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About TJ from Norway: I've been a fan since she released Vision of Love in 1990. Insta: tony2909

One Heart, One Voice (109,568) by TJ from Norway I had a nine hours long drive yesterday and was listening to the Barbra song and many others including Whitney's I Look To You. Both of them got this metallic sound in their voices at that point in their careers. As you said, she will never tell us the truth of what happened. (Wednesday 2 July 2025; 08:44) this is a reply to message 109,563

One Heart, One Voice (109,563) by Bill from the UK As I said before, chill out for a change. You'll notice you've made a bit of a fool of yourself as I didn't say I could, although I can sing "the way, hey" from Hero without needing backing tracks, backing singers, auto cues, lip syncing, lighting, and an army of men to navigate me across the stage. I'd direct you to this really good platform called YouTube. From there, type in the search box "Mariah Carey cover/karaoke" or words to that effect. You'll be presented with an almost inexhaustible list of unprofessional singers, amateurs, and hobbyists who can carry the tune of Hero just as well as Mariah did back in 1993. Mariah *was* one of the greatest vocalists of a generation, but sadly isn't any longer. How or why that happened will only ever be speculation because she herself will not come clean about what happened to her voice, and continues this masquerade of being this phenomenally good singer when she simply isn't any more. If you genuinely can't see that, then you are just another delusional yass queen who has no place in the fandom, as you're part of the problem as much as she is, for continuing on the facade. (Tuesday 1 July 2025; 20:49)

Lullaby of Birdland* (109,536) by TJ from Norway That would be nice. I love that idea. I just hope she finds the keys to that vault. It's been some time now. (Monday 30 June 2025; 01:06) this is a reply to message 109,528

Lullaby of Birdland* (109,528) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia Just a random question about this song. In 2013 when Mariah was about to release The Art of Letting Go album, the tracklisting that leaked had this song on it together with You're Mine, You Don't Know What, Supernatural etc, so I know that leak was legit. Then the album was postponed and this song was not on the album but Mariah performed it on her tour in 2014. Later this song was released as live version taken from her concert on The Rarities. So my question is, do you think Mariah had a hidden album version of this song somewhere in the vault? It would be nice to hear a studio version. (Sunday 29 June 2025; 16:06)

One Heart, One Voice (109,504) by TJ from Norway I'm more like: the voice, the arrangement and then the lyrics. Always been like that. Am I the only one? (Friday 27 June 2025; 21:18) this is a reply to message 109,495

One Heart, One Voice (109,495) by Randy from USA I don't like it. Here's the thing. I knew it would be a ballad from the 90s. I knew it would feel "crowded". And I do think it's genius how he interchanged them throughout the verses. I am a Mariah Carey fan and what's most important to me is a lyric. Then the vocal. Then the arrangement. The lyrics are both banal and generic. It's not a song that needed to be written. It's been written before. I feel as though this is one of the songs sung before a Super Bowl national anthem with young girls from around the world tryna count steps with lame choreography. It belongs at the end of a really bad movie where the credits are more entertaining than the plot. My favorite person on this board woke me up out my sleep with a text for this? It's just Another Trite Hope Song rackin my brain like crazy. (Friday 27 June 2025; 16:40)

We Belong Together (109,441) by TJ from Norway I didn't like DFAU when it was released, because it reminded me of WBT. But the public did, and that was nice. It's one of her number ones I never understood why ended up that high on the charts. (Monday 23 June 2025; 15:22) this is a reply to message 109,433

We Belong Together (109,433) by MusicfanJ from Germany Yes, "We belong together" was perfect for 2005 but I'm not looking for another version of it. "Don't forget about us" sounds so simlilar and was fine, but no more of it for the new album please. (Sunday 22 June 2025; 16:41)

We Belong Together (109,429) by TJ from Norway I totally agree with you. I really hope for something new and different than that song. (Saturday 21 June 2025; 14:33) this is a reply to message 109,425

We Belong Together (109,425) by TheWind from England I personally don't think Mariah needs another WBT moment. I think that she has been chasing another WBT moment since 2005, and that has held her back. We had DFAU, ISIL, and Angels Cry. We need her to continue on the trajectory of working with new people, who can continue to inspire her creatively. Just my opinion, but we already have WBT and its knock offs. We don't need any more. (Saturday 21 June 2025; 09:43)

New album (109,410) by TJ from Norway I'm old, I'm blonde, and I forget a lot. Anyone who knows when the album will be released? (Thursday 19 June 2025; 18:20)

Mariah, on fire (109,213) by TJ from Norway I really don't understand why she feel the need to high heels like that. Isn't she tall enough as it is? And yes, she doesn't look like she's soon 60. That's for sure. (Tuesday 10 June 2025; 14:05) this is a reply to message 109,212

Mariah, on fire (109,212) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Ok so BETs. Tell me why this woman looks like she's still in her early 30s. She looked absolutely breathtakingly stunning and every bit the mega star she is clad in that gorgeous gold mini dress fit for the music industry's golden girl. I liked that she was more playful with the performance, I do wish she wore more comfortable shoes so that she had the confidence to strut around by herself and strut onto the stage during the opening of the song it would have made it more fierce but I see her trying and I'll take it. I absolutely loved her second look too, she looked so angelic and pure and her speech was amazing. The little humor, her embracing her diva and extraness. This is a new Mariah era not just album wise but personally too. I also hear her team discounted the song right after BETs a smart move. I'm liking how her team is handling her so far. The roll out of this era has been amazing. I can't wait for the video. (Tuesday 10 June 2025; 13:04)

Friday 13th (109,200) by TJ from Norway The spooky release date for the music video. Let's hope it is Mariah's lucky number. (Monday 9 June 2025; 21:31)

Confirmed: Mariah is making history (109,137) by TJ from Norway Well she missed out on her last album, but then again. It was just about the lyrics. I'm glad that this song has potential, but I also believe she said some years ago that she doesn't think about how the chats are going. (Friday 6 June 2025; 23:15) this is a reply to message 109,111

Confirmed: Mariah is making history (109,111) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I hope this shuts down people who think Mariah isn't chasing chart success anymore and is just making music for fun or for fans. Chart success is what has been driven into Mariah since she was a teen signed on to Sony. She doesn't know any different. She is rightfully proud of her chart accolades and I am happy to see her openly just say that she wants that 20th and 21st #1. I like the new vocal Mariah that isn't afraid to voice her mind. (Friday 6 June 2025; 15:19)

Type Dangerous (109,105) by TJ from Norway This beat is much better than ILT in my opinion. The bass is heavy. (Friday 6 June 2025; 14:30) this is a reply to message 109,099

Type Dangerous (109,099) by Musti from UK I think this is her strongest first single since ILT. It took me a couple of listens to find the vibe but now that I have I can't listen to anything else. The tune is absolutely addictive. I'm living for her confidence and sass. Plus I have a feeling this is a "reminder" single like ILT. There's something much bigger coming. (Friday 6 June 2025; 13:01)

I love it (109,092) by TJ from Norway Not a shower? Lol. I really like the beat. (Friday 6 June 2025; 11:31) this is a reply to message 109,074

I love it (109,074) by jaker20 from US It's a grower. (Friday 6 June 2025; 06:25)

Type Dangerous (109,091) by TJ from Norway I like the sound and rhythm. If there's one thing I would have done differently is the intro. That didn't do anything good to the song. I feel this one will be played a lot on my speakers. Well done MC. (Friday 6 June 2025; 11:29)

Financial terrorism (109,054) by TJ from Norway Does that mean that Taylor Swift will disappear from the spotlight soon? (Thursday 5 June 2025; 17:33) this is a reply to message 109,044

Financial terrorism (109,044) by Lambi from USA Thank you, darling - I truly appreciate your response. I do try to stay aware of what's happening. I'm not trying to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I genuinely believe Morgan is a plant, and we should be cautious. He's shown time and again that he'll do just about anything for a quick payout. Mariah is at a stage in her career where her success is not only undeniable - it's powerful. She confirmed a couple of years ago that she owns all of her masters: 86 singles and 15 studio albums, dating back to 1990. That level of ownership is incredibly rare, especially for someone who's not just the voice, but also the writer and producer. She's earning real revenue from her catalog, and that kind of power makes her a threat to certain people. We've seen a similar pattern before. When Michael Jackson began acquiring ownership of his music - and even the rights to other artists' catalogs - it triggered serious pushback from powerful forces. It wasn't subtle, and it wasn't fair. I wouldn't be surprised if Mariah ends up facing similar tactics. It's something we should all be paying close attention to. (Thursday 5 June 2025; 13:41)

Bill (109,015) by TJ from Norway It's always fun to see how some people are going crazy for a short time, before they disappear again, or watching fans change their voice over the years. We need opinions like yours and Bills. Stay strong. (Wednesday 4 June 2025; 10:11) this is a reply to message 109,003

Bill (109,003) by Edward from USA Some people seriously need to get off their high horse. Bill is an appreciated member of this board. When he stepped away for a while, a lot of us genuinely missed him. A bunch of us have been here for over a decade. We've supported Mariah through her ups and downs, bought the music, defended her when it counted, and yes, we've also kept it real when needed. We've seen plenty of people come and go, showing up with loud opinions and disappearing just as fast. Some may not like what Bill said, but no one here gets to question his or anyone else's place fandom. If for some of you the idea of being a fan means clapping for everything and pretending everything's perfect all the time, that's not what this board is about. And if hearing a different opinion is too much for you, you might want to grab a helmet, it's 2025. I've said it before: one of the reasons this board has lasted over 20 years is because it's always allowed for different opinions. Not just blind praise, but real talk too. That's what keeps it interesting. Every time this place turns into an echo chamber, it just dies out. And yeah, sometimes we get frustrated and show a little tough love. But that's only because we know what Mariah is capable of. That doesn't mean we don't love her or support her any less. I actually appreciate reading different opinions, even ones I don't agree with. That back and forth is what makes this board work. It's not a fan club where everyone's forced to say the same thing. Bill, you've been part of this board for years, and most of us really value what you bring. Don't even think about disappearing. (Tuesday 3 June 2025; 19:46)

MC16 wish list (109,014) by TJ from Norway I wish for that too. That would have been fabulous. I remember when I heard Vanishing for the first time, back in 1990. I was playing it over and over and it still remains one of my favourite songs. Pure, clean and real. (Wednesday 4 June 2025; 10:08) this is a reply to message 109,005

MC16 wish list (109,005) by Randy from USA Well, I know it ain't gonna happen but since I have a little extra time. I'd like an Adele-like album. No rap. No r&b. No vocal layering. No wall of background singers. Just her and piano or her and guitar. Some love songs mixed in with some hope songs mixed in with some introspective songs. Imagine a quiet album with songs as stripped down as Languishing, Close My Eyes, My All, With You, Camouflage, Vanishing, Music Box, Looking In, Reflections, Petals, Cry, Portrait. And for the voice. Maybe keep it down to what can be replicated live even if the venue is too cold, too hot, missing an umbrella holder, short circuits ear monitors, has no running water for humidifiers, only let you in with less than 7 hours sleep. And only use the whistle twice. Yeah, that would be a dope album. (Tuesday 3 June 2025; 20:34)

Show some humanity (108,991) by TJ from Norway But should we make the criteria on who is real and not? (Tuesday 3 June 2025; 10:47) this is a reply to message 108,985

Show some humanity (108,985) by Zachariah from Croatia "A real fan knows." What does she means when she says in interviews or during concerts "my real fans know etc etc"? (Tuesday 3 June 2025; 07:50)

Show some humanity (108,975) by TJ from Norway What is a real fan? (Monday 2 June 2025; 21:31) this is a reply to message 108,970

Show some humanity (108,970) by MC85 from Canada I am so grateful that you took the time and the love and the fortitude to write and post this, especially on this board. Beautifully written. "I couldn't have said it better" isn't enough. *It couldn't be said better.* Period. You're the kind of true fan that I hope Mariah, somehow, knows that she still has, because she wouldn't know it reading the majority of the comments on this board. She's a human. She's flawed. She's a treasure. She saved lives. She's older. She has feelings. All are true. If you're a fan, a real fan, then you just have to love her. That's all. I do. (Monday 2 June 2025; 20:00)

Music Box vs Daydream (108,953) by TJ from Norway It's time to grow up. (Monday 2 June 2025; 13:21) this is a reply to message 108,950

Music Box vs Daydream (108,950) by Lambi from USA That's a new one. I'm very new here. Please show me this baby you speak of. I'd like to see if he is as strong debater and doesn't resort to calling anyone a "yasss queen". But the bone I pick with Edward is because he made a big deal with me saying Mariah is avoiding wrinkles. Which btw, is a very verifiable fact. I'm just throwing the ball back way harder now because you don't do that to new comers. I'm finding out he's rather weak in debate and can't actually defend why he believes what he believes. His points are easily debunkable and he can't present you any fact. [censored] He made fun of Mariah. A couple people stood up for Mariah and called him nasty. He now then say "wow okay I guess I'll just hibernate aw I'm so sad". Its like he did the bullying and now he's the victim. Do you see the level of derangement? And with you? I don't have any problem. You're rather polite. We disagree with Solange's remix but you've never been rude. Hope this helps. (Monday 2 June 2025; 12:12)

Favourites (108,943) by TJ from Norway They are my favourites too. The live version of If it's Over on SNL is out of this world. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 19:31) this is a reply to message 108,941

Nasty, nasty comment (108,941) by MusicfanJ from Germany Great post. "I guess we in the Northern Europe drink so much that any American would say we were raging alcoholics." I live in an wine region, we have many wine festivals here (i just went on Friday to one) it's our culture. But yes, who knows what really happened to Mariah's voice? I think it's an combination of everything. "Vision of love" and "If it's over" are one of my favourites. The sound, her voice, the lyrics. Out of this world, pure Mariah magic. She will always be the best, if you look at her 90ies catalogue. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 14:14)

Nasty, nasty comment (108,939) by TJ from Norway I don't know if I got your message right, so I wouldn't comment on that one, but some people do have a different sound after some years in the business, and other doesn't. If it is because of alcohol or not, I can't say. I know a few opera singers and they both drink and sing (concerts almost every day) with no problem combining that with drinking. I guess we in the Northern Europe drink so much that any American would say we were raging alcoholics, but still keep singing. Whitney and Dionne Warwick both sounded different from their debut and later in their careers. If that's because of drugs, I don't know. I think Mariah for some years was pushing her voice over a long period of time (1991-1996) and that combined with the whispering voice (really hurt your voice). If you listen to her singing after her debut, her voice was much lover when she sang live than in her recordings. Anyway alcohol or not, we'll never get that sound again. I think I will be playing some Vision of Love today. And maybe some If it's Over. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 11:51) this is a reply to message 108,934

Nasty, nasty comment (108,934) by Lambi from USA Beyoncé has SirDavis American Whisky. She quite literally made an alcohol brand and sells them. She's so into drinking she made a whole business out of it. Mariah did the same with Black Irish. We can argue Beyoncé is a bigger alcoholic since SirDavis has 44% ABV, while Black Irish has 17%. However, Beyoncé has no vocal decline. If anything she got better. So no it's not alcoholism, your theory is ideologically inconsistent. Mariah simply has a different set of vocal cords, she has nodes and it only gets worse over time. And knowing Mariah's nonstop work ethic, she quickened her decline. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 02:32)

Happy anniversary (108,938) by TJ from Norway I think all have different views on those albums. I for example can't stand OSD. Well that's not the complete truth because I love/like like half a minute of the song (near the end). On the Daydream album these are the best ones: Fantasy, Long Ago, Open Arms, I am Free, Always Be My Baby and Forever. On the Music Box album: Dreamlover, Hero, Anytime You Need a Friend, Music Box, Without You, Everything Fades Away and Never Forget You. If I list them up, it would be something like this: 1. Dreamlover 2. Music Box 3. Fantasy 4. Anytime You Need a Friend 5. Hero 6. Open Arms 7. Without You 8. Never Forget You 9. Always be My Baby 10. Everything Fades Away 11. Long Ago 12. Forever 13. I am Free I think I need to make this into a play list on Spotify. She has many good songs. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 11:13) this is a reply to message 108,924

Happy anniversary (108,924) by Randy from USA You know that's an interesting premise. And I'm ready to get off this stroke, medication, vocal nonsense. I feel like Music Box and Daydream are siblings with the same highs and lows. Each has monster hits (Dreamlover, Hero, Without You vs. Fantasy, One Sweet Day, Always Be My Baby). Each has a weakness (I've Been Thinking About You vs Long Ago). Each has a club song (Now That I Know vs. Daydream Interlude). Dave Jam Hall, Babyface and Walter make appearances on both. I think the reason Music Box is slightly weaker is Now That I Know sucks as much as I've Been Thinking About You so it has two weak tracks and Daydream has Looking In. There's no introspective, non-romantic love track on Music Box. Looking In is the precursor to Close My Eyes, Outside, Petals, Languishing and of course, the best Mariah Carey song of all time Right To Dream. So yea, to me Daydream is the better of the two but Music Box is no slouch. I still play tf out of Anytime You Need A Friend from Tokyo Dome and the Jermaine Dupri remix of Never Forget You. Oh and I do a nifty sing along to the male part of Everything Fades Away. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 14:26)

Happy anniversary (108,919) by TJ from Norway Am I the only one who likes Music Box better than Daydream? (Saturday 31 May 2025; 10:33) this is a reply to message 108,917

Happy anniversary (108,917) by Tevin from USA Happy anniversary to the album that turned me into a Lamb. Even though Daydream will forever be the best album Mariah has ever created, TEOM holds a very special place in my heart. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 05:18)

TEOM 20 (108,898) by TJ from Norway Not what I was hoping for, but I hope the rest of you guys finds it interesting. (Friday 30 May 2025; 07:10)

Eternal 12 (108,896) by TJ from Norway Cheese fries. How American. Eat carrots and you will reverse the age, darling. I was until this day sure that she had at least one boob job (both left (Dolly) and right (Parton) of course). But nothing dramatic like Pamela in the 90s. Anyway, I don't need new music, but would love some old stuff. Grunge or not. (Thursday 29 May 2025; 23:38) this is a reply to message 108,890

Eternal 12 (108,890) by Edward from USA I agree. I think Mariah had a subtle nose job around the Daydream era, after that, it’s hard to tell because she contours her nose a lot. Aside from several minor touch-ups here an there, a great dose a Botox, some cheek fillers, the occasional honey facial, and her freezer chamber routine, I doubt she's had anything major done. I remember when people swore she’d had multiple boob jobs, only for it to turn out she was just rocking some serious push-up bras. My sister swears by those too, she buys them every ten years, but her husband says they feel hard as rocks, I don't know what that means. Anyway, I’m getting cheese fries. (Thursday 29 May 2025; 12:52)

Eternal 12 (108,884) by TJ from Norway I don't have any evidence on the case, but hasn't some fans here written about her lack of facial expressions and it (surgery) might a reason for it? I don't know. There has been times during her career that I have watched her on tv shows, and I have been thinking that her face looks different since last time I watched her perform. She's 56 this year, has tons of money and work in an industry where it's sadly "normal" to fix things. Btw: 1 day, 14 hours and 39 minutes left before she release TEOM20. (Wednesday 28 May 2025; 09:21) this is a reply to message 108,878

Eternal 12 (108,878) by MusicfanJ from Germany I hope not. I can't stand the Kardashians. Naturally beauty is the best. I'm always shocked when I see Pricella Presley. You can't tell her age anymore, but there's no mimic, like a mask. I always think that's spooky. And she was auch a beautiful woman, she didn't need it. Women like Andie McDowell, Sigourney Weaver and Helen Mirren are super role models, they look good and natural. (Tuesday 27 May 2025; 19:48)

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