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About Jamie from UK: Mariah fan since 1990, favourite album is Music Box, Favourite song is Can't Let Go.

Daydream 30 (114,220) by Jamie from UK Yeah I noticed that I thought she would have done them all. (Saturday 18 July 2026; 01:09) this is a reply to message 114,213

Daydream 30 (114,213) by Dennis from Miami, FL She commented only a half of the tracks. I wish she shared more. Also there's nothing about Someone's Ugly Daughter. (Friday 17 July 2026; 15:58)

Daydream 30 (114,206) by Jamie from UK If you have Amazon music she introduces each song and gives a description. She sounds quite sedated but nice to hear her take on each track. (Friday 17 July 2026; 12:08) this is a reply to message 114,204

Daydream 30 (114,204) by Bill from the UK Agree, the tracklist looks great though it's a shame to not see the Rotterdam Hero and Emotions included as they were epic, especially Hero where she took the whole bridge to another level and her stratospheric belts. The Underneath the Stars remix sounds good, I was always a fan of Eric Kupper mixes in the 90s, didn't know he was still knocking around. I am really really intrigued with the writing sessions, especially with it featuring Walter and Babyface. (Friday 17 July 2026; 09:42)

Daydream 30 (114,203) by Jamie from UK Underneath The Stars Eric Kupper mix is my favourite. I was hoping for a couple more unheard songs but the live songs from Rotterdam are great. She defo could have included some London ones for Bill and I to reminisce. I'm not over keen on acappella tracks as a whole if I'm honest but it's great to hear her voice on the writing sessions. (Friday 17 July 2026; 09:17) this is a reply to message 114,199

Daydream 30 (114,199) by Bobby A from United States The tracklist is worth it. It is like we are getting a brand new Daydream album. (Thursday 16 July 2026; 19:56)

Whitney vs MC (114,158) by Jamie from UK Fantastic post Ed. I used to defend Mariah to the hills now I don't. I'm honest about her current ability and quite open that I will not go to her concerts again at this time. Whilst it's sad, I find being honest more helpful to myself. Maybe Mariah needs to start being more honest or at least the people around her. (Tuesday 14 July 2026; 09:17) this is a reply to message 114,156

Whitney vs MC (114,156) by Edward from USA Perception matters, my dear, especially when it comes to being taken seriously as an artist. Whitney was always Whitney. At her peak, she was phenomenal, and at her lowest, she never relied on smoke and mirrors to convince people she could still sing the way she once did. Everyone knew her voice had declined, but she still got on stage and sang. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't, but people respected the honesty. She also remained grounded. Even during the darkest periods of her life, she came across as authentic and self aware. She could sit down for an interview, have an intelligent conversation, laugh at herself, and connect with people. That authenticity went a long way in shaping how the public perceived her. In my opinion, Mariah is actually the superior overall vocalist. Her range, agility, musicality, and songwriting place her in a league of her own. But somewhere along the way, as Britney once said, she started believing her own hype, and everything went downhill from there. The biggest issue isn't even the vocal decline itself. It happens to every great singer eventually. Aretha's voice was basically shot by the time she passed. The difference is how Mariah chose to handle it. She leaned more and more into heavy lipping, to the point where entire concerts often feel more choreographed around playback cues than live singing. There's a huge difference between using backing tracks for a difficult climax or to protect your voice and essentially lipping through 80% of a concert. Whitney was booed in Australia and criticized elsewhere because people could hear that her voice wasn't what it once was. Some fans even walked out. But she still stood there and sang. She didn't try to convince the audience they were hearing something they weren't. Whether people enjoyed the performance or not, there was an honesty to it that earned respect. People also forget that Whitney remained remarkably consistent for nearly two decades. Even on "Just Whitney", released in 2002, she still sounded very good considering everything she was dealing with. Mariah's vocal consistency, on the other hand, began to decline much earlier, only about seven years into her career. She could still blow and make great albums like "Glitter", but reproducing that level of singing live became increasingly difficult, and that's what stayed in people's minds. Then there's the performance aspect. Whitney remained a natural entertainer almost until the end. Mariah, by contrast, has become increasingly limited on stage over the past decade. Whether it's because of physical limitations, high heels, or simply her bipolar condition, she often appears stiff and overly cautious, which only reinforces the perception that everything is carefully controlled. So yes, I still believe Mariah is the greater overall artist. But I also think she bears the responsibility for the way she's perceived today. It's not just because her voice changed. It's because of the image she cultivated, the reliance on heavy lipping, and the over the top diva persona that eventually ended up lifting her feet from solid ground and devouring her. Legacy isn't built solely on vocal ability, chart records, or awards. It's also built on credibility, authenticity, and the impression you leave on people. That's why artists like Whitney, Barbra Streisand, and Celine Dion continue to command a certain level of universal respect. Their accomplishments matter, but so does the way they've carried themselves. Mariah's legacy is extraordinary, and nothing can erase what she's accomplished. But perception matters. It's what people remember when your name comes up in conversation. Sadly, even many of her longtime fans who once proudly wore her name on their heads now prefer to keep it to themselves. I don't think that's because we've stopped loving her. It's because, over the years, she's made it increasingly difficult for us to defend her, people can't seem to separate the legendary artist from the diva persona she's keeps holding on to. She really thinks the diva persona is killing it, and she's actually right about it. (Monday 13 July 2026; 17:16)

MC's best bridge (114,093) by Jamie from UK Everything I do is for you And you are every part of me And I don't want to face Another day Alone Without your love (Saturday 4 July 2026; 09:38) this is a reply to message 114,091

MC's best bridge (114,091) by Stacey from USA Tell me what you need Let me give you all of me 'Cause without you nothing's real You're the reason that I feel Tell me what you need Let me give you everything Every moment I'm alive Until the end of time life (Saturday 4 July 2026; 00:19)

Getting our Mariah back (114,045) by Jamie from UK Changing the subject... I'm just watching a Madonna interview here in the UK, and whilst her behaviour over recent years has been questionable it's nice to see that she's still coherent and can hold a conversation with the interviewer. She's both relaxed and engaged and relatable. This is as we've said where Mariah is going wrong, the body of work she produced for [Here for it all] was great but you can't connect with her on a regular level. Madonna is drawing me in as I'm able to connect with her and who she was is still there, she's still the Madonna we know. If Mariah could get back to that level of connection I'm sure she could draw more people into her new music. I really think that should be her main focus now, have someone to manage her persona as such, get her more connected with her audience again and get her back to who she was and who people know. If it means disappearing for a year or so completely to get herself back then so be it. (Saturday 27 June 2026; 11:11)

Taylor Swift (114,044) by Jamie from UK I've never got the Taylor hype. I liked a few songs from the Red and 1989 albums but couldn't tell you any after that. I think it's been a very calculated business venture that's paid off. No singers have become billionaires before, this was a strategically planned exercise using social media to captivate the audience especially the young generation. Although as we know nothing lasts forever so watch this space. Mariah and all the other greats earned their audience and awards from hard work and people physically going out to buy their music. Now you don't even have to get off your couch for it to count towards a number one. I know what I'd rather have achieved and it's definitely not the Taylor model. (Saturday 27 June 2026; 11:09) this is a reply to message 114,040

Taylor Swift (114,040) by Randy from USA Even though I don't post much more anymore, I still troll this board to catch reactions, I'm shocked no one has anything to say about Taylor Swift's 15th number one. Has everyone just resigned MC is not gonna hold on to her record? Ima be honest, when I used to spar against a Whitney fan about MC having more number ones. He used to say, yeah but Whitney's are known. I could make the argument Didn't We Almost Have It All isn't well known. For MC Thank God I Found You is obscure. But with Taylor Swift and Drake, I maybe could name 4 a piece. Maybe it's generational. I mean The Beatles are musicians, singers and songwriters. Mariah was a masterful vocalist and is still a killer songwriter. Whitney is probably the greatest live singer of all time. MJ and Madonna are American cultural iconic figures as much as Coke and Levi's. I just don't see Taylor Swift, Rihanna or Drake anywhere near as important. That's the insult of MCs record being in jeopardy for me. (Friday 26 June 2026; 21:23)

It's a wrap (114,020) by Jamie from UK I’ll have to dig out my ticket and see what seat I was in relation to you lol. Yes we lived through the best times. Artists decline over the years is inevitable but I would never in a million years have predicted we would be where we are at now. (Friday 19 June 2026; 16:29) this is a reply to message 114,019

It's a wrap (114,019) by Bill from the UK Me too. I've found some peace living in my 90s bubble and enjoying her performances, interviews, albums, and remixes from that decade. So glad I was there at the time and witnessed it all first hand, and I'll be eternally grateful that I attended the Daydream Tour's London concert. I still get a pang when I watch her interview on This Morning in the UK, where she said "I would never lip sync." Oh Mariah. (Friday 19 June 2026; 15:35)

It's a wrap (114,018) by Jamie from UK Yes watching her early interviews she's all about the music. Now all she really cares about is how she looks, some of which will have affected her voice indirectly and directly. She once said she wasn't all about the glitz and glamour. Now that's all she's about. It's a real shame she went this way, but she only has herself to blame. It was cute at first but eventually it's overtaken the music and even her personality. She will never be like she was but it would be nice for her to still be humble and connected. I used to follow Mariah to hotels just to get a glimpse of her, I couldn't wait to see her on TV or in concerts, I'd constantly be chasing down memorabilia. It's a sad day when I'm clinging onto the old Mariah and the pre 2016 Mariah as I currently feel disconnected from who she is right now. It makes me sad to feel this way. (Friday 19 June 2026; 14:21) this is a reply to message 114,017

It's a wrap (114,017) by Dave from USA I would agree. It is odd that once she broke away from Tommy, where you would think she would continue to shine personally, she actually seemed to have less and less self esteem publicly. I'm not sure if it was the declining voice, which appears shot now, or because she started to put so much of her identity on her antics and looks, that as she aged, she grew more insecure. I was watching an old tape from when I saw her live in 92. She was so alive up on stage and her voice was so incredible. (Thursday 18 June 2026; 20:36)

Music Box tour (MSG) (113,919) by Jamie from UK Thanks for that, she really was a force of nature there. (Friday 5 June 2026; 09:25) this is a reply to message 113,912

Music Box tour (MSG) (113,912) by Billy from Greece I was revisiting this concert today. Such a force vocally, a generational talent no doubt. When she breaks into the club remix of "Dreamlover" and starts vibing and adlibbing, wow, what a time to be young and experience that concert. She's practically jogging on stage while belting out. So nostalgic watching her so young and delivering at the max of her powers. (Wednesday 3 June 2026; 12:23)

What a breath of fresh air MCA is (113,870) by Jamie from UK Welcome to the site Syed. Great post and insight into things. (Wednesday 27 May 2026; 16:02) this is a reply to message 113,849

What a breath of fresh air MCA is (113,849) by Syed from UK Hey everyone. I never knew about this site until today. I can't begin to tell you how refreshing it is to see actual conversations about our queen as opposed to an endless barrage of GIF's and emoji's under every Mariah post on Facebook, Insta, etc. And well articulated conversations - at that. I might not completely agree with every comment I've read, I think 1 or 2 border on overly critical, but it's good to see a diverse mixture of opinions from Lambs, without overt censorship. I agree with some of the viewpoints here that Mariah increasingly does not seem like her usual self these days. It may be her condition, a side effect of medication, or past (and recent) trauma resurfacing, a combination of all the above, or... something unrelated. As Lambs, the best thing we can do is to support Mariah in any we we can. Because that's what she did for us through countless songs such as: Hero, Can't take that away, Make it happen, and so many others. We also need to overlook any behaviors we might not agree with because A) It's hard to trust anything you see online anymore (thanks AI) and media never shows us the true picture, only a distorted version that "sells" better. And B) We are not in her shoes, as much as we may think we know her, we only know her through the lens of the media, mostly. What she may be going through or battling internally and how they might manifest outwardly are things we need to be mindful of. Just be kind. As she has always been to us. What do I feel could help? Well... if I had a magic wand I'd whisk Mariah away to a place where she could spend some time being in touch with nature, walk down a street without being recognized, and feel genuine excitement reconnecting with the simple things in life. It may not solve everything but I could literally guarantee that she'd feel a positive difference. Call it intuition (I share a lot of uncanny coincidences with Mariah) or just my observation of Mariah over the years and knowing the person she is beneath the exterior. About me: - Lamb since 1993 - when I first heard Dreamlover in a clothes store. - I can confidently say I wouldn't be where I am today, without her music to help me through so many rough times. - Creator of the "40 Hidden Mariah songs challenge" which is a tribute to Mimi plus fun Easter Egg hunt for the Lambily, you can catch it here if you'd like to try solving it. - Recorded and released my own song in 2 languages based on a wish to "pay forward" what Mariah's music did for me, with a song that gives others hope. Took me just 20 years to make it happen. Have a great weekend everyone and again really nice to meet you all. (Saturday 23 May 2026; 19:26)

Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,756) by Jamie from UK Thanks for the edit Eric, what I called her debut/first album is her 2nd. I always thought the [I want your love] album came after Brenda K. Starr and By Heart. The Brenda K. Starr is the best. (Friday 1 May 2026; 16:34) this is a reply to message 113,755

Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,755) by Jamie from UK Plus Brenda's 2nd album "By Heart" [ed: third album] is no where as good as her debut album. The fact she was dropped isn't anything to do with Mariah. Brenda's first album is one of my cycling and running playlist as it's pure 80's vibes (Friday 1 May 2026; 15:14)

Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,755) by Jamie from UK Plus Brenda's 2nd album "By Heart" [ed: third album] is no where as good as her debut album. The fact she was dropped isn't anything to do with Mariah. Brenda's first album is one of my cycling and running playlist as it's pure 80's vibes (Friday 1 May 2026; 15:14) this is a reply to message 113,752

Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,752) by TJ from Norway But Brenda K Starr is also making up a story here, isn't she (not asking myself, just adding something more to my other message)? Didn't Mariah release I still Believe in 1998 or something, and the Around the World DVD in 99? Wasn't her breakdown in 2001? We are all getting older and forgetful. That includes Brenda too. (Friday 1 May 2026; 10:12)

Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,753) by Jamie from UK Yeah that part was wrong on Brenda's side. (Friday 1 May 2026; 11:14) this is a reply to message 113,752

Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,752) by TJ from Norway But Brenda K Starr is also making up a story here, isn't she (not asking myself, just adding something more to my other message)? Didn't Mariah release I still Believe in 1998 or something, and the Around the World DVD in 99? Wasn't her breakdown in 2001? We are all getting older and forgetful. That includes Brenda too. (Friday 1 May 2026; 10:12)

Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,748) by Jamie from UK I enjoyed watching that, I think the whole thing is a lot more complicated than we will ever know. Brenda asking Mariah to help her after she was dropped, probably put Mariah in an awkward situation where she couldn't get involved even if she wanted too. We don't know if Brenda was asking for stuff all the time, and there has to be a cut off at some point. Alison used to say Mariah had never helped her or given her anything but that wasn't true, she'd had multiple amounts of money and help. Do I think Mariah should have done more for Brenda, yes I do, and to be cut off again after the [I still believe] cover and then not to recognize her at a concert must hurt. When you get to Mariah's level I guess you aren't as accessible anymore but it would be nice for Mariah to keep in contact with her after what she did for her, they don't have to be best friends but I think Mariah should reach out to her. (Thursday 30 April 2026; 18:52) this is a reply to message 113,745

Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,745) by Haiji from United States Any thoughts? After watching this, I actually feel bad for her. I'm not sure how much of this story is true but it's sad to see her tell it. (Thursday 30 April 2026; 15:10)

New old interview from 1992 (113,722) by Jamie from UK She says she doesn't want to over shadow who she is as a singer with too much glitz and glam. How far from the truth she is now. She was so confident back then, she knew what she wanted to do and was so true to herself. (Tuesday 28 April 2026; 02:29) this is a reply to message 113,718

New old interview from 1992 (113,718) by Philipp from Switzerland I came across this new old interview from 1992. Mariah speaks about her videos, MTV Unplugged and touring. I think it's really interesting and I think the interview was spot on when he asked Mariah if she ever felt rebellious or like a sheltered princess. (Monday 27 April 2026; 19:28)

New old interview from 1992 (113,721) by Jamie from UK Everything she says in that interview is Mariah. She is so far removed from all those views now. (Tuesday 28 April 2026; 02:13) this is a reply to message 113,718

New old interview from 1992 (113,718) by Philipp from Switzerland I came across this new old interview from 1992. Mariah speaks about her videos, MTV Unplugged and touring. I think it's really interesting and I think the interview was spot on when he asked Mariah if she ever felt rebellious or like a sheltered princess. (Monday 27 April 2026; 19:28)

JD as MC's manager (113,720) by Jamie from UK Dangerous is the best album. Pure 1991 vibes. (Tuesday 28 April 2026; 02:09) this is a reply to message 113,713

JD as MC's manager (113,713) by MusicfanJ from Germany Oh I didn't know this thing with JD and Teddy Riley. Hmm yeah maybe they both had other thoughts with the musical direction for Mariah. Teddy and Mariah would be interesting. I'm listening a lot of Micheal's Dangerous album lately, it's not my favourite of him (although it has so many great songs) but the new jack swing tracks are still phenomenal. I also love "Give in to me". But yes for a Teddy Riley song for Mariah. (Monday 27 April 2026; 14:05)

The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,712) by Jamie from UK I still think she had vocal surgery and it failed, her voice is completely changed, it's weak and the tone is completely different even to [Caution] vocals. (Monday 27 April 2026; 06:23) this is a reply to message 113,710

The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,710) by Bobby A from United States I listened to HFIA yesterday. Afterwards, I wondered what caused MC's voice to deteroiate to its current state from 2020-2025. Did MC stop practicing all the healthy vocal routines that she used during Charmbraclet to Memoirs eras? I noticed that she doesn't talk about those vocal routines anymore. Did her break-up with Tanaka cause stress that affected her voice anymore? Anyway, I saw an unseen video of MC singing Play This Song solo and it was hard to watch. I hope that she can get some rest this summer and have fun on her new yacht instead of performing. This summer, MC should let Ariana's new album with all the Rainbow influences make her smile and proud. (Sunday 26 April 2026; 23:07)

The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,707) by Jamie from UK Yeah I agree with the vocals, I don’t agree that [In Your Feelings] was the best she could do in all that time or at least in the time she had. (Sunday 26 April 2026; 11:00) this is a reply to message 113,704

The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,704) by Edward from USA "Play This Song" is nice melodically, but the delivery just feels flat as flat can be. It kind of comes off a bit soulless to me, which is a shame because it had potential. I don't know if Mariah realizes that an album without at least a little bit of that signature "Mariah" sprinkled in here and there just doesn't hit the same. She doesn't have to be belting all the time, but she had plenty of time, and a real chance, to lay down stronger vocals for HFIA, especially since a lot of those songs were recorded years ago. (Saturday 25 April 2026; 19:07)

The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,696) by Jamie from UK I love Play This Song, the vibe is great if the vocals compared to say Emancipation it would have surely done better. (Friday 24 April 2026; 09:43) this is a reply to message 113,694

The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,694) by Stacey from USA Here For It All has that Daydream/Butterfly/TEOM vibe. It's just that the vocals don't match those earlier albums. I was listening to Play This Song on my way home from work yesterday, and that arrangement is brilliance. Maybe the melody and the song as whole isn't everyone's cup of tea, but the musicality is absolutely there 100%. That is why I'm so torn about HFIA. (Thursday 23 April 2026; 20:54)

Article: Mariah Carey traded her signature gowns for pants in NYC (113,689) by Jamie from UK Yes mh friend sent me it and we both agreed she was much more coherent and relaxed. (Tuesday 21 April 2026; 23:01) this is a reply to message 113,685

Article: Mariah Carey traded her signature gowns for pants in NYC (113,685) by Lighty from China Did you guys see the new TMZ video? Mariah looks the most relaxed in like a really really long time. She's even chewing a gum (or something else). I'm so happy for her. (Tuesday 21 April 2026; 16:20)

The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,682) by Jamie from UK This is the problem now, the negativity starts to over shadow the greatness. Most fans on here this past week have been honest and truthful about her current state and by some it's been seen as bashing. All we want for Mariah is for her to be remembered for how great she was, and to have the respect she so deserves. We are still fans, probably even more so than the yass queens because we truly care about Mariah and her legacy. I'm at the point now if she were to bow out and call it a day I'm cool with that. It doesn't mean I don't believe in her, I just don't want her to be ridiculed and ruin her legacy. I was listening to Dreamlover the other day whilst out on a walk, and I got a feeling of not being able to relate to that Mariah with the way she is at the moment, to me it's like she's lost her personality, and I can't match the two together. Whilst only a brief feeling it occurred to me that if I'm feeling like this as a super fan then the general public only see what they see now. To me there's always been two Mariah's pre and post breakdown that I've had difficulty matching up but at the moment she's neither of these which is even more difficult for me to process. (Monday 20 April 2026; 10:38) this is a reply to message 113,679

The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,679) by Giovanni from USA If Mariah has no plans to retire and wants to be successful again and wants to get her voice back I think naming her next album The Revival Of Mariah Carey would truly be the best album title of her career and would make a statement. I thought when she released her memoir The Meaning Of Mariah Carey that it would have been an excellent album title. I wish Mariah would get a new circle of people/team. I would like her to rest more and work on her voice and come back with a new album in 2027 or 2028. I was so sad and angry at all the horrible comments I read on social media regarding her recent performance at T&Co. She was getting dragged left and right even commenting on her hair. She definitely has lost respect from the public and not just as of now, for awhile. Sadly she's seen as a joke to many as it's all about the glamour and less about her voice. I hope those of you who are religious can keep Mariah in your prayers and ask God to help and protect her. We already lost MJ and Whitney we cannot lose MC. (Monday 20 April 2026; 05:15)

Glitter 25th anniversary (113,669) by Jamie from UK Imagine it would be up there with her doing I will survive in that restaurant that time. (Sunday 19 April 2026; 12:41) this is a reply to message 113,668

Glitter 25th anniversary (113,668) by Bill from the UK Mariah should absolutely not attempt any sort of remake or "live studio" version of Lead the Way. That song is perfect and 2026 Mariah will catastrophically ruin it if she even attempts to go near it. If she attempts to sing that final run live it would probably kill her. (Sunday 19 April 2026; 09:17)

Mariah at Tiffany & Co. (113,645) by Jamie from UK Yeah there's something definitely wrong with her. It was a painful watch both physically and vocally for me. It's really sad she is like this. I just saw a few more clips, and some were not too bad actually but Hero and WBT were hard to watch for me. Touch My Body and Obsessed are the better two. (Saturday 18 April 2026; 02:13) this is a reply to message 113,644

Mariah at Tiffany & Co. (113,644) by Giovanni from USA Mariah looked nice and was singing live at Tiffany & Co. but it's so painful and hard to see her so medicated. I saw her sign some autographs and she looked so robotic and out of space. It's not only sad but scary because it's like she's being controlled in some evil way. I thought she sounded decent but completely disconnected from reality. Even if she was retired from music and had no contracts I still would worry. She's 57 and is handled around like she's an elderly woman, it's weird. And before anyone comes at me I love Mariah and I think my posts prove that it's just hard to see her this way. (Saturday 18 April 2026; 00:21)

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