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Nathan Morris (Boyz II Men) comments / Will from England (49,825) by ADAM from USA I applaud his honesty and bravery to speak up about her downfall in these these times of need. I can't stand when celebrities die, how everyone comes out the woodworks including stylists, musicians and collaborators and proceed to spill the beans about how they knew there was a problem and never spoke out. He decided to buck the trend and speak out now and offer his feedback. For a long time now, Mariah has lost a great deal of inspiration for creating meaningful music and has not worked at preserving her voice. She has lost a spark and drive in her that's been difficult to watch for many many years. I hope his message finds a way to her and sparks a change. I also agree with Will's comments. Mariah is bullish and has a long history of refusing help. I believe she has a drinking problem that's more than celebratory and the only way she'll change change her pattern of behavior is to hit rock bottom and have another breakdown (Glitter). I don't believe she's hit that low point yet where she's needs to be hospitalized unfortunately to realize she has a problem. The problem with money and fame, is that it provides a bigger cushion for people to pad their problems and not see the truth from fiction in their minds. MC has too many enablers and one-sided mirrors to get help right now. Such a shame to see a talent like hers diminish and become ridiculed. (Friday 6 February 2015; 16:25)

Response to Shelly (49,769) by ADAM from USA You misunderstood the message I was trying to convey. I want her to succeed as much as anyone else on this board does, otherwise I would't waste my time contributing to this site nor worrying about some celebrity's career. I wish people on here wouldn't be so sensitive to someone else's critique of Mariah when it doesn't align with their own thoughts and opinions. Mariah is at a place in her career where she is struggling to stay relevant and also fradulently perform for audiences by not using her "live" voice. These are both big issues that are only increasingly getting worst the longer she keeps up the charade and not address it. I don't care about how many other performers do the same practice of lip syncing and produce crappy music. I care about Mariah. That's why I'm on this website and support certain projects she aligns herself with, which I feel are worth my time and money. Please realize that this website is a community of fans with different opinions about Mariah Carey who like to vent and air the highs and lows about their favorite singer. I think if you keep that in mind, the experience you have with this website and its members will go much smoother. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 22:57)

Mariah's karma / Mandy Monroe (49,749) by ADAM from USA Thank you Mandy Monroe for your comments earlier about karma. Your sentiments are my thoughts exactly. As a fan it's what's been frustrating me so long and more as time goes on that she keeps trying to pull the wool over our eyes and it just aint right. I think this period is lower than Glitter ever was and is even more destructive. She's is a embarrassment now. Look at any of the news media who run stories about Mariah now and all the comments are lampooning her. The public is over her lies and feels she needs to come clean. Kelly Price knew Mariah much more closely than anyone of us and she would be privy to all the tips and tricks Mariah did back in the day to conceal her shortcomings. All deeds done in the dark eventually come to light and this is her time. I'm not a debbie-downer but calling it like I see it. Mariah is no different than anyone else pulling a scam over our eyes. Some people on here need to take her off the idolized position she's on and realize its not healthy to view her as Christ. I hope she musters the courage the stop her own downfall and come clean. Time will tell. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 15:16)

Mariah's lip-sync rama continues (49,623) by ADAM from USA TMZ is receiving a lot of traction with the latest Mariah story in Jamaica. I hope this exposure gains more coverage not because I'm a hater but because it inspires change in people. Change in what the audience expects from singers when put up hard earned money to see someone "sing" to change (hopefully) in Mariah to sing in her "real" voice and stop with the long-time sham of "ear-piece" drama. While we may never know the real reason why Mariah is lying to the public, we can certainly change the way we "accept" what is right vs wrong. The world will be watching what happens in Las Vegas and I unfortunetly am happy I did not buy tickets to see her perform there. I saw her at Beacon and thought she was wonderful, however seeing the last few performances these past few months have me concerned that what I saw at Beacon was a mirage. I love Mariah's music but I will no longer blindly support anything she does. I work very hard for my money and I don't think it's right to take it away from me to put on a sham of a show. I knew Mariah as a singer and not some one-trick of a singer I used to know that pretends to sing-along. (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:19)

A thank you to all the fans on MCArchives (49,622) by ADAM from USA I'd like to say it's been an exciting last few days on this board with the nice diversity of opinions between fans about MC's performances as of late. While we may not all see eye to eye on everything (which is fine and encouraged), I enjoy the healthy debate about how we feel about a variety of topics concerning MC. The feedback on this board has been great because at times I've shifted my opinion on topics such as, as fans do we we have to right to have high expectations of MC, to is it fraudulent and acceptable to support MC if she lip syncs for shows when she's a singer by trade, all the way to, do we as fans have support inferior music by Mariah if we don't think its worthy (but support it in name because we follow her)? These topics are interesting to me and I think that just because we are all admirers of MC we should not be one-dimensional and blind to any fallacies or injustices that may arise on the part of MC when she falters. In conclusion, I'm happy this board exists as a platform for fans to express the love and frustrations about the great Mariah Carey. (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:07)

Mariah and the ear piece debacle (49,550) by ADAM from USA Does anyone else think that the ear piece monitor gig she always plays up during performances is a sham? I think it's intentional. I think there is nothing wrong with the audio feedback but it's just a way for her to fidget during performances so that if anyone suspects her of lip syncing she always credits the poor ear pieces. She has been consistently doing this trick for the last 17 years to cover up she can't sing anymore. YouTube any performance from Through The Rain to today. I'm just increasingly annoyed by her money grabbing antics of performing around the world for evil dictators and in countries where their own people are persecuted for being who they are and yet she spins out these horrendous shows. There's no reason in the world why she couldn't lip along to Fantasy correctly or use her own voice. She just keep cashing these checks along while playing us all fans who still want to watch her as fools. She never performs fan favorites "live", doesn't use social media to connect with us nor even changes up the shitty set lists. (Sunday 1 February 2015; 15:12)

My thoughts on MC performing at the Jazz Festival (49,519) by ADAM from USA I'm conflicted about this concert. One part of me loves the new riffs and ad-libs throughout each song. It feels fresh and exciting as a long time listener. I wish she'd re-record Fantasy to fit her current voice. The clips online from Fantasy were horrendeous. By far, it was the worst job she's ever made at lip syncing. It was lol worthy and could ruin her legacy if it spreads. While I'd normally say it was unacceptable to lip sync a song during her show, I feel the first upbeat song is ok because it was clear that for the rest of the show that she sang live, and I'd rather have her do that on a fast, upbeat song versus a ballad where you expect to hear her voice and emote. And lastly the other part of me is upset that she performed a show in Jamaica altogether. A huge chunk of Mariah's fan base is gay and its no secret that Jamaica is one of the worst countries in the world to be gay. With their intolerance and violence towards gays, I could only conclude she cares about gays through the extent of them supporting her career and not any other way. By her performing at this festival she endorses their intolerance of gays. Shame on her for once again accepting blood money from nations and/or leaders who are oppressive to their own people. All money is not good money. Maybe one day one of her children will turn out to be gay and then maybe she'll reconsider her position on these kinds of crimes against human rights when it's one of her own kind. (Sunday 1 February 2015; 0:04)

I love Meteorite on MIAM (49,497) by ADAM from USA I second that opinion about Meteorite. Out of all the songs on MIAM, the only song that gets consistently replayed on my devices is Meteorite. When I first heard it I got goosebumps because I loved the direction I thought she was going in. The beat track is so fresh and the lyrics are so uplifting. And it actually sounds like she's inspired by what she's singing. Finally a good song from MC that isn't about love or a broken heart. I felt that song was the only track on MIAM that wasn't like any other song she's ever recorded. On all her CDs after 97's Butterfly, it's so clear which song on every album is trying to replicate. That why nothing is exciting anymore. But Meteorite if it was promoted correctly would have been a smash in the gay clubs and around the world in the dance arenas. I loved what Q-Tip was able to produce and feel he understands music like Mariah does, but unlike her, he's interested in creating a future sound versus repeating one's own success with the same formula over and over again. Does anyone else agree? (Saturday 31 January 2015; 0:39)

My thoughts on MC's new record deal (49,490) by ADAM from USA I enjoyed the latest Billboard article about her new Sony deal. I hope she becomes swayed to create new music that is with new writing and producing partners and fretting her stale sound. While I love something in all of her albums, I can't say that if I wasn't a devoted fan that her music was relevant since '05 album. Some examples for collaborators would be singer/songwriters like Adele, Bruno Mars, Coldplay, Sting, and/or Gaga to name a few. I think Mariah has made the same R&B records with the same urban references that maybe were fresh in 2005 but in 2015 just are past there sell by date. With her voice in its limited range and ability to write songs still, Mariah can still make amazing forward-thinking records about different topics such as divorce, equal rights, racism, babies, etc. She needs another Tommy figure to guide her artistic work in this kind of direction because left to her own device she makes the same monotone records that no one really wants to hear. Mariah has a massive fan base still that remember her growing up in the 90's and I think she could still win back a good majority of support from the public if she is forced to make better decisions. After 25 years of music, the only Mariah songs that radio still plays are the quintessential records from Music Box, Daydream, and occasionally Butterfly. I miss our fav girl from Long Island with the big voice that sounds like honey really singing the songs of our lives. (Friday 30 January 2015; 22:03)

Mariah's performances, response to Edward (49,096) by ADAM from USA I agree with your comments Edward. Before Mariah's voice started to falter and decline around 1999, her performances were always engaging and confident. She moved across the stage a lot and did many vocal acrobatics that reflected her confidence in her voice. Ever since 99, her performances have gradually become more theatrical about the lighting, costumes, diva-isms as almost a substitute to hide behind the fact that her voice is no longer reliable. I miss the light in her eyes and stage presence in her earlier days when she sang. Nowadays she looks so bored performing the same songs in the same arrangements and the songs always feel like every note is such a struggle it hurts to watch her. I hope Vegas will be a hit for her. She has the catalog of songs to put together a great show, I just fear that she will be lampooned for lip syncing because I don't think she will be able to sing all the songs regularly without being caught faking it. Any thoughts on matter? (Saturday 10 January 2015; 4:37)

Mariah's "yes" entourage (49,084) by ADAM from USA I would like to say thanks to Giselle and Amber20 for your recent posts. Your posts took the words out of my mouth. I also wonder why Mariah still seems to keep making the same decisions primarily based on money. Some examples include Virgin Records, American Idol, and now this Vegas gig. If she never produced any music or did any shows she has enough money in the bank to stay afloat comfortably for not only herself but for many generations to come. I don't think she surrounds herself with honest people. Rachel, Jermaine, Trey, Jim Wright, and Debbie Allen are all on her payroll and would never bite the hand that feeds them. They just let her fill her head with these grand delusions that all is well. I'm not saying she isn't responsible for her own choices but the so called friends around her should really be ashamed of themselves for not loving Mariah enough to really tell her the truth. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 1:36)

Wish list for Mariah in Vegas (49,065) by ADAM from USA I'm not a fan of Mariah going to Vegas because I feel a permanent spot performing on the strip will only highlight to non-fans of Mariah's that she does lip sync and has lost a majority of her original singing voice. This will be an embarrassing spectacle for her because we all know she's going to lip sync several entire songs, hire lame Debbie Allen to produce the show and have her friend Rachel choreograph some whack dance moves. As a fan I can accept her shortcomings and still love her but I think this will only tarnish and lampoon her legacy. If I had my way, she would would only lip sync the hardest parts of certain songs and actually perform different material. I'm so tired of her performing the same setlist. She even looks bored performing it that I don't know why she doesn't at least change the arrangements to perform it acoustically like MTV Unplugged or have an entirely different beat. And please don't use Randy Jackson again. His medley for American Idol was horrible and just weird. Beyonce is a good example of someone who makes her old catalog interesting during different arrangements or used for interludes. I wish she'd perform fan favorites and other #1s which get no love like Love Takes Time, I Don't Wanna Cry, Can't Let Go, Butterfly in their entirety. I know it won't happen but on a good note, I'll definetly have a reason to finally go see Vegas and support our girl MC. I can't wait. (Friday 9 January 2015; 16:15)

An apology to Mariah Carey (48,723) by ADAM from USA Mauro, your message was beautiful. I couldn't agree more with your thoughts on MC's career and voice. I am just grateful for the gift of her music and her willingness to still perform and create new music. Even though she doesn't put out music as regularly as we would like anymore, it's still better than most artists of her caliber. I would also like to state as someone who witnessed her live at Beacon last Thursday, MC's voice is still intact. While it's clear it takes much more effort to emote the high notes and sing in full voice, she's still here and sounds great in person. After watching her live again, I felt bad for being one of the many naysayers about her Rockefeller performance and writing off her talent. What my feelings have now evolved into is that I believe any artist should be celebrated for their gifts. That even though Mariah's voice will never be like it was in 93-96, it doesn't make her any less relevant. Why should she not perform anymore or create music? If she is driven to create music and wants to please her legion of fans no matter how big or small, doesn't she has the right? I know I will support her. I love her voice and talent when she was younger and still do as she ages. In closing, everyone ages in all facets of life from athletes to singers to actors but just because there bodies age it doesn't take away from their accolades or God given talent. Thank you Mariah for being you. (Monday 22 December 2014; 15:49)

Beacon Theater December 18th, who's going? (48,505) by ADAM from USA Anyone going to Thursday's show in NYC want to meet up beforehand? Please let me know, it would be nice to meet some new lamvs either native to NYC or visiting from out of town. I'm Adam at NY1coco@gmail. com. (Sunday 14 December 2014; 14:55)

Best manager for MC - Benny Medina (48,463) by ADAM from USA Does anyone else think that Benny Medina was the best manager and mastermind behind the enormous success of TEOM? I think Benny probably left Mariah because she became unmanageable and erratic. The man is very talented and does wonders for JLo. I think if you put personal feelings aside, the magic he's worked for JLo career is amazing. The woman is also visible and is in high regard in the public's mind of someone who is very likable, fashionable, and multi-talented. I think if Mariah reeled in her diva persona and projected more her Long Island-ness, that she would still be likable and forgivable in the masses eyes. I know JLo and Mariah offer 2 distinct talents but I'm referring to the way they are both marketed to the public. During TEOM era, Mariah was tastefully styled by June Ambrose, her performances were on-point and live and her persona was serious. She was still MC but she wasn't this loose cannon that warbles on and on about nonsense and lighting. (Thursday 11 December 2014; 19:14)

Mariah and "the voice" - Oprah's next chapter (48,237) by ADAM from USA I think the backlash Mariah is getting from the media this time around may make her have to address the elephant in the room - her vocal cords. We've been witnessing her vocal deterioration for many years now but I think most of us can agree that this era is the worst its ever been and doesn't seem like its returning. Before she toured this Fall, she hasn't been in the spotlight for several years and had more than enough time to "rest" her voice and it only gets thinner and hoarser. I just wish that more fans would open their eyes and stop using these lame excuses (weather, ear pieces, winter coats, divorce, diet, etc) as coverups for her ailing voice. Has anyone else ever thought that whenever she has a struggling performance she is always fidgeting with her ear monitors? I think the audio is fine, it's just her outwardly projecting her insecurity about her voice but displaying to the audience "look it's not my fault, it's the audios". In closing, I hope all this backlash will make her next big interview have to address the criticism the public has with her live performances. Whitney addressed it with Oprah, maybe Mariah will too. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 22:47)

Mariah at Christmas lighting performance (48,189) by ADAM from USA Wow. That was really rough. Obviously she was experiencing audio issues, because she fell behind the track the entire performance. What I don't understand is why she was out of breath the entire performance as if she ran a marathon and then was asked to sing immediately afterwards? I was rooting for her but even non-lambs in my household were like "that was worse than karaoke". Everyone else tonight sang live normal in the same weather and technical issues MC. So before some fans attack me, let's be fair. I really am confused at the state of her voice nowadays. I think moments like this, where there is no trickery she can use to cover up her mistakes like during concerts or pre-tapping performances or studio re-takes is what her voice really is like - no question. On the bright side, she looked amazing. I love the dress and the hair and accessories in red, and even more so what she wore in black during the rehearsal photos. The photos of her wearing black wit the long coat and dress and glasses reminded me of 'Forever". Very pretty look. In closing, even though my rant is ragging on her vocals, I rather have her sing live in her natural voice and strain hitting those high/long notes vs. lip syncing to a track from 1994. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 2:40)

Mariah singing jazz and unplugged (48,088) by ADAM from USA Thanks Nikki for that video. That was such a great performance. I love how natural and comfortable she is singing jazz. It seems like the perfect compliment to her natural voice and plus it gives her the perfect platform to show off her funny personality. I think she would blow all the haters away with another MTV-like unplugged performance where it's her and acoustics singing her music stripped down with 1 simple outfit and her connection to her fans. (Thursday 27 November 2014; 17:43)

MCIIY review, response to Billy (48,076) by ADAM from USA Billy thanks for your insightful review of MCIIY. It's one of my favorite albums and IMO a lesson for any singer about how to create a sequel to a best selling Christmas album. Lol. First world problems I know. I love the interludes on this album and how as a whole the moods shifts between songs to a final climax. Mariah's mastery of music making has never been better. I would agree with your stance on One Child, her vocals are flawless but I was never a fan of children's choirs, which is probably why I don't like Jesus Born On This Day either. I like your comments about which vocals may have been processed and added in a separate take. I would have never been able to identify that Auld Lyne was chopped up like that. It's such a great song IMO and makes a great festive exit for the listening experience. Her big vocals were meant for for an upbeat dance track, and those whistles at the end, legendary. Lastly, don't you wish that Oh Santa were a bigger hit that what it became? That song is so underrated and IMO as good as AIWFCIY. (Wednesday 26 November 2014; 15:13)

Mariah's lyrical subject matter (48,008) by ADAM from USA Thank you Darryle so much for you post. You've hit the nail on the head on exactly my sentiments for a long time that Mariah should write more songs about subjects others than love. I love her obscure songs like Looking In, Outside, The Wind, Close My Eyes to name a few. I don't think there are enough songs out there in popular music by popular artists that represent anything other than love and lust. When I listen to Make It Happen or There's Got To Be A Way, it gives me chills because I can feel the passion and urgency in her voice and the vivid story telling of her lyrics are so powerful that after many years since its inception, these songs are still resonant enough to get me past hard times in 2014. I really hope she gets inspired again to create these kinds of songs with important messages to help other people and perhaps herself again. (Saturday 22 November 2014; 3:18)

Wendy Williams rejected MC's bid to come on her show last year (47,991) by ADAM from USA Wendy revealed today on Hot Topics today that Mariah wanted to come on her show last year and the deal fell threw because Mariah requested to be filmed on her left side (like WWHL with Andy Cohen) and have Wendy switch seats with her as a result. Wendy said that wasn't happening and that it was her show and that it was just weird. I totally agree with Wendy's stance and support her decision to not oblige to a a silly request. When Mariah came on WWHL the whole vibe was weird and off seeing Andy in a reversed position with Mariah. She looked so foolish checking the monitors and her hair throughout the show. I think more shows should follow her lead and not cater to these foolish demands. It's a TV show. Go on and have fun and enjoy the Q&A with the hosts and fans. I really thought WWHL would have been much more fun if she wasn't so insecure with her behavior and shadiness. I'm a fan but it's crazy to know that she is ruining her legacy with her erratic behavior and drinking. (Friday 21 November 2014; 0:37)

Fans bashing on Nick Cannon (47,952) by ADAM from USA I would agree with some of the fans on here that fans should not take to bashing Nick Cannon because MC is getting divorced. Both of them are adults and made the decision to get married and have children. Mission accomplished. Half of all marriages end in divorce and these 2 people were no different. Why must some fans destroys this guys image because they are no longer married? He's obviously not a monster if MC married him and eventually made him her baby's father. Please fans calm down and focus inward on your own lives. Life is hard enough as it is. Stop spreading the negativity and let these two entertainers move on in their personal and professional lives. At the end of the day, he will always be in her life because of the children they created and they need to get along and not resort to destroying each other's image, otherwise their children will inherit their mother's insecurities and view Nick as a bad father. So IMO, Mariah needs to keep quiet and let "Thristy" be the only public record of her feelings about Nick. (Monday 17 November 2014; 21:58)

Billboard article and Mariah's reconciliation with Walter (47,719) by ADAM from USA I loved the insight into the creation of the album and Walter's comments about Mariah's input and Tommy Mottola's wisdom way back then. We can all agree that Mariah was unhappy with Tommy's control over her, however I think we can all agree in hindsight, that this man was very smart to convince Mariah to record holiday music and choose the songs she did which made her a household name and legend. I think if Tommy wasn't involved and she had total control, the album would have never existed and if it did, we would not have AIWFCIY sounding as retro as it did which is the key to its success. I wish Mariah would get passed her grudges from 1998 and reconcile with Walter. He's said many times that she's wonderful and a great producer, composer, and vocalist. They make magic together and are my favorite producing couple of her entire catalog. I place them even higher than JD and MC. If it were up to me I'd trade "We Belong Together" for any other gem that wasn't released during the Music Box or Daydream era. I also hope that now that MC's has her own family, that she at least sends Tommy some flowers every Christmas for insisting she record holiday music because really although she has millions of records and 18 #1's, her best long-lasting legacy in music will be her contribution to Christmas. Everyone loves Mariah every December no matter if they think she's relevant or not and I think that speaks volumes more than any statistic. (Friday 31 October 2014; 21:23)

MC's NYC Christmas show at Beacon, who wants to go with me? (47,717) by ADAM from USA I'm so excited Mariah's announced she's doing 4 shows at the Beacon Theater for December 15, 16, 18 and 20th. I'm flexible to go to any of these dates so it would be nice to go with another super fan from this message board. Unfortunately none of my friends are as big of fan of hers to want to go with me, so if anyone's planning on already going for any of these dates in NYC, can you email me at NY1COCO@gmail.com and we can coordinate what show your going to and chat beforehand please? Much appreciated. (Friday 31 October 2014; 21:02)

Steve Bartels comments on Elusive Chanteuse (47,471) by ADAM from USA I was thinking about Def Jam CEO Steve's comments about Mariah's poor performance for her latest CD and I think it's a copeout. I believe Mariah created great music that would have resonated with the public had the label given MC a budget to actually make videos and a real campaign to launch Thristy, Meteorite, and YDKWTD as singles. With the amount of exposure JLo got, I believe Mariah would have secured her next #1 song. The sick beats and great upbeat choruses are fire and easy to hear on radio, streaming music, or clubs. Any one of those songs would have been a hit. Yes Mariah lost her range and texture but she knows how to craft a hit in today's market and it's such a shame she will not be able to have another credit to her name especially with such great material. I consider this CD even better than anything on Memoirs or E=MC2. Maybe the re-release will create a hit for this era like Don't Forget About Us did. Any thoughts? (Friday 17 October 2014; 5:43)

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