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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,691)
by Jamie from UK
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Did Mariah not say on numerous occasions "I owe it all to the fans"? Well that works both ways I'm afraid when you put yourself in the public domain. You have to earn people's respect and give your fans what they want. Do whatever you like in your personal life but when it comes to your fanbase they have invested a lot of time in her as an artist and only want the best from her. I wasn't negative about her latest release with Ariana, I actually praised it. But I appreciate it's not everyone's favourite, I'm not gonna sit here and type your all something else for not like it as I accept everyone has a difference in opinions. From your post you think Mariah should just do mediocre performances from now on, and everyone should just say that's ok it's Mariah she's allowed to, she doesn't care about that stuff. And again that's fine you're entitled to your opinion, but remember a lot of us have an opinion to you and that's ok too. Ps I sang this back to myself just so you know some of us can sing.
(Friday 23 February 2024; 16:50)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,687)
by JC from United States
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Your response is the issue though. Opinions are fine but thinking you deserve and are owed something. She doesn't owe you or anyone anything. Not everyone will love her but you guys are something else. Like already we don't know how much longer she will put up with this bs. You don't think she's tired of seeing YouTube videos of lambs comparing vocals from 1990 to recent ones, lambs need to stop being note [censored]. She doesn't care about that stuff. None of you can or will ever be able to sing. Therefore you know nothing about the subject.
(Friday 23 February 2024; 16:07)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,690)
by Jamie from UK
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But I haven't said I want or expect another Music Box. And I think any of us knows that's not gonna happen. My point is that not everyone will like what she puts out and that's fine. Some people don't like Music Box but that's ok too. We're not all robots that have to agree with everything.
(Friday 23 February 2024; 16:35)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,684)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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I get what you're saying Jamie. I'm not talking about the usual difference of opinions. I'm passionate about MC and I always defend her but I know it's coming from a positive place. Passionately tearing her to shreds is quite different. MC and her voice have evolved while some fans are stuck in the past waiting for another Music Box that will never happen. Before you call me delusional for staying positive and supportive, delusional would be not acknowledging that her voice will never be the same as it was in her prime. People change, and we must either accept it or move on, there's no need to diagnose her, then whine and moan every time new music comes out, it's unhealthy for everyone involved. I'm very direct, perhaps too direct for some. That's my humble opinion and I stand by it.
(Friday 23 February 2024; 15:14)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,682)
by Jamie from UK
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Because everyone is individual and has their own opinions. Not one fan is the same. I personally love the remix and stated I thought her vocals were great in it. But I'm open to the thought that others might not like it and that's ok. It's that the point of a forum for everyone to bring their thoughts to the table and create a debate. I'm all for positivity but I'm also open to criticism too otherwise how do people grow. No one truly knows what's going on with Mariah or her voice at times but as fans who have invested so much time in our artist it's only normal to have an opinion one way or the other. It doesn't mean people love her any less. If people didn't comment one way or the other then I would be worried as to me that would show that any passion they have for Mariah has gone. I'm so excited for a new Mariah album if every track is amazing then fantastic but I don't think we should be getting into a culture where we can't say exactly how we feel about something because as I said not everyone likes the same things and that is ok.
(Friday 23 February 2024; 11:07)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,674)
by JC from United States
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This is suppose to be a Mariah fan board, all I've seen is negative uncalled for opinions on Mariah and her voice, you guys think she's a robot? I recently saw a video of twitter spaces, some lamb had the balls to tell Mariah that every time she performs the lambs wonder if she will hit a g7 or how high she will go. Meanwhile this lamb works at Burger King but thinks he knows everything about her voice. I noticed this was her last time on twitter spaces. You guys are ruining this for her, y'all don't know anything about her voice or what's going on, have some respect for the woman who supposedly you say saved your life with her music. I really hope she doesn't release anything new. Why would she? Just for you guys to disect and judge her voice condition. I used to love this board, before all the lambs became vocal teachers.
(Thursday 22 February 2024; 23:19)
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General public or bad decisions (105,644)
by Jamie from UK
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Yes I agree, what Mariah and Walter had was magical. They should have continued to work together whilst allowing her to still experiment with different sounds as she did with David & Robert. I sometimes feel once singers are established they then want to go off and do what they like. I think it's important to follow things you like however as an artist they are launched in a way that the record executives know will work, and I feel being a music artist should be like an actor. Stick with what works, take advice from others, live your private life the way you want to. But ultimately don't accept a career launch that you say goes against what you believe in and like just to get famous and then decide to turn against that image and style because your now famous and think you can do what you like. People already bought into and loved the Mariah we were introduced to from day one. Changing the dynamics so much to the point your artistry is no longer recognizable, I'm afraid cost her her popularity with the general public. I'm still a Mariah fan because I like her music but I don't agree with how much she changed from what people loved about her and in my eyes actually worked for her and ultimately made her more popular.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 15:26)
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General public or bad decisions (105,624)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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MC lost her magic when she stopped collaborating with Walter A. She might have 26 #1 songs now if the two never stopped collaborating. That was a bad decision she has paid dearly for.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:10)
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SNL (105,637)
by Jamie from UK
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I wonder if it's true, time will tell.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 12:52)
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by Shezz from Pk
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I'm a little worried about how she'll sound (if it is true). It's a lot of strained belting. Let's see how much is going to be live and how much lipped. I hope she puts in the effort to do it justice.
Insiders are saying the Cardi collaboration will be her next step - which is bound to get more people mad here.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 10:37)
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General public or bad decisions (105,612)
by Jamie from UK
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I'm sat here and a thought came into my head regarding Mariah and her career. For the majority of the 1990's Mariah could do no wrong, she was America's sweetheart and had countless number one songs and albums. People took her into their hearts and adored her. From 1997 she made what some call a drastic change in musical direction and lost some of her core fanbase as a result. However she continued to have number one songs and albums even through a difficult time with Sony and Tommy Mottola. Why was it then that during her most difficult time in her life in 2001 did people turn their backs on her? Surely someone who they had grown to love had spent so long adoring her and buying her music would want to support her during this difficult time. Glitter and Charmbracelet failed to sell anywhere near what she would normally sell. My point is, is it the general public who turn on an artist so quickly, is it the music industry and media that set current trends what is a hit and what the people want or is it bad decisions made by Mariah the artist. For me it's just difficult to understand how such a quick switch in popularity can happen with someone who was literally a force of nature at one point. Firstly I don't think the whole Glitter film helped her persona one bit, 9/11 didn't help but the film just wasn't good enough 9/11 or not. The album or soundtrack is great but in hindsight should it have been left on the shelf once the film tanked to help control the damage from the film and save her also having a music flop too which was unheard of at the time. Would her next album then have been more well received by the public. For me I like Charmbracelet but it feels almost like a complete different body of work to the rest of her catalogue (present and past included) the whole vibe is just different. Were bad decisions made by Mariah creatively should she have come back with an upbeat track ala Fantasy/Honey mode and had less rappers on the album, it would be interesting to see if the Glitter album hadn't been released and she had come back with a stronger album (maybe a combination of Glitter tracks and new ones and called it something else) how her popularity would have been at that time and now. Or had the public already turned their backs on her and changed their view of her as a person. Obviously we had Emancipation but that was very short lived, and since then with the exception of Touch My Body and Christmas she hasn't got anywhere near the popularity she should have had. Do you think the general public just doesn't warm to her anymore, is it Mariah's decisions of music creativity or the way her persona has come across post 2001, or do you think it's the music industry making wrong decisions for her career? We can't change what happens but sometimes it's interesting to put a different spin on how we think things could have gone or been. Would love to hear your views and where you think things went wrong or could have been different for her.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 17:36)
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It just occured to me (105,603)
by Jamie from UK
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Yes I agree, it's a catchy song at first which I like, but it's not strong enough to stay around longer than it has. I've enjoyed the remix too, but like you said the original was already waning. Had the remix been the original version, then I'm sure it would have been number 1 and still lasted the same amount of time on the charts as the original has done. It's not a poor performance from either Ariana or Mariah, it's just one of those fly in fly out songs.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 14:54)
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It just occured to me (105,598)
by Shezz from Pk
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True. Mariah and Ariana should have collaborated on a new song. After a couple of listens the song did grow on me and I heard it on repeat a lot but I asked myself why I myself or others didn't like it more:
First of all, it's not a new song. Even though Mariah adds a lot of layers to this song and her new verse, it's still 99% the same song that A) has been played out and B) people didn't love much to begin with.
I didn't find Mariah's vocals as grating or out of place as some people did. If Mariah, Ariana and Max Martin put them through - this is the style of singing they obviously wanted from her.
I don't believe this remix is tanking because of Mariah's vocals. This song was on its way out of the top 40 anyway. It will push it back to the top 15 for a week and of course the original will be credited as it has more streams/downloads I'm sure.
The opposite was true for Big Energy. It was a breakout hit and steadily climbing the charts when the remix came out and it just pushed it more. That wad good timing, this was not. It is certainly not the disaster many people think it is. It is just another building block for MC 16 which I'm sure will have the lyrics, music and vocals for all of us.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 03:59)
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Writing (105,579)
by Jamie from UK
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Maybe she does under a different name.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 19:07)
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Writing (105,574)
by Edward from USA
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I believe this is something Mariah should have pursued long ago, especially considering the lengthy gaps between her album releases. Given her talent and experience, she could have been an exceptional record producer/lyricist for other artists. I wonder why she never chose to explore this avenue.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 17:05)
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Yes, And, I Don't (105,563)
by Jamie from UK
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I think this track is what it is, I like the song. I liked it when it was just Ariana. Having Mariah on it now singing up beat is music to my ears. Is it Mariah's best performance no, but is it really her worst? I'd rather have this over I Don't any day. I think we need to cut her some slack, she's never gonna blow us away as she once did, she's 54 this year and unfortunately has declining vocals which I'm sure she herself is very well aware of. I was actually quite happy with her vocals on this track, let's be honest we've heard worse over the last few years. For a long time now we've been asking for Mariah to get herself together, she's finally started to clean up her act, her public presence and persona is back up to where it should be, her PR is back to where it should be and she's getting lots of attention and respect from fellow artists. Yet we continue to dissect everything she does and bash her when she finally does something positive. I would love Mariah to have her full 90's vocals back and to some degree her personality, but unfortunately it's not gonna happen. Vocal decline has happened for various reasons and she suffered a major breakdown which has changed her as it would. Not forgetting she's been living this famous life for a long time now and as much as stars say they haven't changed. They always do over time one way or another, hey non famous people change over time believe it or not. Nobody is the same or doing the same things as they once did 25 plus years ago. But instead of tearing her down let's give her praise for still being here, making music and gracing us with her presence for nearly 34 years, I'd much rather have her still with us than not. The track isn't that bad and who knows what's in-store for us this year on her solo projects. Let's celebrate Mariah.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 03:14)
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Yes, And? (105,479)
by Jamie from UK
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I agree. I'm not hearing auto tune at all. I think she sounds more youthful and energised.
(Friday 16 February 2024; 12:55)
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Yes, And? (105,473)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I really don't hear autotune being used. It is just her true alto voice shining through. If you noticed on the "baby you" lyric her alto tone shines through. During the Charmbracelet era she would have given us a breathy tone on that lyric. Her voice has just changed so much that she has lost an octave or two making her alto range shine through more.
(Friday 16 February 2024; 11:56)
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Yes And? remix (105,471)
by Jamie from UK
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I love it, it's great to hear Mariah singing in an upbeat way and not just mid tempo.
(Friday 16 February 2024; 10:46)
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Yes And? remix (105,463)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I have to say the remix is everthing and well worth the wait. Their vocals and whistle notes are crazy. MC sounds so good. Her adlibs are MC for sure. Their harmonizing is subperb. It will be #1 next week. MC's 20th #1 is next week. Who is the male voice during the intro? He sounds familiar. Bye.
(Friday 16 February 2024; 06:27)
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Time of release UK (105,449)
by Jamie from UK
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Mariah just posted 14 hours to go. Will it be available in UK at midnight ahead of USA?
(Thursday 15 February 2024; 21:14)
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Not happy (105,433)
by Jamie from UK
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Yes I can't wait, I'm really excited for this project. Mariah can do no wrong at the moment. Her profile is in a great place and it feels like she is excited about making music again. Ariana is a great choice, she's popular and can help Mariah appeal to the younger crowd.
(Thursday 15 February 2024; 12:54)
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Not happy (105,431)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I have a feeling it is resung with new lyrics and a sampled track. Why would Mimi agree to do it if it is not what she is known for when it comes to remixes? We will find out tonight at midnight.
(Thursday 15 February 2024; 12:11)
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Not happy (105,430)
by Jamie from UK
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Lol pull the remix now it's a travesty.
(Thursday 15 February 2024; 10:18)
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Not happy (105,427)
by S from England
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I've been a fan for over 15 years but I'm not happy with the next collaboration. Ariana is a confirmed homewrecker and I'm a little disappointed in Mariah for doing a collab when all this has come out. Sorry that's my opinion.
(Thursday 15 February 2024; 07:27)
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Ariana Instagram (105,418)
by Jamie from UK
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Do I just look at an insta post from Ariana on 7th Februar? It's so obvious seeing MC in that post. How did we not see it.
(Wednesday 14 February 2024; 21:12)
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It was true (105,409)
by Jamie from UK
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Yes, And? Dropping Friday.
(Wednesday 14 February 2024; 18:30)
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Nick back at it again (105,363)
by Jamie from UK
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Yes was gonna say I thought she'd said this before.
(Sunday 11 February 2024; 14:20)
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Nick back at it again (105,354)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Ahah this is actually an older response and I found it hilarious. This was when I think last year he talked about never saying never to a reconciliation with Mariah.
(Sunday 11 February 2024; 02:23)
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The Celebration Of Mimi (105,299)
by Jamie from UK
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Haha I thought the same, so negative.
(Tuesday 6 February 2024; 20:39)
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The Celebration Of Mimi (105,293)
by Edward from USA
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Don't be a negative Nancy. There's going to be some new music this year. Mariah is looking stunning, that's not a coincidence. She's definitely getting ready for something big.
(Tuesday 6 February 2024; 17:38)
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The Celebration Of Mimi (105,289)
by Jamie from UK
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Mariah is doing some shows in Las Vegas in April at Park MGM. I feel a good record is coming up this year, the PR of Mariah at the moment is on form.
(Tuesday 6 February 2024; 15:01)
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Look (105,234)
by Jamie from UK
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You will love it, I got my CD the other day.
(Saturday 3 February 2024; 14:10)
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Look (105,228)
by Stacey from USA
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Oh good, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that dress was awful. On a happier note, my MC30 CD set is on its way. I can't wait. I also get a bit giddy thinking of what MC could pull out of the vault for Daydream 30.
(Saturday 3 February 2024; 02:18)
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Recording Academy Global Impact Award (105,211)
by Jamie from UK
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I wasn't overly keen on her choice of outfit. Top half was fine but the bottom half or lack of it wasn't great. Just my opinion.
(Friday 2 February 2024; 10:11)
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Recording Academy Global Impact Award (105,209)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I’ve never heard of this award. Why is Mariah paying dust or why is it exciting? Can someone educate me on this history? (I’m being sincere, I’m totally ignorant to this award.) Thank you for explaining the polarization on this award convo.
(Friday 2 February 2024; 05:05)
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Prized MC possession vs. item lost (105,197)
by Jamie from UK
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No way I have that promo of Forever.
(Wednesday 31 January 2024; 20:49)
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Prized MC possession vs. item lost (105,187)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I got to thinking today of my most prized MC possession and an item that I lost. My most prized MC possession is my UK Love Takes Time single with Vanishing and You Need Me. MC looks so pretty on the cover. I don't know where I bought a UK CD single from. My guess is from a music store in the 90s that ordered import CDs. My item lost is not buying an special promo version CD of Forever and Forever live version. I don't why I left out of that music store without that CD single in my hand. The owner priced it for $4. It is worth $100 dollars now on eBay.
(Wednesday 31 January 2024; 00:39)
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Muni Long (105,185)
by Jamie from UK
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Ah I stay on Peachtree when I go to ATL. I’m there Friday.
(Tuesday 30 January 2024; 16:41)
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Muni Long (105,180)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Robert-Anthony, this is so random. I'm in ATL for work this week and staying on Peachtree St. Hahahaha Vancouver to Atlanta couldn't be farther apart, yet here I sit in my hotel room on Peachtree St. on my first night here. I haven't been to ATL in almost four years. What a random coincidence.
(Tuesday 30 January 2024; 06:54)
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Who is Caution about? (105,167)
by Jamie from UK
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I was only thinking about Ben Margulies the other day. Do you think he was infatuated with Mariah and that's why he was side lined? Seems odd that he co wrote her first three singles all going to number one. I may have forgotten something from the book, it's a while since I read it and I'm old lol. Was it the start of Tommy's control?
Was also curious the other day, had Mariah not wanted to break out into R&B at the time would her marriage to Tommy have lasted longer? She clearly says in Petals that she really loved him. If he'd not been so controlling I wonder if they could have worked for longer. Relationships are complicated things and sometimes it's a case of two people being out the worst in each other but you can still truly love the person. Had they lasted longer in be interested to see what her next couple of albums would have been like, Glitter wouldn't have happened, whilst bipolar is generally inherited (I have it myself) she may not have had such a severe breakdown and maybe would not have as many issues now.
This is just me thinking hypothetically I'm just interested in peoples spin on things.
(Monday 29 January 2024; 11:00)
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Who is Caution about? (105,143)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I think Giving Me Life is about Derek Jeter or Mark Sudak. Both men gave her a happy relationship for a moment in time. Although, Mark Sudak was too behind the scenes probably for MC to married. Did she ever take him to Aspen? 8th Grade is about Ben Marguiles. The Distance is most definitely about Tanaka. Great topic, Matty.
(Sunday 28 January 2024; 00:36)
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Starboy (105,081)
by Jamie from UK
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Then why post an AI video? Mariah is more than capable of producing her own sound and all these AI videos are not true to reality.
(Thursday 25 January 2024; 09:25)
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Starboy (105,078)
by Norman from USA
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Nowhere did I suggest she try AI or anything of the sort. It was merely an observation and thought on a new course of action. This song is contemporary R&B and electro pop which could be fresh for her and open her sound back to some pop. Sheesh.
(Thursday 25 January 2024; 03:29)
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