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About Shezz from Pk:
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Theory (108,875)
by Shezz from Pk
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Plausible. And that would explain a lot. There clearly is a major piece of the puzzle missing. 
(Tuesday 27 May 2025; 12:41)
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Theory (108,874)
by Lambi from USA
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I mean they did try to Britney Spear her. There was a part in her book (page 262) where she talks about Morgan had arranged a "spa" visit but it was actually a hardcore detox and rehab center. They administered her heavy, hard narcotics. Mariah said it made her sluggish, puffy and compliant. I believe this was them inducing mental illness to her. The book "Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties" reveals the MK ultra program, where they can give you mental illness via hard drugs. You'll have no choice but to be dependent on it, then you'll just be drugged to oblivion forever. I also vividly remember Mariah saying, "when I first found out about my diagnosis, I refused to believe it" which she was right. She never had mental illness to begin with. She was purposely driven to exhaustion to be easily irate. Pat knew which buttons to press and knew anyone who hasn't slept in a week will understandably snap. They then used her lashing out as an opportunity to misdiagnose, with the goal of inducing mental illness, to control her with drugs her whole life.
I believe the mafia's desired effects have come into full bloom now. She is undoubtedly heavily depended on it; the dosage probably heightened, I would say right after NYE, when she exposed her BPD and admitted seeking "professional" help and probably even more so now, grieving Pat's death. Taking these meds is obviously a part of her pre-show ritual because she is rather sluggish and puffy. Every concert. I will categorize my assessment to be "allegedly" though, just to be marked safe. It's what I think make sense after recognizing what they've done to other pop stars and doing a deep dive in the history of Hollywood.
I wouldn't say anyone is threatening her necessarily but I will say Mariah is aware of the patterns of their financial terrorism. So many have tried to come for her money. Right now Morgan (which is not to be trusted) is suing the crap out of her over her memoir. I think she is always working hard to afford top-notched lawyers, it really does take money to win cases. There's also a chance Morgan may be backed up again by the mafia. He was already in cahoots with the record company during Mariah's first breakdown and considering how many mainstream publications picked up this case. (People, The NY Times, Daily Mail, Today, Fox News, The Sun, Page Six etc.) A PR firm that's verifiably against Mariah is blasting these articles to the masses. I have read the filings and Morgan is relentless for her money. He is very technical and somehow found a way to forward this case into trial. Mariah will actually have swear under oath pretty soon. That and she's probably preparing to have more than enough sufficient funds for her biopic. Production and talent fees are expensive. It's maybe why she's working herself to the bone.
(Tuesday 27 May 2025; 11:21)
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One Heart, One Voice (108,872)
by Shezz from Pk
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I have high hopes for this collaboration. I wonder if they all actually got in the studio together for this. Doubtful at this point but possible. I wonder how much input Mariah had if any. I expect it to be a full blown classic Barbra ballad. Wow another whole month to wait for this.
(Tuesday 27 May 2025; 06:58)
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One Heart, One Voice (108,862)
by Edward from USA
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"One Heart, One Voice" will be released on June 27. What do guys think it will be like? Could Walter and Mariah bring their magic back with a decent well written song? Will their voices blend in together well? Thoughts.
(Monday 26 May 2025; 03:37)
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This? (108,851)
by Shezz from Pk
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Agreed. She sadly has been heading in this direction for a while. This is not her first bizarre interview. I don't think there is a single person on the board who thinks she should tour anymore. Clearly neither does she. But she will for the rest of the year because she's already signed up for all of them for whatever reasons best known to her. She swore after the Glitter debacle that she would always put herself first and take care of her wellbeing. I hope she holds herself to that. Neurological disorders only get worse with age not better. It seems like she has been in this slow medicated state for a year now as everyone's saying. I agree with everyone that she should stop touring and thus stop the press interviews but clearly that's not going to happen. I still stand by my opinion that her Mimi session was not bad or a misstep. It was nice to finally hear her sing after ages maybe because I never expected her to sound brilliant. It was an honest performance with flaws and all. Looking forward to the Barbra song now. 
(Saturday 24 May 2025; 07:27)
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This? (108,850)
by Xavier mariohmix from Spain
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Is this really the cause of all the debate? Together with the Mimi Sessions? Hey, you all. This is Mariah nowadays. Haven't you noticed? I think some of you are blowing it out of proportion (not directed at anybody specifically, ok?).
However, I've said it before and I'm gonna say it again, I don't think she should be touring this year. Instead, she should just relax and work on the new album if she really wants to release it (and treats us with some performances like the Mimi Sessions just for our entertainment because, even though they are not the best in her career, but she shows real talent and musicality in them).
(Saturday 24 May 2025; 01:10)
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She possibly had a stroke (108,821)
by Shezz from Pk
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She isn't dying, you all need to stop clutching your pearls. Highly doubtful that she'd be touring if she just had a stroke. Not all humans are created equal and not all of them age the same way. Specially ones with neurological disorders that only worsen with time. I think it's commendable she put this out. You all want her to sit down and cry on national tv about her vocal decline. She's not doing that. This is her response to all the lovers and the haters. This is her voice right now. I don't think it was half as bad as some of you think it was. Any one who has remotely followed her in the last few years wouldn't expect anything much better from a stripped performance like this. There are bigger problems in the world to lose sleep over right now. Kudos to Mariah for that honest performance that we have all wanted for a long time.
(Thursday 22 May 2025; 18:07)
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She possibly had a stroke (108,815)
by Jamie from UK
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Something isn't right. She was slurring her words, and couldn't keep up. It quite upset me to see her like this.
(Thursday 22 May 2025; 10:23)
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The Mimi sessions (108,801)
by Shezz from Pk
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Well that was a good surprise. Sounded as well as she can in her current voice - totally stripped. I was nervous when it started but then I said it's not really live. She obviously will only put it out there if she can pull it off. I wonder if there are more or it was just the one.
(Wednesday 21 May 2025; 17:39)
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Vacation (108,656)
by Shezz from Pk
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Have a great vacation Bobby A. Where are you going? I can't wait for the re-energized Bobby.
(Friday 2 May 2025; 06:26)
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Article: What else does the Hall of Fame want from Mariah? (108,650)
by Bobby A from United States
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Things will get better soon. I just know it. I am going on my first summer vacation in two years.
(Thursday 1 May 2025; 23:32)
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MiMi20 CD (108,567)
by Shezz from Pk
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Do we know for sure yet that there are no unreleased tracks? Around 20 tracks not revealed yet but yes they'll all be remixes - I'm hoping for one unreleased song to sneak in though it doesn't look like there are any. She mentioned somewhere that When I Feel It will be included but yes that's been around forever.
(Sunday 13 April 2025; 15:35)
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MiMi20 CD (108,564)
by Edward from USA
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To be honest, it's not really worth it. There's nothing new in this release. I was hoping she'd at least include some leftover tracks from that era. I just don't see the point in celebrating 20 years of such an iconic album without offering anything new. I'm not trying to be a negative Nancy, it's just my humble opinion.
(Saturday 12 April 2025; 22:37)
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TEOM 20 (108,550)
by Shezz from Pk
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Apparently she's doing it a song at a time or so. I liked the remix. Hoping for something a little more major in the next few releases.
(Friday 11 April 2025; 11:14)
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TEOM 20 (108,548)
by TJ from Norway
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I thought it was going to be a big release this morning? All I can see is the remix of DFAU. I used to be blonde, so I might have misunderstood.
(Friday 11 April 2025; 06:33)
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TEOM announcement (108,528)
by Shezz from Pk
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Here you go.
(Monday 7 April 2025; 05:17)
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TEOM announcement (108,526)
by Bobby A from United States
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Shezz, I thought that AI didn't have it right. I looked in my Mariah book and I have written down exactly what you said. Also, I am just wondering if we will get a demo version of WBT without the "come back" background vocals and the FLAB remix by DJ Tracy. Can someone post the link to her TEOM announcement countdown?
(Sunday 6 April 2025; 21:34)
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TEOM announcement (108,520)
by Shezz from Pk
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Bobby, the ultra platinum edition has 20 already which includes 14 original plus 3 platinum edition plus [Sprung] and [Secret Love] plus [WBT] remix. If you add When I feel [It] that's 21. Let's hope there's something AI doesn't know and there are more.
(Sunday 6 April 2025; 13:31)
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TEOM announcement (108,518)
by Bobby A from United States
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I did an AI search for how many unused tracks does Mariah Carey have for TEOM. The results came back as this: tracks recorded: 22 tracks on TEOM release plus 2 bonus tracks: 16 tracks unused: 6
(Sunday 6 April 2025; 03:18)
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TEOM announcement (108,519)
by Shezz from Pk
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Sprung and Secret Love were already released in the Ultra Platinum Edition. When I feel it hasn't gotten an official release though it's been around forever. I hope we get a couple of new tracks at least that she's still saving though they'll mostly be remixes and or live versions I have a feeling.
(Sunday 6 April 2025; 06:43)
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TEOM announcement (108,518)
by Bobby A from United States
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I did an AI search for how many unused tracks does Mariah Carey have for TEOM. The results came back as this: tracks recorded: 22 tracks on TEOM release plus 2 bonus tracks: 16 tracks unused: 6
(Sunday 6 April 2025; 03:18)
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AIWFC lawsuit + Kelly Clarkson (108,509)
by Shezz from Pk
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Funny story about how strangely, Kelly Clarkson the og lamb could be indirectly involved in starting the Vince Vance lawsuit. She covered the song (his version) in late 2020 then performed it at Rockerfeller Center 2021. Billboard did a small piece on it saying "Kelly Clarkson covers AIWFC but no, it's not the Mariah version". She told Billboard that it was her favourite Christmas song growing up. Not many people had talked about it before - then 6 months later in 2022, Vince Vance suddenly reappears after ages and files the lawsuit. Taking this conspiracy theory even further (for laughs) Kelly's cover comes out right around the time the Oh Santa remix not featuring her was released. Of course she has never stopped singing Mariah's praises so the second part is most definitely not linked. I think about it often since I heard her version years ago (i quite like it) just felt like sharing it with y'all today.
(Friday 4 April 2025; 08:14)
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New thing coming (108,508)
by Shezz from Pk
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It's just what the infamous internet "nostradamous insider" said. Though I don't believe much what they say now after Mariah has refused to put anything out in the last few years, this news could very well be true given the current situation. I do think Anderson Paak is not just hanging out with her, they are working together as well.
(Friday 4 April 2025; 06:25)
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New thing coming (108,507)
by Jamie from UK
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What songs were discarded? Not heard this?
(Thursday 3 April 2025; 23:52)
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New thing coming (108,503)
by Shezz from Pk
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And with Anderson Paak apparently overseeing the whole production, it could be a slick fun record. This year she will do a couple of collaborations again and then focus on pushing AIWFC again this at Christmas to regain her crown. If only she'd release Rareties 2 this year all would be well.
(Wednesday 2 April 2025; 20:11)
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New thing coming (108,501)
by Bobby A from United States
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Yes. That is why I said 2026. Lol. I can see why she has discarded those ten songs from 2023. Something is coming after she records new songs.
(Wednesday 2 April 2025; 16:33)
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New thing coming (108,500)
by Shezz from Pk
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Did you see the Nostradamous post about it Bobby?
(Wednesday 2 April 2025; 06:16)
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New thing coming (108,499)
by Bobby A from United States
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I really feel today that new music is coming before November 2026. I just feel it today. It may be an EP or a new single. Plus, the heading is my favorite Elevation Worship song this week. They have so many that I change from week to week.
(Wednesday 2 April 2025; 00:15)
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Moderator (108,398)
by Shezz from Pk
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I'm quite confused with this board right now. Forget about the 90s, I miss Caution Mariah. So I get the lambs on this board who don't like what they see now. But I wish they could see that the other lambs who defend current Mariah are showing their love for her just as you all are showing your love for her by demanding excellence from her.
I don't think they are all "yass queens", they are just more accepting. And the ones expecting more are not "haters". She is not going to have a sit down and declare a "state of emergency" on her voice and cry about it on tv. You know her better than that. Let her go out on her own terms. Celebrate her little wins like the record she'll hopefully reclaim this Christmas with AIWFC that'll make every lamb proud. I think both sides of the lambily need to be easier on each other in this crazy world we live in today already suffocating with hate for people not like themselves.
(Saturday 22 March 2025; 04:45)
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Moderator (108,397)
by Bobby A from United States
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Lol. We have one already - Eric. Who knew that MC's first televised appearance of 2025 could cause so many different perspectives about the state of her career. MC should have prepared us more about what she dealt with during the recording of Caution during her Genius interview. That was the perfect interview for her to come clean about everything that we definitely know now. Caution wasn't rushed. MC just couldn't do vocally with Caution what she was used to doing in the studio. Ten songs was all she could do in the studio because vocally she just couldn't do more. That is just my perspective this week after coming to the conclusion why there is no new album seven years later.
(Saturday 22 March 2025; 01:49)
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Mariah the wonderful human (108,371)
by Shezz from Pk
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I agree. Was it the best speech? No. She is clearly going through some problems and if she would rather have a little bit of fun and be a little ditsy rather than give an inspirational speech, so be it. Maybe she doesn't have it in her at this point to do so. I think her work is far more powerful to be brought down by a speech. I don't think that people who were disappointed by her speech should not comment and move on. Clearly they still love her and want her to shine. What is the point of a messageboard if you can't read a mix of opinions? I personally feel the world tears her down enough, but I understand when others want more. I'm not being a yass queen but I don't think her speech was catastrophic.
Health and happiness to MC and the board. Chin up Bobby, she may not give us another album but we'll get something from her this year.
(Wednesday 19 March 2025; 11:33)
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Mariah the wonderful human (108,365)
by Boy from The Netherlands
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There are so many bitter queens on this board. Was I saddened and heartbroken to see my lifelong icon on stage, clearly struggling with mobility issues and moving stiffly? Yes. But people forget that, at the end of the day, she is not just a public figure or a manufactured pop star who exists to obey a delusional, overly demanding fanbase.
Give her some slack and show some empathy. She will never be her former self, just as we will never be the same people we were ten years ago. She had her glory days, the golden era of pop. Now, I'm just glad she's alive, somewhat enjoying the rest of her life with her kids.
It's really unhealthy to claim to support someone while being so eager to tear them down. Does it hurt me to see her in this state? Yes. But I understand that she's human too, with a very complicated past, and she has lived a life that only a handful of people in the world could ever relate to.
If you don't approve of her anymore, then move on. But don't continue bullying a woman, a mother, in her 50s. Accept her as she is or let her be. Don't project your own version of her onto the world. Just move on.
(Tuesday 18 March 2025; 21:17)
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Happy Friday (108,286)
by Shezz from Pk
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I can't believe we've reached the day when we're ok if Mariah lip syncs as long as long she looks happy to be there. I personally don't mind even if she sits on a chaise lounge with a 90s boom box and just presses play and sips tea as long as she releases MC 16 this year.
(Friday 28 February 2025; 17:13)
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Happy Friday (108,285)
by Bobby A from United States
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I can't believe we have reached the last day of February. I feel great things are about to happen for all during the next few months.
(Friday 28 February 2025; 06:22)
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Remaining Vegas shows (108,240)
by Shezz from Pk
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Agreed Randy. If you look at the Brazil concert videos, she was definitely a whole lot more invested and present than the Vegas residency ones. If she doesn't have more music for now she can focus on her biopic (with the right team). Let's hope she works on getting herself back together now with this break.
(Thursday 20 February 2025; 03:48)
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Remaining Vegas shows (108,239)
by Randy from USA
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The clothing and perfuming offerings are bad ideas RA. The market is saturated. But you are definitely onto something with the writing and producing for other artists as an artist. Mariah can write circles around Kandi Burruss, Montell Jordan and Neyo. Look what they've done for others. And she could definitely write as well as those I consider close to her league Lauryn Hill, R Kelly, Babyface and Kanye. Again, look at what they've done for others. She could've written for Olivia Rodrigo, Sabrina Carpenter, Harry Styles or any other new artists that sell a lot of records and she could do a live festival once a year.
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Remaining Vegas shows (108,235)
by Shezz from Pk
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Agreed. The bottom line is that she's still getting booked. So organizers of these shows don't really see her performances as critically as we do. They only care that she can still fill up theaters and that's fine for them. And in places like China and Brazil she can still fill stadiums. It is what it is basically. I'm still hopeful for some music. We got two collaborative remixes last year as well as two amazing house remixes in a pretty much dead year.
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Remaining Vegas shows (108,234)
by Randy from USA
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I just don't see the fire. Mariah has been like this off and on since Stella. It would scare me more if she moved around the stage, had banter and wasn't singing along to her own voice in the background. I 100% get she doesn't want to be there but that's common knowledge and people will still go see her because she's an icon. My concern is it does reek of financial trouble and not necessarily, I love to perform so much I don't know when to bow out gracefully. Mariah is fine. She is gigging to make sure she can keep Kristopher Buckle, Mary Ann Tatum, Trey Lorenz, Daniel Moore, the umbrella holder, the rental in LA, the G5, the upkeep on the NYC pad and the house in the Bahamas taken care of. I don't see Whitney Houston's decline. I see more of a Joan Crawford, Judy Garland thing here. "I'm Mariah, dahling. I can't be broke."
(Wednesday 19 February 2025; 05:04)
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Oh well more tours announced (108,230)
by Shezz from Pk
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So in addition to Brighton Pride in August she will be doing a show in Brazil in September. Let's hope she can work on some new music before that. I hope that in the time she has until August she can get some solid work done.
Is anybody really excited about the biopic she badly wants to do? It could be interesting, especially since she won't be acting in it but I hope she focuses on new music first.
(Tuesday 18 February 2025; 11:56)
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Mariah doesn't need no man (108,184)
by Shezz from Pk
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Agreed Randy - vocal ability, financial stresses and aging (remember all neurological disorders only worsen with age) are her main problems but being with Tanaka in whatever capacity he was had helped keep her spark alive. Big or small, his departure is a part of the puzzle I think along with her other big problems. It will be interesting to see whenever MC16 does come out, how this period of her life is reflected in it.
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Mariah doesn't need no man (108,181)
by Randy from USA
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I don't think she was ever in love with Tommy. I think she was in love with Luis and she was in love with Nick. The rest are companionships. Her issue right now is what her issue has been since birth. Insecurity. It is hard being in the world eye when you are considered one of the best vocalists who have ever lived and are having problems with your voice. It is hard when you come out and meet your idols Aretha, Patti, Olivia Newton John and Diana. Now you are their age and the girls that are popular are on the charts and winning awards are Ariana Grande, Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo. MC hates touring but needs the money to keep the umbrella holder and her three homes. Tanaka may have been a comfort but he's not the reason she's in pieces. MCs real problem is that she is under pressure about vocal ability, aging and finances.
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Frustrated lamb (108,168)
by Shezz from Pk
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There had been a steady decline in her stage presence and her effort and enthusiasm in the last 10 years but I can't be the only one who noticed the sudden steep dip right after Tanaka left. Whatever their relationship was, she seemed happy and had that spark in her eyes every time he'd be on the stage with her. He kept her excited and happy in life and on the stage and he was the one if I remember correctly who directed the With You AMAs performance. He was her partner in life and on the stage and he made her happy. It was the same spark she had in her early years with Nick. Mariah I think is the type who needs stability and a partner to be excited about other things in her life and there's nothing wrong with it. It's one thing to get over such a relationship in your 20s and a whole other in your 50s. I hope she finds her happiness and her way again.
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by jaker20 from US
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That's how her career is right now: like she doesn't know what's going on or she doesn't care. When she performed With You a couple of years ago, it was at least a production. She times the chorus of the songs with the movement of the feathers, she walks where the dancer are in focus, etc etc. It was not dance choreo, but there was some production there and she's involved.
Now she just walks out and let the dancers do their thing. To me that's a sign that she's not involved anymore. The production and dancers are do their thing and she's given some cues while she's maybe watching TV somewhere or baking.
The lack of effort is reflection of her career right now. No effort, no releases. And from what we've seen, even walking is a huge effort for her. So maybe not even a phone call to collaborators because that's time consuming for her to dial the phone. Just none.
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by Shezz from Pk
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Supposedly (according to internet insiders) after the Vegas residency she and her team are solely going to focus on her music projects and biopic for the rest of the year with no more tours (hopefully). I hope whoever makes her do these concerts will relax a bit now. I think the iheart radio performance in march will be fine like her last BET performance.
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The most recent clips from the 2025 shows are cringeworthy. In one clip, she was "singing" ILT and there was literally no expression on her face, no energy or anything. In another clip she's singing Fantasy and looks lost as though she's been told to follow the dancer around the stage. She's looking around like she has no idea what's going on in that moment. The comments on the videos were in shambles. MC can only keep this up for so long until mainstream media starts asking questions and she's forced to address it or stop performing until she gets herself together. Does no one on her team ever watch her performances back and see that something is wrong? This era is so frustrating as a lamb.
(Sunday 9 February 2025; 20:38)
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Barbra Streisand and Ariana collaboration (108,117)
by Shezz from Pk
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If she can produce vocals good enough to sing with Barbra and Ariana on the same song, then that puts to bed rumours that her vocals are why she’s not recording an album. I think Mariah would not sign off on such a collaboration unless her voice could pull it off.
(Wednesday 5 February 2025; 11:18)
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Barbra Streisand and Ariana collaboration (108,115)
by Jamie from UK
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Wow Shezz, I think you made my day if this is true.
(Wednesday 5 February 2025; 10:29)
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