to message 102,879

Who is she kidding? (102,879) by Nick G from Germany Well I was there and what can I say? I quote my good friend Clarissa: Mariah was the best drag queen of the day. the movements, the attitudes and she sang like a drunk tourist in a karaoke bar. it was funny and sad at the same time. (Tuesday 13 June 2023; 17:30)

Forbes richest women, no Mariah (102,856) by Norman from USA Bill, Mariah's worldwide sales speak for themselves. She might not have been big in the UK, but the UK isn't even the 2nd biggest music market - that would be Japan, where Mariah's their biggest-selling foreign act. She's also big in Asia as a whole - you know, where the vast majority of the world's population is. Sure, it's not Europe, I'll grant you that. But perhaps she's fine without the oonts oonts aficionados? Who's to say? Would I like something other than a yearly Christmas resurgence, and a couple a high notes on a TikTok and "I see you up there" from a performance? Of course. Need I drag her through the mud to fasten on a badge as a true and non-delusional fan ad nauseum? No. And other making headlines for horrendous nips and tucks, what current accomplishments do you speak of when lauding your worldwide artist? All the best. (Thursday 8 June 2023; 19:20) this is a reply to message 102,854

Forbes richest women, no Mariah (102,854) by Bill from the UK Lol, fair, but the other "so called" popular females (Madonna et al might object to that turn of phrase hah) have flexes equally as impressive in other areas. I think this is my point, there's a big wide world of other successes out there beyond US Billboard #1s and Christmas time. (Thursday 8 June 2023; 15:00)

Circles remix (102,805) by Norman from USA Wow. That's fire. (Friday 2 June 2023; 09:41) this is a reply to message 102,802

Circles remix (102,802) by Jamie from UK Check it out it's great. Good summer vibes. (Thursday 1 June 2023; 18:46)

Best song intro (102,776) by Norman from USA For me, it would have to be "You're So Cold". The only thing to match is the intro "Emotions" from Unplugged. They're a serve. That said, the Fantasy intro is wholly iconic. (Saturday 27 May 2023; 14:37) this is a reply to message 102,774

Best song intro (102,774) by Bobby A from United States The intro to Fantasy is MC's best song intro. (Saturday 27 May 2023; 04:02)

AI Mariah Carey songs (102,643) by Norman from USA Well, at least Mariah's pen gig isn't in any danger with this model, because yikes. (Saturday 29 April 2023; 01:26) this is a reply to message 102,635

AI Mariah Carey songs (102,635) by Edward from USA I asked AI to write song as Mariah Carey would write it, and here's what it came up with. Verse 1: I never thought that love could be so real, But then you walked into my life, and now I feel, A passion deep inside my soul, A flame that burns beyond control. Chorus: Cause you're the one that I need, You're the air that I breathe, And I can't imagine living without you, Cause you're my forever love, And I thank the stars above, For bringing me to you, my love. Verse 2: With every breath I take, I feel your love, It's like a melody, that's sung from up above, And every time I look into your eyes, I'm lost in a world, where love never dies. Chorus: Cause you're the one that I need, You're the air that I breathe, And I can't imagine living without you, Cause you're my forever love, And I thank the stars above, For bringing me to you, my love. Bridge: And in this world, that's so full of pain, You are the sunshine, that breaks through the rain, And I'll never let you go, my heart's in your hands, Cause baby, you're the one that I need, the only one that understands. Chorus: Cause you're the one that I need, You're the air that I breathe, And I can't imagine living without you, Cause you're my forever love, And I thank the stars above, For bringing me to you, my love. Outro: Cause baby, you're my forever love, And I'll thank the stars above, For giving me you, my love. (Thursday 27 April 2023; 18:52)

New Mariah titles (one word) (102,545) by Norman from USA Reign, dahling. Reign. (Thursday 13 April 2023; 06:14) this is a reply to message 102,536

New Mariah titles (one word) (102,536) by Randy from USA So Bill, I wasn't feeling your list. So I asked AI for ten titles that were one word in keeping in line with Emotions, Daydream, Butterfly, Rainbow and Glitter. I still didn't like the list lol but I think Harmony is the best no? And she has already touched on a lot of these lol. Phoenix Radiance Serendipity Euphoria Enchantment Harmony Whimsy Mirage Infinity Nostalgia We must really be bored lol. (Wednesday 12 April 2023; 01:00)

One cover to consider (102,526) by Norman from USA I can see her saying "Hasn't that been done before? I think that should be her thing." Only because Madge did it ages ago. (Tuesday 11 April 2023; 07:22) this is a reply to message 102,525

One cover to consider (102,525) by Bobby A from United States MC has been really successful with covering famous hit songs. She has to cover a song that is gonna grab the world's attention. So, this one song came to my mind that would fit MC's current voice perfectly. The song is Rolls Royce's [sic] Love Don't Live Here Anymore. MC could put her own spin on it with a huge choir moment from Tye Tribbet and G.A. (Tuesday 11 April 2023; 00:48)

Edward (102,486) by Norman from USA Happy belated Birthday, Edward (Thursday 6 April 2023; 08:57) this is a reply to message 102,475

Edward (102,475) by Jamie from UK Happy Birthday Edward. (Wednesday 5 April 2023; 22:17)

Die For You (102,300) by Norman from USA With this recent remix by The Weeknd feat Ariana debuting at #1 this, it got me thinking about a past single that never really got a shot but should have been a single (not necessarily talking about Migrate). Which song do you think would be a good idea to release as a remix, and with whom? I think the feature would really have to stand out for the song to at least be top 10. There's obviously a lot of material to choose from, but I can't say I have one that stands out - maybe Obsessed? Melt Away? #Beautiful? What do you guys think? (Monday 6 March 2023; 22:50)

Did ya'll know? (102,273) by Norman from USA No, but it certainly didn't age well, did it? (Thursday 2 March 2023; 19:56) this is a reply to message 102,272

Did ya'll know? (102,272) by Randy from USA I was putzing around on the internet and discovered that Vanilla Ice won the 1991 Favorite New Artist American Music Award over Mariah Carey. (Thursday 2 March 2023; 16:13)

"It's a Wrap" on the Hot 100 (102,253) by Norman from USA It did debut on r&b digital tracks at #22 - something like that. I think that's sales, however. I don't know how it's doing on streaming outside of Spotify. (Thursday 23 February 2023; 11:02) this is a reply to message 102,251

"It's a Wrap" on the Hot 100 (102,251) by MC85 from Canada Does anyone know why it hasn't chatted yet? It seems to be very popular and the Spotify numbers are good. Even the young'uns where I work are walking around singing it or recognize it when I'm singing it lol. (Thursday 23 February 2023; 03:44)

Mr. Morton (102,186) by Norman from USA Okay, I'm just going to say it: I'm a salty beep who will die mad at the Grammy's. I know this topic has been discussed as nauseum, but there's just no way it can only be 5 wins for her. I don't believe she deserves all the awards, but she should certainly be lauded far more than she has been. Her pen game, production, vocal arrangements, and vocals were superb in her prime. I'm mad and saddened that her artistry has been dismissed and overlooked for so long. And, no - I'm not congratulating beepin nobody (quadruple italic and underlined exclamation marks.) (Monday 6 February 2023; 04:50)

Never Forget You (102,079) by Norman from USA It would be amazing if she did/could. I sincerely doubt she could, however. Maybe a snippet like she did with MYM? (Monday 16 January 2023; 03:57) this is a reply to message 102,075

Never Forget You (102,075) by Bobby A from United States Just wondering about the Lambs thought if MC could sing NFY in the same key today from beginning to end. I think that she could in a relaxed setting in front Lambs. (Sunday 15 January 2023; 16:35)

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,007) by Norman from USA After reading about this list and everyone being up in arms about several choices, I decided to Google other lists to see how they differ. I found that they all seem to be off on their picks. How can you make a list of the greatest singers/vocalists, and then take their popularity into account in their ranking order? I mean, how in the world does that pertain to vocal ability? Not to knock singers/performers with limited vocal range or ability (I can think of several in that department that punch above their weight when delivering an emotional and touching song), but it seems only logical to rank them on their ability, right? Any time I see a list with Paul McCartney, Elvis, or John Lennon in the top 5/10, I know I can't take them seriously. I know a lot of it is subjective because music as a whole is that way, but at have the right players on the board when you're picking. Who would you guys pick to be in the top 20 (I think it gives a lot more wiggle room for to include people who you can move around if necessary)? Here are my players (in no particular order): Mariah (obviously) Whitney Celine Etta James Aretha Ella Freddie Mercury Donny Hathaway Luther Linda Ronstadt Marvin Gaye Stevie Wonder Bono Rocio Durcal Prince Barb[a]ra Streisand George Michael Al Green Axl Rose Tina Turner Picking these was pretty difficult because it's still biased toward certain genres (and heavily American), but there's no denying they can sing. There are still several other picks I could swap for one another (I wanted to put Ray Charles, James Brown, Robert Plant, Patti Labelle, Billy Ocean, Peabo Bryson, Donna Summer, Jeffrey Osborne, Annie Lennox, Kenny Rogers, and countless others), but at least they're all talented singers/vocalists. What say you? (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 03:32) this is a reply to message 101,999

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (101,999) by Bill from the UK Mariah ranks #5 in the list. Aretha first, Whitney second. Celine? Nowhere to be found. (Monday 2 January 2023; 14:46)

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,005) by Norman from USA Right? Facts. (Monday 2 January 2023; 18:44) this is a reply to message 102,003

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,003) by BFF from United States I can't take this list seriously with Beyonce at #8 but Linda Ronstadt at #47 and Donna Summer at #122. Are you kidding me? (Monday 2 January 2023; 16:04)

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,000) by Norman from USA Rolling Stone has a history of not knowing what the bleep they're doing with these lists. The Celine omission is just another example, of which there are are countless on this list alone. It's best to just keep it pushing. (Monday 2 January 2023; 15:13) this is a reply to message 101,999

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (101,999) by Bill from the UK Mariah ranks #5 in the list. Aretha first, Whitney second. Celine? Nowhere to be found. (Monday 2 January 2023; 14:46)

The cringe of it all (101,947) by Norman from USA Walter A seems to be in desperate need of a spotlight on his career. Why does the man insist on being a massive tool when it comes to AIWFC? He's credited and receives half the royalties every year. Get your degree and go write another hit if you're so pressed. Geez. Laugh your way to the bank and give it a rest already. It's giving bitter, girl. And who's this Chan lady still going on about the QOC shizz? Wasn't the case thrown out or something? People will remember Mariah losing the fight for the TM before they'll ever remember her. And that's no shade to her career - she obviously has one. Maybe someday someone will know her outside of being referenced to Mariah. We love everybody. Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it. May you have the good fortune to spend it with your loved ones. (Saturday 24 December 2022; 07:58)

Merry Christmas from Croatia (101,940) by Norman from USA And a Merry Christmas to you, too. (Thursday 22 December 2022; 18:29) this is a reply to message 101,937

Merry Christmas from Croatia (101,937) by Zachariah from Croatia I love you all and I wish you all a very Merry Christmas. (Thursday 22 December 2022; 12:43)

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