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About TJ from Norway: I've been a fan since she released Vision of Love in 1990. Insta: tony2909

Sugar Sweet video clip (110,257) by TJ from Norway Was that the video? With the Macarena moves? I hoped that was something she just made for fun (and filmed by her kids). (Thursday 31 July 2025; 15:10) this is a reply to message 110,238

Sugar Sweet video clip (110,238) by Jamie from UK So Mariah has shown a clip of the new [Sugar Sweet] video. What you guys think? She loves a stairway I'll give her that, remember I Don't. I love the ensemble, she looks really nice. I just wish her face would show it too, she looks miserable, she looked happier in the kitchen clip she did. There's a part in the video where her eyes go to the left like she's looking for direction, it's a poor edit if that's gonna be in the final video. She looks nice, I just don't think it's going to rescue the song. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 08:55)

Sugar Sweet YouTube reviews (110,256) by TJ from Norway Remember that the reviews on YouTube are made by crazy fans that love everything she does. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 15:05) this is a reply to message 110,236

Sugar Sweet YouTube reviews (110,236) by Dove from United States I just spent the last hour watching YouTube reviews on Sugar Sweet and all the ones I've watched so far seem to love the song. So maybe I'm wrong. Also, I found my Bose speaker and I can hear the boom more on that speaker. People were saying the high parts (that I think sound strained) sounded "raw" and they love it. I guess we'll see how it does. All the reviewers I watched I didn't know, I just searched "Sugar Sweet" reviews and followed the trail. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 06:11)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,179) by TJ from Norway I have never had a problem with Mariah doing black music. Never. I never knew it was about colour. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:48) this is a reply to message 110,159

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,159) by Terna from Nigeria You get it, and I'm glad you addressed it from this angle, I just didn't want to get into it. Part of the main problem "OG's" have is Mariah's leaning towards black music and succeeding at it too - R&B/Hiphop specifically. That's why they will always have a problem with this "New Mariah", so to speak, because that Tommy version was molded to cater to a white audience. Let's call it as it is. However, that's not the real her, never really was to begin with - check "Vision of Love", that's a singer who's main and only influence is black music, gospel, R&B and hip-hop (check the debut album, isn't she rapping on "Prisoner"). What's mind boggling about these OG fans is that new Mariah (true Mariah) has now been out so to speak, much longer (all caps) than hairbangs Mariah (Music Box and Daydream) and she has pretty much remained the same since, yet they're still hooked on the curated Tommy's vision of her and think that somehow, someday she's gonna go back to pop and that image. Smh. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 05:12)

Article: The making of Mariah Carey (110,173) by TJ from Norway The first picture. Wow. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:18)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,125) by TJ from Norway "Maybe when I'm an old lady and my own boobs sag like tube socks down to the floor, I'll appreciate looking at other people's perky ones on the TV more." Haha. I just love the expression. And agree with the rest of the message. Well written. (Monday 28 July 2025; 09:58) this is a reply to message 110,115

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,115) by Dove from United States For sure we all change and for sure there will never be another artist like Mariah Carey ever again. It's just jarring sometimes because she seems like a completely different person. It's as if Taylor Swift suddenly turned into Madonna. We're all here still supporting, buying the albums, and streaming the songs. We're still fans but this is a message board where fans share their thoughts, ideas, grief, joy, whatever. I don't feel like anyone is being disrespectful and Mariah is going to keep doing whatever she damn well pleases because she can. She's the artist. And we're all going to come back here and talk about it and reminisce about the old times. I remember when MOAIA came out I didn't automatically love it and now it's one of my favorites. Maybe in 10 years Sugar Sweet will be my favorite MC song. Just because I'm a little prudish and uncomfortable with boobs out right now doesn't mean I'll always feel that way. Maybe when I'm an old lady and my own boobs sag like tube socks down to the floor, I'll appreciate looking at other people's perky ones on the TV more.. I'm half kidding but half not. (Monday 28 July 2025; 02:09)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,124) by TJ from Norway I don't think anyone said that they hasn't changed over the years, but it's about how much can a person change, and in my opinion the wrong way? As some of the other goats here said: Mariah 1990-1996 or something will always be the real Mariah to me. (Monday 28 July 2025; 09:49) this is a reply to message 110,101

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,101) by Zachariah from Croatia Hm, let's put it down like this; go back 30 years (this is for lambs who are following Mariah from day one) and try to remember yourself back then. Done? Ok. Now see yourself today. Somehow I doubt that you all are the same person. Because I am not. I was gullible, shy, very introverted, afraid to say something and just followed others. Today, I am unrecognizable. She is still a nice person and our Mariah - who gets her, gets her. Who doesn't, doesn't. (Sunday 27 July 2025; 00:19)

Jimmy Kimmel (110,054) by TJ from Norway The internet claims that Fortune Feimster is 5 feet 8 inches tall, wearing flat shoes and still towering Mariah. Strange. (Friday 25 July 2025; 16:24) this is a reply to message 110,051

Jimmy Kimmel (110,051) by Lighty from China Not familiar with the interviewer lady but she kinda gave me a Rosie vibe, but a discount version of Rosie if you know what I mean. Mariah seems to be much more lively and responsive than in her other recent interviews, which is a good thing. Dress is not bad but I think they could've done better with the whole styling but hey, it is what it is. (Friday 25 July 2025; 16:06)

Sugar Sweet (110,032) by TJ from Norway I'm not sure what I think. It's too much head voice in the beginning for my taste. The song works ok from the second verse. But much better than the horrible AI version presented by Eddie. After playing it on repeat for like 30 minutes, I enjoy it a little bit more than what I wrote above. Sweet sound, but no number one. Unlike some people, I do not think she will get another #1 Hot 100, but that's ok. (Friday 25 July 2025; 10:11)

Image over substance (109,984) by TJ from Norway I agree with all you said. As you said about the walls, I think she spend too much time listening to her old music and that doesn't give her new ideas or inspiration. As Cher said when the interviewer asked her about listening to her own music, she was like "No, I'm not a big Cher fan." I have got the impression that MC is a big Mariah Carey fan. She obviously hate aging, and I believe she is obsessed about looking perfect at all time, also on stage (look at her performances in 1990-91 and compare the facial expressions then and now/or the early 2000). Some people call her a vampire because it looks like she's not aging, I would love if she didn't put all that poison in her face and rather aged naturally with grace and style. It's too much plastic now. (Thursday 24 July 2025; 09:32) this is a reply to message 109,970

Image over substance (109,970) by ADAM from USA My issue with MC for the last decade or so has been she's super obsessed with her physical image - she is afraid of aging and always recreating the past. What made all her imagery great in the 90s was that it was natural, not contrieved and shot by masters of their craft. Seeing her imitate the past just reeks desperation and lazy. You get the feeling her house is labeled head to toe with all her album booklet imagery. I would have less of an issue if I felt like she would put as much effort into recorded music. I remain hopeful for new music however the small snippet of here for it all sounds really chipmunk and sliced several times to piece together one syllable. Tell me this with a callous heart I'm just trying to articulate that I think she would benefit from putting the mirror down and start putting pen of paper and work on her vocal recovery. I think she's a victim of too much cosmetic surgery and too many mirrors in the house. (Thursday 24 July 2025; 02:00)

Webmaster request (109,953) by TJ from Norway Why do you bring so much bad vibes to the table? (Wednesday 23 July 2025; 15:56) this is a reply to message 109,951

Webmaster request (109,951) by Lambi from USA I really don't think anyone ever had to be silenced because of you, Stacey. Honestly you kind of just echo and applause Eric's post all the time it's actually entertaining. Do you actually ever have an original thought? Genuinely curious. (Wednesday 23 July 2025; 13:51)

Type: Dangerous (109,895) by TJ from Norway And Without You sound so much better on the radio. I miss the days when she released that music. Her voice was like an angel. (Tuesday 22 July 2025; 00:46) this is a reply to message 109,877

Type: Dangerous (109,877) by MusicfanJ from Germany Today on "my" station they were playing "Without you". It still amazes me, when I hear the first few seconds of the piano and then the magic happens. The radio-man said an absolute classic and wonderful version by Mariah. So true. (Monday 21 July 2025; 16:56)

9/26 (109,871) by TJ from Norway Here for it all. No sweet sugar. (Monday 21 July 2025; 16:03)

The problem with Brad and hating ass hoes (109,816) by TJ from Norway I guess it's a sun stroke. I really, really don't understand anything. But then again, I used to be blonde (before my hair decided to leave me). Peace. (Saturday 19 July 2025; 02:04) this is a reply to message 109,811

The problem with Brad and hating ass hoes (109,811) by Stacey from USA If you figure out what it is, can you let me know, lol? (Friday 18 July 2025; 17:23)

The problem with Brad and hating ass hoes (109,807) by TJ from Norway I've been here since the beginning. I need to scroll down on the board to understand what this is about. (Friday 18 July 2025; 13:52) this is a reply to message 109,801

The problem with Brad and hating ass hoes (109,801) by Brad from USA This board has gotten very, very nasty and unfriendly. Truth is, I have been on this site and board longer than ALL of you. But your reaction has shown, the people I enjoyed speaking with in 1998 are no longer here and, for good reason, I do not enjoy speaking with the people now on this board. See ya. (Friday 18 July 2025; 02:18)

New snippet (109,781) by TJ from Norway I hope you're right, but I think Bill is closest to the truth. She has taken the safe turn for years, and it's like that for most of the people in the music industry. With TD I was so thirsty for something new, that I swallowed the song for a day or two, but it was soon forgotten. I do agree that the lyrics doesn't fit her age or the style I wished for, but I'm not the one making the songs or decisions. I don't think a lot of teenagers will discover her music and think of her as brilliant or fresh. It's us, the middle aged fans, that listen to her music, and I find those kind of lyrics a little immature and not artistically deep or clever. So, let's hope you're right B. (Thursday 17 July 2025; 10:04) this is a reply to message 109,776

New snippet (109,776) by Bobby A from United States It is beautiful. She still has that beautiful tone. MC is coming for us. I don't think we are going to get the same old album formula, but something new and earth shattering. (Thursday 17 July 2025; 03:36)

New snippet (109,779) by TJ from Norway I was shocked to see her without heels. (Thursday 17 July 2025; 08:14) this is a reply to message 109,775

New snippet (109,775) by Haiji from United States MC just posted an acapella moment of what could possibly be her new song. (Thursday 17 July 2025; 02:26)

Mariah's top 5 summer songs (109,726) by TJ from Norway 1. Honey 2. I'll be loving u long time 3. #Beautiful 4. Always be my baby 5. Dreamlover How about you? (Monday 14 July 2025; 13:44)

Unpopular opinions (109,724) by TJ from Norway I thought it was VOL they wanted for Whitney. (Monday 14 July 2025; 08:08) this is a reply to message 109,718

Unpopular opinions (109,718) by Bill from the UK You're right there was a bidding war to sign her between Warners and, as it was back then, CBS records. When the "demo tape incident" happened at the party Brenda K Starr took her to, MC was already in negotiations with WB. I've no idea what numbers each party threw in, but all Mariah ever said about it was that it was CBS allowing her to write her own songs that sealed it for her. I think they could have even offered less money and she still would have gone with them on that element alone. Clive Davis actually tried to buy the song Someday for Whitney, it was then that Mariah realised she could indeed write a good pop song and rather than selling it (as tempting as it was for a young girl "without a penny to her name") she retained it for herself and it gave her even more determination to become an artist in her own right. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 18:33)

New album (109,723) by TJ from Norway Isn't that the one time they did it right? Every detail was planned from outfits, music, videos and so on. It's been messy most of the time after that. (Monday 14 July 2025; 08:05) this is a reply to message 109,715

New album (109,715) by Haiji from United States I'm trying to remember if the rollout to Mimi was like this era. Was it like this when ILT was dropped? (Sunday 13 July 2025; 17:48)

New album (109,722) by TJ from Norway I remember being sure that IBLULT would go to number one. I loved that sound. It was clearly, just me. (Monday 14 July 2025; 08:01) this is a reply to message 109,710

New album (109,710) by MusicfanJ from Germany I love "For the record". For me it's the best song of the album. E=MC2 is really the perfect summer album. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 12:14)

Unpopular opinions (109,665) by TJ from Norway I don't like OSD, never have and never will. I can't understand why it went to number one, and stayed there for weeks. It's not an evergreen. I don't like the diva and "I don't know her" acts. I think Jennifer is being the bigger person and much more likeable. I think of Mariah as a singer, not a songwriter. I do not see what's so genius about her lyrics. I know that many of you guys think she is. Glitter, the movie should have been enough proof to Mariah to never try to act again. She can't act and when she does it's just showing her diva side again. It's like Lindsay Lohan. No emotions. I don't think we should pay too much attention to the mobile phone videos of her concerts on YouTube. I believe that if we went back in time and did that to her concerts on the early 90's we would also hear a lot of faults. I feel sad for all of you that doesn't pay attention to the albums that made her the star she is today. Without those albums you would never know her and maybe be writing on the JLo Archives instead. (Thursday 10 July 2025; 09:29) this is a reply to message 109,657

Unpopular opinions (109,657) by Haiji from United States Regarding only songs or albums, what are some unpopular opinions you all got? "Hero" still hasn't grown on me yet. "Thank God I Found You" was not #1 worthy and based on how many song I listen to from each album, Caution is my least favorite. (Wednesday 9 July 2025; 16:34)

MC16 Album title (109,641) by TJ from Norway Lambs and Goats. (Sunday 6 July 2025; 10:17) this is a reply to message 109,639

MC16 Album title (109,639) by Stacey from USA Me, I Wrote That: Songwriter Supreme. (Sunday 6 July 2025; 01:59)

One Heart, One Voice (109,568) by TJ from Norway I had a nine hours long drive yesterday and was listening to the Barbra song and many others including Whitney's I Look To You. Both of them got this metallic sound in their voices at that point in their careers. As you said, she will never tell us the truth of what happened. (Wednesday 2 July 2025; 08:44) this is a reply to message 109,563

One Heart, One Voice (109,563) by Bill from the UK As I said before, chill out for a change. You'll notice you've made a bit of a fool of yourself as I didn't say I could, although I can sing "the way, hey" from Hero without needing backing tracks, backing singers, auto cues, lip syncing, lighting, and an army of men to navigate me across the stage. I'd direct you to this really good platform called YouTube. From there, type in the search box "Mariah Carey cover/karaoke" or words to that effect. You'll be presented with an almost inexhaustible list of unprofessional singers, amateurs, and hobbyists who can carry the tune of Hero just as well as Mariah did back in 1993. Mariah *was* one of the greatest vocalists of a generation, but sadly isn't any longer. How or why that happened will only ever be speculation because she herself will not come clean about what happened to her voice, and continues this masquerade of being this phenomenally good singer when she simply isn't any more. If you genuinely can't see that, then you are just another delusional yass queen who has no place in the fandom, as you're part of the problem as much as she is, for continuing on the facade. (Tuesday 1 July 2025; 20:49)

Lullaby of Birdland* (109,536) by TJ from Norway That would be nice. I love that idea. I just hope she finds the keys to that vault. It's been some time now. (Monday 30 June 2025; 01:06) this is a reply to message 109,528

Lullaby of Birdland* (109,528) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia Just a random question about this song. In 2013 when Mariah was about to release The Art of Letting Go album, the tracklisting that leaked had this song on it together with You're Mine, You Don't Know What, Supernatural etc, so I know that leak was legit. Then the album was postponed and this song was not on the album but Mariah performed it on her tour in 2014. Later this song was released as live version taken from her concert on The Rarities. So my question is, do you think Mariah had a hidden album version of this song somewhere in the vault? It would be nice to hear a studio version. (Sunday 29 June 2025; 16:06)

One Heart, One Voice (109,504) by TJ from Norway I'm more like: the voice, the arrangement and then the lyrics. Always been like that. Am I the only one? (Friday 27 June 2025; 21:18) this is a reply to message 109,495

One Heart, One Voice (109,495) by Randy from USA I don't like it. Here's the thing. I knew it would be a ballad from the 90s. I knew it would feel "crowded". And I do think it's genius how he interchanged them throughout the verses. I am a Mariah Carey fan and what's most important to me is a lyric. Then the vocal. Then the arrangement. The lyrics are both banal and generic. It's not a song that needed to be written. It's been written before. I feel as though this is one of the songs sung before a Super Bowl national anthem with young girls from around the world tryna count steps with lame choreography. It belongs at the end of a really bad movie where the credits are more entertaining than the plot. My favorite person on this board woke me up out my sleep with a text for this? It's just Another Trite Hope Song rackin my brain like crazy. (Friday 27 June 2025; 16:40)

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