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#2s (106,353)
by BFF from United States
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"The concept of this video is I have a tan line on my butt." - Mariah on the "Loverboy" video. 
(Sunday 5 May 2024; 13:05)
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#2s (106,349)
by Randy from USA
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Thanks for that. There were some surprises for me as well. I Believe I Can Fly, Can't Nobody Hold Me Down and a few others I thought went to number one. You know I had to go watch the 2000s number 2s so I could see Loverboy and Shake It Off Tee Hee.
(Saturday 4 May 2024; 15:43)
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#2s (106,347)
by BFF from United States
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All #2 hits from the 1990s. Some really great songs on the list. I'm pretty surprised that Brian McKnight's "Back at One" never went to #1. Ditto for LeAnn Rimes' "How Do I Live". Both were huge when they were released.
(Saturday 4 May 2024; 14:27)
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#2s (106,343)
by Randy from USA
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Just to change up the air a bit. Yall know I'm a big chart junkie. Mariah is still the queen of #1. It always amazes me the songs that miss #1. Mariah has four #2s in her catalogue. Can't Let Go, Endless Love, Loverboy and Shake It Off. Some of my favorite songs by other artists are #2s. En Vogue never had a number one but all three of the first singles from their albums were #2s. Hold On, My Lovin (Never Gonna Get It), Don't Let Go (Love). Other #2s I regularly play Jewel You Were Meant For Me, Deborah Cox's Nobody's Supposed To Be Here, Whitney Houston ft Faith and Kelly Price Heartbreak Hotel, Madonna's Frozen, Material Girl and Express Yourself. Destiny's Child Survivor, Toni Braxton's He Wasn't Man Enough. Weird fact: Missy Elliot's Work It spent 10 weeks at #2 without ever hitting the top spot.
(Saturday 4 May 2024; 02:29)
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Las Vegas (106,180)
by BFF from United States
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I agree with you. She's charging way too much money for this show to be so heavily pre-recorded. Wouldn't it be better to just record in the studio and not tour?
She really needs to follow Linda Ronstadt's lead and stop doing live shows if she's only capable of a few minutes of live vocals. You can look at Mariah and tell that her heart isn't in it - there's no perspiration coming off of her, she's hardly moving, doesn't look winded at all. Whitney sounded awful during her last major tour (and really should not have done the tour) but at least Whitney sang mostly live.
(Monday 15 April 2024; 16:35)
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Las Vegas (106,172)
by Bill from the UK
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I'll always love Mariah, but a grand total of 2 minutes of actual live vocals from a 2 hour show is appalling. Mariah fans love to mock J. Lo, but Mariah herself is no better. I think I'm finally done with her now. There's nothing more to say. Good luck y'all.
(Monday 15 April 2024; 09:03)
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Las Vegas (106,153)
by BFF from United States
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It is really hard to tell if she is singing live at all. Seems like maybe she pre-recorded new versions of most songs to make it sound more like her "current voice". The vocals sound like her "current voice" but the audio sounds too smoothed out (i.e. no cracks in her voice). The "Butterfly" medley definitely seemed completely lip-synced. And she's certainly coming off incredibly stiff in terms of stage presence. Something just seems really off.
(Saturday 13 April 2024; 15:58)
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Las Vegas (106,147)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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I can't decide whether Mariah is actually singing some parts or the vocals are all pre recorded. In Without You, I think she sings to a back track first, but sings live some parts of the chorus, it's hard to tell, she has gotten much better at lip synching. She is still very stiff, but she moves a bit more freely than in the last few months. The stage was really nice though.
(Saturday 13 April 2024; 11:38)
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Yes, and? (105,507)
by BFF from United States
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My first thought when I saw the news about this release. Will Mariah start counting this as her 20th #1 record even though it went to number one *before* she appeared on a remixed version of it?
The song itself is pretty unimpressive, but most pop music these days is. I'm also very skeptical of any writing credit awarded to Ariana Grande, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, etc these days - especially if a professional songwriter like Max Martin is involved. My suspicion is that the song is brought to them 90 percent completed by professional producers/songwriters, and they then change a few lyrics or notes and consider that "writing".
*resumes enjoying the 30th anniversary edition of "Music Box"*
(Saturday 17 February 2024; 15:19)
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Yes, and? (105,467)
by Bill from the UK
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What does it mean when I prefer the AI Selfish over a real Mariah song?
(Friday 16 February 2024; 08:49)
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Tanaka (104,682)
by BFF from United States
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Moving forward, I think Mariah needs to date people closer to her own age and who don't give off the "fanboy" vibes. This is the second time that a relationship with someone significantly younger than her hasn't worked out. Nick and Tanaka both always came off as very adolescent and starstruck about Mariah. Mariah needs someone to be an equal partner, not a fawning admirer. I'm not sure she would like a partner like that, but it's what we all need.
It wasn't realistic for Tanaka to expect to have children with someone who is divorced with two pre-teen children in her early to mid 50s. They should have ended the relationship a while ago if that was an expectation. Tanaka is also 40 years old himself. I'm not sure I buy the "he wants kids" argument.
Maybe Mariah just got bored?
(Wednesday 27 December 2023; 14:01)
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Tanaka (104,673)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Bryan released a statement confirming what we've all probably already knew at this point that they broke up. This was one of her longest relationship and even though at first I didn't ship them (I thought it was Stella's influence and also that Mariah was in a vulnerable state and needed that confidence boost of dating someone hot and young) but over the years they seemed really happy. I never saw Bryan try to use his relation with Mariah to be more relevant/famous. Their relation seemed quite strong because Stella tried to break them up but eventually got fired. The breakup probably happened earlier in the year because Mariah was saying last Christmas was a very bad time for her. Rumor is that they separated because Bryan wanted a family but Mariah didn't (and I don't blame her, her pregnancy was difficult and I'm sure her priorities are different as she already has 2 kids).
(Tuesday 26 December 2023; 22:59)
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Another close call (104,531)
by BFF from United States
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I think Brenda's song appearing in the film Home Alone augmented its appeal to American audiences. Personally, I think Mariah's song is way better. Hopefully RATCT won't stay at #1 too long. There are other more deserving holiday songs.
I would love to see Chuck Berry's "Run Rudolph Run", Charles Brown's "Please Come Home for Christmas", or Darlene Love's "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)" hit number one. Though I think Mariah's cover of Darlene's song greatly improves on it.
(Wednesday 13 December 2023; 03:14)
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Another close call (104,523)
by Andrew from the UK
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Can somebody explain the appeal of RATCT to me and perhaps every single Brit here? Genuinely interested.
(Tuesday 12 December 2023; 20:19)
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Emotions formula (104,364)
by BFF from United States
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Everything Aretha performed was gospel-influenced because she grew up ensconced in the African-American gospel tradition. She was, I will remind you, the daughter of a prominent minister. "Soul" music would not exist without gospel, blues, rock and jazz. It is a hybrid genre like pop.
You posted tons of strong opinions about "Emotions" as an album. Now others are responding. If you can't handle it, don't post lol.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:07)
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Emotions formula (104,353)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Well we agree to disagree now don't we ? No need to be aggressive about it and come with the name calling, getting all ruffled about a simple opinion. And "Chain of Fools" and "Think" Gospel inflected? Now that's a first, confusing Soul with Gospel. Get Your genres right Mr.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:12)
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Emotions formula (104,348)
by BFF from United States
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You lost me at "If It's Over" as filler. This is one of the best songs in her catalogue. Aretha did plenty of dark gospel-style breakup songs, see "Chain of Fools", "Think", etc. What a silly criticism of an excellent song.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 01:09)
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Emotions formula (104,335)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Let's count the fillers on "Emotions" shall we? 1. "And you don't Remember" - I rarely play this song, it just isn't strong enough and is indeed one of her weaker ballads with a high note thrown in just because. 2. "So Blessed" - I personally love this song, but I also recognize it ain't no classic and quite forgettable. Even Mariah herself was like "oh please which so blessed" when the lambs made her pick an absolute favorite in a versus format a few years back. 3. "You're So Cold" - Oh my, what a waste of space a better song would've occupied and it was 5 whole minutes long, hideous. Skipped every single time. 4. "If it's Over" - Another weak ballad with a high note thrown in. This song actually is sort of disjointed, as its feel doesn't match the lyrics. It is a breakup song that sounds Gospel. With the gospel sound, one expects to hear an uplifting lyric or inspiring one, but this is dark. She got it right with "I am free" and "Anytime you need a friend". This record was also kinda what turned the general public off her high notes because the placements came across as "just because", and with such a display on the title track, the rest should've had it toned way down in the background like on "Can't Let Go". The saving grace for this album are her vocals which are top notch capturing just how powerful her instrument is.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:06)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,331)
by BFF from United States
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Brits sent the song "Sausage Rolls for Everyone" to #1 at Christmas time, so y'all don't have a leg to stand on in this regard. 
I'm not worried about Brenda Lee. I like the song, but Mariah's song is superior. They're different styles of song by different types of singers, so there's really no comparison here.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 15:11)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,324)
by Andrew from the UK
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Rockin Around The Christmas Tree is bloody awful. Why it is so popular in the United States is beyond comprehension. But, then, we are talking about a country that sprays cheese out of a can. I'll add it to the list of American Unforgivables.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 11:33)
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Emotions formula (104,330)
by BFF from United States
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I agree. "Emotions" is far and away a better album than the debut. The debut album is over-produced and lacks the personality and Mariah-ness that MC brought to subsequent albums.
Early on, Mariah correctly lamented that the record label watered down her sound for the album. I like the four singles and "Vanishing" from the album, but that's about it. I don't think I've ever listened to it all the way through.
The label really should have tried harder to support the "Emotions" album. It felt like they purposely held back on promotional push in order to "reign Mariah in" from taking more creative control and going in a more R&B/soul-based direction.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 15:00)
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Emotions formula (104,314)
by Andrew from the UK
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""Emotions" was also a near sophomore slump that just wasn't as strong as the first record, neither were the tunes even as memorable like the debut."
I must differ, also. But go with me here, you may be surprised how this ends. "Emotions", the album, is superior to "Mariah Carey", its predecessor. The former has 80's-hangover style production, far less sophisticated lyrics, and basic tunes on half the record. The latter has the title track, Can't Let Go, Make It Happen, So Blessed and the majestic Till The End of Time - it is, in every aspect, superior. "Mariah Carey" had to have a great ballad shoe-horned onto the end of it to make it better. It is thus far the only MC album I have never owned.
However, everything else in your post is *cough* spot on. The singing style, too-clever melodies and over-production is old hat. It makes it very difficult for songs to be sung in karaoke or in tribute.
It is slightly frustrating that in tribute to Mariah she - and we - had to listen to Vision of Love and Love Takes Time. She has written over one hundred songs since then. But what successful ones can be reproduced? I think we all need and want to move past the pre-No.1's catalogue, right?
Chest voice not head voice. Semi-tone keychange not octave keychange. Simple structure chord progression not complicated altered second verse with no middle eight chord progression. Meaningful Universal lyrics not Fritos kitchen window lyrics. On trend producers not, well, Jermaine Dupri.
(Friday 1 December 2023; 17:17)
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Triumphant (103,559)
by BFF from United States
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I think "Triumphant" had potential, but she should have scaled back the guest artists. I also remember one of the complaints about "#Beautiful" was her lack of presence on her own song. I love "#Beautiful" as a record, but I do remember wondering why Mariah was featured so little on her own song. I suspect that Miguel had already partially written/recorded the song before he and Mariah decided to collaborate.
(Saturday 23 September 2023; 16:08)
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Triumphant (103,557)
by Jamie from UK
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I really like Triumphant. I like the message behind it, I understand why it didn't do great as she's only technically featured on the chorus and the performance at rocafella just highlighted that fact as she just showed her face half way through the performance. So that didn't help. Perhaps if she's titled it Rick Ross-Meek Mill-Mariah Carey Triumphant it might have got more attention. As I think more people were too busy discussing her lack of presence on her own single as apposed to the actual song. But who knows. Fantastic remixes too.
(Saturday 23 September 2023; 14:04)
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MB30 - reflections (103,522)
by BFF from United States
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I always thought the Butterfly and Rainbow tour performances of "Without You" were live, but maybe I was wrong on those? The TOTP Christmas performance is a little suspect watching it again today.
And, Randy, I agree that Butterfly is her best album. But I think Music Box has been unfairly maligned by fans and critics alike. I cannot imagine Mariah Carey existing without songs like "Anytime You Need a Friend", "Dreamlover", and "Hero" and her cover of "Without You".
(Sunday 17 September 2023; 04:05)
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MB30 - reflections (103,518)
by Bill from the UK
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The pre-records for Without You actually began in 1994 for the Christmas TOTP performance. Then again at MSG in 1895, the Tokyo Dome dates of the Daydream tour in 1996, and then from Butterfly tour onwards.
(Sunday 17 September 2023; 02:22)
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MB30 - reflections (103,513)
by BFF from United States
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I wonder why there wasn't a single live performance of "Never Forget You". It was technically a double A-side single release with "Without You" in the United States and got some airplay on R&B radio. I think it's a wonderful song and makes me wish Mariah had attempted more sessions with Babyface.
I have also always wondered why "Anytime You Need a Friend" disappeared from her set lists between 1996 and 2019. It's easily one of her best "single" releases and every bit as good as "Make It Happen", "Vision of Love", and her other gospel-style compositions. Maybe it was too demanding/hard to sing with the decline in her voice? "Without You" is pretty demanding as well, but she kept it in the setlist and didn't start using pre-recorded tracks for it until the "Charmbracelet" tour.
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 16:30)
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MB30 - reflections (103,478)
by Bill from the UK
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Now some time has passed, here are my thoughts.
Disc 1: I've always loved the album, and never understood the group of fans that dismissed it. It's beautifully sung, expertly recorded, it showed more nuances to her voice than before, and her "pen game" as you kids call it these days for some reason, was superb. A 23 year-old writing Anytime You Need a Friend, Never Forget You, Hero, Dreamlover, Everything Fades Away? Wow. Speaking of Everything Fades Away, it was pleasing Mariah included this on the 'original' album. I know over the years each side of the pond has stated their case for the better finish to the album. Perhaps we can agree that All I've Ever Wanted is a gorgeous finale and send off, whereas Everything Fades Away is the hauntingly beautiful epilogue? Looking at this site's discography, more versions of the album included it than didn't, and it seems like Mariah herself views it as the true ending to the album.
Disc 2: Okay wow. It's strange how on The Rarities, All I Live For was just, there. It was a pleasant little bop, but I was like "yeah, I get why it was left off." How is the extended version like a thousand times better? Honestly it elevates the song to a whole new level, and her vocals are astonishing. Great to see Luther added, as I always viewed Endless Love as part of the Music Box era, and was surprised the album never got re-issued to include it after it did so well. Workin' Hard and My Prayer I can't keep away from. I adore them. I am so sad they were locked up in the vault for 30 years, but look at them now having their day in the sun. The TOTP performances and remixes I am happy with, especially as the two full-length 10-minute epic and iconic club mixes were included. The only small hang up I have is with Hero (2009 Version). Firstly, it was recorded in 2008, so let's get that out the way. Second, I think I would have preferred the Spanish version to be included as it was 'of the time', whereas this was a good stretch afterwards, so it feels somewhat out of place. Everything else is from the period (save the two new mixes). I detested the re-recording when it came out to promote The Ballads, but as I have mellowed I see it was what it was. It's fine now, I'm at peace with it, but yeh. It's the only point where I pause briefly.
Disc 3: We all love Proctor's Theatre don't we. What a concert. For many of us, the first one we saw. I also had two worn out VHS in my time, and then switched to the DVD when that was issued. It is my go-to 'comfort' concert. Whenever I've had a bad day and I need lifting up, or I'm perturbed by the world and all what's going on, I watch it. It takes me back to childhood, the wonder that was early Mariah, the nostalgia I wallow in, the happy memories it invokes. Like a few of you, every move, hand gesture, giggle, is committed to memory. Having it on audio is so, so good.
General: Again, I never had an issue with the original cover. It was a bit botched on the cassette version as she was half a head, but the CD always looked beautiful. It gave a Marilyn Monroe vibe, and had a certain simplicity to it. The uncropped version is equally as nice though. If anyone's gone into panic mode over the physical release having a big border around the original cover, this is a slip case that will reveal the uncropped cover beneath it.
But thank you Mariah, for everything. 10/10.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 10:08)
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MB30 (103,447)
by BFF from United States
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I think Mariah was more in touch with her inner child on "Music Box" than on any other album. There is a sweetness, wholesomeness, and innocence to the writing, production, and vocals that really recalls a lot of Minnie Riperton and Stevie Wonder's outputs in the 1970s. I wouldn't call it "creatively stifled", but I understand why people have that perception. Tommy and Sony overruled Mariah on some things - sometimes it was the right call (adding Walter's input on "Dreamlover"), sometimes it wasn't (leaving "Everything Fades Away" off the final track listing).
(Tuesday 12 September 2023; 02:36)
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MB30 (103,440)
by JC from USA
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Original Hero takes the cake, always. But MB30 has me feeling unfulfilled. While MB is vocally a "prime" era, she's artistically stifled and the album feels forced, likely a result of surmounting pressure resulting from Emotion's underperformance commercially (though incredible album). These new from-the-vault songs sound horrifically dated and while her vocals are amazing on My Prayer, it's a complete skip for me.
If we are going to be celebrating anniversaries of albums every dang year, I wish we'd only celebrate and spend time more with those where she is liberated as an artist.
(Monday 11 September 2023; 15:30)
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9/11 and "Glitter" (103,438)
by BFF from United States
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Today marks 22 years since the release of "Glitter" and since the World Trade Center tragedy. I always think of the song "Never Too Far" on this day because it's one of Mariah's most underrated ballads and its theme of loss is really appropriate for remembering what happened on 9/11. It's also impossible for me to forget how difficult the year 2001 was for Mariah and the humiliation she experienced in a moment that was supposed to be a moment of triumph.
Sorry to interrupt the MB30 celebration, but I really hope that one day we truly get "Justice for Glitter" - a 25th or 30th anniversary edition with unreleased tracks and more insight into what could have been.
(Monday 11 September 2023; 13:18)
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Workin Hard x My Prayer x All I Live For x Hero 09 (103,427)
by BFF from United States
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I will probably get pilloried for this, but I prefer Linda Ronstadt's version of "I Will Always Love You" to Whitney's. I think Rondstadt's reading is more subtle and truer to the original.
Mariah took "Without You" to a place that Badfinger and Harry Nilsson could not; she didn't write the song but she sings it like she lived it. You can hear the loneliness of Mariah's childhood when she sings "You always smile but in your eyes your sorrow shows."
And I 100 percent agree. There is no "Music Box" album without "Without You".
(Monday 11 September 2023; 00:15)
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Workin Hard x My Prayer x All I Live For x Hero 09 (103,420)
by Andrew from the UK
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I am sure that other British people here would agree that getting to No.1 in the UK in the 90's wasn't... how do I say this? It wasn't exactly an overly massive achievement. Now I know that Mariah was UK Top 5 with her 90s songs but to get to No.1 in the UK meant you simply had to be in a group of artists heavily pushed by the Record Labels in the UK - all of whom simply avoided releasing a song that would have competition in that week. When there were 2 songs going head to head that were otherwise created to get to, and destined for, No.1, these events made headlines, they made the national news.
To achieve No.1 you either had to be a seriously heavy-weight British Artist or have a one-hit-wonder generated for you - or you were a foreign artist who simply had a really good song. Mariah got to Number 2 with All I Want For Christmas Is You (something I cried about at the time). It was beaten by a very depressing song called Stay Another Day by a 90's boyband that to say they and thesong were heavily-marketed would be somewhat of an understatement. That she got to Number 2 on the strength of the song alone is remarkable.
It seems to me that to achieve No.1 in the United States (with still mindboggingly complicated ways of determining it) was not something easy. Therefore, discounting the incredible feat of getting there how many times she did, Mariah achieving Number 2's and Number 3's with songs released from an album long sinced dropped and heavy in sales figures is quite remarkable. In fact, it's astonishing.
I Will Always Love You was on the back of a Box Office Movie Hit and powerful (I personally hate it) and was the first release from the Soundtrack. The Soundtrack is revisited time and time again because it is Whitney's best work.
Funny, that Daydream is almost streamed as much as it. Mariah not only answered Whitney with Music Box, she came at her title with Daydream. And won.
Knowing some Atlanta-born poster here's propensity for defending Whitney, I shall say only this: whoever can listen to I Will Always Love You from start to finish without turning it off, turning it down, or tearing their ears off is superhuman. What the bloody hell are you supposed this song? The acappella begining is unnerving, the ridiculous bellowing at the end is unsingable, the whole thing is a shit-show. That I saw Whitney live in person sing this is one of the greatest memories of my life. But not as great as hearing her sing I Love The Lord. Now *that* is singing. Just like My Prayer is *singing*.
I shall stop typing now. Apologies, I'm on a bit of a Mariah buzz. I feel like a kid again lol. Peace. AJ.
(Sunday 10 September 2023; 17:44)
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Workin Hard x My Prayer x All I Live For x Hero 09 (103,398)
by BFF from United States
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Yes, I agree. "Without You" deserved to be on the final track listing over "My Prayer." The way she sings the line "You always smile but in your eyes your sorrow shows" gets me every time.
My only complaint about "Without You" is that it was massive internationally but only went to #3 in the United States. It really should have been a moment akin to Whitney Houston's "I Will Always Love You". The way she sings it eclipses the Harry Nilsson version and the Badfinger original.
(Saturday 9 September 2023; 21:53)
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Workin Hard x My Prayer x All I Live For x Hero 09 (103,393)
by Edward from USA
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The same sentiment here. "All I Live For Extended" is just brilliant. I don't know why she cut it off and put that short lived whistle at the end on "The Rarities". "My Prayer" was executed beautifully, vocally and emotionally, but I can understand why "Without You" was chosen, it sounds more current even today. As for "Working Hard", I'm still getting used to it, but I like it. Obviously I had to replace "All I Live For" with the extended version on "The Rarities", what a difference.
(Saturday 9 September 2023; 17:15)
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MB30 reaction (103,373)
by BFF from United States
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"My Prayer" brought tears to my eyes when I heard it. Such a gorgeous rendition and somewhat left field for Mariah in terms of covers. More evidence that Mariah needs to put together a "cover songs" compilation album. She's done so many great ones, and it would be nice to have them all in one place.
"Workin' Hard" is better than either of the Cole + Cliviles tracks on the original album. I can totally understand why Mariah's message on Twitter says she's looking back with a bit of regret on this album... because "My Prayer," "Workin' Hard", "All I Live For", "Everything Fades Away", and "Do You Think of Me" are all better than songs that made the final track list.
I would have left off "Just to Hold You Once Again", "I've Been Thinking About You", and "All I've Ever Wanted" to make room for unreleased songs and b-sides if there was a concern that the album would be too long. I wouldn't be able to leave off tracks 1-7 on the original album - those are all songs I never skip.
(Friday 8 September 2023; 14:51)
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Music Box 30th anniversary revealed (103,302)
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I'm so glad we are getting a high quality version of the Extended/Uncut Version of "Anytime You Need a Friend". This is my absolute favorite song on the album.
I wonder which of Mariah's other albums will get an "anniversary" re-release. I would like to see that happen for "Daydream" and "Glitter".
(Monday 4 September 2023; 14:43)
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Music Box 30th anniversary revealed (103,266)
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It will be out on 9/8. Here's what will be included on the 4LP 3CD cassette anniversary edition:
Expanded edition with bonus tracks 1. My Prayer - new track from the recording sessions 2. Hero - 2009 Version 3. AYNAF - Extended Version 4. Music Box - Acapella... Oooh wee. I need to hear this version. 5. Dream Lover - Live at the Top of Pops
*Live at Proctor's Theatre 1. new remastered audio
*Behind the Scenes of Dream Lover video - Mini Documentary
*Dream Lover video 4k
*MC Then and Now featurette
*And many more bonus features
(Thursday 31 August 2023; 16:45)
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Discounted singles (103,238)
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I think "Love Muffin" and "Ken Lee" should have been discounted to $0.49. They would've gone to #1 for sure.
"Love muffin, boy give your love to me. My muffin needs your lovin' so relentlessly."
"Kee Leeeeeeeeeee, Tuliboodiboodoubtyou."
(Monday 21 August 2023; 21:46)
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Discounted singles (103,225)
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Being the UK there weren't any tactics like this, other than the CD singles being released in "two parts" to sustain sales in the second week, and make rabid fans like me buy every version for different remixes or the alternative cover art (shout out to the UK exclusive Always Be My Baby artwork). I have been known to narrow my eyes in suspicion at the "one week only" #1s. I agree with what you say about My All and Thank God I Found You. I wouldn't say it applies to Heartbreaker and One Sweet Day though, because they had quite long stays at the top (especially OSD), plus Heartbreaker's great video would have helped as that whole thing was a hoot. This is why I roll my eyes when the (ducks) yaas queens lay down the "she's had two hundred thousand number ones" trump card. It's like, ask Joe Public to name 6 of them. Go on I'll wait. And yes, we all love Loverboy for all sorts of reasons (my affection for it is because it's such a mess), but there's no way that would have even cracked the top ten stateside were it not for it being sold for a penny or whatever it was. I always felt the UK's chart position of #12 was justified. It didn't warrant a top ten position, but deserved to knock at the door and be asked to the party, only to be sent away.
I've had too much wine.
(Saturday 19 August 2023; 22:17)
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Loverboy (103,140)
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I think the released version with the "Candy" sample can best be described as an "interesting mess". Critics were right to call it subpar in comparison to Mariah's previous output. The video was fun, but the low quality of the released version definitely contributed to the underperformance of the "Glitter" soundtrack.
The "Firecracker" version is vastly better than the released version. I personally think Mariah could have gotten away with releasing it even with Jennifer Lopez using "Firecracker" for "I'm Real". The original version of "I'm Real" ended up underperforming any way, and that song did not become a hit until it was remixed with Ja Rule.
Mariah still needs to put out remix EPs for the Glitter album singles on streaming. Does anyone know if she's planning some type of "Glitter" anniversary release?
(Sunday 6 August 2023; 14:21)
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Loverboy (103,139)
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So, I was thinking about "Loverboy" this morning and watched a video combining the original visuals with the Firecracker version. When "The Rarities" was released in 2020 and I listened to the original (Firecracker) version for the first time I was ecstatic and I was immediately filled with a "coulda woulda shoulda" feeling of what this song could have become, not to mention the lost potential of the "Glitter" soundtrack or even the trajectory of Mariah's career thereafter. It screams smash hit. In a way, the skeleton of the song, namely the track, the key in which it is written, the way the vocals pop in the chorus, brought to my mind the "Heartbreaker (Remix)", which she has often referred to as her favorite version. It is just impeccably catchy and the fact that they ripped her off and sabotaged her so badly just shows that Mariah's musical instincts were so on point that everybody was paying attention. She was at the top of her game creatively. Anyway, as far as the "Candy" version is concerned, I was similarly obsessed with when it came out in 2001. I remember hearing the remix on the radio for the first time on a hot day in June while waiting in my mother's car. While the rap intro was going on I was like, wait, these sighs and "oohs" in the background sound familiar and then I was in shock. Is this the new single? Remember back then, it was usually by accident that you came across a new release. I couldn't wait to hear it again. Although it was chaotic in a way, I mostly associated exuberance, fun and sexiness with the song, which was then enhanced by the saturated colorful visuals. Even the single cover is gorgeous and a total classic in my opinion. I can understand why the song did not have a mass appeal in the form that it was eventually released, although it remains a favorite of mine. Technically speaking, the key in which "Loverboy" was rewritten buried the chorus and made all parts sound a bit cluttered. Actually, Cameo's "Candy" has quite an unconventional beat, which makes it a difficult sample in my opinion, although it's been widely used. Still, whatever the circumstances, I love "Loverboy" in all its forms and still enjoy it to the max.
(Sunday 6 August 2023; 11:47)
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MB30 (102,901)
by BFF from United States
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I like "Now That I Know" but "I've Been Thinking About You" not as much. I thought the uptempo songs on "Emotions" were better than on "Music Box". I totally agree about Mariah's work with C+C Music Factory. Those songs were so upbeat and fun to listen to; thinking about them makes me miss early 90s Mariah.
I hope the Music Box anniversary release has some fun goodies.
(Saturday 17 June 2023; 20:03)
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MB30 (102,899)
by Jamie from UK
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How can you not love Now That I Know and I've Been Thinking About You? Classic 90's pop with amazing vocals. I loved the MC and C&C uptempo collaborations they brought a happy vibe to early Mariah albums, shame it only lasted two.
I'd love Mariah to do an upbeat, radio friendly song now. Even if she takes a step back from the music and just inputs on the lyrics. Sometimes it's hard to create magic when you've been writing songs for so long, I'd just love a good solid song/album.
(Saturday 17 June 2023; 12:03)
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Rainbow was bigger than Daydream (102,746)
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I definitely loved the "Rainbow" era. Mariah seemed to be having fun with the promotion and seemed more relaxed than in previous eras. Out of her #1 singles, I have always felt that "Thank God I Found You" was the most under appreciated - especially the original version. The song probably would have been better as a duet with Joe rather having 98 Degrees on it, but it's still a great slow jam/ballad. "Crybaby" was also a great song that probably should have gotten an official release rather than as the double A-side with "Can't Take that Away". The only song on the album I don't care for is "X-Girlfriend".
I wonder how many of the songs that ended up on "Rainbow" were originally intended for "Glitter". I'm pretty sure I remember Mariah saying that "Heartbreaker" was originally intended for the project when it was called "All That Glitters".
(Saturday 20 May 2023; 22:18)
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Rainbow was bigger than Daydream (102,745)
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Well, here it is as I promised. I am probably going to get a lot of push back for making this statement. This is why I have made such a bold statement. Rainbow was MC's liberation album. She had creative authority to do what she wanted to on Rainbow. She wanted to fulfill her contractual obligations to Sony Music. So she recorded Rainbow in 6 months. The recording of Rainbow has been her shortest time ever to record an album. The Heartbreaker single Jay-Z feature was a first for MC. It was the first time in her career that another artist was featured on one her lead singles. MC wrote ballads that were closer to R&B than pop for Rainbow. Many of the ballads mirrored sentiments she experienced in her personal life. The first week album sales of 323,000 were the highest in her career at the time. It was the first time a single's remix was featured on the album's initial release. Mariah started this trend that many R&B/Hip Hop have duplicated. It was the first time a Mariah Carey album had two interludes included in the album's tracklisting. The Biana alter ego was introduced. The Heartbreaker video was more expensive than Fantasy. Heartbreaker is one of the most expensive videos ever made costing 2.5 million. Promotion and tour was bigger than Daydream. Agree or disagree?
(Saturday 20 May 2023; 20:56)
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Favorite 90s singles cover (102,727)
by BFF from United States
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I love the image they used for the "Anytime You Need a Friend" single. I wish that song had performed better on the Hot 100. Great song that deserved a better peak charting position.
(Sunday 14 May 2023; 22:53)
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Favorite 90s singles cover (102,719)
by Bobby A from United States
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My favorite 90s singles cover is Never Forget You/Without You. I love this cover because of the beige/almond background and MC's innocent pose. What is your favorite 90s singles cover?
(Saturday 13 May 2023; 14:15)
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