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About Terna from Nigeria:
Fan since 1998 - The "Butterfly" Era. However my Fave Era ever? will always be - The Emancipation of Mimi, if you're a true Lamb, you know.
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Vocals getting better (104,439)
by Terna from Nigeria
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I think with the recent voice issues, she's begun to get more serious than in the past where those opinions stem from. As a singer, you can't afford to not acknowledge your voice needs absolute care and attention and I think she gets it now. Constant singing is also exercise for the voice especially if she's resting well afterwards. She's gotten much better than that first show in terms of tone and flexibility, the ease of singing is also coming back hence the absence of staccato. I do hope it gets even better.
(Wednesday 6 December 2023; 20:09)
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Vocals getting better (104,434)
by Chicago Lamb from USA
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Mariah isn't fastidious about exercising her voice. Regimented vocal exercise is considered bleak. She starts the first show dry and then as shows continue, she warms up. She recorded much of TEOM after the Charmbracelet tour as she said it left her voice in a good place. As a teenager, she respected opera but it was too restrictive, confining. She wanted to be freer with her voice.
(Wednesday 6 December 2023; 13:12)
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Rockin' Around #1 (104,407)
by Terna from Nigeria
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I smell a rat. The song didn't even have a bullet on the chart as of last week, now suddenly it is number one. I call bull.
(Tuesday 5 December 2023; 00:19)
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Rockin' Around #1 (104,398)
by enwar00 from usa
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It's officially #1 on the Billboard Hot 100. Congrats to Brenda Lee. I imagine Mariah is gracious and happy for her. Maybe this can further help against ageism and Mimi can get to #1 in decades to come still.
(Monday 4 December 2023; 21:04)
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Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,391)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Speaking of Spotify, many users cannot login for a few weeks now, and some have been complaining of automatic subscriptions to premium even though they did not initiate the request, their Facebook customer support is overrun with many complaints. Weird.
(Monday 4 December 2023; 15:45)
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Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,389)
by Pedro from Brazil
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AIWFCIY was demoted on several Christmas playlists on Spotify, where it used to be in the top positions (some fans noticed that some playlists even removed the song). Boycott? RATCT was elevated on Spotify playlists, perhaps with help from the record label, which is why it's getting more plays than AIWFCIY. It's a question of position in the playlist. The higher it is, the more it will be played.
(Monday 4 December 2023; 14:27)
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Emotions formula (104,385)
by Terna from Nigeria
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You're not about to school me on Aretha Franklin. First of all not every song or performance she had was Gospel influenced (most weren't) just because her roots were in gospel and she started in church that's implying singers such as she was (Whitney too comes to mind) are kinda a one trick pony, just because their roots are in Gospel. That woman was one of the most versatile singers that would ever walk the face of this Earth - case in point, "Nessum Dorma" 1998, the Grammy Awards. We have streaming services in this day and age for you to do your research and don't come here making a fool of yourself.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 22:43)
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Emotions formula (104,364)
by BFF from United States
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Everything Aretha performed was gospel-influenced because she grew up ensconced in the African-American gospel tradition. She was, I will remind you, the daughter of a prominent minister. "Soul" music would not exist without gospel, blues, rock and jazz. It is a hybrid genre like pop.
You posted tons of strong opinions about "Emotions" as an album. Now others are responding. If you can't handle it, don't post lol.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:07)
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Emotions formula (104,384)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Weak. I am entitled to my opinions, same as every other person. If you don't agree, move along. [#17
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 22:31)
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Emotions formula (104,358)
by Jamie from UK
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Seems you only like things your way. [You're] usually wrong as seen over and over on this forum. I can't help but think "if it's over" for your opinions.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:59)
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We lost the #1 (104,355)
by Terna from Nigeria
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She'll be #1 next week, Brenda can settle for number 3.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:59)
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We lost the #1 (104,351)
by Edward from USA
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Billboard will publish the new chart on Monday, but tomorrow we'll know for sure. Brenda is ahead on Spotify but Apple Music is bigger on this side of the pond, and Mariah is ahead on that one. Mariah is also bigger in sales. It's kind of weird, when Mariah re-entered the chart at 17, Brenda was just bubbling under the Hot 100, then she re-entered at 8 and Mariah jumped to number 4. Judging by the pattern, Brenda is gathering steam way faster. I guess we lost this one. Congrats to Brenda.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 04:11)
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Emotions formula (104,353)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Well we agree to disagree now don't we ? No need to be aggressive about it and come with the name calling, getting all ruffled about a simple opinion. And "Chain of Fools" and "Think" Gospel inflected? Now that's a first, confusing Soul with Gospel. Get Your genres right Mr.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:12)
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Emotions formula (104,348)
by BFF from United States
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You lost me at "If It's Over" as filler. This is one of the best songs in her catalogue. Aretha did plenty of dark gospel-style breakup songs, see "Chain of Fools", "Think", etc. What a silly criticism of an excellent song.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 01:09)
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Emotions formula (104,335)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Let's count the fillers on "Emotions" shall we? 1. "And you don't Remember" - I rarely play this song, it just isn't strong enough and is indeed one of her weaker ballads with a high note thrown in just because. 2. "So Blessed" - I personally love this song, but I also recognize it ain't no classic and quite forgettable. Even Mariah herself was like "oh please which so blessed" when the lambs made her pick an absolute favorite in a versus format a few years back. 3. "You're So Cold" - Oh my, what a waste of space a better song would've occupied and it was 5 whole minutes long, hideous. Skipped every single time. 4. "If it's Over" - Another weak ballad with a high note thrown in. This song actually is sort of disjointed, as its feel doesn't match the lyrics. It is a breakup song that sounds Gospel. With the gospel sound, one expects to hear an uplifting lyric or inspiring one, but this is dark. She got it right with "I am free" and "Anytime you need a friend". This record was also kinda what turned the general public off her high notes because the placements came across as "just because", and with such a display on the title track, the rest should've had it toned way down in the background like on "Can't Let Go". The saving grace for this album are her vocals which are top notch capturing just how powerful her instrument is.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:06)
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Emotions formula (104,317)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I would 1000% agree with all saying that Emotions is the superior album, far and away. The debut sounds so dated in 2023, where as Emotions has a pure timelessness to it, plus one of Mariah's more unique album art (meaning not just a close up of her face, or in a power stance).
(Friday 1 December 2023; 23:23)
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Emotions formula (104,334)
by Terna from Nigeria
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"E=MC2 is definitely a better record than The Emancipation of Mimi." I didn't bother reading the rest. Sit down Andrew.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 19:25)
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Emotions formula (104,323)
by Andrew from the UK
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"The numbers never lie"? Do you mean sales equate quality? That's a dangerous path to walk when talking Mariah Carey albums. Is every album that sold more than Butterfly better than it? Many will agree, but a great many will disagree. I will say this, an as example: E=MC2 is definitely a better record than The Emancipation of Mimi, despite selling far less.
What, then, if you had to select three post-1997 ballads to be sung to Mariah in tribute at an awards show would you and others select? They need to be well-known and within the capability of the artists selected to sing them.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 11:29)
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Emotions formula (104,316)
by Terna from Nigeria
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I'll just say this, between those two records, one is on the cusp of being certified Diamond - her third if I might add, while the other still has a long way to go (the numbers never lie). There's a reason why "Vision of Love" and "Love Takes Time" were the songs chosen for the tribute - they are instantly recognizable classics (even in that time), that have stood the test of time, the kind of songs seasoned songwriters would kill to have to their credit, written by a then 19 year old a testament in itself and can only be found on the most stellar debut ever by an artist - Mariah Carey.
(Friday 1 December 2023; 21:00)
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Emotions formula (104,314)
by Andrew from the UK
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""Emotions" was also a near sophomore slump that just wasn't as strong as the first record, neither were the tunes even as memorable like the debut."
I must differ, also. But go with me here, you may be surprised how this ends. "Emotions", the album, is superior to "Mariah Carey", its predecessor. The former has 80's-hangover style production, far less sophisticated lyrics, and basic tunes on half the record. The latter has the title track, Can't Let Go, Make It Happen, So Blessed and the majestic Till The End of Time - it is, in every aspect, superior. "Mariah Carey" had to have a great ballad shoe-horned onto the end of it to make it better. It is thus far the only MC album I have never owned.
However, everything else in your post is *cough* spot on. The singing style, too-clever melodies and over-production is old hat. It makes it very difficult for songs to be sung in karaoke or in tribute.
It is slightly frustrating that in tribute to Mariah she - and we - had to listen to Vision of Love and Love Takes Time. She has written over one hundred songs since then. But what successful ones can be reproduced? I think we all need and want to move past the pre-No.1's catalogue, right?
Chest voice not head voice. Semi-tone keychange not octave keychange. Simple structure chord progression not complicated altered second verse with no middle eight chord progression. Meaningful Universal lyrics not Fritos kitchen window lyrics. On trend producers not, well, Jermaine Dupri.
(Friday 1 December 2023; 17:17)
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Emotions formula (104,297)
by Terna from Nigeria
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I beg to differ, I don't need her trying to revisit an old formula, "Emotions" was also a near sophomore slump that just wasn't as strong as the first record, neither were the tunes even as memorable like the debut. Mariah is talented enough and creative enough to come up with something fresh, music genres out her comfort zone and especially working with newer producers who have their fingers on the current pulse of music and where it's going, for a fresh sound. Secondly her singing style is dated, too decorated she needs to tone down the girlie "curliecues" and sing straight, mainly with her chest voice, for balance and contrast, so that when she does falsett, it is a breath of fresh air (she did this with great pleasant effect in the late 90's), it just got over bearing from the Charmbracelet era, was too much and very off putting. Her vocal delivery has to be spot on for this new album. I do agree that she needs a return to adult contemporary ballads but sung in her range - "Through the Rain" suffered from this - a beautiful ballad, a very memorable melody but sung too high that the audience cannot sing along. (This is why Adele works so well.) Finally, a change of hair colour or return to her brunette curls - the former would be preferred. Get that tired blonde color retired at least for an era, it ages you 15 minutes.
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 11:11)
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Emotions formula (104,291)
by Bobby A from United States
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We need another album of Hot AC and R&B ballads, Carole King type of ballads, inspirational bops and a 70s R&B female group sample. That was Emotions. We need another Emotions album.
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 00:55)
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Would you rather (104,276)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Both actually, now that would be a massive treat for her Lambies and would make up for the 3 year drought. I still wanna hear "Where are you Christmas", "Into the Light", "Alive", and "Reach for the Stars" just to name a few.
(Wednesday 29 November 2023; 18:39)
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Would you rather (104,264)
by Tevin from USA
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I'm quite curious to read everyone's opinion. For 2024, would you rather have Mariah releases a 10 to 12 tract Rarities 2 album, where half of the songs are never before heard songs, or would you rather see here release a brand new 10 to 12 song studio album?
(Tuesday 28 November 2023; 18:50)
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Grio Awards performances (104,235)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Patti killed it as expected and Jennifer Hudson tore up "Vision of Love". I [loved] that declaration Jhud said before the final note "we love you" and [indeed] we do Mariah.
(Sunday 26 November 2023; 17:57)
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View from here (104,178)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Your ears have aged a tad bit now haven't they? The clip I posted, I clearly acknowledged Mariah is having some form of vocal issues, that covers the fact I know she prerecorded some parts. I just didn't want to dwell on that, unlike your toxic self that thrives in such as we can see from this post. What I was pointing out were the non Christmas songs medley she pulled out and sang live and still killed it voice problems and all. Try and be a better person. Smh. Like every other obstacle Mariah's faced and overcame which we have been witness to, this voice issue too will be a thing of the past very soon and she will blow once more like we know she can.
(Thursday 23 November 2023; 12:28)
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View from here (104,170)
by Andrew from the UK
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It isn't the lip-syncing that bothers me about the Billboard performance or the Christmas shows. You would have to be delusional with a capital Terna not to have expected there to be lipsync. And, having a PhD in Mariah Carey Lip-Sync, I was quite impressed as I had to replay certain parts to really understand if they were lip-sync or not. (They were.) But the songs sound okay from what I have watched and if people are having a ball in the auditoria then good for them.
What's truly puzzling at best (and truly worrisome at worst) is Mariah's rigidity. She rarely moves. More's the point: she rarely moves to an almost inhuman degree. It was even so on the Jennifer Hudson show. I neither see nor know of *any* artist who is so frozen in expression and in movement. I don't even know of any *person* in real life who behaves so. Does anyone? It's really weird, you guys. Something is not right, here. In fact, I would go so far as to say: something is very wrong here.
One of the things I loved that Mariah lost was her command of the stage and ability to entertain. She would run up and down the bloody thing, punch the invisible ghosts, slap them in the face many times when going for big notes, activate the garage doors by pressing the secret button in her ear, spin around, laugh, dance, point to people and tell them she sees them up there in the cheap seats, get excited when she can read some of the signs (do people still do signs?) and so on. Where did this go? And why?
I don't think anyone is asking for 90s vocals. But I think they're sure as shit asking for 90s performances. And quite rightly so. They were bloody good fun.
(Thursday 23 November 2023; 04:55)
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Bryan Tanaka (104,112)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Go for the concert.
(Saturday 18 November 2023; 19:48)
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Bryan Tanaka (104,105)
by Jamie from UK
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I don't think I'm gonna go the NYC concert after watching clips. Gonna step this one out and see what next year brings.
(Saturday 18 November 2023; 11:08)
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Clips (104,111)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Yeah she's a little bit low energy, but she pulled out songs she hasn't sung in almost 10 years and killed it and she's singing live. Mariah is going through real vocal issues and I wish the fans would be a little bit more understanding. She obviously has taken our advice and seen some form of voice therapist and or coach because she sounds much better than she did this time last year and even all the way back to the pandemic year. I hope she gets even better.
(Saturday 18 November 2023; 19:48)
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What happened to Brandy's voice? (104,063)
by Terna from Nigeria
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We always like to ask that in Mariah's case, but what about Brandy? What happened to that agile, pristine, silvery color-filled voice she used to have? Especially on "Never Say Never". Honestly in terms of vocal tone, she was up there with Whitney and Mariah, so pleasant to the ears. Her version of "Everything I do (I do it for you)" floored me, literally chills every time I play that song. Now she's (for a lack of words to describe it) monochrome and bland. Her new Christmas album is a total snooze fest. Ugh.
(Wednesday 15 November 2023; 14:17)
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Whatsapp group (104,050)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Yeah right. Eric dear consider it. [Webmaster: I don't use Whatsapp, but you're free to make one yourself.]
(Tuesday 14 November 2023; 09:35)
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Whatsapp group (104,033)
by Mara from United States
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Terna that's a great idea and I would love to be a part of something like that in real time.
(Monday 13 November 2023; 07:07)
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Whatsapp group (104,029)
by Terna from Nigeria
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We should have a dysfunctional Whatsapp group by now shouldn't we? Where we can communicate in real time and also be able to drag Andrew and Randy at random just because. Especially Andrew, during the Christmas seasons a tradition Special K started a while back for that wig comment he made.
(Sunday 12 November 2023; 18:28)
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Birthday wishes from Mimi to Andrew (104,028)
by Terna from Nigeria
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You need a hiatus too.
(Sunday 12 November 2023; 18:16)
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Birthday wishes from Mimi to Andrew (104,025)
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He calls himself a lamb Yet gets on those boards Trash talks who I am My scuffed up vocal cords
He goes low with my weight My lighting gets his scorn Today I must say mate I curse that you were born
An original poem by Randy. He's on hiatus from the board but it's so funny he said I could post it.
(Sunday 12 November 2023; 17:29)
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Saint Harison (104,026)
by Terna from Nigeria
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The Grammies. She already played to that tune multiple times over the span of the 90's and they paid her dust every single time, even when it was obvious that her's was the superior work. Mariah is not worried about that scam of a show trust me. They on the other hand through might be bothered seeing as I read somewhere on social media (IG) she's been nominated for the Hunter remix of "Working hard".
(Sunday 12 November 2023; 18:13)
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by Bobby A from United States
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Okay, I understand. Love Takes Time is MC at her best. If we could just get back to that type of ballad, just maybe the Grammys will recognize MC with several nominations and awards in the near future. I really feel that she has gotten the memo. Plus, she is older now and she can't have rappers featured on her songs as much.
(Sunday 12 November 2023; 14:35)
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It's time (103,931)
by Terna from Nigeria
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You gotta be kidding. Already and to think there was doubt that she's not the queen of Christmas.
(Wednesday 1 November 2023; 14:14)
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It's time (103,930)
by Bobby A from United States
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AIWFCIY has debuted at number #70 on the Hot 100. How long will it take this year to make it to #1? I predict it will be #1 two weeks after Thanksgiving. It hit #1 on December 17th last year through December 31st and January 1st-8th for 5 weeks in 2022.
(Wednesday 1 November 2023; 12:01)
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Merry Christmas to you too (103,882)
by Terna from Nigeria
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No, just no she's over doing the Christmas thingy and it could easily backfire and have everyone tune out mentally on her Christmas offerings, including AIWFCIY. I sure hope she isn't cooking up another Christmas album. That would be overkill. The only thing Christmas themed I would want to hear from her is an official recording of "Away in a Manger" with Roe Roe and her own version of "Where are you Christmas". Mariah dear, absolutely no new Christmas albums for you.
(Thursday 26 October 2023; 03:05)
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Merry Christmas to you too (103,875)
by Edward from USA
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I'm definitely down for a third Christmas album, but it should only contain new music. I don't want any new rework from past albums. I have the feeling the "theme album" she was talking about is a Christmas album, and it might be coming out soon.
(Wednesday 25 October 2023; 21:58)
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On the subjects of tours (103,881)
by Terna from Nigeria
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"It's not Sam Smith's responsibility to protect children, that's what their parents are for." Libra Lamb, I usually agree with your points of view except this one. That argument is very dated especially in the smartphone/social media age we live in today, with the entertainment industry practically inescapable. Audio and video streaming are at kids' fingertips with just a simple click most notably YouTube. Sam Smith went from being a respectable singer who came across as super talented, to straight up gender confused clown show, kinda like what happened with Miley Cyrus and the world immediately tuned off and out on those two. To think there was much a do about Mariah dressing sexy in the late 90's, when compared to the stunts pulled by today's acts she would be Mary Poppins. The difference is Mariah did hers with class and never crossed the line, Sam Smith and Miley did in a very repulsive way.
(Thursday 26 October 2023; 02:58)
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On the subjects of tours (103,877)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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As a grown ass person, you should know that it's not Sam Smith's responsibility to protect children, that's what their parents are for. The parents are 100% responsible for raising their children and protecting them from such things. As an artist, and an adult, he can do whatever he wants on and off that stage. Nice try, but no. I do agree that children should be protected until they are old enough to understand and make up their own minds, but again, that's the parent's responsibility.
(Wednesday 25 October 2023; 22:42)
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Gift (103,762)
by Terna from Nigeria
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It must be tiring being you, having to keep jumping in and out of peoples' replies, to keep spilling negativity. You're ripe for another ban.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 19:41)
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by Andrew from the UK
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I had one of those moments, reading your message, when I said "What a gift to scientific research."
(Thursday 12 October 2023; 23:36)
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