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About Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End: What the hell is this, MyFace? You mess with MiMi, you mess with ME! #NuffSaid khassandras@gmail.com My MC 2015 fantasy wish list (48,007) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End (Saturday 22 November 2014; 3:07) PREFACE I started out wanting to make or update my previous wish list to realizing that I'm not really that hung up on Mariah accomplishing more than she already has. That's not to say that I will not celebrate in her future commercial endeavors, obviously. Just that it's not as important as being truly spiritually fulfilled. I wish that for myself and I pray that for other people that I love and even people I don't know or have a natural liking for. I understand that not everybody is going to get why I feel the need to post this but I would reference Mariah's own expressed Faith and core beliefs and desires since the world first heard 'Vision of Love'. This is who she has always been striving to become. I recently reread Her autobiography: 'The Meaning of Mariah Carey' and these are some of the thoughts I came away with: "Hopes, Dreams, Wishes, and Prayers for Mariah Carey: 1. Spiritual Fulfillment - That she continues to nurture her relationship with God, leaning on Him for guidance, peace, and joy in all aspects of her life. 2. A Godly Marriage - That she finds a partner who shares her faith, values, and desire to honor God in their union. 3. Healing and Restoration - That the scars from her past—whether from childhood or past relationships—are fully healed, allowing her to live with peace and joy unshaken by old wounds. 4. Authentic Love and Support - That she surrounds herself with people who truly love, respect, and support her for who she is, beyond her celebrity persona. 5. Grace to Be Human - That she is shown grace and understanding by others, allowing her to make mistakes, grow, and evolve without judgment or undue criticism. 6. Freedom from Worldly Pressures - That she finds liberation from the entertainment industry’s materialistic and superficial values, allowing her to fully embrace her God-given identity. 7. Purposeful Legacy - That she continues to use her platform and music to inspire others and share the presence of God, as she has done through her Christmas albums and other works. 8. A Loving and Faith-Centered Family - That her family relationships, including with her children, remain strong, loving, and centered on mutual faith and respect. 9. Unwavering Faith - That she remains steadfast in her faith, even when faced with life’s challenges, and continues to be a beacon of hope for others. 10. Divine Guidance - That she discerns God’s will in her decisions, whether in her personal life or professional endeavors, and trusts His plan for her. " In Jesus Almighty name, Amen.

Rainbow the girl power album? (50,855) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End When I was putting my list together of my fave MC partnerships I was reminded of how Rainbow is the one album of Mariah's where she worked the most with other female writers, producers and fellow artists. Even the Lauren Hill collabo that never happened was supposed to be on that album. Diane Warren, Missy Elliot, Tracey Waples, Da Brat and Kandi Burruss. I wondered if it was by design or just happenstance. But then, the title and cover is also a salute to the LGBT struggle. So, it looks like it was an intentional direction by Mariah for Rainbow to encompass the many colors of equal rights that she represents. It also could be all in my mind. (Friday 13 March 2015; 20:55)

Favourite musical partnerships of Mariah's (50,844) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End 1. Jermaine Dupri *Brian Michael Cox *Manuel Seal, 20 years this year 2. David Morales 3. Big Jim 4. Puffy and Stevie J. 6. The Dream and Tricky 7. Ben Margulies *Ric Wake *Narrada Michael Walden #Afanasieff 8. Walter Afanasieff 9. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis #James "Big Jim" Wright 10. Clivillés and Cole **Honourable mentions: Marc Shaiman, Da Brat, Damizza. The only position that is fixed is the #1 spot and I mainly have Walter on the list for sentimental reasons. I have no desire for them to work together again in any capacity even though she's back at Sony. I'm curious what the rest of the Lambily's lists look like. Have a go, why don't you? (Friday 13 March 2015; 5:56)

So's to Nikki, TheVoice and Abraham (50,825) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Nikki, there is no need to apologise, especially over someone like Thirsty. He had a lot of people fooled. Even though I never warmed up to him, I wanted to believe he was making Mariah happy. He reminds me of that woman, Heather Mills, who married Paul McCartney and tried to take him for all he was worth not four years later. I remember watching a documentary featuring Paul and Heather and knowing just from the look on Mick Fleetwood's face during his "positive" commentary on Heather, that he meant just the opposite of what he was saying on camera: he didn't believe it was genuine at all. I bet there were also people in Mariah's camp who figured out Nick from the get-go too. But I guess no one thought she'd marry him so quickly without warning. At least Mariah was smart enough to have a prenup even in her temporary insanity. It's like that you all, people will take advantage of your heart whether you're McCartney, MJ or Mariah. Meanwhile, Thirsty is on Instagram posting emo quotes and looking like twelve years a slave. Karma. It's like that you all. (Thursday 12 March 2015; 19:27)

It's official you all, Mariah and Sony are back together (50,813) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End I don't even care that it's Roger Friedman breaking it. Mariah is back home. I feel like she's been moved 13 times since Tommy made her leave her musical home back in 2001. She helped build that house and I believe it was only ever a matter of time before she found her way back. Was this why MC and JD rendezvoused in L.A. last week instead of ATL? Yay for 2015 as the year of the butterfly. I wonder how many albums she owes them this time round. I'm hoping for a conservative number. What do you guys think of the new Sony deal? (Thursday 12 March 2015; 4:32)

Cannon who? (50,752) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End That was literally what went through my head, even if only a few moments, as I read the last paragraphs of the Bel-Air house sale from a few days ago. The writer of the article omitted Nick from Cannon and I completely forgot who he was. It took me to actually finish reading the article for it to dawn on me. I made "Cannon" into one of the previous celebrity owners, like Farrah Fawcett etc. In my mind, he was some older Hollywood royalty akin to Aaron Spelling. He was Jewish and everything. "Singer-superstar Carey, known for vocal range, has received five Grammy Awards. Among her award-winning work is the album 'The Emancipation Of Mimi' and recognition as best new artist in 1990. Cannon has written for several television shows bearing his name as well as 'Incredible Crew' (2012-13). He has hosted his own shows and 'America's Got Talent' (2009-13). They separated last year and have filed for divorce, according to multiple media reports." It was so weird how I had to actually read the last sentence repeatedly for it to fully register. Yeah, crazy, I know. But to be fair I was on several media platforms and playing music, texting etc. He honestly slipped my mind. (Tuesday 10 March 2015; 15:10)

Amber, Billy on Mariah's look / Where is her beauty brand? (50,682) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Amber, I totally shaped my eyebrows like Mariah too, once I got the hang of the tweezers. Initially I shaved them. That went completely left as you can imagine, but I was only 12 when I did that genius move. It's only funny now that I know Mariah did the same thing as a kid. I've since not tweezed once for over 3 years now after waxing for a decade. I bet your makeup is on point if you have Mariah as your template. I'm surprised she hasn't made good on her beauty/makeup line because that chick's face is, and always was, flawless. Like, have you ever seen Mariah not look young, fresh and new? She's a freak of nature in more ways than one. It can't be all genetics, can it? Billy, I never knew Lenny Kravitz had Heartbreaker jeans but I got this confirmation from Google. BTW, I wonder if Mariah and Lenny are ever gonna release a song together. That would be a hot tamale for sure. They've known each other since before they made it big. You have to be a lamb to even know stuff like that. She understands celebrity versus reality. I love that about Mariah. (Friday 6 March 2015; 18:09)

How has Mariah influenced your personal style, if at all? (50,647) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End So that above clip from circa 2007 had me going down fashion memory lane with Mariah. And I remember how much I gravitated towards anything that looked like her signature Victor Alfaro dresses. I even went to my aunt's wedding with a little black dress. I honestly couldn't have cared less because I wanted to look chic at every cost back when I was a teen in the 90's. I didn't realise at the time I was more or less trying to emulate Mariah's style. It just so happens I also grew to have a similar build to hers, curvy mesomorph. I remember during the Rainbow era how she single handedly changed the way girls and women wore jeans for over a decade after the Heartbreaker video came out. I cut the top of a pair of my light blue jeans too before the fashion industry caught up, and wore them one summer. I also never follow trends. It's easier to follow what looks good on my body and makes for a more cohesive and timeless wardrobe. So, what say you, how has Mariah influenced your style? (Thursday 5 March 2015; 1:19)

The band is back together (50,644) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Ha. Turns out MC and JD are back in the studio working on new music. I'm not mad, but it has to be more to it since they opted for L.A. over NY and Atlanta. Hmmm. Mariah's still managing herself quite nicely. She seems to agree with herself swimmingly these days. We like that. OAN I want a club banger to rock out to this summer. Or a readily stripped down ballad. Honestly, just surprise us with a totally new wall of sound. But never the less, I'm excited and if Jermaine likes it, then I (usually) like it too. (Thursday 5 March 2015; 0:55)

Mariah's in session recording in L.A. / Nikki love (50,604) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Yay for new music. 19th #1 coming at you. I wonder who she's collaborating with. I'm only excluding Jermaine since he's based in Atlanta. So, who do we know on the WC that has Mariah leaving on a jet plane, Michael Bolton? Shout out to Nikki, lamb of chops, for an excellent post. Mariah always gets a disproportionate amount of criticism and I'm glad you took the time to put it in actual numbers. (Tuesday 3 March 2015; 23:34)

Abraham (50,551) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End There is now conclusion. (Sunday 1 March 2015; 12:03)

We are Lambily (50,550) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End It's a two way street, a symbiosis. We, hardcore lambs, feel just as connected to Mariah as she does to us. I am spiritually closer to her than some of my own kin. Make of that what you will, but it's not really up for debate. Ever heard of the term Lambily? Sure, most of us have never even met her IRL to say we "know" her but sharing physical space isn't all it takes to know someone intimately. Listening and communicating is where it's at. I've been listening to Mariah since before I was a teen and in turn she has communicated a lot of the things that I needed to hear. I probably wouldn't have survived my teens without her music. No one else has that claim on me and for that we will always be boned. I'm sure many of you have a similar emotional connection to her or else you wouldn't be here. Mariah got through to us by being compassionate, not by showing us so called "tough love". Also, I am of the opinion that Mariah knows about MCA and knows to come here at least every once in a while. Why wouldn't she? This site is a lamb staple and as active as it's ever been since it first started. I doubt that she's an actual poster but who knows? (Sunday 1 March 2015; 11:58)

Lol Abraham (50,541) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End I don't know if you even remember this but you once (end of last year?) out of nowhere practically threatened to have my head because of some affront I had supposedly committed against Diane Ernestine Earle Ross in my commentary. I never responded since I hadn't been posting about her and just assumed you had me mixed up with another poster. Come to find out, you're a regular bloodhound when it comes to The Boss Lady. Now I see you must have interpreted something I wrote as shade towards DR. That's hilarious in seven different languages because I Stan for her IRL and I would never. Never. Ever. So, at ease peacock, we're cool. (Saturday 28 February 2015; 22:59)

Lee, Fifth Harmony's "Like Mariah" medley / Simon Cowell (50,539) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End "Simon Cowell on his favorite Fifth Harmony song and their recent succes." You beat me to it. Isn't it amaze? Not 5 months ago I was on another board raving about 5H and their vocal abilities mirroring Mariah's. I had no idea they would pay homage to her in such a big way on their album or their tour. They are stanning hard for her, campaigning in interviews on the low for her to make a cameo in their 'Like Mariah' video. Make it happen Simon. Mariah, bring the girls on stage in Vegas to perform with you, they already have their harmonies down and everything. Make my wish come true, all I want in Vegas is 5H and you (Saturday 28 February 2015; 22:39)

The dress? Me. I am team blue and black (50,514) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Mariah is obviously blind as a bat. See, I can call her on her bullshit. I just choose my battles and this is not one I am backing down from. Mariah, I you but you need to check your eye sight. Same goes for all you lambs who are team white and gold. This debate is the perfect metaphor for this board tbh. We will never see eye to eye no matter how hard some of us try. (Saturday 28 February 2015; 1:44)

Jon (50,493) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End YME was a poor choice for lead single as it wasn't distinct enough on its own or really representative of the major theme on MIAMTEC. It's deceptively melancholy and yet they were trying to sell it as a Valentine's anthem. It smells like self sabotage. The video worked against it too because even now I don't ever reference it, almost like it never happened. It was a complete waste not to have Mariah interact with Trey Songz, especially if they had chemistry. Reminds me of her early videos where she wasn't allowed to have hot guys in her videos lest Tommy pitch a fit. DIDT of course wouldn't have worked as first single for Rainbow because it was too dark as a single period. Let alone as a figurehead. Obsessed is a perfect example of a snarky yet upbeat diss song that works and unsurprisingly it did well because the video was original in concept and funny. Who would have thought Mariah would be caught dead in a beard? (Friday 27 February 2015; 16:44)

Lamb: Did I Do That? (50,491) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Me too. It's supposedly about Derek Jeter but I guess even Tommy fits the bill. It's one of her most difficult songs to sing because she literarily doesn't breathe for like half the song. It's just snarky goodness and so obviously rap influenced. Mariah broke the diva mould once again with that one. Who does that? Genius. (Friday 27 February 2015; 16:08)

Mariah's influence on Rihanna (50,488) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End As always I find myself having to break down the simplest of statements just because some of these posters can't ever let me get away with making sense. A large part of Mariah's success with #1 singles comes from her being very prolific, that's just basic math. Rihanna is really the only mega star of her generation who copied that trait, releasing albums back to back. Ergo, she now is now biting at MC's heels, at least when it comes to #1 songs. There is no secret sauce here so I don't get why you got your pantries in a twist as I also never claimed Rihanna had no other influence, like Madonna, aside from Mariah who have informed her artistry. Just like Mariah has been influenced by dozens of her predecessors and contemporaries. But it's clear you are willing to be deliberately obtuse just so you can post gibberish in the name of "Mariah Ain't Shit". And since when isn't Mariah Carey, much like Franklin, Labelle, Streisand and Ross a supreme vocalist, songwriter, producer and actress in her own right? What kind of fool? (Friday 27 February 2015; 15:49)

Otti, videos as album promoters (50,447) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End The Butterfly videos are always gonna be my favourites as as well. She was just bursting with creativity on all fronts during that era. I wish she'd do more videos like that, where she can really display her ability to emote and tell a story. I'm not giving up on MIAMTEC getting more videos than YM, which was such a strange choice for first single, you just know it was the label's decision. If she's gonna release a #1's again, why not promote MIAMTEC by including videos as a bonus? Wasn't there talk, just a few months back, of Thirsty and YDKWTD being filmed? That's the whole purpose of videos: to promote the single and in turn whatever album the song is on. But I get that the MIAMTEC is caught between a rock and a hard place with all the things that have transpired in Mariah life both personally and professionally this last year that continue to conspire against its success. Maybe we'll at least get concert videos at some point. She used to be famous for those, remember? (Friday 27 February 2015; 0:18)

Barbra Streisand's Longevity (50,427) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End When Mariah was asked who she modeled her career after back in her debut days she mentioned Barbra Streisand specifically as someone who was still relevant decades into her career trajectory. And Barbra is still here. Just like the vocal powerhouses Aretha, singer-songwriter and Patti, businesswoman, Diana, the first black female mega star. Not to mention Stevie Wonder, unparalleled musician. Barbra, actress, producer and singer in equal measure, is even more elusive than Mariah, she hardly ever does live concerts because of stage fright, but she still sells albums in a steady pace. So it's no coincidence that Mariah is still here. She has learned to take from the best of her idols to fit her own career choices and artistry. Just like any talented aspiring or even established artists look to her for inspiration instead of as irrelevant. Notice how someone like Rihanna still credits VOL as the spark that lit her fire and ambition to make music. It's no wonder she is the closest one to Mariah's #1 records. Game recognises game, right? Mariah is an icon and a living legend at this point. It doesn't mean she should rest on her laurels, it just means she has paid her dues. She is beyond demanding attention. Mariah commands it. (Thursday 26 February 2015; 16:57)

Heartbreaker, you've got the best of me (50,415) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End That video is in league with MJ's short films. I have a soft spot for badass Mariah, Not to mention the musical dancing. The fight scene is so ratchet and so iconic now but I remember being flabbergasted the first time I saw it. Floored, much like Bianca. It could totally be made into a movie, starring yours truly. (Thursday 26 February 2015; 1:23)

Attention mean girls: WTF? (50,392) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End So now I'm Regina George huh? Just put me in a burnbook and be done with it already. I'm not editing my post even if I could. For the record I'm not asking you or anyone else to magically not want Mariah showing up to every Tony, Oscar and Emmy award show. I'm simply stating that historically Mariah doesn't prioritise these shindigs. Unlike many of those red carpet staples she actually works, i.e. writes all her own songs, sings and produces them. Not to mention she is prepping for Vegas while knee deep in a draining divorce with a guy whose theme song is "Thirsty". But yeah, she should totally make an effort to get on the best dressed lists of tabloids instead of rehearsing, writing, taking care of her babies and herself. Also, if you only want certain posters to respond to your comments then please specify who. Not that this is an open forum and the email was invented when Music Box came out or anything. Stop trying to police intelligent thought and opinion. I don't know why you think Mariah Carey is suddenly gonnna become this other person. She's not about that life. I reiterate a point I already made in a previous post: If and when Mariah is recognised as an artist or part of a project she invariably shows up and shows out. The fact that Mariah has stayed relevant for 25 years without being a "red carpet darling" is a feat in and of itself. Who else can say that? My reading comprehension is legendary, I read fools on the daily and they don't even know it. (Wednesday 25 February 2015; 14:00)

Jaker20 at the Oscars (50,380) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Joker, you must be a joker. Why on Earth would Mariah go to the Oscars this year? I mean, she didn't even go to the Grammys or any other award show this season. She's laying low and working on her shit. I'd rather she focus on that than do the "who are you wearing?" schtick. Mariah isn't and will never be thirsty for gratuitous fame, she usually only shows up to support projects she is part of anyway. Plus she has toddlers, I'm sure they keep her busy. Vegas is only a May away, and her appearance on Empire before that will tide us over nicely I predict. This is the Elusive Chanteuse era, didn't you get the memo? (Wednesday 25 February 2015; 0:19)

I miss Mariah's eyebrows (50,352) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End The ones she had on the debut album. I wonder if she can still grow them like that. I'm obsessed with thick brows, always been. Just a random thought. At ease. (Monday 23 February 2015; 19:12)

Mariah 25.0 (50,351) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End I really want a new Mariah documentary. I could care less about any "sit down" interviews with Barbara, Oprah or Diane. They will shade her just for ratings. But an HBO documentary or mini series about her in any shape or form would be stellar. Mariah is at her best when she can be herself anyway, unfiltered. It's something I wish Musical icons like MJ and Whitney had done to make sure they are on record addressing all that goes along with being a living legend on their own terms. It could be cathartic for her if done right. Give her a reason to reflect over the dichotomy that is her life so she can regroup. I'd pay good money for that DVD. A film or miniseries is much more timely than a book as she is only 44 years old. Either way, I'm happy she isn't courting the press, she obviously doesn't need to. People (read Thirsty) are up her butt anyway. NTT. (Monday 23 February 2015; 18:54)

The Jazz & Blues Festival 2015 live compilation in Jamaica (50,275) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Setlist (some performances are missing): 1. Fantasy 2. Touch My Body 3. Emotions (missing) 4. I'm That Chick (missing) 5. Triumphant (Get 'Em) (a capella) (missing) 6. Make It Happen 7. Vision of Love 8. My All 9. Honey (So So Def remix) 10. Heartbreaker (remix) 11. Shake It Off 12. I'll Be There (The Jackson 5 cover with Trey Lorenz) 13. Rock With You (Michael Jackson cover by Trey Lorenz, Mariah singing back up, missing) 14. #Beautiful (with Trey Lorenz) 15. Always Be My Baby 16. We Belong Together Apparently parts of the concert are missing but I still appreciate the lambs that filmed the clips and the one who edited it all together. My faves were MIH, VOL, IBT and WBT because Mariah brought so much passion as well as raw vocals to them with some of the most honest adlibs you'll ever hear from her. She's really the consumate jazz singer. (Wednesday 18 February 2015; 20:24)

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