Bad dancing vs. not caring (78,441)
by jaker20 from US
Emancipation era was full of awful dancing, but people loved that era because she put effort on them. Mariah was never a dancer. She's always been awkward when she dances. But let's not be foolish here, there is a world of a difference between not knowing how to dance vs. stripping then doing nothing on stage. MC always needed choreography because she's not a natural dancer, especially on her upbeat 90s songs. Even ballads where she just walks on stage requires choreo and preparation. It's Like That VH1 performance she did during Emancipation, she just walked around the stage while flowing her dress, but it's cute and cool because you can tell it was choreographed. The last 8 or so years have been repulsive to be perfectly honest. No preparation, just rubbing her hair and legs and lipping. I can bookend the past ten years of epic fails. (1) American Idol Bye Bye performance which she lipped. It's a big top 5 night, AI was ratings blockbuster at the time. She coached the contestants. Yet she lipped. (2) American Idol again, all season she's judging, ratings are decent. Yet when it's finally time to sing, she just stood on a stage float and semi-lipped. (3) VH1 this week, she's being honored, and lipped and did not seem to have anything prepared. In between these fails, it's controversies, divorce, flop singles, lip-gates. Cher was older than her when she hit no.1, and she doesn't dance either. Madonna was older than her when she hit top 3 with 4-Minutes and she's an awful singer. MC is irrelevant in pop music the past 5 years or so. At this point, I'm not worried about her career. I'm worried about her sanity period. (Wednesday 20 September 2017; 06:54)
She's completely lost it (78,424)
by jaker20 from US
She's become so lazy it seems, just coasting on the benefits of the 90s. She can't sing live, she can't move, she's not had a proper single in a decade (debatable because to me it's much longer), has not properly promoted a song, has not had a solid album in a long time. Everything is about what she's wearing, and being sexy. She's become a poor man's Pamela Anderson who is 50 now. Mariah is a complete and absolute joke now. Every performance is followed by the public mocking her. Its actually embarrassing these days to be called an Mariah fan. Tragic. But hey, she's "worked hard in the past, so she's got nothing to prove". That none-sense has crippled her creativity. Much older performers did well in the past, but Mariah completely losing it is self-imposed. (Tuesday 19 September 2017; 20:11)
Re: Mariah Carey installed skinny mirrors in home? (78,326) (78,333)
by jaker20 from US
The fact that people are talking about [this] stuff speaks volumes of the state of MC's career. As nasty as these rumors are, that means no one is interested to talk about whatever music she's doing. I mean my 12 year old niece [doesn't] even know [who] she is for crying out loud, and that says a lot [because] she knows Whitney and Madonna. (Sunday 10 September 2017; 06:09)
Re: Slightly shocked at Despacito (78,223) (78,229)
by jaker20 from US
Actually Edward, it was exactly Justin's version that got the song to where it is now. The song without Justin was released in January, and got multiple remixes, and lingered on the chart for months but never reached top 40. So if the song was so hot, why didn't it chart higher? It was after Justin's remix version was released in mid April that the song took off, entered the top 40, and was no.1 in just a few weeks. Would the song have reached no.1 without Justin? Maybe. Would the song have reached no.1 if the song was only Justin and without Fonsi and Yanke. Maybe. But that's not what happened here. That's not the fact. It was the combination of both that got it to break record, a similar fear accomplished by MC with B2M in the 2 big artists collab is better than one. (Thursday 31 August 2017; 21:21)
Re: Slightly shocked at Despacito (78,212) (78,216)
by jaker20 from US
[It's] some sort of chart manipulation. I know chart tricks happens since the beginning of [Billboard], but Despacito is sort of the perfect storm of this "trick". The song has two versions, the original one, and the one with Justin Bieber, and both songs are charting on iTunes, radio and streaming. The Spanish one is rotated heavily on Spanish radio, but both version on iTunes count as one. So that's a lot of push. It is very weird how artists and studios do this to manipulate the charts, but I know MC was also accused of chart tricks in the past, especially during the Glitter era. Also studios/artists release different remixes now, and they stagger the release of each remix just at the right time either when the song is peaking on the charts to give it a boost. But in the case of Despacito, the end result is more impactful because having 2 different languages is clearly a bigger push. I think the song would still be no. 1 for 4 or 5 weeks or so but definitely not 16 weeks. The song is generic pop for me. Someone mentioned Macarena and that's how I felt about the song too. (Thursday 31 August 2017; 05:39)
Article: Mariah Carey's "new deal" is her old deal, reiterated (74,362)
by jaker20 from US
It's true though. She's released nothing in the last 7 years, or at least something non lambs know about without googling it. It's been trainwreck after trainwreck but fans refuse to accept it for what it is. I think she has no more creativity left, it's all gone down to booze and touching her hair. Surprsing because Madonna had a no.1 when she was in her 40s and Cher her bigger song ever in her 50s. MC needs to realize it's not all about Pamela Anderson-like drama and flings with dudes half her age, she has to deliver too. I'm not even expecting songs with high notes, just proper songs whatever they maybe. MC's problems right now is herself. (Tuesday 11 April 2017; 01:27)
Article: Mariah spends more money on boyfriend Bryan Tanaka (74,101)
by jaker20 from US
We all know how this will end: not well. (Sunday 2 April 2017; 02:15)
Better start than before (53,723)
by jaker20 from US
I agree with Randy, these last performances isn't her best vocals, but I am definitely confident she will endear fans and casual viewers by at least singing live. Some parts are still not live, but better than the last couple of years. If she has to change some of the notes and chords that is alright, than lipping them all. The best part of these performances is singing VOL 100% live at the beginning of Infinity. It reminds everyone that the voice is still there. (Saturday 23 May 2015; 23:52)
Such a corny, increative album cover (51,782)
by jaker20 from US
It is good MC is doing Vegas, because I don't see this album going anywhere saleswise or gaining any fans. MC has lost any or whatever creativity remained in her. She's stuck in this type of tired old album cover. With all her success, she's still unable to break out of her insecure shell. That is a terrible photoshop hack job if you ask me, the same hack job done on MIAMTEC and Memoirs. Come to think of it, her last truly creative effort ("effort" meaning project she actually spent some time thinking) was Emancipation. That is 10 years of fail. Now she's just whatever. Again, I'm glad she's doing Vegas because I see her officially entering the has-been category. I don't see her coming back into mainstream pop again. Therefore she should milk every ounce of whatever lamb remains and serve them with concepts from 20 years ago. (Tuesday 14 April 2015; 1:56)
I like Ratner, big vote for him (51,235)
by jaker20 from US
I hope it's true. I never really liked Nick. I always thought he's a user, loser and social climber. Ratner is more within MC's alley. Surely he's more disciplined otherwise he won't be an accomplished filmmaker. They have also known each other for a long time. Nothing sweeter than ending up with a long time friend who was there through thick and thin. He's also within her age range but he actually looks young for his age. He's also kind of cute, if he loses weight. Nonetheless, he's still much better than a pretentious gym nut like Nick who goes to gym all the time and thinks he's all that. I think he will sort of put MC in her place, but not necessarily control her. If they end up together, it'll be good for MC in my opinion. It might be too soon, but something to think about in the future. (Monday 30 March 2015; 1:09)
Nick Cannon (50,764)
by jaker20 from US
I said it when they got (secretly) married, I said it when they had babies, I said it when MC's career was flopping and I'll say it again now. Nick Cannon is a user and he was in it from the very start. And you all attacked me back then in 2008 and have been called a hater all throughout their marriage, which I always thought was a sham he got MC to buy. There's no love there, just fools who believe he loved her. This man is a social climbing loser. No one knew who he was, and MC was instrumental in getting him ATG and a career at all. Without her, he'd still be a nobody. I guess now you should all give me an award, I can smell a social climbing user from a mile away. (Wednesday 11 March 2015; 1:42)
Re: Whitney Mariah Celine Madonna Janet (50,584)
by jaker20 from US
Here's how I rank them in terms of personal preference based on their overall talent: 1. MC 2. Madonna 3. Celine 4. Whitney 5. Janet In terms of public image, I think both are being ridiculed by the new generation, MC for her lipping and weight, and Madonna for her age. I think Madonna and MC probably have better appreciation of each other now than they did 20 or 10 years ago because they're going through somewhat similar public scrutiny by a generation that is generally not kind of women over 40. Whitney, Celine and MC are very similar vocal divas. But MC one-upped them both for being a hugely successful songwriter. I think Celine is being received by the public better because she really did step back from her career to live a private family life. I think she's going through tough times now with her husband's cancer. Janet's career was permanently damaged by that performance with Justin Timberlake. I think MC will outlive all these women's music catalog, they will stand the test of time longer, especially her Christmas catalog will make her relevant for years even decades. Provided she doesn't completely destroy her legacy with constant lipping and embarrassing appearances which she seem to instill into public memory for generations to mock. Ohterwise, it is better for her to retire. (Tuesday 3 March 2015; 0:49)
MC is stuck (50,437)
by jaker20 from US
MC's image is in the gutter. Eternal 18 demeanor is a turn-off even to 18 year olds. No one respects her. Look at her Breakfast Club interview, she's so shad. It isn't cute anymore, she's 45 years and acts like Paris Hilton circa 1999. In a single interview, she alienated fans of another artist. It could have been an opportunity to gain them. And then there's this other female rapper she didn't get along with. What she needs to do is find other creative outlets. Make more movies, maybe direct one, challenge herself, collab with unlikely artists not with predictable rappers or r&b artists, something unexpected and challenge her art, go out with industry people from other industries. When Streisand was at her age she was directing movies. If you're doing the same thing over and over, you don't grow as a person. And if you don't grow, your art don't grow. Right now she's prepping for Vegas to sing VOL and Fantasy for the millionth time to cash in on her name. The only difference now is she can't sing as good as her own original. MC needs to stop listening to these so-called lambs because they are just as bad as her handlers/enablers who don't tell her the truth. When MC was young, she was fierce, she collabed/performed with people more experienced than her, Aretha, Vandross, Whitney. Now it's just a bunch of predictable nobodies who gain from her instead of her gaining. See artists who collabed with her the last few years and who are now doing better than her. (Thursday 26 February 2015; 22:23)
Re: Baby, and MC1989 (50,385)
by jaker20 from US
[censored] I am replying to the posters who suggest MC should be visible in these awards shows. Which is precisely the point, she can't be in these awards shows because she can't get herself any reason to go. She is not in any movies worth talking about, nor is she in a nominated soundtrack, nor is she willing to give a tribute to someone. I really think you should learn reading comprehension first before you throw any insults. And MC1989, that's also my point. The WYB oscar performance was ok, not great. How is Gaga able to do it, and not two of the greatest voices in history? It should have been a legendary performance by MC because it's her peak. It reminds me of 2006 Grammy's which she partially lipped one of the biggest performance of her career, supposedly her comeback year. MC often crumbles on big stages like these. (Wednesday 25 February 2015; 2:15)
Awards (50,378)
by jaker20 from US
MC is not in awards shows like the Oscars because she's not really often invited. I mean, what is she going to do there? The last few years she's been trying to parlay her music career into movies but the best roles she's had are supporting. She's not really connected in the movie industry. JLo, as bad as you think she is, has been acting since the 90s. They maybe terrible movies, but she is a much more established actress with many hits under her belt, appeared in some classics like Selena and Out Sight and brought in money to movie studios. MC is not. The only way MC will be invited at the Oscars is if she is willing and capable to slay a performance like Gaga did. But her last Oscar performance with Whitney for When You Believe was not very well received, it was shaky and kind of all over the place. She looked like she was very nervous. (Tuesday 24 February 2015; 18:03)
Mariah needs to collaborate (50,069)
by jaker20 from US
It's not about having another no. 1. It's about growing as an artist. And everyone even the greats needs to grow. When they hit their peak, they have nowhere to go but down. But if you climb a different mountain then you have a new peak to climb. MC needs to collab to show she is a team player. Rihanna does not have MC's vocal abilities and songwriting genius. But Rihanna works well with music peers. Like any other professions, sometimes working well with others wins over talent. Talent can only go too far. Your peers up your game and bring you to another level. During her 90s peak, she's fearless with collabing. But now I think MC is a little scared of teaming with major artists. Fear comes with age and insecurity. I mean how can she team with Lady Gaga or Madonna, MC can't dance. How can MC team with Maroon 5? But a true artist finds a way to make things work. MC is so far from over. It is all up to her. How about a duet with Sam Hunt or Luke Bryan to gain country fans. She has to change gears, the 90s pop overstayed its welcome. There's so many creative and musical avenues she can explore. It's not always about another number but just letting creative juices flow. She can only sing VOL so many times. And for the most part she sings it so bad it just reminds comparison to her past glory she can't reach as high. Climb new mountains. (Thursday 12 February 2015; 23:44)
Rihanna (50,037)
by jaker20 from US
Rihanna has nothing but great things to say about MC, calls her voice "freak of nature", and name her as a main influence. Yet some fans are so insecure and defensive when Rihanna's name is brought up. No one says Rihanna is more talented, probably even Rihanna will say that. I mean come on, let's face it, MC played the charts too, just like everybody else, so let's not act as if Rihanna doesn't deserve her accomplishments. What goes around comes around. Honestly, I think this is partly why MC is on downward slope to full-time has-been. MC fans are so spoiled by MC's 90s success. They are nasty against other artists, that MC seem to gain more haters than fans each passing year until she's got no more fans left. And unlike Madonna or Beyonce, it doesn't help that MC doesn't seem to get along with new artists. She's in her own diva-I-am-better-than-everyone world and hardly compliments other artists. Just for full disclosure, I do love Rihanna, but she's nowhere near as talented as MC vocally. But mediocre as Rihanna's voice is, at least she sang 100% live last weekend at the Grammy's. Something I can't say about MC's 2006 Grammy performance, and that was supposedly one of MC's banner years. Yes, time to admit it, MC's peformance of Fly Like A Bird was not 100% live, let's stop fooling ourselves. I love MC but I call it as it is. (Wednesday 11 February 2015; 21:03)
The Grammy's (49,996)
by jaker20 from US
The whole time I'm watching the show, I was thinking of MC. It's so weird. Not because I know MC is more talented than most people in that room, but I also kept thinking that MC has not really given a mind-blowing performance in a big stage such as The Grammy's since 2006 after her TEOM year. I feel MC has really hit rock bottom these past few years. Rihanna was there singing her heart out. She can never touch MC's voice, but she was there singing live and performing. Madonna was there. She arrived and ruled the charts for a full decade before MC, yet she's also outlived MC's career. Beyonce was there, she arrived in the music scene a mere 7 years after MC, yet there she is closing the biggest show in music, nominated for multiple categories and still very much a major player. MC's career is not irreparable, not everything is lost. But it definitely makes me think MC's career sunk faster and sooner than I though it would. (Tuesday 10 February 2015; 3:32)
I can watch MC do this the whole day (49,774)
by jaker20 from US
See, there's no crazy belts there. Some high notes yeah, but not Emotions, VOL high notes which is crazy for anyone even for her. Yeah, sure it's a whole lots of breathy singing, but the vocals are lovely, and her signature whistle is still there. And it's all live. I notice MC can do the whistle notes in her sleep easier, but struggles on sing on high notes. I dont know why that is, I'm not a singer so I don't know why that is the case. But I know MC can pretty much sing like that on the video the whole day and I will watch her. I will not watch her sing VOL, and WTB because I know she will lip it or parts of it. See the difference? Its just set-list collection, singing to the level of her current voice. Some may say, "well, she struggles singing Fantasy whch isn't exactly high notes". Well, it was arrange at a time when she can sing like that, so even if it's not crazy high notes the arrangement is still difficult to sing. I think she'll have another major success if she just fine tune the direction of her career, and leave the high notes singing behind her. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 23:52)
Jamaica Jazz is not just a small concert (49,756)
by jaker20 from US
Someone tried to brush aside this new scandal. FYI, there's no small concert in this age of social media, YouTube and Twitter. This so-called small news is so bad it was on Yahoo front page the other day, it was trending on Twitter, it's on Billboard.com, Entertainment Tonight, ABC among others. MC is full of fresh TMZ-worthy material lately it looks like she is also gunning for Britney's low point years ago. Not to mention it's all over YouTube and Twitter for your babies and your babies' babies to watch for generations. It's as if MC is starting a new musical history of embarrassments so that it can be put into historical record for future generations to mock. The vocalists of the past didn't destroy their legacy this way. Whitney maybe, but it's annotated with her drug problem. MC has no excuse because in case you don't notice, this has been going on for awhile now, all recorded on video. In fact, she's not finished yet, she is still working so has more lip fails to put into YouTube and pop culture's entertainment. Enough. Just enough. Now you see why some MC's fans want her to retire. Because it's painful to watch. I personally don't want her to retire, but I understand, but I understand why some fans feel this way. And even more painful to accept is that the artist you once adored is on a path to destroy that same legacy you once adored. Remember, MC is not yet retired. Is she putting together a greatest hits of embarrassments? (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 17:31)
Changing her catalog (49,755)
by jaker20 from US
I can't stress this enough. Retirement is not the answer. MC just needs to change her catalog. Enough with VOL, WTB and Emotion, songs she can't give justice to anymore. She's just destroying her legacy and the legacy of those songs. She should sing more of her breathy songs, mid-tempo and on lower register. Fans will not like it because they want the big songs and cheer until her demise. But new people will say "oh I've not heard that, that's cool". Madonna does that, she takes risks singing unknown songs in her back catalog. MC is also at that stage now where she should be confident singing unrecognizable songs. They may be unrecognizable and unpopular, but she can at least give them justice, expose her songs to new audience, and she will not be destroying her legacy. MC's whistle is still there, her mid-range is also still very strong. It's the upper register that sounds like she choked on popcorn. She then try to improvise and by doing so, people are reminded "yeah she can't sing that note anymore". What if she sings a song she has not sung live, not hard to sing, and then slay it. That's the way to maintain your legacy and gain new fans. Her voice is no longer the same but it's still better than most. Well then sing songs that fit that new voice, and not songs from the last century, like you don't wear clothes when you were 19 years old. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 17:08)
Las Vegas here we come (49,735)
by jaker20 from US
I knew this was gonna happen, some of you should read up my posts when Vegas was announced. She can't do it. With what we've seen, it's just not physically possible to turn back time. What she needs to do is change her catalog, or stop that Vegas residency completely or she will completely lose what is remaining of her voice once and for all. This Vegas deal with related to her emotional turmoil, to forget her heartbreak. She is listening to yes people behind her. This is not the right way to go. Sure, accuse me for acting like I know MC. But you don't know her either. All we know is that this is not working. Her voice is too fragile. Vegas will be her end. Instead, she should concentrate on recording new material where she is not belting. Will that cost her fans? Most definitely it will. Because fans just want her to belt until her voice is gone. But, she will gain new ones. And at least she will be able to continue to work, because at the rate she's going, the end of her voice and career is fast approaching into one of the most massive career embarrassments of all time. This is why some fans call for her retirement because her decline is so painful to watch. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 7:17)
Kind and soft retirement advice (49,734)
by jaker20 from US
This retirement topic has been brought up long before this - yet another - lip-syncing embarrassment. I've said it before and I'll say it again: MC should stop singing her oldies she can't sing live. She has a big catalog where she doesn't have to belt. Will people recognize the songs? No, maybe not. But that is a better alternative than constantly lipping and backtracking. Because right now, she herself has brought her lip synching into public knowledge. Before, it was just fans who notice it. Now it's practically on the mainstream, not just now, but repeatedly, over and over she expose herself to embarrassment. Then she slays live like the Christmas concert but nobody notice, because her low is so low and embarrassing, no one cares anymore if she's good when she's good. MC doesn't need to retire, she just needs to chance her catalog. People won't recognize the songs, but they will at least appreciate her, she's not destroying her legacy and she's not embarassing herself. Enough is enough with WTB, VOL and those belt songs we all know she's lipping. Her ego can't admit she can't sing them anymore. She's scared no one will sing along to her unknown songs. But that's not true. People will love her more for trying. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 7:09)
No. 1's my ranking (49,303)
by jaker20 from US
Very uneven. MC's epic vocals save them. 18. Thank God I Found You 17. One Sweet Day 16. Hero Here because it's a live-only cover. 15. I'll Be There They all kind of sound the same but great bops. 14. Someday 13. Heartbreaker 12. Fantasy 11. Dreamlover Inspired composition. 10. Touch My Body 09. Always Be My Baby 08. Vision of Love 07. Love Takes Time 06. Honey Genius composition and arrangement. 05. Emotions 04. I Dont Wanna Cry 03. Don't Forget About Us 02. My All 01. We Belong Together (Monday 19 January 2015; 23:39)
Mariah the businesswoman is Vegas? (49,082)
by jaker20 from US
I don't get that reasoning that she has to do Vegas because a lot of mouths depend on her. That is the absolute worst reasoning to do Vegas, because that is a reasoning based on money. And money not even for her sake but for the sake of people around her who pressure her to do it. After her breakdown 13 years ago, I thought she released herself from these sycophants who made her work like a horse for their job security. She should be more mature, secure with her money, and be more comfortable to do what she wants. Like Streisand after her peak. Like Madonna after her peak. I am more concerned about MC than the people around her, because the people around her will overwork her until her voice is shut and they can't take anything from her anymore. Vegas will be the end of MC on radio, charts and TV you can guarantee that. There is absolutely no way she can write and be inspired and record great and inspiring songs while she is in Vegas. It's just not physically possible. Hence the fallen stars who go to Vegas and never recovered. Vegas is an admission that she's no longer a pop musician. And I don't believe that. I believe she has more great music to give. I believe she can still be relevant and have another comeback. She is pushing 50, so every remaining ounce of her voice could be put to better use than Vegas. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 0:30)
