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About Bill from the UK: I love Mariah more than you do. London Daydream Tour Attendee.

Re: Name game (94,938) (94,941) by Bill from the UK If your name is Kqz you can't play this game lol. (Tuesday 18 August 2020; 08:23)

Re: Name game (94,925) (94,926) by Bill from the UK Butterfly I Want to Know What Love Is Languishing Love Takes Time (Monday 17 August 2020; 16:30)

Re: EP recap (94,917) (94,921) by Bill from the UK Thank you very much Korey2. (Sunday 16 August 2020; 18:04)

Hopes for Butterfly EPs (94,920) by Bill from the UK As promised, below are my hopes for the Butterfly remix EPs, should MC choose to carry on the trend. Butterfly was plentiful with remixes, some very, very rare ones as well. It would be great to have these available for all to enjoy. *Denotes vinyl only release Honey: 1. Bad Boy Remix 2. Smooth Version With Intro 3. Smooth Version No Intro 4. Classic Mix 5. Classic Instrumental 6. So So Def Mix 7. So So Def Radio Mix 8. Morales Club Dub 9. Mo' Honey Dub 10. Def Club Mix 11. Morales Dub 12. Def Rascal Anthem* 13. Rascal Dub* Butterfly: 1. Meme's Extended Club Mix 2. Meme Club Radio 3. Meme Latin Beats 4. Meme's Extended Club Mix - Parts 1 &2 5. TV Track 6. TV Track Short 7. Instrumental 8. Radio Instrumental 9. Sambatterfly Edit 10. Sambatterfly 11. Sambatterfly for Clubbers 12. Classic Bossa Nova All of the above remixes are incredibly rare and only available on two hard to find (and hard to afford) South American promo CDs. That said, they are fantastic mixes, especially the Bossa Nova. I have separated out Fly Away (Butterfly Reprise), but given it is only two mixes, presumably this will be grouped with the Butterfly remixes above, should they be released. Fly Away (Butterfly Reprise): 1. Fly Away Club Mix 2. Def 'B' Fly Mix Breakdown: 1. Radio Edit 2. The Mo' Thugs Remix Only two remixes for Breakdown - a shorter Radio Edit, and then a stretched out Mo' Thugs Remix. It would be a shame if these didn't appear as The Mo' Thugs Remix is quite enjoyable with the extra verses. As Breakdown was technically a double-A side with My All (in the US at least), here's hoping they are affixed at the end of the My All EP. The Roof (Back In Time): 1. Mobb Deep Edit (AKA Radio Edit/Mix) 2. Mobb Deep Remix (AKA Remix with Mobb Deep) 3. Mobb Deep Extended Version 4. Full Crew Radio Edit - No Rap 5. Full Crews' Club Mix 6. Full Crew Club Mix 7. Morales Radio Mix 8. Funky Club Mix (AKA Morales Funky Club Mix) 9. After Hours Mix* 10. Bass Man Mix* My worry here is the similarly titled Full Crews' Club Mix and Full Crew Club Mix will see one of them not make it onto the EP (much like the Make It Happen Radio Edit that wasn't on the EP because, I assume, it shared the same title as the edited LP Version as was subsequently overlooked). My All: 1. Classic Radio Mix (AKA Classic Radio Club Mix, Morales Classic Radio Mix/Edit) 2. Classic Club Mix 3. Morales "Def" Club Mix 4. "My" Club Mix 5. Def Club Mix* 6. So So Def Remix (AKA JD Remix) 7. So So Def Remix Without Rap 8. So So Def Remix Instrumental* 9. So So Def Remix A Cappella* 10. Full Crew Radio Mix 11. Full Crew Main Mix 12. Full Crew Main Mix Without Rap* 13. Full Crew Main Mix Instrumental* Okay so lots of explaining to do with this one. I am unsure if the Def Club Mix is in fact, one of the Morales Club mixes. It has only be issued on one promotional vinyl release, and could have easily been mis-titled when pressed. The Instrumental and A Cappella of the So So Def Remix are, again, only found on one promotional vinyl release, which doesn't look official (white label), so I doubt they will appear. Mi Todo: 1. Original Version 2. Version Por Una Noche Mas 3. Version Mi Fiesta 4. Por Una Noche Mas En Los Clubs 5. Por Una Noche Mas Instrumental I have separated out Mi Todo from the My All EP. I really, really hope these mixes are released. I know the Spanish Versions of Hero and Open Arms have (yet) to be issued, but given the treatment Mi Todo was given at the time, by having some club mixes commissioned for the release, it would be brilliant to see these very rare mixes available to stream and purchase. I'm debating with myself whether to include the #1's era with the post, but this message is already too long lol. As always, if anything has been missed, please let me know. (Sunday 16 August 2020; 18:02)

Re: EP recap (94,913) (94,919) by Bill from the UK Sorry all, an update to my original post. In the Mariah Carey grouping, I should have also included the Radio Edit for I Don't Wanna Cry, apologies. This was only available on the US promo CD and, I assume, has not been released for the same reason as Can't Let Go's radio edit - no other remixes to accompany it. Also, goes without saying, but the Merry Christmas era was skipped presumably because it is August. That said, many of the remixes for that album found their way onto the deluxe edition of Merry Christmas released last December, albeit there are some omissions. I'm unsure where/if to group Endless Love. It is my favourite Mariah duet, and a gorgeous song. No offence to Lionel and Diana of course, but Luther and Mariah are much better singers and inject so much warmth into their recording. Remixes for Endless Love: 1. Instrumental 2. Mariah Only 3. Luther Only Very unlikely for these versions to be released during the celebrations, especially the Luther Only version as, well, there's no Mariah on it lol. (Sunday 16 August 2020; 17:16)

Re: EP recap (94,916) (94,918) by Bill from the UK Thank you Xavier, I'm glad fans are finding it useful and it feels good to put my knowledge to use for a change haha. Oh, why did my brain decide to retain information about Mariah Carey remixes over algebra lol. (Sunday 16 August 2020; 11:11)

Re: Daydream EPs (94,912) (94,914) by Bill from the UK Haha thank you David. That's my job for tomorrow afternoon, don't worry lol. (Saturday 15 August 2020; 18:34)

EP recap (94,913) by Bill from the UK Hi all. I'm going to bore you all to death with an EP Recap series, so brace yourself. I think only about 3 people will be interested in this, so skip over if not your thing. Missed remixes: Mariah Carey: Medley Suspected reason: not really a remix per se, and it was horrendously edited together. Emotions: Can't Let Go (Edit with Intro) Can't Let Go (Edit without Intro) Make It Happen (Extended Version Radio Edit)* Emotional Rescue Medley Suspected reason: no other remixes other than the radio edits were made for Can't Let Go (to my knowledge). The edit with the intro appeared on all single releases, the edit without the intro (begins at the "even though I try" keyboard after the opening chords, otherwise the same as the commercial version with the removed whistle note at the end) was only present on a promo 7" and a promo mastering CD, so may not have even been an official edit intended for release. Therefore, with no other remixes to accompany it's not really feasible to release an "EP" with one track lol. *This may have got missed as it was actually titled "Radio Edit" alongside the edit of the album version. This is however a shortened version of the Extended Version. Whoever was compiling the EP may have seen the same remix title in parenthesis and assumed them to be the same. Potential oversight? I am unsure whether the Emotional Rescue remix medley that appeared on some promo vinyls in the Emotions era is official or not, so may not have been included for that reason. Music Box: Hero (Spanish Version) Suspected reason: MC will include this on a future "B Sides" EP along with Can You Hear Me which I have to mention in every post. Daydream: Fantasy (Puffy's Mix) Always Be My Baby (Reggae Soul Mix) Always Be My Baby (Reggae Soul Dub) Always Be My Baby (Reggae Soul Acapella) Open Arms (Spanish Version) Suspected reason: Open Arms, same reason for Hero's Spanish Version. As I mentioned in a previous post, the Puffy's Mix of Fantasy is identical to the Bad Boy with ODB remix, albeit an echo/some reverb is removed in the rap verse. Understandable. As for Always Be My Baby, I was wondering if the Reggae Soul mixes couldn't get clearance. They very obviously use an (uncredited?) sample from Pass the Dutchie by Musical Youth, so maybe they could not be released for streaming/purchase for legalities. I can't see any other reason why they wouldn't have been included. I'll continue this when the best batch are released. I bet y'all can't wait. (Saturday 15 August 2020; 14:11)

Re: Daydream EPs (94,904) (94,905) by Bill from the UK I've just seen the UTS video clip and nearly died. It's real and Mariah has it. Wow. (Friday 14 August 2020; 22:47)

Daydream EPs (94,901) by Bill from the UK Okay, so it looks like MC has slipped Merry Christmas which I thought might happen. But hopefully shell continue the celebrations for the rest of the year and Merry Christmas will get its moment. The Daydream EPs are up. Absolutely brilliant that Underneath the Stars and its brilliant Drifting Remix is finally out there for the world. Very nice surprise to see this Sweet A Capella version of UTS that I had never heard before. I'm disappointed Always Be My Baby is missing the three Reggae Soul mixes. Particularly as the Reggae Soul Acapella was a vinyl only release. Fantasy and One Sweet Day are both in tact though which is great. I love the Chucky's Remix of OSD, one of her best. (Friday 14 August 2020; 07:53)

Re: AYNAF (Soul Convention Remix) video (94,893) (94,896) by Bill from the UK For the longest time I was saying how HTHAS at GMA was 1991, due to the Can't Let Go video hairdo, but everyone kept insisting it was 1994. The arrangement is different (and better) to the version that ended up being recorded. (Wednesday 12 August 2020; 17:09)

Re: Allison (94,891) (94,892) by Bill from the UK Yes agree. Who wants to make a list with me? (Wednesday 12 August 2020; 13:47)

Re: AYNAF (Soul Convention Remix) video (94,880) (94,881) by Bill from the UK Hundreds, but my throwaway Kodak didn't really do it justice lol. They are in storage though unfortunately. I still have the programme and the black t shirt that I wore for about a year afterwards lol. (Saturday 8 August 2020; 01:14)

AYNAF (Soul Convention Remix) video (94,878) by Bill from the UK Wow, MC just uploaded a video for the Soul Convention Remix of AYNAF with new footage. I never even knew this existed until today. Is there hope for the Underneath the Stars video? Also will she release Can You Hear Me (had to get it in there). PS. I was at the London leg of the Daydream tour FYI. (Friday 7 August 2020; 20:53)

Re: Bill (94,862) (94,873) by Bill from the UK Haha thank you Jade. Alas, it dries up post-Rainbow as I stopped collecting after that point (had to draw a line somewhere, and her remixes were never as good as they were in the mid 90s so I wasn't too bothered not having every version). But yes if the specialist subject is MC remixes 1990-2000 then sign me up haha. (Friday 7 August 2020; 17:39)

Re: MC30 (94,854) (94,870) by Bill from the UK Yes I also had all the remixes as well Jamie. However, there were some vinyl exclusives that are now digital which is great. My vinyl versions were getting very crackly due to the records being so old (and well played), and my digital transfers still had the vinyl pops and clicks present. Whilst I do find the vinyl background noise endearing, it is great to have clean, spotless versions of the C&C Dub, All That & More Mix and Boriqua Tribe Mix, which was always one of my favourites (in terms of club versions, as nothing beats the Soul Convention Remix). (Friday 7 August 2020; 16:35)

Re: Merry Christmas / Daydream remix EPs (94,868) (94,869) by Bill from the UK How did I forget that (exclamation mark). I love those extra coos at the beginning. I'm not sure if that counts as a remix or just a remaster/another version from the mastering sessions. It wasn't designated as a remix on the compilation, much the same for the alternative God Rest Ye Merry Gentleman that appeared in the mid-00s (from memory). How Much on The Ballads is also different from the version on Rainbow but, again, not designated as a remix. I'm not sure how I feel about these. I need to dwell on this for a moment lol. Thank you for appreciating my posts. (Friday 7 August 2020; 16:25)

Re: Allison (94,861) (94,863) by Bill from the UK Very well put Jade, my sentiments exactly. (Friday 7 August 2020; 11:57)

Merry Christmas / Daydream remix EPs (94,860) by Bill from the UK So, on the off chance Mariah her very self read my remix post and used it as inspo, here's the remix breakdown for Merry Christmas and Daydream. I hope Merry Christmas doesn't get overlooked as it's, you know, not Christmas. All I Want for Christmas Is You: 1. So So Def Remix 2. Extra Festive 3. Super Festive 4. Mariah's New Dance Mix 5. Mariah's New Dance Mix Edit 6. Mariah's New Dance Mix Extended Joy to the World: 1. Celebration Mix Edit (aka Radio Club Mix) 2. Celebration Mix 3. Flava Mix 4. Crash Dub Crash 5. Club Mix Miss You Most (At Christmas Time) 1. Radio Version Fantasy: 1. Radio Mix 2. Bad Boy Fantasy 3. Bad Boy with ODB 4. Bad Boy Mix 5. Def Club Mix 6. Def Drums Mix 7. MC Mix 8. Puffy's Mix* 9. Puffy's Club Mix 10. The Boss Mix 11. Sweet Dub Mix 12. Daydream Interlude (Fantasy Sweet Dub Mix) *Many believe this mix to be identical to Bad Boy with ODB, but there is a difference. Albeit very small. The "jump jump" line in the rap has an echo on one version and not the other. One Sweet Day: 1. A Cappella 2. Sweet A Cappella 3. Chucky's Remix Always Be My Baby: 1. Mr. Dupri No Rap Radio Mix 2. Mr. Dupri Extended Mix 3. Mr. Dupri Mix 4. Reggae Soul Mix 5. Reggae Soul Dub Mix 6. Reggae Soul Acapella 7. Def Classic Radio Mix 8. Always Club 9. Groove A Pella 10. Dub-A-Baby 11. ST Dub Underneath the Stars: 1. Drifting Remix 2. Drifting Remix w/o Rap This website's discography has a promo with a UK Radio Mix, UK Dance Mix and UK Live Mix. I am uncertain how authentic this is. However, these are actually the Album Version, Drifting Remix and MSG live performance respectively. As always let me know if I have missed anything please. (Friday 7 August 2020; 10:24)

Re: MC30 (94,855) (94,859) by Bill from the UK I have every faith in Mariah that she'll deliver. Her original teaser post indicated live performances, remixes, and B sides. So far, we haven't seen a B side (I don't count Don't Play That Song), so here's hoping that Do You Think of Me, Slipping Away, this mystery Can You Hear Me I won't shut up about, and others find their way onto a B Sides EP. (Friday 7 August 2020; 10:00)

Re: MC30 (94,854) (94,857) by Bill from the UK Also Never Forget You EP. This was exactly as I predicted earlier with the mixes so yay. Shame though that Do You Think of Me didn't make it onto the Dreamlover EP but I am still hopeful we will get a B Sides EP before these celebrations are over. (Friday 7 August 2020; 07:14)

New TOTP videos (94,853) by Bill from the UK MC uploaded HD versions of Dreamlover and Anytime You Need a Friend from Top of the Pops earlier today, available on her YouTube account. (Friday 7 August 2020; 01:07)

Re: Article: Should have been bigger: Mariah's "Triumphant (Get 'Em)" (94,839) (94,849) by Bill from the UK For the record I don't detest any Mariah song. I'd sooner listen to a "bad" Mariah track over anything by any other artist. That's why she's my favourite. It's just when it's stacked up against Vision of Love, Always Be My Baby, Migrate (should have been a single), The Roof, Anytime You Need a Friend, Dreamlover, Emotions, All I Want for Christmas Is You, Languishing, Make It Happen, Vanishing, Can't Let Go, Fantasy, My All, Crybaby, We Belong Together, Lead the Way, Underneath the Stars, And You Don't Remember, All In Your Mind, Never Forget You, Honey, You're So Cold, Butterfly, Never Too Far, Miss You Most At Christmas Time, Breakdown, Slipping Away, Heartbreaker, Through the Rain, Shake It Off, Touch My Body, Ribbon, Don't Forget About Us and Melt Away, Triumphant doesn't hold a candle. (Thursday 6 August 2020; 23:06)

Re: Dreamteam (94,838) (94,845) by Bill from the UK Thank you. (Thursday 6 August 2020; 19:16)

Re: Triumphant (94,827) (94,835) by Bill from the UK That's hard to believe. I doubt the record company would fund the music video, which was quite a spectacle, as well as hiring the two (count them, two) guest rappers for the song. Triumphant was originally the launch title for The Art of Letting Go. A Mariah Carey launch single is not paid from out of the petty cash tin. The moment radio, fans, and the general public ignored it (because it wasn't very good), it became a "buzz" single. In reality, Mariah was more than likely ordered back into the studio to re-work the album into Me I Am Mariah. Had Triumphant hit number one, the album would have followed. Would we discount it from her tally of number ones, as it was only written for her ill husband? I think not. Mariah is an artist like all others with hits and misses. I know, we're used to her usually being at the top end of the charts, so a flop single is particularly hard for some to come to terms with. But she is not infallible. Thankfully though her hits, currently, outweigh her missteps. You can't keep excusing these missteps as buzz singles, never intended to be a hit, etc. because it simply isn't true. (Thursday 6 August 2020; 14:10)

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