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Favorite ballads list while we wait (110,878) by BFF from United States Bobby, you have deeply upset me by not including the masterpiece ballad "Ken Lee" and excluding songs from the masterpiece albums "Prism" and "Gutter". The Divine McCarey rebukes the list. "Ken Lee, Tulibudibu doubt you." (Monday 1 September 2025; 04:26) this is a reply to message 110,834

Favorite ballads list while we wait (110,834) by Bobby A from United States I have 15 ballads on a SD card that I will listen to every day until Here For It All is released. Here is my list is: 1. I Don't Wanna Cry 2. Can't Let Go 3. Never Forget You 4. When I Saw 5. My All 6. Against All Odds 7. Never Too Far 8. Through The Rain 9. We Belong Together 10. Love Story 11. Inseparable 12. Camouflage 13. Portrait 14. There Goes My Heart Again 15. I Wish You Well (Sunday 31 August 2025; 02:04)

MC the GOAT (110,803) by BFF from United States I honestly think that "Butterfly" is superior to "Daydream" as an artistic effort. I wish "Butterfly" had been recognized at the 1998 Grammys in the categories where she was nominated. The songwriting and production are just better than on "Daydream" and she approached the vocals with more restraint. Rich Juzwiak's review of the album for Slant Magazine really encapsulates why "Butterfly" is her best album. The hip-hop elements were incorporated in a very classy manner and were not overdone like they were for some songs on "Rainbow" and "Glitter." I think "One Sweet Day" deserved to win something, but Seal's "Kiss From a Rose" was also a really great song from that year. It was a little strange to award Best Pop Album to "Turbulent Indigo" by Joni Mitchell - I have that album and it is not one of Joni Mitchell's best. She lost best female pop vocal performance to Annie Lennox's "No More I Love You's", which is kind of silly too. "Fantasy" is definitely a better record than that one. She lost best female R&B vocal performance to Anita Baker and Album of the Year to Alanis Morissette. There was a lot of competition for Mariah from all directions, but I do agree she should have won something considering she was nominated for so many and considering how successful the album was. Maybe she would have won some awards at the 1996 Grammys if "Daydream" had been released a little earlier in 1995? "One Sweet Day" and "Always Be My Baby" did not really catch on as hits until 1996, so they may not have had enough exposure by the time of the award ceremony. (Friday 29 August 2025; 15:44) this is a reply to message 110,797

MC the GOAT (110,797) by Bill from the UK I think we all agree Mariah deserved some acknowledgement that night, due to it being the pinnacle of her career. But there's no point us still being bitter about a 30 year old event and still blaming Tommy, who had nothing to do with how that night unfolded. All it did was make Mariah realise she didn't need him. Mariah was still supported massively by Sony during the separation and after the divorce. I mean look at the budget the Heartbreaker video had. The videos, the tours, the non-stop global promotion. The issue was Mariah moved away from the adult contemporary audience that she curated during the beginning of her career, so her sales dipped, and she blamed the label (like Michael Jackson did). Rainbow was not Daydream. Invincible was not Thriller. (Friday 29 August 2025; 08:17)

Dating Tupac (110,771) by BFF from United States Did anyone else listen to this interview from Power 106? Mariah definitely did *not* say she regretted not dating Tupac. The interviewer decided to take creative license and interpret the exchange that way. The just of what Mariah said is that she was star struck by the fact that Tupac knew who she was when they bumped into each other at the 1996 AMAs. (Thursday 28 August 2025; 15:44)

I am in the minority on Caution (110,725) by BFF from United States I liked the album with some caveats. My main complaint with "Giving Me Life" is the unnecessary dialogue from "Trading Places". It took up too much space on an already too-short album. It also annoyed me that "8th Grade" had that too-long instrumental outro. It's like Mariah was trying to disguise how short the album and songs were. (Wednesday 27 August 2025; 00:23) this is a reply to message 110,719

I am in the minority on Caution (110,719) by Randy from USA My favorite song is GTFO and I think the first four songs make the album. Its second half is lazy. Stacey I love you like a freeze-pop but Giving Me Life sounds like a Me, Myself and I knockoff. It also kinda irks me as gay slang that she got from Kristofer Buckle. I'm gay yall don't have a cow. At least, I was gay last time I checked. The Distance has real cheerleaders on a slow song? When I think of cheerleaders on a song Toni Basil's Mickey, Gwen Stefani's Hollaback Girl or MCs Up Out My Face maybe. All uptempos and it seems out of place on The Distance. One More Gen is boring, I barely remember it. Eighth Grade's hook is stuck in my head but it's not great MC material. Finally, Portrait to me is the second worse introspective MC song, barely better than I Wish You Well (which I've been telling you all for years is a rant, not a song). If MIAMTEC is my "I Don't Know Her" album, Caution is my "I Don't Know Her, But I've Met Her" album. I hope I know HFIA. (Tuesday 26 August 2025; 19:04)

Here For It All (110,714) by BFF from United States I saw the rumored track list posted on Reddit, and it looks legitimate to me. Hopefully Mariah and her team do something soon to revive the rollout. Things are way too quiet right now even after the VMA announcement. Anyone have any idea about the next move? (Tuesday 26 August 2025; 16:00) this is a reply to message 110,711

Here For It All (110,711) by Shezz from Pk Haha if it's Roger F, he's really doing a great job at masking his dislike for MC. Nostradamous seems to love her. I've seen the few leaked track names and now the whole tracklisting floating around on UKmix. I don't post there but it's a good place to get more info on MC. I recognized Mimi L there. (Tuesday 26 August 2025; 10:55)

Sugar Sweet being scrapped (110,701) by BFF from United States I haven't heard this, but I think it is a very good idea. Mariah lost momentum with the "Sugar Sweet" misfire and needs to recover since HFIA comes out in less than a month. She should release the Anderson .Paak duet as a single since records involving him have had a recent track record of success. (Monday 25 August 2025; 15:14) this is a reply to message 110,700

Sugar Sweet being scrapped (110,700) by Chicago Lamb from USA I saw something on social media saying Maria's label was scrapping Sugar Sweet as Type Dangerous rises on the charts. The plan is to release another single in its place. Has anyone seen anything with regards to this idea? It reminds me of when Gaga's team pulled "Eh, Eh, nothing I can say" and quickly released Love Game. Hoping for the same magic (Monday 25 August 2025; 14:52)

Article: Mariah Carey to receive Video Vanguard Award (110,674) by BFF from United States Top 10 Mariah music videos for me: 1. Emotions 2. Fantasy (album version) 3. Honey 4. Butterfly 5. The Roof 6. Breakdown 7. My All 8. Heartbreaker 9. Any Time You Need a Friend 10. One Sweet Day Honorable mentions: Through the Rain, Boy (I Need You), Touch My Body, We Belong Together (Saturday 23 August 2025; 20:08) this is a reply to message 110,660

Article: Mariah Carey to receive Video Vanguard Award (110,660) by Dove from United States My favorite Mariah music videos are: Fantasy Obsessed Honey Breakdown Anytime You Need A Friend Loverboy Dreamlover I just watched a bunch, just to make sure I wasn't forgetting any. MC really does need to step it up with the videos. She needs to take advantage that she looks so good right now and make a bunch. (Saturday 23 August 2025; 12:17)

Vanguard Award - JLo? (110,671) by BFF from United States "If You Had My Love" and "Waiting for Tonight" were pretty great videos, not gonna lie. I think it's absurd that Jennifer Lopez received the award before Mariah, but Lopez definitely has a couple of great videos. I will also cop to liking some of her songs even though I don't think she's a good singer and think Mariah is far more talented. (Saturday 23 August 2025; 19:39) this is a reply to message 110,669

Vanguard Award - JLo? (110,669) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I'm sorry, this didn't meant to be a "I don't know her" moment, but when I think of artists with iconic music videos, what video of JLo is iconic? I remember her in a pink hat in the I'm Real video, her dancing with Diddy in one of his videos and then a brief flash of strobe lights in the On the Floor, aside from that they are generally all just the same formula of video from the early '00s. (Saturday 23 August 2025; 17:18)

MTV VMAs - Video Vanguard (110,626) by BFF from United States Mariah is getting the Video Vanguard award and performing at the 2025 VMAs. Hopefully she and her team can start building momentum up to that event on 9/07/25. (Thursday 21 August 2025; 20:55)

Songs Mariah should cover (110,593) by BFF from United States I would legitimately love to see Mariah step outside her comfort zone and do some alternative rock covers. We all know she has a secret rocker side that's waiting to be unleashed. I honestly thought that was going to happen when she and Courtney Love were photographed together with Lee Daniels 10 or so years ago. I also legitimately would have loved for Aretha Franklin to do a song like Bjork's "Army of Me". That would have been cool to hear. (Wednesday 20 August 2025; 01:25) this is a reply to message 110,589

Songs Mariah should cover (110,589) by Zachariah from Croatia I would love to hear her version of Metallica - The Unforgiven II. (Wednesday 20 August 2025; 00:18)

Songs Mariah should cover (110,583) by BFF from United States 1. Everything Now - Arcade Fire 2. Human Behaviour - Bjork 3. Jennifer's Body - Hole 4. Oxford Comma - Vampire Weekend 5. Nine In The Afternoon - Panic At The Disco 6. Once in A Lifetime - Talking Heads 7. Today - The Smashing Pumpkins 8. Never Said - Liz Phair 9. Epic - Faith No More 10. Only Happy When It Rains - Garbage (Tuesday 19 August 2025; 22:03)

It’s tiiiime... to let the children know (110,582) by BFF from United States Maybe we're all just projecting our own projections onto the projectors who are projecting their projections onto other projectors? I just want a day where I can just look at rainbows, eat ice cream, and go swimming with dolphins. We're all just living in the moment of being positive. (Tuesday 19 August 2025; 21:44) this is a reply to message 110,579

It’s tiiiime... to let the children know (110,579) by jaker20 from US I like that many care for her, often it's well-intentioned. But sometimes it's just many here are projecting. It's too tooo too much. She is already in constant microscrope. If it's not the breast just a few days ago, then the makeup, then the everything, then she's a zombie, and not herself. (I admit I do it too sometimes, it's contagious, so I often check myself, and this is my first and last on this topic.) I feel all this focus on her being bipolar, and people diagnosing her like she's a patient, is actually adding more anxiety. And frankly pretty pointless, albeit "we have the right to post what we want". The negative is too much sometimes, that for some it's all they talk about. In the end, it is her life, she has a new "normal". She has her own baseline of what is normal. She looked great in London, happy, cheerful, she seems to have high energy, walking on her own, interacting with fans, having a time of her life, and the last few concerts smashed. And yet look at the topics here. There is nothing wrong with her as far as I'm concerned. (Tuesday 19 August 2025; 19:56)

Daydream anniversary (110,573) by BFF from United States The album release date for "Here for It All" (9/26/25) coincides with the 30th anniversary of the "Daydream" album release (9/26/95). I wonder if we will get a 30th anniversary edition of the "Daydream" album. Surely we will get something since Mariah has done something for "Music Box", "Butterfly", "Rainbow", and "The Emancipation of Mimi"? I know we got "Slipping Away" and "One Night" on "The Rarities" but perhaps there are more songs we do not know about (other than the Chick album). (Monday 18 August 2025; 18:47)

Back to chart obsession (110,549) by BFF from United States I think Mariah and her team could have gotten more mileage out of "Type Dangerous" if they had released the video and remix EP sooner. The song and video are fun, and the song makes really good use of that Eric B. and Rakim sample. It's still doing pretty well in the niche R&B radio format. I never cared for "Sugar Sweet" from the first time I heard it and think it's a much weaker song than "Type Dangerous". If I worked on Mariah's team, I would advocate for a ballad or the Anderson.Paak duet as a third single. We have to get used to the idea that the "legacy" residencies and Christmas tours are going to be Mariah's main focus since they clearly generate the most income. The rollout for "Caution" came around the time of "The Butterfly Returns" residency and a European Christmas tour, so it seems like we will see a similar pattern for "Here For It All". It makes sense that she would continue to focus on the residencies and Christmas tours... unless a newly released single or album becomes a massive hit. Maybe we will luck out and get a "Here For It All" tour next year, but Mariah's recent pattern of pre-recording entire shows doesn't bode well for how that would turn out. (Sunday 17 August 2025; 14:43) this is a reply to message 110,540

Back to chart obsession (110,540) by Bobby A from United States I feel that 3rd single is going to be the one single from the album that is going get pop radio's attention. It rumored to be a R&B ballad. I feel it is going to be released as MC embarks on the HFIA album promotional tour. She can't talk about Type Dangerous and Sugar Sweet as much now because these singles were released two months before the album. MC will have to perform the 3rd single live on the talkshow arena as much as she can three weeks before the album comes out. The VMA's will kick off the U.S. promotional tour. Plus, MC is one of the iHeart Music Festival performers. So, MC has to be ready to compete with Zara Larrson and Doja Cat. Who will have the most impactful week of September 22- 26? (Sunday 17 August 2025; 11:59)

Do you all think? (110,513) by BFF from United States I agree. I think we are heading for an outcome like what we got with the "Caution" album. That album got great reviews but hardly sold at all and faded away quickly. The tour for that album was pretty successful, but I'm not sure Mariah has the capacity for a tour at that scale any more. She completed shows for "The Celebration of Mimi", but we all know the performances were almost entirely pre-recorded. It was also the same sequence of songs every night. In hindsight, I wish they would have promoted "Type Dangerous" more. I prefer it to "Sugar Sweet" and think it could have blown up more if the music video and remixes had come out sooner. I don't know how they plan to recover momentum for the rollout since the album release date is still over a month away. (Friday 15 August 2025; 18:45) this is a reply to message 110,500

Do you all think? (110,500) by Dave from USA Yes, I think it's too late. For the starting rollout, it seemed exciting and promising. Not really sure why she went across the pond so quick with a media blitz and neglected the U.S. markets. I really thought TD would take off in some capacity, but even with a fire song/video, nothing came of it. SS was worse. They could have left that off completely. I really think people are just tired of the "diva" persona, the chest always out, talking about lighting and such, and want her to do what she does (or used to do) best, which is sing. There lies the problem. She just can't sing anymore. She could get away with playing the ditzy diva role with no problem "if" she still had the chops/voice. It's so sad to see her voice deteriorate even further. I really want to be wrong and have the album completely explode like TEOM, but reality just keeps kicking in. (Friday 15 August 2025; 05:11)

Pitchfork/Allure interviews (110,491) by BFF from United States Mariah looks good in both of these interviews, but she still seems so low energy in both. I've kind of been worried about her health ever since some of that footage from the Mimi residency earlier his year. She just seems so tired in so many of her performances and interviews. (Thursday 14 August 2025; 20:14)

Type Dangerous nominated for MTV music video award (110,382) by BFF from United States Billboard was actually speculating that Mariah is a possible contender for the Video Vanguard award this year. It would make sense to see Mariah win something given she has a new album coming out and has never received a VMA award before. (Friday 8 August 2025; 17:08) this is a reply to message 110,381

Type Dangerous nominated for MTV music video award (110,381) by T from USA It's great news indeed. And it's for current work not a lifetime achievement award or something. Let's keep voting everyday. (Friday 8 August 2025; 15:10)

Sticking to MC's music only (110,355) by BFF from United States I think I understand now why the label went with the September 26 release date. It's the 30th anniversary of the "Daydream" album's release. I wonder if Mariah has something planned to celebrate Daydream's 30th anniversary as well. (Wednesday 6 August 2025; 16:18) this is a reply to message 110,349

Sticking to MC's music only (110,349) by Bobby A from United States I believe that the Bryson Tiller collaboration is on the way through a deluxe edition or Target Exclusive CD yielding 2-3 additional songs with a possible JD/BMC collaboration. The Bryson Tiller collaboration could be the third single and The Clark Sisters collaboration could act as the fourth single. Either way, I feel there is going to be a twist with the 11-song standard tracklisting when it is released in early September. Gamma has to do something to ensure HFIA is a huge seller the first week. (Wednesday 6 August 2025; 13:06)

Sticking to MC's music only (110,354) by BFF from United States I hope that's not the case. It seems like the album is a compilation of songs from different studio sessions during the 2020-2025 period. The collaboration with the Clark Sister was first reported back in 2021, for example. We've heard about her having an album's worth of songs in multiple interviews over the last few years, so I would assume that she could deliver some bonus tracks on the alternate editions. *fingers crossed* (Wednesday 6 August 2025; 16:14) this is a reply to message 110,353

Sticking to MC's music only (110,353) by ADAM from USA Am I the only one who thinks we're only getting 11-tracks and that she's only selling the different album photos? I am shocked that she's not released a full album in 7 years and she's only put forth 11 songs in that span. I think her voice is really that broken. (Wednesday 6 August 2025; 15:46)

Sticking to MC's music only (110,352) by BFF from United States I agree, Bobby. With all of the different "editions" of the album (D2C, Amazon Exclusive, and Standard editions), surely we will get some alternate track listings or bonus tracks. Otherwise, people are just buying to collect the alternate album covers - which, to me, is not worth spending the extra money. (Wednesday 6 August 2025; 14:52) this is a reply to message 110,349

Sticking to MC's music only (110,349) by Bobby A from United States I believe that the Bryson Tiller collaboration is on the way through a deluxe edition or Target Exclusive CD yielding 2-3 additional songs with a possible JD/BMC collaboration. The Bryson Tiller collaboration could be the third single and The Clark Sisters collaboration could act as the fourth single. Either way, I feel there is going to be a twist with the 11-song standard tracklisting when it is released in early September. Gamma has to do something to ensure HFIA is a huge seller the first week. (Wednesday 6 August 2025; 13:06)

Sticking to MC's music only (110,337) by BFF from United States This sounds very promising. I really want to hear these ballads she's mentioned, and I also want to hear more of the stuff she wrote with Anderson. Mariah needs to put something out to rebuild the momentum for the album. "Type Dangerous" built things up a bit, but "Sugar Sweet" has already faded away. Maybe they should've made the album release date sooner than September? (Tuesday 5 August 2025; 13:14) this is a reply to message 110,331

Sticking to MC's music only (110,331) by Bobby A from United States I have some song titles tea, but I don't want to spoil what is to come on Here For It All. MC's 16th studio album is shaping up to become a huge seller because of The Clark Sisters collaboration. If you think Never Would Have Made It was a huge radio hit for Marvin Sapp in 2007, wait until MC and The Clark Sisters drop their song on 9.26. The song title is reminisce of The Clark Sisters' fans favorite songs by them like Endow Me, The Center Of My Joy, and Name It Claim It. (Tuesday 5 August 2025; 02:30)

Sugar Sweet video clip (110,275) by BFF from United States I agree Bobby A. I wish she would focus more on the songs from the album and what inspired them rather than the "I don't acknowledge time" or "my favorite diva is me" nonsense. I know she's making a joke, but it's commanding too much time in interviews where she should be discussing the writing and recording process. Remember when she delved so deeply into the writing and recording processes in interviews to promote "Butterfly" and "Rainbow"? I would love to see that from her again. She needs to front-load her artistry. Otherwise, people will continue to focus on the "diva" attitude, her messy personal life, etc. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 23:49) this is a reply to message 110,261

Sugar Sweet video clip (110,261) by Bobby A from United States I noticed that as well. She looks a lot heavier in person. If you compare the Sugar Sweet video clip to the London photos from yesterday, you can tell the Sugar Sweet video clip is heavily edited. Why can't MC stop the diva antics and her desire to stay young? I think The Kardashians have had a negative influence on MC trying to stay young looking in the public's eye. People are not amused with her diva antics especially pop radio program diectors. These diva antics have negatively influenced the public's perception of her. Also, it is not helping that she can't sing like she used to. I have always wondered why the public loves Sza's music despite of her heavily autotuned vocals. I think it is because her lyrics are relatable and she doesn't act like a diva. This is what MC is missing in the public's eye. I believe MC acts like a diva because she is desperately trying to conceal the effects of being bipolar and the lost of her once beautiful voice. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 15:30)

Sugar Sweet (110,220) by BFF from United States I am a little surprised by the performance of "Sugar Sweet" in comparison to "Type Dangerous". I prefer "Type Dangerous", but "Sugar Sweet" seemed like something that would have more mass appeal. "Type Dangerous" seemed to do relatively well with radio airplay initially, but I guess that doesn't really count for much these days? (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 15:28) this is a reply to message 110,217

Sugar Sweet (110,217) by Bobby A from United States Maybe Gamma will be forced to release the 3rd single because Sugar Sweet just wasn't as sweet as they thought it would be. We are 58 days away from HFIA dropping and still no Hot 100 hit. Maroon 5 released the third single on July 17th from their new album that is dropping August 15th. It did not chart on the Hot 100 and neither did the 2nd single. The first single charted at #76. Older artists and bands just can't compete with these younger artists on the charts. I just wonder if Michael Jackson was still alive today, would he have #1 Hot 100 hits. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 12:18)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,191) by BFF from United States Do black artists not sing pop music? Are black and white the only types of people in the world? Last time I checked Mariah has devoted fans across many continents and of many different backgrounds other than "white" and "black". I'm not an OG fan. I became a fan in the 1997-2000 period and my first Mariah album was "Rainbow", so I thoroughly enjoyed and appreciated the way Mariah integrated hip-hop into her music. I think it worked best on songs like "The Roof" and "Crybaby" and the remixes for "My All" and "Thank God I Found You". And I also love the stuff from 1990-1996 - the ballads ("Can't Let Go"), the gospel-inflected tunes ("Any Time You Need a Friend"), the house and disco influenced uptempo songs ("Emotions", "Now that I Know", etc). Last time I checked, Diana Ross, Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, Luther Vandross, Donna Summer, and many, many other African-American/black artists have put out music that most people would categorize as "pop". Pop isn't a genre - it is shorthand for "popular" and encompasses a wide range of styles and idioms. And "pop" music isn't synonymous with "white". Country songs go to #1 on the "pop" charts. R&B and Hip-Hop songs have gone to #1 on the "pop" charts. House tracks have gone to #1 on the "pop" charts. Alternative rock songs go to #1 on the "pop" charts. In 2003, Liz Phair caught a lot of flack for "going pop" on her self-titled album, but she brilliantly pointed out that it's dishonest for recording artists (and critics) to pretend that they aren't in business when they are. Having a career as a recording artist means that you're often (out of necessity) trying to appeal to the widest possible audience - it has nothing to do with "race" and everything to do with capitalism. Sometimes you need a "pop" hit to pay your bills, get out of debt, to build your clout, etc. There's no shame in it. I actually think the main reason that Mariah began to feel the need to pander a bit was due to music critic Nelson George labelling her "a white girl trying to sing black", which is itself a racist statement because it conflates skin color with singing ability. This was a misnomer because she was already singing gospel, R&B, and house-influenced songs on the debut album in 1990 and the "Emotions" album in 1991. Last time I checked Adele is a more impressive vocalist than Janet Jackson, but this reductive thinking would have us believe that somehow "race" automatically correlates with singing ability. It doesn't. Mariah being called a "white girl trying to sing black" by music critics became such an issue that she had a press conference/sit down with many of them early on to tell them to cut it out. The reality is that Mariah never denied being mixed race, and I don't agree with the argument that Tommy tried to hide that aspect of her. Critics like Nelson George were ones who created this issue because their color struck, racialist thinking disallowed the idea that someone who looked like Mariah could sing and write so brilliantly. Sorry for getting on my soapbox, but it makes me angry that Mariah has felt pressured into pandering to this nonsense. Maybe we should stop trying to label music with such simplistic "racial" categories and just enjoy the music? (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 15:21) this is a reply to message 110,159

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,159) by Terna from Nigeria You get it, and I'm glad you addressed it from this angle, I just didn't want to get into it. Part of the main problem "OG's" have is Mariah's leaning towards black music and succeeding at it too - R&B/Hiphop specifically. That's why they will always have a problem with this "New Mariah", so to speak, because that Tommy version was molded to cater to a white audience. Let's call it as it is. However, that's not the real her, never really was to begin with - check "Vision of Love", that's a singer who's main and only influence is black music, gospel, R&B and hip-hop (check the debut album, isn't she rapping on "Prisoner"). What's mind boggling about these OG fans is that new Mariah (true Mariah) has now been out so to speak, much longer (all caps) than hairbangs Mariah (Music Box and Daydream) and she has pretty much remained the same since, yet they're still hooked on the curated Tommy's vision of her and think that somehow, someday she's gonna go back to pop and that image. Smh. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 05:12)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,092) by BFF from United States For me, my favorite Mariah was from the 1997-2000 period. She had her freedom from the marriage but also seemed very happy and carefree. The bad experience with “Glitter” changed things for the worse in my opinion. In my opinion, that was really the point at which she became more remote, seemed less relatable, and less focused on her voice and the music. That marriage to Tommy really screwed her over in a lot of ways and its aftermath derailed her professional and personal life in the early 2000s. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 15:10) this is a reply to message 110,075

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,075) by Jamie from UK Whilst I love that Mariah is still putting out music I can't help but wonder what went wrong for Mariah. I've just heard Without You on an Instagram post which to me is the pinnacle of Mariah in 1993, you couldn't get much better than that. To now her latest single Sugar Sweet (which I don't mind) but let's be honest she can barely sing this tune and it isn't very taxing on the voice as a were her earlier hits. When I hear old school Mariah I can't help but feel sad at where we are now. A complete transformation of personality and a huge degrading of vocals. What happened? Was it self inflicted or is it just natural wear and tear of a once untouchable voice. I would love to rewind to 1993 when her career took off internationally and just remind her to stay grounded and focus on what's important. I've said this multiple times but I just don't get how we went from Mariah to MC it's such a contrast of personalities. Her early cross over stuff was cool but as I've said countless times she took it too far and I think the partying etc took a toll on her vocals and ate away at her wholesomeness. She might say and pretend that she's always been hood but I remember those early days and there was no pretence, just a natural girl living her best life. Yes we all change but we're still recognisable, I think Mariah took it too far and now she doesn't even recognise herself. Her appearance last night on Jimmy Kimmel is a far cry from who she once was, I would love to sit 1993 Mariah down and show her 2025 Mariah. I don't even think she would relate to that. I'm speaking from the heart and probably don't understand the ins and outs of the celebrity lifestyle and how it affects you both physically and mentally. But part of me wants to understand what went wrong and what happened to Mariah and why she's so affected now and her voice has taken such a turn. It's great she's still giving us music but vocally and especially personality she's a far cry from what she was. I don't even think Mariah knows herself anymore she's that affected. I reminisce of her dancing on the beach with "to be around you" playing out to her now barely able to focus or speak and can't but help to want to say to her it's ok to be Mariah again. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 01:14)

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