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About Bill from the UK: I love Mariah more than you do. London Daydream Tour Attendee.

Re: Signature song (92,032) (92,036) by Bill from the UK I'm all over the place? I actually laughed out loud at that. Good one. That's rich coming from someone who didn't even read my message correctly or understand it and made a silly knee jerk response off the back of it. Allow me to break it down for you in bite size chunks. 1. Mariah has been in the industry for 30 years. 2. Mariah is 50 years old. 3. 30 years times 2 is 60 years. 4. 50 plus those 30 years is 80. Starting to make sense? If it isn't, concentrate more in mathematics. Mariah is unlikely to still be performing at her current rate at 80 years old (she has already slowed down in the last decade), and therefore it is safe to presume she is indeed in the second half of her career. Again, stating that is a fact and not an insult. Please do go back to my original post and point out where I wrote that being so is such a terrible thing. I'll help you out again with that one as you're struggling. I didn't do that. I was, in fact, paying her a compliment for so successfully riding the crest of the AIWFCIY wave and capitalizing on the song's unending popularity. At no point did I detract from any of her many achievements in the past decade. In future, before you start berating people here's two pieces of advice: be sure you've read and understood what the person has said to avoid making a complete idiot of yourself, and really make sure you knuckle down when you get back to school. (Monday 30 December 2019; 21:28)

Re: Signature song (92,029) (92,030) by Bill from the UK How is a fact shade? She's 50, not 20. If she's still putting out records at 80 I'll come back and say I was factually incorrect. (Monday 30 December 2019; 15:24)

Re: Signature song (92,022) (92,028) by Bill from the UK I don't see it as a gimmick, especially as Mariah herself has embraced it. AIWFCIY has given the second half of her career continued mileage rather than us seeing her fading into legendary irrelevance. (Monday 30 December 2019; 01:03)

Re: Fourth of July acapella (92,009) (92,018) by Bill from the UK Oh how I love Breakdown. I was listening to that earlier, on repeat. The whole Butterfly album has such an understated class to it. I'm with you in that it's not my go to album like most, but it's probably her "best" album in terms of being a great representation of her song writing, her vocals, her wall of sound, and the genres she operates in. (Sunday 29 December 2019; 14:35)

Re: Signature song (92,015) (92,017) by Bill from the UK I'm not detracting from ABMB. I love it, everyone loves it. But ask the 55 year old guy on the desk next to you at work to name a Mariah Carey song, and it's going to be AIWFCIY or Hero. Ask a 17 year old in the street and it will be AIWFCIY. A signature song is by definition the tune identified by people who don't know the artist's material. Sinead O'Connor's signature tune is Nothing Compares 2 U. I know she's been around for decades and has, I've no doubt, made many albums I'm sure, but that's her signature song because it's the one everybody outside the orbit of a seasoned fan knows. ABMB did indeed debut at number 3. It's chart run was 3, 4, 10, 13, 20, 27, 30, 39 and then it left the top 40. By comparison Hero's chart run was 8, 7, 11, 9, 15, 18, 18, 18, 15, 14, 23 and then left the top 40. It didn't peak as high, but you can see it hung around a fair bit longer and also even went up and down positions during its run. And for good measure AIWFCIY's run(s) in the top 40 were: 1994: 5, 2, 2, 2, 8, 28 2007: 23, 8, 4, 6, 20 2008: 37, 17, 12, 17, 25 2009: 29, 19, 21, 18 2010: 22, 23, 25, 31 2011: 27, 12, 11, 12 2012: 30, 20, 21, 20 2013: 14, 12, 13, 30 2014: 17, 16, 18, 20 2015: 35, 13, 12, 11, 37 2016: 29, 6, 8, 5, 5 2017: 34, 22, 5, 2, 4, 4 2018: 34, 6, 5, 4, 2 2019: 34, 8, 6, 8, 2 Sorry, I geek out on stuff like this. As you can see though, AIWFCIY is actually becoming more popular as the years pass by. Unfortunately other Mariah classics that we all love haven't seen the same resurgence. I do agree though, I would love for her other material to get the recognition it deserves, but there's no denying really that AIWFCIY is her global hit. It is her I Will Always Love You/My Heart Will Go On. I'm not sure why people are upset that her signature song has become a Christmas song though, I'm so grateful that she has a song that is universally loved by all and will secure her legacy long after Mariah and ourselves have all left this world. But we love all the songs. Except Boy. (Sunday 29 December 2019; 14:26)

Re: Auld Lang Syne video (92,003) (92,004) by Bill from the UK Haha. It's up there with "100%" and its elongated thinning camera lens in terms of bad videos. I think Auld Lang Syne took all of 20 minutes to film and edit together lol. (Sunday 29 December 2019; 00:11)

Re: Signature song (91,991) (91,996) by Bill from the UK It is definitely AIWFCIY. That song will go on for generations like White Christmas and The Christmas Song (Chestnuts). It's used in TV ads, it's her most covered song, and it's now the song everyone associates with her and the song non-fans enjoy. It's completely captured this generation as evidenced by it becoming her 19th number one in the US. As great as Always Be My Baby is, for all the reasons you listed, it never made a lasting impact outside the US. It's never played on the radio (again, other than the US) and it quickly fell out of every non-fan's memory after its initial chart run over 20 years ago. The only other song of hers that would come close to AIWFCIY is Hero, in terms of signature song status. But why fight it? Sure it may have been a bit overkill this year but I think that was due to the anniversary and the push for number one. I really enjoyed the ride this season, with all the new videos (unreleased footage, St John the Divine, Tokyo Dome HD, and the Make My Wish Come True version), the deluxe edition of the album, the coherent interviews, the brilliant Walkers ad, the concerts, and then the number one. It's been great. I think you might be suffering from AIWFCIY fatigue which is understandable. I still think it is single handedly the best thing she has ever done. (Saturday 28 December 2019; 08:06)

Re: (91,915) (91,918) by Bill from the UK You're not getting it. What I was saying was that despite the fact her voice has changed, no one is disrespecting her because of that, because it happens. Caution was great because she sings now in a comfortable range and toned down the acrobatics that she can't replicate live. This is a good thing and the right way forward for her. The best thing she did recently was Unforgettable and that was sung in her current vocal with no gimmicks and flourishes, and it sounded brilliant and the song was great. (Monday 23 December 2019; 19:09)

Re: (91,913) (91,914) by Bill from the UK When are you back at school? Lol, joking. No one is disrespecting Mariah from any of the posts I've read. But don't be dillusional. A fact is a fact and Mariah's voice was brilliant in the 90s and is not on par currently due to her own lifestyle choices and general aging. (Monday 23 December 2019; 15:10)

Re: Wally A listed first (91,891) (91,896) by Bill from the UK I think it's purely alphabetical by surname, looking at how YouTube does similar for other songs. (Sunday 22 December 2019; 16:59)

YouTube Q&A (91,888) by Bill from the UK So this was great. I laughed out loud when she was talking about the Daydream tour and said, "It was only a ten city tour because back then I wasn't allowed to leave the house. But we've come a long way, we can leave the house now. It's good." Oh Mariah. How I love your wit. Thank you to Fernando for suggesting she releases the Daydream tour to celebrate the anniversary. I could see the cogs turning in her head. The Japan stretch was great but let's face it, Rotterdam and London (which I attended FYI) were incredible. (Sunday 22 December 2019; 14:27)

Re: Please (91,871) (91,879) (91,885) by Bill from the UK Adam, thank you. You articulate so well what I can never manage to get across haha. I will always love and support Mariah and her music, and always look forward to new albums from her, whatever the style. If she comes out with Caution 2, Merry Christmas 3, or my longed for jazz standards album (with some MC originals in that style of course - think Christmas In NY), then I'll be happy. Saying that, those gunning for the 20th #1, another Emancipation era, or a big selling album, don't hold you breath if she doesn't change gear with the new record. R&B peppered with hip hop, samples, and guest rappers will be appreciated, and well received across her fan base I'm sure, but she will really need to do something left field to get attention. By that I mean, imagine if she self-wrote and produced an album single handedly by herself. That would be amazing. She's often expressed her annoyance with how over produced the debut album was. Imagine for the 30th if she re-worked the original tracks, updated it, removed the 80s gloss and stripped it down? Or if she re-sang the songs in a new style? Something like that would be amazing. (Sunday 22 December 2019; 13:46)

Re: Walter A. gets really candid (91,839) (91,850) by Bill from the UK I have to keep reminding myself you're still in school and have only been a Mariah fan for like a year. All the sensible, measured and reasonable respondents to your wailing are adults who were buying Mariah records before you were born. So it is what it is. Walter is an incredibly successful and talented producer and songwriter who has had many independent successes, as has been mentioned. And like it or not, Tommy was the one who insisted Mariah make a Christmas album. Her initial response was "stop trying to turn me into Connie Francis" and now she's the much adorned Queen of Christmas, and has made somewhat of a latter day career on that element alone, with Christmas concerts, endorsements, movies, books, and merchandise. No one is taking anything away from Mariah. We're all fans and acknowledge her talent, but she hasn't achieved what she has single handedly. (Saturday 21 December 2019; 11:49)

Re: Price Sisters plus Melanie Daniels (91,814) (91,822) by Bill from the UK Oh I agree they were amazing. It's almost as if Merry Christmas should be Mariah feat. The Price Sisters and Melonie as they really made that album what it is. I think the only songs they don't appear on are Miss You Most (at Christmas Time) and God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen. That acapella of them on YouTube singing Jesus Oh What a Wonderful Child is beautiful. That gospel, soulful choir sound they brought to the records is very much missed. (Friday 20 December 2019; 19:32)

Re: Walter A. gets really candid (91,801) (91,808) by Bill from the UK Playing devil's advocate here, it is unfortunate that what should be a happy time of celebration for the pair is mired with Walter receiving death threats online. I mean, come on guys. Death threats? Over a co-writing credit? Grow up. Sometimes being a Mariah fan is embarrassing. Walter played every instrument on that record and gave it the undeniable Christmas sheen. Just listen to the instrumental and tell me that isn't a work of genius. That along with the incredible background vocals from the Price Sisters and Melonie D, and Mariah's flawless and dynamic vocal delivery and brilliant lyric is what created this classic. Everybody involved played their part perfectly. (Friday 20 December 2019; 12:27)

Re: Oh Santa late late (91,784) (91,788) by Bill from the UK Agree, Oh Santa is a good song in its own right, it's just a shame it will forever be compared against the timeless juggernaut that is AIWFCIY. I absolutely love the "cheerleader chant" that the song has, and agree the upper register is fantastic. Although MCIIY is not considered one of her best albums, it really is a nice complement to Merry Christmas, with some beautiful moments. O Come All Ye Faithful with Pat, When Christmas Comes, The First Noel and One Child are just beautiful. (Thursday 19 December 2019; 16:24)

Re: I wash this was a real remix (91,778) (91,781) by Bill from the UK That was brilliant. (Thursday 19 December 2019; 11:02)

Re: Billboard week of 12.28 (91,761) (91,763) by Bill from the UK Yes you are right with Hero, thank you and well said. (Wednesday 18 December 2019; 20:59)

Re: Billboard week of 12.28 (91,752) (91,754) by Bill from the UK I think people are more being factual rather than clutching at straws. Let's not forget this very same thing happened with One Sweet Day. It appeared on both 1995/1996 year end charts, because it was a number one in both years, and it was both the last number one of 1995 and the first number one of 1996. Wikipedia lists all the number ones of the Hot 100 era, click on 1995 and then 1996 and you'll see One Sweet Day on both lists. So, as much as you may not like it, this is the fact of the matter and how current chart rulings are applied. If Mariah stays at number one with AIWFCIY, it will be viewed as being across two separate decades. Sorry. (Wednesday 18 December 2019; 18:48)

Re: Billboard week of 12.28 (91,743) (91,745) by Bill from the UK But charts are different. If someone said "what was the last number one of 2019", the answer is Mariah. If, a week later, someone else asks the unrelated question of "what was the first number one of 2020", the answer is Mariah. If a list is compiled tracking all number ones from January 2020 to December 2029, Mariah will be on the list. Equally if a list is compiled tracking all number ones from 2010 to 2019, Mariah is on that list as well. We love everybody. (Wednesday 18 December 2019; 14:11)

O Holy Night acapella (91,693) by Bill from the UK As if AIWFCIY going to number one wasn't a great Christmas present, the acapella of O Holy Night is now on YouTube. (Monday 16 December 2019; 23:03)

AIWFCIY #1 (91,683) by Bill from the UK I've just read an article on Billboard that AIWFCIY has indeed (and finally) become Mariah's 19th number one and has topped the Hot 100 (exclamation mark). Merry Christmas everybody, what wonderful news. Congratulations to the US fans for all you did to "make it happen", and to Mariah and her team for all their efforts. 19th number one in 2019. (Monday 16 December 2019; 20:27)

Re: Caution (91,658) (91,670) by Bill from the UK But let's not dance around the obvious here. Mariah returns to the top ten on both sides of the Atlantic with an amazing song every year. This proves that all she needs to be a top ten artist again is a brilliant song. To be blunt, her last few albums have been absolutely fine, but there's not been any "wow" song. No Fantasy. No Heartbreaker. No We Belong Together (but plenty of imitations). She's got it in her to knock it out the park as she proves every year, but she opts to instead tell us to GTFO and then follows that with yet another carbon copy of a 15 year old song. Caution was a good album but I doubt it will be remembered like the string of albums Music Box through to Butterfly and then Emancipation. But we are where we are and we love everybody. (Monday 16 December 2019; 19:09)

Re: AIWFCIY with Whitney Houston (91,660) (91,668) by Bill from the UK I was just about to post this. Came up on my recommendations. I love the whistles at the end, sounds brilliant. (Monday 16 December 2019; 19:02)

Re: Look at the lambs (91,631) (91,644) by Bill from the UK Just be careful you don't put your signature jinx on things though (remember how Caution was going to outsell Thriller?). Don't tempt fate. Just enjoy the song's ride and hope that it gets what it deserves. If it doesn't, then so be it. (Sunday 15 December 2019; 10:22)

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