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MC back in the studio (110,819)
by Shezz from Pk
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Bobby A. rumor has it she's adding songs for the deluxe version with some remixes possibly including a Sza collaboration based on the love she's been showing MC on social media with heavy hints.
I wish a Sza collaboration could've made the original album. Better late than never but I just hope it's not dropped if HFIA doesn't perform as well as she wanted it to initially.
(Saturday 30 August 2025; 05:48)
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MC back in the studio (110,810)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC posted an Instagram picture - "Back at it."
(Friday 29 August 2025; 23:52)
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One long month (110,777)
by Shezz from Pk
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Definitely started the era one month too early. I think a lot has to do with all the international randomly scattered tour dates that are not even for the album. She probably signed on to them much before she knew her album would be ready this year. It is what it is. Some other artists have even longer spans. Sabrina Carpenter's 2 month time is perfect. She didn't even have to put out another single.
(Thursday 28 August 2025; 17:31)
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One long month (110,772)
by Jamie from UK
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I'm sat here thinking it's not even September yet and the album isn't out for another 28 days. It seems to be dragging and definitely seems too far away now. I hoping there is gonna be something in between now and the 26th to keep the momentum going. I'm a Mariah fan and even I'm starting to loose interest in this dragged out process.
(Thursday 28 August 2025; 15:56)
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Article: Mariah Carey unveils "Here for It All" track list (110,769)
by Shezz from Pk
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I "really really" hope the album version is just her. It would be like having another new unheard song to listen to on the album. Problem is, when she was releasing the track titles in her story one by one, it clearly said Sugar Sweet featuring Shensea and Kehlani. I suppose we need to wait a month to know but I wouldn't put it past team MC to have messed up and missed them out. I'm hoping they messed up in the stories and not the tracklist post. Billboard is just reporting what they saw posted I think.
(Thursday 28 August 2025; 13:49)
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Article: Mariah Carey unveils "Here for It All" track list (110,756)
by Edward from USA
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And that doesn't seem to be a mistake since the Billboard article clearly mentions only two collabos. I think Mariah released the remix first. Interesting.
(Thursday 28 August 2025; 02:59)
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Here For It All (110,711)
by Shezz from Pk
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Haha if it's Roger F, he's really doing a great job at masking his dislike for MC. Nostradamous seems to love her. I've seen the few leaked track names and now the whole tracklisting floating around on UKmix. I don't post there but it's a good place to get more info on MC. I recognized Mimi L there.
(Tuesday 26 August 2025; 10:55)
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Here For It All (110,703)
by Bobby A from United States
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I agree with you Shezz, especially after Nostradamus' two posts yesterday. His descriptions of the two songs led me to match them up to two song titles that have been posted on online along with Jesus I Do and Here For It All. I won't say them here because I want you to be surprised when the tracklist is released. Nostradamus posted the description of the two songs like he was sent the album because he is a journalist. I am starting to think Nostradamus on X is really Roger Friedman from Showbiz 411.
(Monday 25 August 2025; 19:32)
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Here For It All (110,699)
by Shezz from Pk
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Bobby A, in a way I'm glad those two are the radio/TikTok friendly songs which means the rest of the album is less "trendy" and trying to capture the younger audience and is more mature. Over the last few albums, her deep/album cuts have always been superior to the singles. I loved "Giving me life", "8th grade", "Caution" and "One mo gen" from Caution. I'm looking forward to the 70s inspired Anderson .Paak song, Paul McCartney cover, Clark Sisters song and HFIA. I'm sure there'll be a lot of good songs. At this point I hope lambs stop stressing about chart success for her singles. Even if she were to release "Heartbreaker" today, she'd barely chart. I'm just happy she's finally putting something out that she enjoyed making and is proud of (despite what her demeanor says). Nostradamous says one song is very reminiscent of "Through the rain" - though I really doubt they've listened to any songs yet themselves. I hope the VMAs performance is well produced and executed. Apparently right after, she'll head to Brazil early to shoot a video and a press tour. May God give her the energy to pull off all the promotion well everywhere. She'll have lots to do in the US when she's back. Personally, I don't think she's disinterested in the project at all, it's just her physical and psychological state that she can't control.
(Monday 25 August 2025; 14:27)
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Here For It All (110,692)
by Bobby A from United States
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Journalist Stevie Musicfeelings posted on X that he has listened to HIFA. He said the the album is "quite different from Caution, a bit more soulful and even gospel-like towards the end. Stevie said, "Above all, the two singles are pretty well chosen in my opinion. They're the most radio friendly." The last part of his comment has caused some Lambs to have some concern for any HIFA future singles' performance on the charts. He said that he will give more individual song feedback once MC releases the tracklist. Do you think he's saying that the two chosen were singles for a reason or that the two are the only two radio friendly songs on the album?
(Sunday 24 August 2025; 20:18)
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Back to chart obsession (110,536)
by Shezz from Pk
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I definitely agree that this era was launched a month too early. I think 2 months prior was more than enough or she should have dropped the album in August but I suppose it wasn't ready to be able to do that. Though other artists are taking even longer to drop albums after releasing singles, like Jade and Ed Sheeran. I also think it was bad planning. She was stuck with global touring dates she had committed to prior. Like why is the Celebration of Mimi tour going sporadically until the end of the year when she has a brand new album coming out?
Feels like she's stuck between being a current pop artist and a legacy artist and she's trying to balance both.
Also, she needs to realize that singles aimed to draw in the younger audience won't fly. Release a ballad if you believe in it. They will both perform the same.
Rumours are that LA Reid has secured her a ten minute performance at the VMAs. It'll probably be akin to her Billboard icon performance with TD and SS in the mix.
Imagine if she premiered Here For It All there with just the piano (I am not even expecting her to live sing it because God knows she wont even attempt those vocals live).
I found the clip a bit screechy at first but it has really grown on me. Finally some deeper stronger lyrics. The lyrics make me wonder if she wrote them for Roc and Roe. Or even herself.
I think there will be some solid songs on the album that'll make us scratch our heads even though I really like TD and SS.
(Sunday 17 August 2025; 07:42)
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Back to chart obsession (110,532)
by Randy from USA
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Jaker for once we agree. People will love a song and then when it doesn't do well, it was a bad single choice. Mariah does it too. One of my favorite songs is Through The Rain and Mariah has bad talked that. Although during the promotional tour, she said it was an anthem. The same with Bye Bye, which I love. Mariah talks about how that was a bad single choice, but she promoted it everywhere. No one knows whether a song will be a hit because if they did, everyone would have number ones. I knew the first time I heard Type: Dangerous and Sugar Sweet they weren't hits. Cool songs. Not hits. Can I bring Adele up for the fifty million time? Why does only Adele understand that a heartfelt ballad as a lead single will go to number one because it reaches across generations and music delivery formats? I was disgusted to watch Hello make 25 go diamond and Easy on Me make 30 sell in the middle of a worldwide pandemic, and for as much as I love those two songs, I'm sitting by thinking, Mariah does ballads better than anyone. And yet she keeps churning out modern r&b. Final thought and it's still a repeat. I don't know what Mariah or Gamma thought releasing these songs so early on an album so short. Was there a plan B if the songs didn't work? Type Dangerous shoulda came out the last week of July and Sugar Sweet shoulda came out the last week of August for a September 26 release. But quiet as it's kept, I kinda think Cardi B is gonna struggle. The music audience is fickle. We will see. That's all.
(Sunday 17 August 2025; 01:10)
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Here For It All... so far (110,386)
by Shezz from Pk
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So in one of the interviews she just said she will be performing 4 songs from HFIA at Sandringham. Bobby A I'm sure you caught that. I hope one of them is the title track which she said has gospel and jazz tangents. If the leaked song titles are to be believed, she wrote that with Daniel Moore. Very unlike her to perform unreleased songs at a concert, that even a festival kind.
While it's taken me a while to get used to her 2025 interview energy, some of them haven't been all that bad. Excited for Alan Carr on Monday. I do hope she starts talking about the album soon, I understand she doesn't want to reveal too much about it this early but then why do all these album interviews. I suppose they're more for her to tell the gp she's doing non Christmas music and she'll probably do more in depth music ones at the time of release like that Genius one she did with Caution.
I love how she was discussing her "defrosting" with an interviewer with such a straight face.
While I did like TD and SS, they're certainly not up there with her more iconic singles from the 2000s. According to insiders, SS remixes are coming soon. Will be interesting if that's true. I'm glad TD is having some success on certain charts. Both the singles, though not MC singles strong, are definitely top 40 worthy for today's music.
I do hope there are a good amount of songs with more mature and meaningful lyrics on the album. SS is a reinterpretation of Honey of sorts, at least a similar subject matter but Honey was written with so much more sophistication.
I have made peace with her 2025 voice but she has full control over her penmanship still.
I understand that she is still chasing success and numbers and that's why she released these singles hoping to grab the attention of the younger audience that drives the streaming based charts now but I really do hope she has more.
Kudos for all the radio interview efforts - time for some podcasts and tv appearances.
(Saturday 9 August 2025; 05:53)
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Sugar Sweet video clip (110,246)
by Shezz from Pk
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Jamie, I don't think that's a clip for the official video. It's another home video clip for TikTok/promotion like she did for TD as well. She looks good, yes the editing is off. She looks so beautiful when she smiles, needs to do that more than these serious expressions that read more lost than sexy. Looking forward to seeing how she performs SS in Brighton. She's going to bring the energy again like the Capital ball.
(Thursday 31 July 2025; 11:52)
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Sugar Sweet video clip (110,238)
by Jamie from UK
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So Mariah has shown a clip of the new [Sugar Sweet] video. What you guys think? She loves a stairway I'll give her that, remember I Don't. I love the ensemble, she looks really nice. I just wish her face would show it too, she looks miserable, she looked happier in the kitchen clip she did. There's a part in the video where her eyes go to the left like she's looking for direction, it's a poor edit if that's gonna be in the final video. She looks nice, I just don't think it's going to rescue the song.
(Thursday 31 July 2025; 08:55)
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Sugar Sweet lyrics: "Cause I will absolutely get the ring"? (110,188)
by Shezz from Pk
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That's exactly what I thought as well. "I will absolutely get the ring" is another way of saying "I know that you'll be back boy." He'll call her and want to see her again. I don't think she means "I know he's going to marry me eventually." How ridiculous would that be. We need her to clear that up for us.
I love the Harper's Bazaar cover and shoot.
(Tuesday 29 July 2025; 14:08)
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Sugar Sweet lyrics: "Cause I will absolutely get the ring"? (110,146)
by Mirage_Nunez from America
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Oh I thought she meant "the ring" as in "phone call", ie she's not worried because she knows he'll be back, not going anywhere, will reach back out to her. Perhaps it's a double entendre.
The song is very catchy. I've listened to it several times back to back, so this could be the one. It really gives me the "Mariah is back" feel... like a very enjoyable album is on the way.
(Tuesday 29 July 2025; 00:56)
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Andrew (110,099)
by Shezz from Pk
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Agreed Mimi L. His ridiculous outbursts at you are my last memories of him. Whoever still has a soft spot or sympathy for him should maintain a direct private relationship with him.
Bobby A. is downplaying how rude he was to him. And then of course the daily nonstop venom spewed at Mariah.
There are plenty of people here who don't like her current music or style or what have you but they always express it with respect and love still for her.
(Saturday 26 July 2025; 19:09)
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Andrew (110,089)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I for one am glad he's gone and hope he stays gone. I think everyone on this board forgot why he was banned. I can appreciate people having different takes and different opinions about MC but Andrew's opinions weren't just about Mariah. His very last stunt was being extremely violent towards me and a few others on this board. He resorted to name calling, personally attacking and just making outrageous posts that had no business here. All because he didn't agree with my views. I get some people who know him say that he was going though personal stuff but no amount of stuff going on in your personal life justifies viciously attacking someone on a freaking messageboard. Not only was he a bully, he also never considered that the person he's throwing insults at may have personal things going on themselves but didn't resort to his level of insult hurling. His language had gotten so bad when responding to me the webmaster had to stop posting them. Not only included abusive language he would also constantly demean people for their English, myself included when English isn't our first language. He was petty, a bully and downright abusive and this wasn't the first time he did that to me at least and wouldn't have been the last if he wasn't stopped.
(Saturday 26 July 2025; 13:11)
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Jimmy Kimmel (110,041)
by Shezz from Pk
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It was the twins out leopard print dress. Then the styling just took it over the edge. A misstep after some pretty good looks the last couple of months.
(Friday 25 July 2025; 13:12)
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Jimmy Kimmel (110,035)
by Jamie from UK
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I didn't feel Mariah was looking her best on Jimmy Kimmel, she looked a bit cheap and not glamorous. Just my opinion. I've seen her looking better. I think it was the hair and earrings made her look a bit street.
(Friday 25 July 2025; 11:50)
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Sugar Sweet (110,023)
by Shezz from Pk
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Ok, an instant ear worm. I love the beat and love how all 3 of them blend seamlessly on the song. No one feels like a cut and paste after thought. This is how you arrange a trio - Walter take notes. Doesn't seem short at all. I think it'll do better with the streamers and the TikTokers than TD did. Feels more like a Mariah song than TD did (no hate for TD, I do really like it). Another interpolation (ILT) that fit well. Has potential to do way better than TD. I love Mariah's chest voice specially on "I hope that you don't mind, I'm gonna take my time". That's the sweet spot of the song.
If I had to nitpick, I know Mariah loves to add all her textures but her head voice isn't as smooth anymore. And the fan art cover. Actually fan art has become brilliantly better with AI.
Will be interesting to see how it does - JLo has dropped her Birthday song as well. I know we all need to not focus on chart success anymore but the truth of the matter is that unless she and the label see decent numbers, there really won't be much more music from her.
Also, Bobby A. I may be wrong but I feel like Here For It All might be an introspective ballad with Daniel Moore.
Happy Sugar Sweet weekend guys. No more reprimanding please.
(Friday 25 July 2025; 07:12)
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Here For It All (109,905)
by Shezz from Pk
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Stacey I wouldn't call you a "Tommy Era only" fan. Key word being "only". You show love for her all the time and you never partake in any bashing. You're a wonderful person and wow you have a 17 year old. I too fell in love with her during the Tommy era and I will never deny those were her best years, but I still look forward to what she releases now. It is what it is. Here for it all. Pun intended.
I love the album title and the cover art, although it feels more like a photograph you'd generally find in the album liners than on the cover. It's very reminiscent of a magazine shoot she did a few years ago, I think for W.
(Tuesday 22 July 2025; 03:42)
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Here For It All (109,899)
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I love the title. It speaks to her amazing career and all those events (good and bad) that have shaped who she is today. Did you guys know Here For It All has the same release date as Daydream? That can't be a coincidence, right? 9/26 is also my daughter's 17th birthday. So of course in her honor I'll be buying Mariah's new album, lol. Amazon has exclusive cover art releasing on July 23rd. As a Tommy era fan, I'm not stressing about anything. I always hope for the best.
(Tuesday 22 July 2025; 01:56)
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The new finished snippet (109,869)
by Shezz from Pk
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As Mimi L. explained it to us, the lyrics are basically Honey 2.0 but from her perspective. Hopefully they've been kept open enough for people to derive whatever meaning they want to. I can't wait for the announcement today. I wonder if we're getting a tracklisting as well or just the cover art and title (and hopefully the date). And then Friday the new single. Exciting times for most of us. Stressful times for the Tommy era only fans. Will she tarnish their image of her they've clung to even more? I hope there's something in MC16 for everybody
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The new finished snippet (109,865)
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Great ear, Terna. No wonder I instantly thought Sensational by CB vibes lol. I hope it is similar though, I love that song. I'm praying her lyrics in this song are sweet and fun and not her being petty about a guy and dissing him. I guess the lyrics could go either way, "Ima keep it nice, Ima keep it neat, Ima keep it suga, Ima keep it sweet", could also mean "don't mess with me and everything gon be cool" lol or am I reaching?
(Monday 21 July 2025; 02:34)
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The problem with Brad and hating ass hoes (109,820)
by Shezz from Pk
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Haha I think I have this right let me try Brad criticized TD and Mariah's choices (as is his right, this is a Mariah discussion forum) I'm paraphrasing but I think he said it's not age appropriate and not quality work. Then another member (I think Victoria - not sure so sorry if I'm wrong) responded by saying it's not his place to decide how women (Mariah included) should behave at what age (as is her right). She went on to say that a lot of people here love to bash M and mock her (which is not too far from the truth but I suppose it is their right) and then I think she implied he was a "hating ass hoe". Then Brad misconstrued a comment from Stacey as an attack on him and then declared that he's packed up his Louis Vuitton and jumped in his ride and took off. Baby he's gone.
Also, excited for next Friday and the "special guests".
Bobby A, name your top 5 informed guesses based on current research I know you've been doing.
(Saturday 19 July 2025; 09:22)
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The problem with Brad and hating ass hoes (109,816)
by TJ from Norway
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I guess it's a sun stroke. I really, really don't understand anything. But then again, I used to be blonde (before my hair decided to leave me).
Peace.
(Saturday 19 July 2025; 02:04)
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New snippet (109,792)
by Shezz from Pk
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She responded to someone on X regarding July being almost over basically saying that being early wasn't her strongest suit. We still have next weekend and that is very much still July.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 17:51)
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New snippet (109,789)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC is so funny. She knows how to get us all excited. We might get three huge announcements today or Friday. The video will seem pointless if she doesn't say something significant today or Friday. July is almost over and TD won't make it back into the Hot 100 now.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 15:27)
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New snippet (109,791)
by Shezz from Pk
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Lol Mimi L I never even thought it could be about that kind of housekeeping. I hope some of the more lyric sensitive board members here can control their eye balls before they roll inside out if that indeed is what the song is about. Trust Mariah to make that sound so beautiful.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 17:48)
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I think she's teasing a new song and lol it's not about cleaning the house. Lol have you heard 34+35 by Ariana singing "I've been drinking coffee, I've been eating healthy, you know I keep it squeaky" lol our girl is probably singing about her private parts like Ariana as well, because when she's chopping the cushion she's also singing "I'mma give it to ya". Or she's about to drop the housewife's banger for the summer and it is about cleaning the house hahah.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 14:41)
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New snippet (109,778)
by Shezz from Pk
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At first I thought oh wow she's teasing a new song/next single. Then it struck me later that it also could be a "mop song" moment that she's making up/freestyling while "cleaning" - "I'mma keep it nice, I'mma keep it neat" could literally just be about cleaning, not necessarily lyrics to the song to launch the album. Confused and curious.
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New snippet (109,775)
by Haiji from United States
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MC just posted an acapella moment of what could possibly be her new song.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 02:26)
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New album (109,717)
by Shezz from Pk
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Bobby A, Edward is 100% right. Even if she released Fantasy right now it really wouldn't do much.
Secondly I think we need to trust their process. They have a plan plus they're probably still working a few things out. I'd rather she finish everything right than announce the album prematurely and then delay it later. Plus she's not going to have a mega pop star roll out.
6 weeks ago we thought she was done, that she'd never release anything again and that there was something gravely wrong with her. A week later she gave us a brand new single and said MC16 is on its way, did numerous radio appearances and BET, performed at Capital FM, released one of her better videos in the last 15 years, rpartaked in a confused chaotic song with Barbra, Walter and Ariana and then just released a remix ep with some pretty good remixes. All in the last 5 weeks after being mostly out of action for 7 years. Cut MC and Gamma some slack. She knows what she's doing. The next single will be out soon and so will the album announcement.
No amount of promotional blitz will make it perform along the level of the current stars but the music will be there for you to enjoy regardless.
(Sunday 13 July 2025; 18:13)
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New album (109,714)
by Bobby A from United States
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I am trying to understand, but I just feel like something is off this month with the rollout of the album. I don't like this waiting game. Maybe a joint tour announcement with unlikely male pop artist would generate more buzz for MC16 and increase MC's streams.
(Sunday 13 July 2025; 16:31)
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Unpopular opinions (109,671)
by Shezz from Pk
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MC16 will not do well commercially nor will the second single but it will be worth the wait.
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Unpopular opinions (109,669)
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1. I wanted JD to stay MC's manager longer than he did. 2. MC should have done a complete country soundtrack for the movie Tenneseee. I wanted more songs with Willie Nelson and other country artists. 3. Melt Away should have been a single. A viral moment on Tiktok and vinyl release like It's A Wrap would have been nice in 2024. 4. A No No should have been the lead single for Caution. 5. Cool On You should have made the final tracklist for E=MC2. 6. I love Bryan-Michael Cox's collaborations with MC alone. 4 Real 4 Real and For The Record are their best collaborations. 7. If this summery second single doesn't become a bigger Hot 100 hit, MC16's overall success is going to be very low. I don't know what plan Gamma has for the 2nd single's release, but I am starting to worry now since TD is fading fast in a lot of people's minds.
(Thursday 10 July 2025; 15:33)
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I Stay In Love (109,648)
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Still one of my favorites from E=MC2.
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I Stay In Love (109,644)
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Ok so I was scrolling TikTok and I randomly happened up a snippet of ISIL and I don't know why that song was so hated, it's actually pretty nice and very classic Mariah. I know it was put in the trash can as a WBT dupe but I think it's a decent song with a great beat. Anyways just my two cents, justice for ISIL.
(Monday 7 July 2025; 00:00)
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Three voices, one problem (109,526)
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That's exactly how it went according to Barbra in a recent interview. They all recorded their parts separately and then it was put together. How does that even work I sometimes try to imagine. All 3 sing all of it then their parts are picked or they just sing their assigned parts? Sounds like there's no room for any synergy of energies there.
I don't fault Mariah here at all. She did not write the lyrics, the melody, nothing. Did the best she could with her voice. I don't think this is any indication of MC16 whatsoever.
Not a bad song but it could have soared. Mariah should have been in charge of writing and producing it but I suppose with Walter in charge that was not really an option.
(Sunday 29 June 2025; 14:20)
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Three voices, one problem (109,513)
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Considering this song is highly reminiscent of 90s adult contemporary music, I was expecting more. There was definitely room here for "All I Ever Wanted" style vocals from all of them. Mariah held back to her own detriment. It feels like these three were never in the same studio. It's like they all recorded their individual parts from their home studios and then emailed them to Walter A to sew together. If these three could have gotten together and arranged their vocals with each other, this could have become something special. It just feels very bland unfortunately.
(Saturday 28 June 2025; 09:25)
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Barbra's song (109,485)
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Mariah sounds great with them. The production sounds a bit dated though. Is it just me or is there less of Mariah than the other two?
Clearly not a Mariah song but a pleasant surprise. She did her thing with the song she was given, wish we had more of her. Specially on the chorus. Makes me hopeful for the ballads on MC16.
In a weird way it made me appreciate TD more.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 06:36)
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Barbra's song (109,483)
by Todd from Sydney, Australia
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It's so wholesome. It sounds like it's right off the Aladdin soundtrack.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 02:11)
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35 years in the game (109,444)
by Shezz from Pk
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I don't think that was recent. It was a few years ago when Mariah was given the Icon Award by Billboard.
(Monday 23 June 2025; 17:22)
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35 years in the game (109,443)
by Tevin from USA
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Do you have a link to that interview?
(Monday 23 June 2025; 15:42)
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Release (109,392)
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So apparently Barbra has now released 3 singles from the album already. First with Hozier, second with Paul McCartney and third with Laufey. I suppose the Mariah and Ariana song (since you technically cant call it a duet) is the most anticipated and they didn’t want to release it before the album. I wonder if it will actually get the single treatment. Just 10 more days until we get to hear it.
(Tuesday 17 June 2025; 04:43)
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Release (109,375)
by Tameka walker from United states
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Don't Mariah, Ariadne [sic], Barbara [sic] got something coming out the 27th of June just checking. Plus I wanted to say I think that Mariah's new video is one of her best videos in a long time.
(Monday 16 June 2025; 15:41)
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