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Emotions formula (104,376)
by Edward from USA
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Have you been living under a rock? As an old time fan you should know about this performance. I'm hereby stripping you from your lamb status. Now you're just a regular fan. You'll regain you lamb status when you start purchasing and streaming AIWFCIY until it reaches number one again.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 19:56)
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Emotions formula (104,373)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I love "If it's over". One of her best ballads and we know she has so many. But I didn't know this live performance. Wow just wow. Mariah at her best. That's the reason why she's the one and only Mariah Carey.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 19:41)
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Rockin' Around (104,375)
by Edward from USA
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To be honest, I don't even know how RATCT is even competing with AIWFCIY. The latter is way more festive, the former would be like something to play on Christmas Eve. Maybe Mariah and Brenda agree to defrost together next Christmas seaon.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 19:49)
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We lost the #1 (104,369)
by Edward from USA
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Apple Music is bigger than Spotify here in America. While I would agree Spotifiy is bigger worldwide, local streaming is what counts towards the Hot 100. Mariah is ahead of Brenda on Apple Music.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 17:36)
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We lost the #1 (104,365)
by jaker20 from US
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I'm not so sure. Brenda's team have lined up an aggressive campaign this season and in the coming weeks. Spotify is on Brenda's side. Brenda's team is playing bunch of playlist gamifications this year. She's at the top of some of the biggest playlists on Spotify currently. For example, I just saw that they removed Mariah on that large "Christmas Is Coming" playlist with millions of users, and they just added her yesterday lol. That is just one.
Artists can deal with Spotify for higher playlisting and other algo boosts for lower pay royalty. This is perfectly legal by the way. So Mariah can be at the top in all other streaming platforms. But Spotify is where the geming is on. If Mariah does these she would be criticized lol. That's the problem with being at the top.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:39)
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Emotions formula (104,361)
by Edward from USA
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That's what I call a perfectly executed performance. She made it seem so effortless. I used to shove these types of performances in people's faces . Those were the days.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 14:03)
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Emotions formula (104,356)
by Jamie from UK
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Exactly Andrew, such a weak song, no emotion, no soul, no body.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:55)
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We lost the #1 (104,351)
by Edward from USA
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Billboard will publish the new chart on Monday, but tomorrow we'll know for sure. Brenda is ahead on Spotify but Apple Music is bigger on this side of the pond, and Mariah is ahead on that one. Mariah is also bigger in sales. It's kind of weird, when Mariah re-entered the chart at 17, Brenda was just bubbling under the Hot 100, then she re-entered at 8 and Mariah jumped to number 4. Judging by the pattern, Brenda is gathering steam way faster. I guess we lost this one. Congrats to Brenda.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 04:11)
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We lost the #1 (104,350)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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Wow. We certainly did she this happening two weeks ago. If MC had done some special with AIWFCIY this year like a duet with Kelly Clarkson, she would have had nothing to worry about. I wish she would collaborate with other artists like she used to do. The next four weeks are going to be an intense battle for the top spot. And Tyla, water girl just dropped her new song On and On. She could take the streams away too from both songs by New Year's Eve.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 03:45)
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We lost the #1 (104,349)
by Edward from USA
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If that's the case, I'm happy for her. Let's not forget it's a prediction, even though they're usually right. We still have Saturday to count.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 03:26)
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We lost the #1 (104,347)
by Pedro from Brazil
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According to Talk of the Charts, Brenda will be #1.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:52)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,343)
by Edward from USA
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I think Mariah reaches the top next week for such a small margine. Airplay, streaming and sales are all going to blow up from next week forward, it's a tight race, but Mariah is still ahead.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 21:25)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,339)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I understand now. Oh well, it's going to be a victory or a sad day Tuesday.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:47)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,341)
by Edward from USA
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Being triggered is one thing, but basically sabotaging an artist so they won't be number one is a different monster. Brenda's team's making sure she is promoting, she has a new video, she's giving interviews, she's on Tik Tok, she has an EP with different versions of the song. They are just making sure the song has the best chance at hitting the top spot, it's business. Just like Mariah has been doing it for years.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:51)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,337)
by jaker20 from US
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Everyone's jealous. That's all it is. Yes, Mariah's resurgent success has triggered a lot of people, even fans of more current pop girls. Labels, music media, execs, artists, industry people. They are seething. That's how you know that she’s doing something right.
Mariah [has] the best career. Having dominated an era. And then after her peak, comes a classic that will outlast everyone. No one has that combo, not Elvis, not The Beatles, not anyone. That's triggered a lot of people, the media, labels, execs, artists, industry people. Because that pushes her career above and beyond.
I think with her 18th no.1 15 years ago, she got a bit scared about actually beating [The Beatles]. Everyone's coming after her. I think she was unsure if she wanted it. But after AIWFCIY, she actually realized it's very achievable, and if she does the world won't implode. And if she doesn't, someone else will. I think Taylor will attempt it.
But I don't think Mimi cares about her critics anymore. She seems like she's just enjoying all of the icings on the cake.
As for Darlene, I was hoping that they would collab for Christmas BPCH. I was so sure it would be a classic.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:17)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,333)
by Edward from USA
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Robert-Anthony, the music industry doesn't have much control over anything anymore. The music industry as we knew it, it's forever gone. They can't influence streaming platforms to block users from playing the music they like, radio just goes along with what's trending or they stay out of the game. Fans have more control, instead of calling like crazy to request, we just go and stream, everything is way different. As I have stated, these two songs have legs of their own, the one that makes it to number one will be based on its own merit and promotional push on big events. AIWFCIY is a pure number 1, people keep buying it after all these years, they keep playing it and streaming it, no gimmicks. If Mariah really wanted, she could break The Beatles' record, just three great collabs with Drake, Ariana and Taylor Swift should take her there. I don't really care for that record though, the way things are, Taylor will eventually top them both.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 17:48)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,329)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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The music business isn't a sweet easy going industry. Every artist will tell you that including sweet Dolly Parton. Record executives aren't playing nice when they are promoting a song to get it to number #1. There are some underhanded strategies being done behind the scenes to make it happen at the UMG executive offices. If RATCT goes to number #1, a huge television media frenzy will be made about it that week. Just my two cents from Texas.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 14:05)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,328)
by Edward from USA
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I agree it's not a conspiracy. The wig post was a simple joke, chill. Now if she had shown a Christmas decorated nipple, that wouldn't be marketing.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 13:51)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,327)
by The Real Deal from USA
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What in the actual [censored]? It's not a conspiracy. It's called marketing a song that's already popular and trying to get it to #1. The same way Mariah markets AIWFCIY every year is no different then Brenda Lee putting out a music video for her song. Um, didn't MC make 4 videos for AIWFCIY? And whoever wrote the message "now that they slapped a blonde wig on Brenda" - are you serious? Stop trying to make a conspiracy out of everything when there is none.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 13:40)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,325)
by Edward from USA
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I have no idea when or why it happened. There are many other great Christmas songs way better than it. The first time I listened to it was last year because she made it to the second spot. For me it is just a very basic song, that's all. I don't hate it, just don't care for it.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 12:54)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,324)
by Andrew from the UK
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Rockin Around The Christmas Tree is bloody awful. Why it is so popular in the United States is beyond comprehension. But, then, we are talking about a country that sprays cheese out of a can. I'll add it to the list of American Unforgivables.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 11:33)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,320)
by Edward from USA
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Brenda's label just wants to capitalize on the success of the song, Mariah has been doing it since it 2017. While Mariah angered some of these ladies, I don't think there's a conspiracy to block her from reaching the top. Promotion makes a difference but these two songs have legs of their own. I think Brenda will snatch at least one week this Christmas season. She was reading comments from fans, and they were very sweet to her. There was a lamb who stated they would love for her to be number one. Brenda is a sweet lady.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 01:23)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,318)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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Thanks for the update, Edward. Seems like there is a considerable effort this year to keep MC from getting to number one or staying number one for multiple weeks this year. UMG is Brenda Lee's record label. They are really going all out this year with this huge promotional push to celebrate RATCT's 65th anniversary. But why now after 4 years of AIWFCIY being the number one Christmas song?
Well I think I know why. Some people in the music and television industry are tired of hearing MC being called the queen of Christmas. It started when MC wanted to trademark the Queen Of Christmas last year. She angered Darlene Love and Elizabeth Chan. Many in the music and television industry were angered by MC's trademark move as well. So, I feel this is their payback for MC attempting to take the queen of Christmas all for herself and from sweet Darlene Love. Everyone already feels sorrow for her how Phil Spector used her voice and she never was publicly credited on a lot the songs she did for him. Phil Spector controlled her early career and was content to leave her uncredited on the songs he did for him.
Do you think that I have hit on something?
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 00:13)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,315)
by Edward from USA
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According to Talk of the Charts predictions, AIWFCIY will be number one next week, but judging by the numbers, RATCT might top it the week after. As I said, it's going to be an interesting journey for both songs. Maybe they'll alternate at the top, but Brenda would set a record almost impossible to break. Should she hit numbe one, RATCT would be the song with the longest time to get to the top spot, 65. She can have it though. Other than that, Brenda didn't write her song, so she doesn't make money from it really. We definitely need Mariah to dethrone Lil Nas.
(Friday 1 December 2023; 18:28)
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Would you rather (104,308)
by Edward from USA
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I haven't ever heard "Fairy Tale of New York'" on the radio or seen it on the charts here. It is definitely not a threat to AIWFCIY. Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree is definitely a threat now that they threw a red blanket and a blonde wig on Brenda Lee and made a video for RATCT. I would love to see "Last Christmas" become a number one once Mariah has taken back her record for the longest running number one song.
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 21:57)
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Would you rather (104,306)
by Andrew from the UK
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That's very kind of you. She's doing well. It's not her time. I've told her she will know when her time comes because she will see me standing over her with a pillow. She's driving me bloody crazy.
Perhaps pm the subject matter and to loop back around to Mariah: Shane MacGowan of The Pogues has died. "Fairytale of New York" is a supermassive Christmas (especially Christmas Eve) song in the UK and Ireland. I think it's a given now that this will be the Christmas No.1 here with Mariah at No.2, hopefully.
Is "Fairytale of New York" a popular Christmas song in the United States? Does it pose a threat to Mariah there? It's truly brilliant (despite its use of the word "faggot" which should really be taken in context along with a chill pill or two).
I do hope The Pogues get the UK Christmas No.1. And that Shane MacGowan rests in peace.
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 18:47)
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Would you rather (104,304)
by Edward from USA
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Why would Justin record a song with Mariah if he wasn't interested in getting it released? It doesn't make any sense. The song was [not] included on Charmbracelet simply because his label didn't want to. I think they were thinking business.
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 17:24)
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Would you rather (104,300)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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There was a documentary about the nipplegate with Janet Jackson. And Justin didn't go well on the docu. That "Yours" with him as a duet wasn't released because he feared about his "good name" and career says it all. He's the real slim shady. Lol.
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 14:16)
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Would you rather (104,303)
by Edward from USA
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So sorry to hear that about your Mom, Andrew. I hope she's getting better.
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 17:08)
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Would you rather (104,302)
by Andrew from the UK
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I agree with your sentiments: Immortality is a masterpiece and so dear to me. I left it on my mother's pillow when I left for University. She recently had a stroke and I played it on repeat between receiving the news and reaching her. The melody itself and the words "we don't say goodbye" are comforting in those terrifying moments when you think you might finally have to.
Unfortunately the album Immortality was on had a lot of filler and was way too heavy on the schmaltz. Without "My Heart Will Go On" I don't think it would have sold half as well as it did.
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 16:42)
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Quality non-album tracks (104,298)
by Edward from USA
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It is. Here on this board it's Randy's Theme.
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 12:50)
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Quality non-album tracks (104,296)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Isn't Randy's "Right to dream"?
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 05:11)
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Would you rather (104,289)
by Edward from USA
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I think she's talking about Janet's nipple exposure at the Super Bowl and now Britney's revelation about her having an abortion when they were dating. I would like to hear the song though.
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 00:40)
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Would you rather (104,286)
by Andrew from the UK
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What's Justin Timberlake done that is "shady"? And only to women? To which women?
(Wednesday 29 November 2023; 22:54)
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Would you rather (104,288)
by Edward from USA
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What a coincidence, streamed a couple of documentaries on The Bee Gees last week. I didn't know Celine's Immortality, a very special song to me, had originally been written and sung by them. Andy stated they thought Immortality was the best song they had ever written. Sadly, Mariah lost confidence in her solo pen game a long time ago.
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 00:35)
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Would you rather (104,285)
by Andrew from the UK
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I recently streamed a documentary on the Bee Gees and Andy Gibb. If you haven't seen it, I do recommended it - it's quite extraordinary.
One notable thing from it was the retelling of Barry Gibb's move into composing for other artists once the group's career had begun to wind down. He has surprisingly written many very well known and recognisable songs for other world famous artists. Mariah ought to have done this a long time ago. She may still yet have time.
In terms of her own releases, a duets album is preferential to a standard studio album that will chart one week only to disappear the next.
I don't know about you, but I am already over All I Want For Christmas Is You.
(Wednesday 29 November 2023; 22:41)
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Quality non-album tracks (104,278)
by Edward from USA
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Randy's Theme, Help Me Make It and Almost Home are three quality singles that should definitely be on The Rarities 2.
(Wednesday 29 November 2023; 19:58)
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by Edward from USA
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AIWFCIY jumps from 17 to 4. Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree reenters at No 8. I thinks it's happening again like last year, AIWFCIY will top the charts next week.
(Tuesday 28 November 2023; 12:52)
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Charts (104,226)
by Edward from USA
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It re-entered the Hot 100 at No 17. Only three other Christmas songs re-entered the the chart this week, but AIWFCY is ahead of all of them. We can expect a high jump to the top five next week and the rest would be a fight to death, but I think, at least, it'll snatch a couple of weeks this season.
(Sunday 26 November 2023; 04:08)
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Charts (104,224)
by Tameka walker from United states
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Where is [All I want for Christmas is you] on the charts and what is the likelihood that it hits number one?
(Sunday 26 November 2023; 03:14)
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Happy Thanksgiving (104,190)
by Edward from USA
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Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. For those who celebrate it, I hope you have a wonderful time. Be careful with the carbs.
(Thursday 23 November 2023; 22:41)
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Stiffness (104,189)
by Edward from USA
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I'm entitled to say it. Yes, we, the alphabet people, can be overly sensitive and dramatic about simple shit. I didn't think about it, I didn't disguise it, I didn't imply it, I simply said it. It's not microaggression, it's me exercising my right to say whatever I want. The fact you had to reply to it just proves my effing point.
And just in case you want to come with the "shut up white straight man", I'm neither white nor straight, not that there's anything wrong with that either. So, whenever I want, I'll say what's in my mind about our loving and inclusive community.
(Thursday 23 November 2023; 22:35)
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Stiffness (104,188)
by jaker20 from US
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Over-sensitive alphabet people? Why bring unnecessarily shady and passive aggressiveness here. This is now the 3rd time I've read these microaggressions in a few weeks and it's just so sickening. I'll leave it to the mod if you want to post this reply but for a fanbase that's heavy on LGBTQs this sure is lacking tolerance.
(Thursday 23 November 2023; 22:29)
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Stiffness (104,186)
by Edward from USA
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Mariah mounts herself on heels so high not even the most experienced Drag Queen could walk on them. Not implying Sam Smith is a Drag Queen, just in case one of the over sensitive alphabet people might want to start a cat fight, but he seems to to be very careful when walking on those platforms he mounts himself on.
Another thing, after her accident while filming the video for "#Beautiful", she's definitely being more careful.
(Thursday 23 November 2023; 21:50)
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