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Angels Advocate (105,836) by T from USA I think timelines get a little mixed up around this period. Mariah had a miscarriage in the fall of 2008. Heartbroken she was encouraged to go back into the studio and create an album, which ended up becoming Memoirs. So by the time the album came out in the fall of 2009, she was on the promotional road for the album. But unfortunately she talked more about her small cameo in the movie Precious, then she did about her new album. The album didn't meet expectations and had a huge budget that did not make the dollars back at the time so the other two versions were shelved, she got pregnant in 2010 and moved on to a Christmas release in the fall of '10. I think letting Angels Advocate go is something we need to do, as if it was good it would've already seen the light of day in some capacity. I've personally heard ten of the fourteen songs and I can undoubtedly say I like the original solo versions better. (Friday 1 March 2024; 22:14) this is a reply to message 105,834

Angels Advocate (105,834) by jaker20 from US If this entire album was released at that time, it would be her massive album streaming, if it was released as planned, which was literally just before Spotify exploded and all those names attached took off. A real missed opportunity, and those songs are most likely sitting in different vaults everywhere. But in fairness to Mariah though, it was a turbulent time for her, with her miscarriage and all. (Friday 1 March 2024; 20:36)

Angels Advocate (105,825) by T from USA Could've been a double disc release, that would've satisfied everyone. I would've loved this track list. Album. Disc 1 1. Betcha Gon' Know 2. Obsessed 3. H.A.T.E.U. 4. Candy Bling 5. Ribbon 6. Inseparable 7. Standing O 8. It's A Wrap 9. Up Out My Face 10. More Than Just Friends 11. The Impossible 12. Angels Cry 13. Languishing 14. I Want To Know What Love Is Disc 2 1. Betcha Gon' Know (ft. R. Kelly) 2. Obsessed (ft. Lil' Wayne) 3. H.A.T.E.U. (ft. OJ Da Juiceman, Big Boi, Gucci Mane) 4. Candy Bling (ft. T-Pain) 5. Ribbon (ft. Ludacris) 6. Inseparable (ft. Trey Songz) 7. Standing O (ft. Rihanna) 8. It's A Wrap (ft. Mary J Blige) 9. Up Out My Face (ft. Nicki Minaj) 10. More Than Just Friends (ft. Drake) 11. The Impossible (ft. Jodeci) 12. Angels Cry (ft. Neyo) 13. My Love (ft. The Dream) 14. Imperfect (ft. Missy Elliot) (Friday 1 March 2024; 14:07) this is a reply to message 105,822

Angels Advocate (105,822) by Bobby A from United States Why didn't L.A. Reid release it? I think it was because he put so much money into that Elle insert that he didn't want another failed MC album release under his leadership. Non-fans were just not feeling Memoirs to justify a remix album. I hope she gives us something in MC16 that will make us happy. (Friday 1 March 2024; 02:33)

Told ya (105,824) by T from USA No, Cardi and Shakira have a new song coming on March 22nd. Cardi's first single for her own album is a solo song. I can't see Mariah releasing anything Cardi related after this high budget Shakira music video drops. That's even if they recorded anything together. Don't believe all the rumors. If we did we would've gotten Mariah with Usher at the halftime show as well. (Friday 1 March 2024; 13:57) this is a reply to message 105,820

Told ya (105,820) by Bobby A from United States Shakira? Really? I would rather JD produced the whole album. (Thursday 29 February 2024; 23:16)

Told ya (105,819) by T from USA Everyone claiming a Cardi song and just giving up on YAR are in for a big surprise as there is no Cardi B collaboration coming this year. She's releasing a song with Shakira on March 22nd and a solo song as well. We as fans need to focus on the things that actually happen like a collaboration with the biggest streaming artist currently in Ariana Grande. Getting YAR into the top 10 would've done wonders for the song and set Mariah up with something new to perform in Vegas. Something current and relevant. We were so close to that credit, so close to a top 10 for our MC. The remix was Mariah's new song to hold us over until Christmas, but most were too busy looking for the next new song. As for me, I'm going to continue to stream Yes, And remix and enjoy the fact that she was on a current track in 2024. (Thursday 29 February 2024; 22:17)

Cardi B (105,785) by T from USA This is why I'm so confused about the lambily. Some of the same people who didn't want her collaborating with Ari and now wanting a Cardi B song. Mariah must be so confused as to who actually is her fanbase and how to sell to them. Personally, I want to hear it all but maybe she should pick a lane and stick to it. If she does go the contemporary route hopefully it will be the last time and then she'll just fully make more mature music like jazz and gospel in her 60's. (Tuesday 27 February 2024; 14:00) this is a reply to message 105,779

Cardi B (105,779) by Bobby A from United States I believe it is going to happen now. The sixth year anniversary of her album Invasion of Privacy is coming up on April 6th. (Tuesday 27 February 2024; 11:57)

TEOM era will probably the last great era (105,775) by T from USA She had three massive blockbuster eras in her whole career. Music Box, Daydream and TEOM. But some of the others would even rival some of today's big stars (debut, Butterfly, Rainbow, E=MC2). So I'm content with her "eras". The industry has changed so much, even since Caution. Honestly, an album only lasts one week now so there is no point even considering it an era in the way we used to look at things. 2008 was the last big era for Mariah Carey. Obsessed and Beautiful gave her some great chart success after that. AIWFCIY is a monster on the charts. I would love one more well thought out project with multiple single releases, music videos and remixes. But I just don't see that happening at this point. I'm glad we got to hear her on a Max Martin track, that was a bucket list item. I guess now we can hope the artist comes through with some jazz, gospel and blues. One can also hope for one more hot hip hop track with Cardi B and also the release of Someone's Ugly Daughter. (Tuesday 27 February 2024; 00:06) this is a reply to message 105,768

TEOM era will probably the last great era (105,768) by Bobby A from United States I am not trying to sound negative, but I believe that the TEOM era will probably be the last great era. The TEOM era made people take notice of MC again. The era had everything that every artist wants: a multiple plantinum album, top charting hit singles, a sold-out tour, gorgeous and well-thought out videos, multiple awards, brillant performances, and magazine covers galore. I don't think the MC16 era or subsequent eras will give us that type of era ever again. (Monday 26 February 2024; 20:58)

Final Billboard placement for YAR (105,749) by T from USA I'm gutted. It did even better than I thought and still missed the top 10 by one spot. It increased 49% from the previous week. One percentage point away from a Mariah credit. Didn't you wonder why her Instagram story she uploaded a short clip of her singing the song in the middle of the week? She badly wanted to get into the top 10 again. She missed it by one spot. I know the lambs and Ari fans contributed to the raise out of curiosity. But I also know after the initial buzz the fans really let them down. Had everyone kept up the momentum for a whole week, MC would be celebrating a new top ten hit in the thirty fourth year of her career. So close. (Sunday 25 February 2024; 14:46)

General public or bad decisions (105,708) by T from USA Matty, do you prefer the west coast of Canada or do you miss Guelf? I've never seen much of Canada. (Saturday 24 February 2024; 13:15) this is a reply to message 105,622

General public or bad decisions (105,622) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Glitter is a masterpiece - I think lambs remember this moment as a failure, but this was the only year Mariah appeared in Forbes list of most powerful women, she did the national anthem at the Super Bowl in 2002 next to the 9/11 statue, she looked gorgeous, and Loverboy was constantly on the radio, on TV music stations, also #2 on Billboard (don't give me the it was discounted argument, because most singles were always discounted and sat in the discount bins at HMV and Music World). I think corporate Virgin panicked more than the public. I love Charmbraclet personally, and in my home town of Guelph Ontario (45 mins south/west of Toronto) "Boy" was on the radio constantly, but for some reason the album wasn't what they wanted as a "comeback" album after 18 months of lows ( ) Why do those few months out of 30 years taint her? I'll never know. Think of all the celebrated singers with issues now, 18 months out of the game or spotlight is nothing, Demi Lovato, Britney, even the beauty that is Selina Gomez, Gaga, Ariana. Maybe it was simply the expectation that year after year for a decade Mariah was ever present and showed up. I have no doubt that's exhausting. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:06)

YAR CD single (105,707) by T from USA The single should have had three songs. The Max Martin pop mix that we got. A reimagined David Morales extended dance mix with even bigger vocals from both girls. And a reimagined So So Def urban remix with whisper vocals. This should've been planned for months before the single release, for the nostalgia. (Saturday 24 February 2024; 13:13)

Yes, and remix ends up at #12 on Hot 100 (105,706) by T from USA The song jumped up from #31 to #12 this coming week. Two spots away from a top ten. Mariah wont be credited. Pop Mariah is no more. (Saturday 24 February 2024; 13:10)

This is what we asked for (105,647) by T from USA Sometimes it's not about what you want. Mariah isn't a puppet that you can control the strings to. If you don't understand what a Top 10 hit on Billboard would mean for Mariah then you really don't know Mariah. Because she's always chosen hits and charts above anything else. I believe deep down inside she's a real musician, a soul artist, but she's very much driven by success. It's the American way. If you want more Mariah you have to give her incentive. Stream and buy. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 17:45) this is a reply to message 105,645

This is what we asked for (105,645) by MusicfanJ from Germany I've never asked or wanted a song or remix with Ariana. I don't like the music from Miss Grande. The same with Cardi B. (even worse). I want real musicians like Jazz/Blues and Soul singers or a band with real instruments. People like James Poyser are also a win. Trends will come and go, but quality music will stay forever. I enjoy the song "Portrait" again lately, I almost get some Stevie Wonder vibes from a part of the melody. Mariah's "You and I" version is heavenly. That's my kind of music. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 16:37)

This is what we asked for (105,646) by T from USA Yes. You can also stream it for free. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 17:43) this is a reply to message 105,643

This is what we asked for (105,643) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands I don't understand your obsession. Do you really expect us to spend loads of money (which all goes to Ariana) just to get the remix in the top 10 of Billboard? (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 14:50)

This is what we asked for (105,641) by T from USA I remember coming to this board for years with people asking for an up tempo Mariah pop song with big vocals. Even Max Martin produced. Some even suggested the impossible, that she's on a track with Ariana Grande. Now we have exactly what everyone has asked for and the success it could find going into the top 10 would be huge. Streaming is easy. Buying is too but this is the day to do it. I've made it easy with two links for us here. Ariana's website and Amazon's new release page. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 13:47)

Keep on streaming (105,639) by T from USA Reminder to stream the remix like never before today. Literally we are so close to a top 10 on Billboard 100 for the upcoming week. It's the difference of one point. If you haven't bought it this is our best chance to see Mariah in the Top 10 without Christmas music. Maybe our last chance. USA buy, stream, request on radio. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 13:30)

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,623) by T from USA That's this past week. We're looking forward to next weeks charts with currently has the song at #11 (one point behind #10). That's why buying the Mariah single if you live in the USA or streaming for the next few days is vital. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:06) this is a reply to message 105,620

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,620) by Bobby A from United States It didn't make the top 10 this week. The original is down to #21. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 00:35)

Amazon Music sales chart (105,616) by T from USA Early today the remix was at tenth spot in the new release section and 56th in total song sales. Then it went up to #7 in new releases and #36 in total song sales. In the last hour it's dropped back to #9 in new releases and #60 in total song sales. We can definitely bring these numbers up at Amazon Music. Let's go get em. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 19:27)

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,615) by T from USA You're right. It's up to Billboard at this point. But we can really sway their decision by helping it get one more point this week and re-enter the Top 10. So today everyone buy the remix from Ari's site and Amazon and iTunes. And stream stream stream for the next few days. Stay triumphant keep on living. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 19:23) this is a reply to message 105,613

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,613) by jaker20 from US We don't know. It's going to be very very close. The remix should have more points than the original for her to get credit. Both versions together, it is at no.11 and went +49%. Assuming the original dropped like it did last week, then the remix portion of that should be more than 50% already, giving Mariah credit at this point already. There is no way the original went up after the remix is released, unless there is some shady stuff going on behind the scenes. The 3 new remixes released by Ariana's team complicates it slightly, but it's not doing any numbers currently. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 17:43)

Guys don't forget Amazon (105,611) by T from USA You can get the single here on Amazon Music. They tally their sales right at the end of the chart week and often offer a good surprise to the artists for the chart. This might be the place that Yes, And remix finds its biggest sales success. Order it today. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 17:02)

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,610) by T from USA I agree, but we still have a chance. Those new dance mixes will keep points from the original one lower as less people will be checking on the OG these next few days. We can still do our Mariah part. We are literally one Billboard "point" away from Top 10. And we know the song has to have risen a jump of over 50% from last week. Right now it's at a 48% jump from last week. So let's go all out today and tomorrow. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 16:56) this is a reply to message 105,604

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,604) by jaker20 from US Its seems like it's now just 1%. It's going to be very close to get her credited. That 3 new remixes released by Ariana's team was very very trashy behavior on the same day they found out that its going to be close. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 15:05)

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,609) by T from USA Well right now, as of their prediction is the song will come in at #11 with a 48% increase from last weeks chart placement. We know that an over 50% increase automatically gives the remix a new credit. So by getting it into the top 10 this week will mean it did go over 50% of an increase from last week, hence the credit. But we only really have today to Thursday morning to do it. So stream now like never before. Buy the remix single off Airana's website. Because next week we know it's going down. This week is the best chance for a Top 10. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 16:53) this is a reply to message 105,608

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,608) by Tevin from USA Ok so I'm confused, if the OG reaches the top ten, does Mariah get credit or no? Some people say yes, some say no. I'm confused, how does this all work? How can a remix overtake an OG song? (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 15:30)

Buy the single here today (105,602) by T from USA Here is the link to the physical single. Collectors item. It's only $1.99 but can help so much today. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 13:58)

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,601) by T from USA If you download the iTunes app. Or on your computer go to the iTunes website, you can purchase the song for a dollar. You have to put in your credit card number. The song will automatically go into a folder in your iTunes app called "my library". It's really simple if you try. You can also buy it from Amazon, just make sure it's the remix version. It's right on the edge of being #11 on the Hot 100, and being #10. Predictions have it at #11 missing the top 10 by literally one point. So we can push the needle today with more sales, more streams. Today's the day. Go get em. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 13:56) this is a reply to message 105,595

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,595) by Tameka walker from United states I love Mariah but no one has taught me how to download. Back in the day when she put something out I would just go to the record store and buy it and so forth I was was the first one there to get it. I wish it was still that way or else I would have bought it and more than one copy to help her since I love her. Now the music business wants people to download and not everyone including me knows how to download music. I would love to learn. I will stream it. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 01:25)

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,591) by T from USA Billboard Hot 100 predictions are hot of the press and it looks like the remix has pushed the song to #11 on the Hot 100. Only one point from the top 10. It's also gained 48% since last week. Over 50% gains will get Mariah a credit. It would also give it the top 10 spot. So USA fans need to buy this, now, stream it like never before. Spotify, YouTube, Apple, Amazon, iTunes. Remember with streaming you have to switch songs in between for each individual streaming to count. But if it picks up a little more in the next two days Mariah could actually have a hit on her hands. It's now or never. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 00:20)

It just occured to me (105,589) by T from USA Correct. Everyone has been pleading with Mariah to do an uptempo song in full voice, belting with all the bells and whistles. She answered that call for everyone and look what it got her. It's the biggest flop thing she's been attached to since Triumphant. At least Triumphant got some play. Anyone who expects Mariah to do this kind of music again or remixes of any nature are in for a big shock. I don't actually expect an album at all this year after this. At least I hope not. What kind of record label is seriously going to take a chance on her. Dismal sales, no radio or streaming. It would be too much work to have a successful project. Probably not even possible at this point. Look at independent artist Usher for example. He had a Halftime performance and still only sold 81k in his first week. If YAR was a smash hit and her remix brought it back to #1, then people would take notice, but not this. This is the worst thing for MC right now. I think she should take five years away after MC30th anniversary later this year. Come back at the end of the decade with something completely unexpected. Fresh, new but true to her. She's basically only got one more in her so she might as well take all the time she needs and do it 100 percent right. A Cher Believe situation. (Monday 19 February 2024; 23:35) this is a reply to message 105,587

It just occured to me (105,587) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Ugh unfortunately. In 2018 I didn't even think they'd ever collaborate. Forget #1 at this point, I was hoping for a good chart placement, but it looks like Ariana's team has abandoned ship, because they're releasing new remixes of the OG version and I haven't seen a single new post promoting the collaboration since Day 1. I feel like the excitement was definitely there when they announced, but a few things lead to it just being another missed opportunity. (1) Ariana's current reputation of a homewrecker and yes, and? being taken as a "I'm a home wrecker, yes, and?" (2) People not feeling Mariah belting. (3) There wasn't much promo after first day. (4) Mariah doesn't have much streaming pull and the song would have been dependent on Ariana's huge streaming pull, but Ariana is going through a slump. (5) People thinking this song isn't Mariah's type. (6) The song had already peaked and was free falling, so hopping on the remix didn't really make the "shock" impact of the MC-AG that their teams were hoping for. Makes me sad that it looks like all MC's new eras are staying relevant for like what on average 24 hours. I feel like a few live performances, little videos of why they collaborated or how they landed on this song to collab and all would have added to the hype, also of course a replayable MV. But I guess that's a wrap. I was reading somewhere that they messaged a radio station regarding why the station was playing the remix instead of the original, but the station said they weren't sent the remix. So honestly it's just sad that these era's are getting shorter with every release. (Monday 19 February 2024; 21:50)

No, but (105,568) by T from USA Worst case scenario. The song tanked off the Spotify top 200 in two days. People do not enjoy this song. We know how Mariah reacts when something bombs this bad. She will go in a completely different direction. Distance herself from this sound which means Max Martin no more. Dance music no more. Upbeat music with belting no more. Hoping on a younger artist's song no more. It's going to be slow beat ballads going forward lol. (Monday 19 February 2024; 15:03)

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