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About Bobby A from United States:
I have been a Lamb since 1990. I know Mariah. I love her music. I breathe her music.
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New album (109,714)
by Bobby A from United States
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I am trying to understand, but I just feel like something is off this month with the rollout of the album. I don't like this waiting game. Maybe a joint tour announcement with unlikely male pop artist would generate more buzz for MC16 and increase MC's streams.
(Sunday 13 July 2025; 16:31)
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New album (109,708)
by Edward from USA
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Bobby A, Mariah is a legacy artist, just like many others were when she was on her prime. MC16 will probably come and go like "Caution" did. No matter how many appearances she makes, it won't make much of a difference. To be fair, she was promoting consistently when TD came out and, lipped or not, she put on a great and energetic performance at Summertime Ball in the UK. Other than her legacy fans, meaning us, nobody is out there craving new music from her. Her streaming numbers are an indication of what's going on, 2.5M in a month after a 7-year hiatus. As I stated before, unless she comes out with a banger featuring a big name like Bruno Mars, Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Ariana Grande, Sabrina Carpenter or Taylor Swift, don't expect chart success. Always remember though that chart success does not necessarily a great album make. Enjoy the music. Winter is coming.
(Sunday 13 July 2025; 07:36)
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New album (109,704)
by Bobby A from United States
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I think after TD didn't perform like MC and Gamma had hoped they are trying to regroup and come up with another plan to launch the album. August is almost here and it will be September 1st before we know it and it seems promos have stalled waiting for TD to become Touch My Body in 2025. I analyzed album roll out plans and promos for several artists who have albums coming out in August with a definite release date and most have been on various TV programs promoting their new albums. I think Gamma is going about rolling out MC16 all wrong. I hope with the 2nd single rollout that MC is on as many TV programs that she can make an appearance on and start promoting her new album. Just my two cents this weekend.
(Sunday 13 July 2025; 03:14)
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New album (109,703)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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The new album is supposed to be a summery sound, well July is almost over I wonder what the roll out plan is and I was thinking I really hope the new album and what we heard about it turns out to be like E=MC2. I've been playing the album and it's still so fresh and experimental. Almost every song had single potential. I was also re-listening to For the Record and indeed what a record only MC has a legacy worth referencing in her own song. I absolutely love her doing the part where she word plays her own song titles, how I wish we had a music video of the song with her recreating her famous MV scenes from the songs mentioned. Anyway I'm rambling but yes I'm hoping for an album like that. It's peak summer vibes with songs like TMB, Cruise Control, IBLULT, FTR, Migrate, ITC. Even has the cheesy Love Story and Last Kiss which I know people hate on but I love it.
(Saturday 12 July 2025; 23:55)
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Unpopular opinion - alternate universe (109,691)
by Bobby A from United States
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We all just want the album title and release date at this point. It seems there is not much excitement for the TD remixes. While MC and Gamma seem to be waiting on the stars to align and a Buck Rogers in the 25th Century tv series reboot, Ciara gave a brillant performance and interview on the Today show yesterday in support of her upcoming CiCi album dropping on August 22nd. Craig David and JoJo dropped their beautiful duet yesterday in support of his Committment album dropping on August 8th. MC and Gamma have got to step up and get this MC16 ball rolling before Sabrina Carpenter drops her next single in support of her Man's Best Friend album dropping August 29th.
(Saturday 12 July 2025; 13:57)
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Unpopular opinion - alternate universe (109,689)
by Edward from USA
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Welcome to the Twilight Zone, my dear. You've just stepped into the alternate-twin-universe version of the MCArchives Messageboard, where logic takes naps, reason time-travels, fetch did happen, Mariah made up the word emblazoned and the webmaster might actually be your cat. Be careful, things are not what they seem in here.
(Saturday 12 July 2025; 04:50)
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TD remixes (109,684)
by Bobby A from United States
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Not much of resung vocals and new lyrics for the new remixes. The Brazil Funk is the best one. I like that MC sampled Obsessed. Anyway, bring on the 2nd single and MC16. MC has a lot of new album competition each Friday in August from Renee Rapp, Craig David, Good Charlotte, Machine Gun Kelly, The Black Keys, Maroon 5, Conan Gray, Lainey Wilson, Ciara, Mariah The Scientist, Zach Top, and Sabrina Carpenter.
(Friday 11 July 2025; 09:03)
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TD remixes (109,677)
by Haiji from United States
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Hopefully these remixes are worth it. When TD first dropped, I wanted 2 main remixes, one with Cardi and one with Rakim and I still want those, but in my head I pictured an all-star remix like Busta's Touch It Remix, so I'm hoping for the same with the God's Remix. Once that drops, other rappers should join and make it a Tiktok challenge. I'm not sure why her or the label thought we needed a Big Sean remix though. I'd rather have Bryson Tiller instead. The DJ Snake remix sounds like it could be a club mix and the Brazil Remix could be a spanglish mix ala #Beautiful/Hermosa Remix. Hopefully all or most of these remixes are re-sung and re-worked versions and not a copy and paste situation.
(Thursday 10 July 2025; 18:50)
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Justin Beiber (109,679)
by Bobby A from United States
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I wish MC would just drop MC16 like Justin Beiber is doing tomorrow with his 7th studio album, Swag. No singles. No promo. Just dropping his album with some buzzing high profile features and a Billboard announcement in Iceland today. That is the way you do it after a long absence. Swag will probably be what everyone is talking about tomorrow. It looks like there won't be any physical copies right away. I know I am curious now what he says on Swag. Could MC drop her album out of nowhere and be successful?
(Thursday 10 July 2025; 22:30)
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Unpopular opinions (109,669)
by Bobby A from United States
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1. I wanted JD to stay MC's manager longer than he did. 2. MC should have done a complete country soundtrack for the movie Tenneseee. I wanted more songs with Willie Nelson and other country artists. 3. Melt Away should have been a single. A viral moment on Tiktok and vinyl release like It's A Wrap would have been nice in 2024. 4. A No No should have been the lead single for Caution. 5. Cool On You should have made the final tracklist for E=MC2. 6. I love Bryan-Michael Cox's collaborations with MC alone. 4 Real 4 Real and For The Record are their best collaborations. 7. If this summery second single doesn't become a bigger Hot 100 hit, MC16's overall success is going to be very low. I don't know what plan Gamma has for the 2nd single's release, but I am starting to worry now since TD is fading fast in a lot of people's minds.
(Thursday 10 July 2025; 15:33)
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Unpopular opinions (109,666)
by Lighty from China
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1. Mariah should've blamed Tommy more than JLo for the Firecracker sample incident. 2. How Much should've been the third single from Rainbow. 3. The diva persona is cute but overplayed and got more and more annoying over the years. 4. GTFO is the best song from Caution. 5. Type Dangerous is a boring song and the extravagant music video is a waste of money. 6. Heartbreaker (not including the Dessert Storm remix) is a far inferior song to any of the previous lead singles. 7. When Hero was considered Mariah's signature song I never really get it. Now as I've grown old I can sometimes relate to the lyrics. 8. Acting is never Mariah's thing. Even her performance in Precious is just average. WiseGirls is better. 9. Nicki is the better judge on American Idol. Mariah's comments are sometimes like saying nothing at all. 10. I'm not really optimistic about MC16 and the singles, chart-wise.
(Thursday 10 July 2025; 12:31)
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Fantasy vs. Honey (109,638)
by Bobby A from United States
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Thank you, Eric. I guess I need to put my phone down until Friday.
(Saturday 5 July 2025; 22:40)
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Fantasy vs. Honey (109,636)
by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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According to Wikipedia, Fantasy was a much bigger hit. It is certified 6x Platinum, while Honey is only certified 2x Platinum. Also sales in other countries were much much higher for Fantasy.
(Saturday 5 July 2025; 19:26)
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Fantasy vs. Honey (109,635)
by Bobby A from United States
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Which one was a bigger radio and sales hit? I ask the question because I feel Fantasy was because it was the first time a sample made an original song like Genius of Love popular among younger listeners in 1995. Secondly, Nostradomus on X posted today that the second single is a pop/club combination with traces of hip hop and funk. Isn't that what Fantasy was for Daydream?
(Saturday 5 July 2025; 19:14)
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A few more possible albums titles (109,621)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC meant it when she said it too.
(Saturday 5 July 2025; 03:36)
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A few more possible albums titles (109,618)
by Haiji from United States
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Rumor has it that the album title will be: Ima Do the Best I Can With What I Got.
(Saturday 5 July 2025; 02:57)
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A few more possible albums titles (109,616)
by Bobby A from United States
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Stop it, Randy. I love your creativity. I think that I have figured out the album title. The album title will be the title of the second single. All of the signs are pointing to that one key phrase MC made during the Apple interview for the hint. MC said, "I don't want to reveal the whole thing." Butterfly was the second single from the Butterfly album. A summer album release with a summery song needs a summery album title. Okay, I am thinking too hard. Lol.
(Saturday 5 July 2025; 00:37)
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A few more possible albums titles (109,615)
by Randy from USA
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I'm a Horrible Piano Player. Mic Unplugged. I'm a Songwriter. Dangerous Lighting. I'm a Melodically Driven Individual. The Collaborations of Mimi. Glitz. It's All About The Ensemble. E=MC to Infinity. I Needed 8 Hours of Sleep To Make This Album. Me. I Am Mariah. But Trey & Mary Ann Are Out Shouting Me. Butterfly Ring. Ok I'll stop. Wait, how bout The Emancipation of my Bad Side? No?
(Friday 4 July 2025; 22:31)
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Heavy songs (109,613)
by Bobby A from United States
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I know Edward. I can't wait any longer though. I want all of the album details next Friday. Anyway, I have been a bad boy lately so got to continue my sinful streak this month. Lol.
(Friday 4 July 2025; 17:38)
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Heavy songs (109,611)
by Edward from USA
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Bobby A, holding up on revealing the album title actually builds anticipation. TD is pretty much a thing of the past now. The info we got was more than enough: the album's finished, it'll have 11-12 tracks, a new summery single is coming soon and we're getting at least one big ballad. Remember that gluttony and greed are two of the seven deadly sins.
(Friday 4 July 2025; 16:54)
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New single soon (109,606)
by Bobby A from United States
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Miguel was riding high at the time because of his hit song Adorn. I believe they were hoping to create a song similar to Adorn, but it didn't happen that way with Miguel bringing his unfinished song to the recording studio. #Beautiful made it all way to #15 back then because of radio airplay.
(Friday 4 July 2025; 15:53)
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New single soon (109,598)
by Jamie from UK
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I never really got #Beautiful. I was disappointed when it was released, I didn't get the hype around it. Whilst I don't dislike it it's not a song I go to.
(Friday 4 July 2025; 09:09)
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Heavy songs (109,605)
by Bobby A from United States
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Getting the album title from MC is where Nate and Ebro failed during the Apple interview. I don't understand why she just didn't reveal the title during the interview. It is not like another artist is going to steal the title for their new album. I feel it is going to be a one or two word title that she has titled her most her successful albums. Plus, I feel L.A. Reid and Larry Jackson has some new music industry tricks up their sleeves if MC just plays her cards right and listens to both men. I believe she is listening this time. The Grammy and Rock and Hall of Fame stakes are higher because she wants them take to notice of her work in 2026.
(Friday 4 July 2025; 15:47)
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Heavy songs (109,602)
by Randy from USA
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Jaker20, I think Portrait on Caution is heavy so she'll do at least one. Languishing from Memoirs is heavy. Most of yall hate it but Memoirs to me is the closest follow up to Butterfly. I remember Mariah saying in the promos for Glitter, I'll never abandon my ballads they are a part of me. We will get something heavy on the new album. Any word on an album title yet? Dangerous? No MJ did that. Overhead Lighting? Anniversaries? Hey, it's one word. Beauty School Drop Out? The Reinterpretation of Mimi? How about, The Mimi Theorem, a2 + b2 = c2? Maybe, Mariah Nunez? Me. I'm Still Mariah. The Songbird Supreme. Ok ok I'll stop,
(Friday 4 July 2025; 14:15)
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New single soon (109,596)
by Bobby A from United States
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I am so ready. I want the second single to be a jam that has a strong melody, a hook, two verses and bridge.
(Friday 4 July 2025; 05:01)
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New single soon (109,589)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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How's everyone feeling about getting another new song in the coming weeks? There's rumours it might be next Friday. I can't believe we went from 0 new Mariah songs to 2 in such a short span. She said the song will be "Summery" I wonder what that means? Are we talking #B, IBLYLT, TMB style? If so I'm pumped I would love to blast Mariah all summer. This also means we'll get a new video soon. I'm sad we never got a cool remix for T Dang but honestly it's a good song and I'm still playing it. My husband keeps repeating "I don't have time for the rigamarole" hahah. I hope for the next single we have the video ready in advance and possibly a remix and some more radio deals like T Dang. We also need some clever promo like I mentioned before. She focused too much on just radio shows this time, we need more diversified promo and fun skits.
(Friday 4 July 2025; 01:03)
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No slapping anything on the album (109,588)
by Bobby A from United States
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Yes, no covers this time. Type Dangerous should not be the album opener. I believe MC16 is going to be something special with 11-12 songs. Daydream was an instant fan favorite and a mega success for MC because of it. Plus, I believe a 11-12 song album is a part of a marketing strategy for increasing streaming and pure album sales for the first week of sales. Anyway, I guess this time next Thursday we will hopefully get the 2nd single.
(Friday 4 July 2025; 00:54)
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No slapping anything on the album (109,587)
by Randy from USA
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No. No. No. No. No. We are not slapping covers on the end. That's how we ended up with One More Try at the end of insufferably long MIAMTEC. That's the brilliance of Caution. It's short. I hate The Distance, 8th Grade, One More Gen and Giving Me Life. I have a feeling any more songs woulda dragged the album. And woulda been another title/concept from slang. Charmbracelet MCIIYou and MIAMTEC are my least favorite MC albums. I feel like pruning could've helped all of them.
(Thursday 3 July 2025; 18:19)
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Article: Mariah Carey confirms her new album is finished (109,574)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC was probably thinking about Circles, I Wish You Knew, Mine Again, Angels Cry, Languishing, Cry, Camouflage, and Portrait type of ballads when she responded to Zane and Ebro.
(Thursday 3 July 2025; 02:07)
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Article: Mariah Carey confirms her new album is finished (109,570)
by Max from Germany
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I'm just curious what Mariah ballads mean. Ballads before WBT or WBT clones?
(Wednesday 2 July 2025; 18:55)
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Apple interview (109,561)
by Bobby A from United States
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I think Gamma and Apple have linked up for an album sales strategy that we have never seen done before. Maybe a deluxe edition will only be a iTunes version. Also, someone said on X that the Japanese version always has one extra track.
(Tuesday 1 July 2025; 17:28)
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Apple interview (109,556)
by Lighty from China
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Maybe save some songs for a potential MC16 deluxe version?
(Tuesday 1 July 2025; 10:18)
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One Heart, One Voice (109,560)
by Bobby A from United States
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We are family. Sometimes we may not agree with another board member's opinions or comments. We all care about MC and her career. Let's get ready to experience the new era and get MC back on top. The unveiling of the album title and second single is going to be huge in the coming weeks. The anticipation is higher than any Mariah Carey album ever before. Let's put our differences aside and get ready for this era.
(Tuesday 1 July 2025; 17:23)
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One Heart, One Voice (109,552)
by Lambi from USA
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That is funny. I pressed you on this before but you ran away and hibernated. Let me recap what you said, verbatim: "Mariah's voice being damaged beyond repair to the point that a number of us unprofessionals on this board can probably sing 'Hero' better than she can and with no lipping."
"A number of us" so you've appointed yourself a part of some imaginary choir of amateurs who can outsing one of the most technically revered vocalists in music history. Tremendously bold claim. Since you said this your chest, you at least must be a willing representative of the group to back it up, right?
So let's just hear it. Debunk my insinuation that you're out of touch. If you're confident enough to dismiss quite literally the greatest vocalist of all time, a quick vocal clip should be a walk in the park. Or are you just going to go on hibernation again?
(Tuesday 1 July 2025; 06:23)
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Apple interview (109,553)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC16 is done. MC16 will have 11-12 songs. There are Mariah ballads. The second single is coming soon. It is very summery and MC loves the beat. I am not complaining, but why just 11-12 songs? Is that an industry standard these days to increase the chances of individual songs streamed to increase album sales? 
(Tuesday 1 July 2025; 06:59)
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Lullaby of Birdland* (109,546)
by Bobby A from United States
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I think Hope Street became Somewhat Loved with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis.
(Monday 30 June 2025; 17:12)
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Lullaby of Birdland* (109,545)
by Lighty from China
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Yeah me too. I'm forever waiting for her to release Hope Street.
(Monday 30 June 2025; 16:52)
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Lullaby of Birdland* (109,542)
by Bobby A from United States
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It must be his weekend splashes. Lol. We all want MC16 now. The world wants MC16 to be released now. Nostradamus posted on X that MC16 is coming soon after a double promo second single to enhance TD while L.A. Reid monitors the market for MC16's release date.
(Monday 30 June 2025; 10:57)
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Lullaby of Birdland* (109,539)
by Lighty from China
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Actually there was. Even Save the Day was on there.
[Webmaster: The funny part is that Edward himself commented several times on this tracklisting.]
(Monday 30 June 2025; 03:10)
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Three voices, one problem (109,537)
by Bobby A from United States
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Most of the board members are really disappointed in the song. I am disappointed in it too after multiple listens. It grabbed at my heart on Friday, but today I find it boring. I believe MC16 is going to blow our minds. If the producers on Usher's Coming Home is our L.A. Reid blueprint, then we can be hopeful for production by Mel and Mus, Ghost-Kid, D'Mile, Jermaine Dupri, along with MC's usual go to "hot producers at the moment" strategy like Bizness Boi, Jack Antonoff, Jeff Gitelman, Julian Bunetta and London Da The Track. I am pretty sure Donald Lawrence produced the Clark Sisters duet. I know Anderson .Paak brought his A game on MC16. So, we should not be worried at all by what to expect on MC16. It is going to be bigger than Caution and MIAM for sure.
(Monday 30 June 2025; 01:21)
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Three voices, one problem (109,533)
by Edward from USA
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Lyrics got written, music was produced and then a demo was made. Barbra most likely recorded the entire song by herself. Then, the parts that Ariana and Mariah were meant to sing were stripped from the demo and sent for them to fill in the blanks. Of course the original demo was also sent to use as reference. Then, Walter later stitched it all together.
So no, these ladies were never in the studio at the same time. It's pretty standard these days and even easier with technology. Mariah prefers laying her vocals alone with her recording engineer. Ariana lays her vocals in a completely dark booth.
Could this be considered as a Mariah and Walter collabo? No, in my humble opinion. In 99% of their collabos, Mariah wrote the lyrics and had the melody in her head, then Walter would put that melody into music and produced it.
(Sunday 29 June 2025; 21:19)
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Three voices, one problem (109,517)
by Bobby A from United States
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I hope MC16 brings this year full circle for MC. If I was a part of her team deciding MC16's rollout, I would say this at the meeting.
1. Release two singles at the same time with videos ready to go on their release day. One should be an uptempo jam and the other should be the Clark Sisters' gospel song. August 8th. Drop the uptempo remix with Cardi B on August 15th with a video. 2. Announce that MC16 will drop in 30 days. September 12th. Sell 7" versions of the new singles on her website along with album variations and special bundles with fan surprises. 3. Give interviews and performances on the morning news and late night talk shows during the 30-day promotional period. Do radio station drop ins in New York, Chicago, Atlanta, Los Angeles, and Nashville. Give Rolling Stone, Billboard and Ryan Seacreast interviews. 4. Drop MC16 on the same day as Ed Sheeran's new album on September 12th. Give him some competition on that day. Be the closing artist for the summer concert series on the Today Show or Good Morning America on September 12th. 4. Be ready to perform the two new singles during her iHeart Music Festival performance. 5. Perform on SNL's fall season premiere episode. 6. Announce a world tour for 2026.
(Saturday 28 June 2025; 14:27)
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by Lee from UK
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Considering this song is highly reminiscent of 90s adult contemporary music, I was expecting more. There was definitely room here for "All I Ever Wanted" style vocals from all of them. Mariah held back to her own detriment. It feels like these three were never in the same studio. It's like they all recorded their individual parts from their home studios and then emailed them to Walter A to sew together. If these three could have gotten together and arranged their vocals with each other, this could have become something special. It just feels very bland unfortunately.
(Saturday 28 June 2025; 09:25)
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One Heart, One Voice (109,502)
by Bobby A from United States
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It definitely will not be on MC16 because it doesn't have enough of today's musical style and appeal to be a radio hit. I am just waiting for MC to make the announcement when MC16 is dropping. Do you think we are less than 60 days away from the announcement?
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One Heart, One Voice (109,495)
by Randy from USA
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I don't like it. Here's the thing. I knew it would be a ballad from the 90s. I knew it would feel "crowded". And I do think it's genius how he interchanged them throughout the verses. I am a Mariah Carey fan and what's most important to me is a lyric. Then the vocal. Then the arrangement. The lyrics are both banal and generic. It's not a song that needed to be written. It's been written before. I feel as though this is one of the songs sung before a Super Bowl national anthem with young girls from around the world tryna count steps with lame choreography. It belongs at the end of a really bad movie where the credits are more entertaining than the plot. My favorite person on this board woke me up out my sleep with a text for this? It's just Another Trite Hope Song rackin my brain like crazy.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 16:40)
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Barbra's song (109,490)
by Bobby A from United States
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Wow. It is really beautiful to hear their voices together. I am very hopeful now that Walter A. and MC have collaborated on MC16. I sure hope L.A. Reid mentioned it to MC.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 11:56)
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Barbra's song (109,489)
by Stacey from USA
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Agree. I was hoping for a whistle note going into the final chorus, sort of a cherry on top. Of course we are going to want MC to shine a bit more. However, MC fans need to recognize this is Barbara's [sic] song ft MC and AG. She is a guest artist. I like the song, its message. It's definitely a throw back to the early 90s for Mariah. Beautiful voices.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 10:11)
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