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Re: Tomas Mottola (70,976) (70,987)
by Edward from USA
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While Angelil managed her, guided her and supported her, he wasn't the one who brought Sony unstoppable machine behind her to support and develop her. Angelil was an instrumental part of the equation, but it wouldn't have happened were it not been for Tommy, the man was a beast. He helped build Celine from the ground up in her English singing career. I don't like Tommy as a person because his obsession with Mariah made him do crazy things that affected her deeply. By trying to coerce DJ's into not playing Mariah due to his huge influence back then and basically stealing the sample used on Loverboy before it was released, it was a hit below the belt, I had it with him. I do not like him, but I don't dismiss what he did for Mariah. Those who have read Damizza's book (approved by Mariah) would realize how she appreciated non sycophantic input. Neither Damizza nor Puffy was ever ass kissers with her either. I think the only other person who keeps it real with her is J.D., the rest, well, we see what has been going on for years now.
(Sunday 8 January 2017; 15:57)
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The foundation of Mimi (70,983)
by Edward from USA
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Developing an artist career is the key to their success. It's like creating a solid foundation on which a skyscraper is going to be built. If the foundation is not solid, everything would eventually come crashing down. I'm happy Mariah had a great foundation. Mariah was being developed for two years, she wasn't a YouTube singer who was sent to the studio to record singles. She was paired with the best producers of that time, she was guided and taught so when "Mariah Carey" was released, she was not just an amateur. That's the way the music industry worked back then. Many acts would start seeing the results of this development usually after their third album, since it was the only way for record labels to recoup their investments. Mariah is sitting on nearly 10 year solid foundation that have kept her afloat one way or the other. Her voice along with her artistry, creativity, delivery and passion were carefully and meticulously delivered by exceptional management and a publicity machine behind like no other. I'm pretty sure that had Mariah gone all Hip Hop on us after her first album, she wouldn't be the star that she is right now. How do you describe an album like "Daydream", a masterpiece in my eyes. I'm happy things happened gradually, and not abruptly. "Butterfly" was a departure from her Mary Poppins image into a more sexy one, but it worked. It alienated part of her fanbase, but she had to grow and be true to her herself. As I said, there have always been great lyricists and vocalists out there, we see it in church, we see it on YouTube, but it takes more than that to make a star.
(Sunday 8 January 2017; 15:36)
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Re: Tomas Mottola (70,980) (70,982)
by Edward from USA
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For you information, Rene Angelil was Celine's Dion manager, but Tommy was the one who developed Celine's career in English. The same support and muscle he made sure Sony put behind Mariah, he did put behind Celine. Tommy wasn't just a manager, that's where your delusions keep you blind. Let me quote this for you to open those ears of yours (all caps): "Tommy Mottola is widely well known for developing, and nurturing the careers of Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, Gloria Estefan, Destiny's Child, Anastacia, Shakira, and the Dixie Chicks." While Rene was instrumental in Celine's success as an exceptional manager, advisor and husband, the big work was being crafted and put together by Sony led by Tommy, who was the one orchestrating everything. Celine was lucky to have Angelil by her side because he, unlike Alpha-Tella, made sure that whatever she got into was the best, but having an exceptional manager is not enough when you don't have the support behind of a the great team from a label. So, if there's a foolish person here is you, making it seem as if Mariah had many deals or offers when Tommy grabbed that tape and turned back, she was in talks with Wagner, but the fact she kept on looking tells you they didn't quite see what Tommy saw in her. I'm done with you and your delusions, so I'm not addressing any of your posts anymore because you lack objectivity, and I can't deal with people who live in a square box. Bye Terna.
(Sunday 8 January 2017; 14:23)
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Tomas Mottola (70,968)
by Edward from USA
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Tommy Mottola took Celine Dion and made her a huge star too, so his accomplishments didn't stop with Mariah, as a matter of fact, Celine was bigger than Mariah when Butterfly was released. Let's not pretend the man was a one-star wonder because he wasn't. He was very successful. Do I like Tommy personally? I don't. After he tried to sabotage Mariah, I lost respect for him as a person. Does that take way his expertise and experience? No it doesn't. And no, Mariah wasn't being chased with offers of record deals left and right, people thought she sounded too much like Whitney. Tommy turned back looking for her because, and unlike the rest, he is visionary and saw her star power and potential, just like Dr. Dre gave Eminem a chance when his demo tapes were being tossed in the garbage. Both Eminem and Mariah are excellent lyricists, she, an excellent vocalist, he, an excellent rapper. So, let's not fool ourselves regardless of whatever happened between them that he is not partially responsible for her success. His input is as valid now as it was then. His input is not an emotional one, like some of you "super lambs" are taking it. I rarely hear the "super lambs" addressing Stella's experience and expertise, they usually talk about anything but that. They rather have Stella drown Mariah's career than Tommy saying a positive and wise advice that could put her back on top again should she heed it. Emotional "super lambs" much. Many of you are just a bunch of Mollies (Alpha-Tella's assistance). I'm pretty sure some of you were cast for the "Molly" part, but you were told they were looking for dumb, but you were giving dummer. Who cares where the advice is coming from as long as it works for the best for Mariah?
(Sunday 8 January 2017; 2:43)
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Re: Alpha-Tella? (70,961) (70,964)
by Edward from USA
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Ribbon, Mariah referred to Stella and Mary Ann, in one of the episodes of "Mariah's Gang", as being "Alpha Females" hence their men attitudes. Then she implied she was one too. That's the last episode I pushed myself to watch, but I'm done with that mess. Licia, you're lucky you didn't even try. Now with paid actress Molly, things are even more of a joke.
(Sunday 8 January 2017; 1:56)
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Stella, you've revealed yourself (70,948) (70,954)
by Edward from USA
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MesStella, stop pretending, will ya? You've been the worst thing that has happened to Mariah, the worst. Her career is at an all time low because you don't know shit about music or how to manage her brand. This is Mariah f**king Carey we're talking about. I know you have a few sycophants on this board, for all I know they could be accounts created by your family. When you're long gone, we'll still be here. I just hope you don't take Mariah down with you. You are unprofessional and an asshole, you don't have manners or decorum, you shouldn't even be even called a woman, Alpha-tella would be better. Hurry up and keep giving out interviews, we're loving every minute of it. The more you talk, another nail goes on the coffin of your career.
(Sunday 8 January 2017; 0:41)
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The "Real Fans" of social media (70,929) (70,938)
by Edward from USA
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Following an artist on social media doesn't necessarily means they're going to buy her music. Twitter, Facebook and Instagram don't necessarily translate into sales or support. Had it been that way, where were those fans when MIAM dropped? And please do not use the excuse that MIAM wasn't promoted so they didn't know, if they were real fans of Mariah's, they should've known, just like we all here did. That should give you an indication that regardless of social media, Mariah doesn't have many fans left. You condescending attempt at dismissing fans from this messageboard labeling us "old fans", as if we didn't now what's going on or don't represent a core part of her remaining fan-base is ridiculous. As I said before, the TEOM was successful because she had great music, great guidence, she was listening, and she had a great experience seasoned manager. Those things didn't just happen, they were carefully put in place. If Mariah keep going this way, when she drops her next project, however great, she'll have her rude awaken, then I would like to see what your excuse is going to be. While most of her fair-weather fans have gone with the wind, we're still here not matter what. Barbra Streisand amassed a core fanbase that will follow her to her grave and after, Mariah can't say the same. Now ask yourself why?
(Saturday 7 January 2017; 17:27)
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Re: Blind Gossip article (70,871) (70,872)
by Edward from USA
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Nick and Mariah are friends, and seem to be co-parenting very well. Only they know what happened between them, the rest is pure speculation. Mariah wasn't a damsel in distress when Nick met her, she was a grown ass woman, even older than Nick and very well seasoned. Listening to his version of the way they were when they were a couple is as interesting as listening to Mariah and her alleged diss songs. The truth is usually right in the middle. So, there's nobody to demonize here, they got into it, they were happily married for six years, and they ended it. It takes two to tango.
(Thursday 5 January 2017; 22:37)
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Knock knock, having a blond moment? (70,861)
by Edward from USA
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Those who are talking shit about Tommy and his open letter are missing the point. What some of the "super-lambs" should consider is whether the advice is something you would agree with if it hadn't come from him. Focus on the advice, and not just on the parts you don't like about it just because it's coming from Tommy. Some of you decide to bypass the part where he speaks highly of Mariah. Tommy's advice is what we've been regurgitating for long time now, Marissa even put together well-intention petition that fell in deaf ears, but now we have a way to make this message heard and all you focus is who the [censored] advice is coming from? It's ridi-[censored]-diculous. If Tommy said Mariah should keep Stella, I would be the first one to oppose it, but he's just giving her a great and free advice. Even though they didn't work as a couple, he helped Mariah developed her brand to a point where she could fly away freely on her own. Many artists were dropped from the Sony roster so they could invest in Mariah, because he saw her potential, so let's not pretend the man is not partially responsible for her success. There are many talented, beautiful, gifted vocalists and lyricists out there, but they never got the muscle behind then to build their careers. It took an incredible talent like Mariah and a visionary like Tommy to turn Mariah into a mega star. So from a business perspective do not dismiss the voice of experience and wisdom. On a side note, even though Beyoncé is nowhere near as talented as Mariah, let's not pretend Mariah is more popular and relevant than her when the woman drops an album and within a week sells a million, her brand is almost impeccable, her videos are great and well produced. Yes, exactly the way Mariah used to be.
(Thursday 5 January 2017; 19:16)
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Re: Stella's backlash (70,840) (70,846)
by Edward from USA
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Stella, just like the rest, signed a confidentiality agreement. Her lips would be sealed, believe me.
(Thursday 5 January 2017; 15:18)
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Nothing but the truth (70,845)
by Edward from USA
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Whether people like it or not, he spoke the truth. As many of us have stated here before, Mariah shouldn't be managed by an amateur just to save some money. She might've saved pennies but now she's spending dollars. Mariah's management is at an all time low professionally, and she seems to think everything is OK. Once she referred to her best friend/manager Stella as an alpha female, I knew Stella wouldn't be going anywhere anytime soon. So, it is safe to say that Mariah and Stella deserve each other. Mariah condones Stella's unprofessional behavior, since at the end of the day, and as Nick said, Mariah manages Mariah, she has the last word. Having a 13-year old managing her social media is also crazy, she should at least give Instagram to Stella's father to manage, and Twitter to Stella's mother. This docu-series is uninspired, messy and mediocre, also a flop. Instead of looking for fault or possible motives on Tommy's words, appreciate the fact that maybe even when she might hate it, his words could be read by her, because our efforts have been in total vain.
(Thursday 5 January 2017; 15:13)
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Re: Debacles and mishaps and exposés, oh my (70,780) (70,795)
by Edward from USA
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Marissa, you've expressed exactly my sentiment. As bad as the NYE was and judging by the way she's allowing Stella handle the whole situation, I can sadly inferred that Mariah hasn't learned a thing about this whole fiasco. She needs to understand that things are deeper rooted than they seem, and that the avalanche of criticism hasn't been only just because of what happened, but also because the way she's been coming across with her diva person and her occasional shade. Had Taylor Swift gone through that, people wouldn't have minded much. Had Mariah from 1990-2005 gone through that, I doubt she would have gotten all this criticism. When Glitter happened, some big names came out in her support stating that they too had gone through nervous breakdowns, she got sympathy because she was humble. The Mariah we have now doesn't come across as humble at all. One of things that L.A. Reid did before "The Emancipation of Mimi" was released was making sure she was likable again, by introducing Mariah to the DJ's from the main radio stations in a different light. People just don't like her, and if she doesn't see that, she'll keep facing all the hate. If she doesn't see it, it is a lost cause.
(Wednesday 4 January 2017; 23:12)
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Re: She was just being lifted, lifted (70,787) (70,793)
by Edward from USA
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Mimi L., you know I love you, but let's not go there. Mariah's whisper and how she gets there shouldn't be addressed in this platform. One must keep the decorum. In Mariah's name, I accept your humble apology though.
(Wednesday 4 January 2017; 22:54)
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She was just being lifted, lifted (70,750) (70,779)
by Edward from USA
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Stella just went on a TV show stating that Mariah gets lifted by her dancers so many times during her concerts and performances because she loves her fans. She confirmed what I was almost certain about, that when Mariah gets lifted, she sings higher. So, people should chill, she exposes her boobs to maximize her chest voice, and gets lifted to sing higher, we should give the woman some credit and stop whining and complaining.
(Wednesday 4 January 2017; 20:44)
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Fest suggestions to Mariah (70,676)
by Edward from USA
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I won't regurgitate what everybody has already stated concisely and precisely. These are a few suggestions to Mariah 1. Take a break from the spotlight for a year or so, you've already made enough headlines for the wrong reasons. Let us miss you, be elusive. 2. Get Mariah's Word off the air, it's not a good docu-series but it isn't good reality either. 3. Go back to that place where you had nature and horses around you while you wrote those great songs on a notepad. 4. Forget about touring for now, and focus on your babies, on your mother, on your music. 5. Work on your voice and comeback with great music. Great music is great regardless of chart position. 6. Lay off the booze, it has clearly affected your voice greatly, but there's still hope. Work with a vocal coach. 7. Get rid of Stella, even though she comes across as if she were always rooting for you, she and her foul mouth are about to get you in trouble because she lacks professionalism. 8. Take this NYE performance as a sign for you to humble yourself and get real professionals in control of those things you don't know We can't pretend this is an isolated incident, it has happened many times before at different magnitudes, but it has. The question would be, why does it keep happening?
(Tuesday 3 January 2017; 0:55)
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Re: Positivity and Edward (70,466) (70,486)
by Edward from USA
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Randy, what I like about "Right to Dream" is that it is just Mariah and a guitar, as simple as that, so I give her credit for that. I don't particularly think is a masterpiece lyrically, but it's very decent and the message reminds us why her music have helped so many people. Mariah's voice also sounds amazing without having to tweak anything, it sounds real. I hereby declare "Right to Dream" as "Andy's Theme". I do like the fact that you're very passionate about Mariah's music. Just like you, many of us here know what she's capable of. Forget about the belting, about vocal acrobatics, number ones, and album sales, I think she still has the ability to produce a great critically acclaimed album, and I'm hoping for that. Oh, and that person who said "come back Edward" was just being sarcastic, obviously he/she meant the opposite, but since I do not know him/her, I didn't address that particular posts. Being part of this board since Eric started it 17 years ago, and as T.J. stated, we've seen many "super fans" come and go like flies on a wedding cake.
(Saturday 31 December 2016; 18:53)
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Re: Bleak (70,452) (70,454)
by Edward from USA
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Andrew, leave Randy alone with his "Right to Dream". Don't be an ass. Randy, as long as your students write nicely about Mariah and no Scientology, you're fine. I appreciate yours posts too.
(Friday 30 December 2016; 17:00)
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Mariah's impact (70,428) (70,431)
by Edward from USA
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I remember him too. He was the one who gave Mariah a family expensive ring that had belonged to his grandmother or something. The thing is that he gave her the ring but he didn't have money to pay his rent. Well, as Stella promised him, he got to be on Mariah's World. I just think Stella did it for the sake of the show though, not because of anything else.
(Thursday 29 December 2016; 22:43)
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Have those days of love really gone? (70,423)
by Edward from USA
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I think that for such a long time we've been left with anything from Mariah but music to talk about, everything is basically about her being a diva, her rich lifestyle, a thousand products she comes with here and there, but great music like she's got us used to has definitely moved to the background. Having the occasional good song ("Help Me Make It", "Almost Home", "My Love", "Right to Dream", etc) was always inspiring and kept us focused on her artistry. She has recorded so many songs she could release a couple of those in between albums, but sadly we get nada, at least nothing with near the quality of the aforementioned songs. I know we're living in different times where celebrities' lives are exposed for everybody to see, but after a while it takes always some of the excitement of not knowing what comes next, especially from an artist like Mariah. Mariah has always been to me about her great music, deep lyrics, and exceptional delivery. The fact that she was or at least appeared to be "Make It Happen" humble gave her credibility, not that she was just looking for the next catchy or hit song. Never had I imagined that, as an artist of her caliber, things were going to be more about her personal life than her music. I just hope she takes good care of herself, since some of the greatest have left us too song, George Michael was just 53, Whitney was just 48, Michael Jackson was just 50. When I say I miss 1990-2005, I say it because I miss the artist that she was, her eagerness to craft a great song, her ability to dig deep and inspire us with her lyrics. I know she's a mother and stuff, I understand she doesn't have the time to release an album annually, but I expect her to deliver a great product when she does release something, even if it's a single song or collabo. I'll be patiently here waiting for her next music project.
(Thursday 29 December 2016; 19:41)
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Re: Why not wearing them? They're cute (70,397) (70,401)
by Edward from USA
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Amen.
(Thursday 29 December 2016; 0:23)
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I want my meat from skinned-alive cows (70,398)
by Edward from USA
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Well, people have been eating meat for ages, but as time has progressed the methods in which these animal we eat are slaughtered have been more humane, again I say, humane. I'm pretty sure anybody who has a cat would be disgusted if its skin were ripped off of its body while the cat still suffering in pain. I don't remember the last cow that was skinned alive just so we could have meat that tastes juicier and better, I would be against it. These fur coats many people wear come from animals that oftentimes are skinned alive, some rabbits get they tail and sometimes legs cut off and left suffering, that's what I'm referring to, the cruelty. I had a cat that was sick with cancer and I had to put him to sleep, I didn't savagely smash its head against a wall, I did it the more humanely possible so that he would not suffer. So yes, we all have a responsibility here, and because many people have spoken, things are changing gradually. Those who want to wear their blood furry coats, good for them. It's about cruelty towards defenseless innocent animals who can't at least be put to dead quick and without pain.
(Wednesday 28 December 2016; 23:19)
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Re: I'm leaving MCA behind in 2016... shake it off (70,361) (70,369)
by Edward from USA
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If that were case, and Andrew were as bad as you implied, your post and Radhames' wouldn't have seen the light of day. Don't you think? MCArchives has always been this way, when most fans website have disappeared, this site has stayed up because the dedication Eric has put into keeping it up and because we can express our opinions whether some might like them or not. Through the years there have been many posts and even posters I haven't liked, but I appreciate the fact they were there and were allowed the same freedom to post as me and anybody else. I guess, somebody hacked www.Mariahsword.com, she's the one promoting fur coats.
(Wednesday 28 December 2016; 1:26)
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Why not wearing them? They're cute (70,368)
by Edward from USA
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For those who see nothing wrong with wearing fur coats, take a look at this video from Peta. You might not think the same way after you see it. Since when did human beings become so inhumane? Those who wear fur coats create the demand for them hence they're as responsible for the cruelty these animals are put through as the those who skin them alive or just kill them inhumanely for that purpose.
(Wednesday 28 December 2016; 1:06)
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Re: Fur coat? (70,355) (70,356)
by Edward from USA
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This is an excerpt from a Peta article titled "Me and Mariah" from November 9, 2006: "As with so many things these days, the whole chain of events was started off by a wealthy Russian oligarch. A big fan of Mariah’s work, he sent her a pair of ludicrously expensive fur coats in a misguided attempt to impress her. Mariah, understandably peeved about receiving dead animals in the mail from some sketchy Russian tycoon, immediately donated the coats to us." From that I inferred that she didn't promote nor wear fur coats, at least from that point on, but I was wrong, she still wears them. While Debbie Harry and Kim Cattrall donated all her fur coates to Peta on 2014, Mariah donated "some" of hers too, just some. So yes, she might have donated some of her coats, but it is evident she still wears them. I think it is sad because the way they skinned some of those animals alive is beyond disgusting. Maybe they should make a coat for her and those who use them from the skin of their beloved dogs, maybe they would stop. Let's see how the super fans defend this one. Maybe she wears them because she broke up with Packer and she's sad.
(Tuesday 27 December 2016; 22:45)
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Re: Ex-Wham singer George Michael dies (70,297) (70,305)
by Edward from USA
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I can't believe it. I love his music. All the great ones are fading away. So sad. The man could write and sing with such soul.
(Monday 26 December 2016; 1:09)
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