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Re: The show must go on (I guess) (58,201) (58,204) by MimiLamb from Germany
I hope so to, but let's be honest if she would have canceled we know what would have happened then. At this point in time every move she makes could be the wrong on, it's like the woman is walking on thin ice, because there will be retribution the second she slips up or doesn't deliver.
(Friday 4 December 2015; 10:40)
Re: Rockefeller (58,202) (58,203) by MimiLamb from Germany
True that. Yes she was late, but lets not forget she did apologize to NBC and to the fans, at the end of the day even a Mariah Carey is human and f***s up. She could not undo the situation or the fact she was late, but she at least stood for it and admitting her wrong doing, what else could she have done at that point, right?
(Friday 4 December 2015; 10:36)
Re: Rockefeller (58,183) (58,202) by darrian liu from taiwan
But was leaking a bad isolated vocal track really necessary? Anybody with a decent heart will not do such things because that's not the way how you should treat people. Mariah did something wrong and the whole "being late for hours" thing was unprofessional for anyone, even for people of her calibre but I would never leak something that would destroy someone's reputation because it's not right. I mean I would feel guilty for days if I'm the one who leaked the track, even if it was accidental. Doing something like that could've costed someone's whole career. Mariah is lucky she is an established star with 25 years of success. That leaked track could annihilate a rising star's career like Tori Kelly. It's obvious that Mariah is a victim and while she did do something wrong and unprofessional, she did not deserve that leaking of the track. That's evil. Lol idk what the bleep were you thinking, sometimes try to put yourself in her place, how would you feel if that leaking happened to you? Would you still go "well I did come late so I guess I deserved a bulldozer on my public image and possibly my career"? Come on, don't be such a penis.
(Friday 4 December 2015; 8:43)
The show must go on (I guess) (58,201) by Lee TS from USA
I really hope she feels up to it and puts on a stellar performance. No one is going to care if she had the flu, the world is going to judge her solely based on a 15 second clip. She just can't afford to mess up. Please Mary J., no more drama.
(Friday 4 December 2015; 8:30)
Re: Fact vs. omission (50 shades of BS) (58,195) (58,200) by MimiLamb from Germany
Thank you for explaining the situation, I could never find the right words, but you did. Mariah payed dearly for this, we as fans should not be still throwing this in her face, the rest of the world is already doing so by posting the mic feed and trying to make her look bad, eventhough she already gave us great vocals way after this situation.
(Friday 4 December 2015; 8:01)
Thanks for nothing accapella (58,198) by Mara from United States
I ran across this and love how the song totally takes on a different sound. I love how she adds the absolutely nothing at the end.
(Friday 4 December 2015; 2:48)
Article: Did Mariah Carey lip-sync at Thanksgiving Day Parade? (58,197) by Steve from USA
I thought all performers lip synced at parades because of the moving floats and such, so they just play the track. It's silly that people called out Mariah when literally every performer used playback.
(Friday 4 December 2015; 1:58)
Can't Say No (58,196) by Terna from Nigeria
Just purchased from iTunes and I must say, I love it though she doesn't let the vocals rip like on the ballad version. Still it's nice to hear one of my favourite songs by her get the R&B treatment and it works here.
(Friday 4 December 2015; 1:57)
Fact vs. omission (50 shades of BS) (58,195) by nikki from usa
There is no such thing as "waiting 3 hours for Mariah Carey" for a show recording. When you, as a show, are trying to get artists in one place at a time you are dealing with international travelers. People's flights are delayed, they get caught in traffic, or lost. Bottom line is people are late, it happens, and often. This biz runs in the fast lane. No show is waiting around for a single artist to "show up" they are simply bumped and the next one that's there performs until the other artist arrives. Then, that artist has to wait his/her turn. It goes both ways. Just like if there's a tech problem the show has to wait until it's fixed. Or an artist that's early/on time might still be exchanged for a later time if it works better for the tech team. Rockefeller had about 3 hours worth of artists to record, they were not "waiting around" for Mariah. When they finished with their last act and MC wasn't there, they packed up. She didn't get any special treatment, they were even on the fence of whether to ax her or not. Mariah had a statement released, she had made a formal apology to NBC, their crew, and the fans. She agreed to sing the next day for whatever time table worked best for them as to not cause any further problems. Which would explain NBC's statement that they were happy to have her and what a huge draw she is each year. What sucks is after giving an apology, acknowledging her screw up, keeping her word the next day, she was given a faulty ear piece and globally humiliated. The real dick move was capitalizing on her appearance, waiting for the good press to roll in for another successful year before globally humiliating her. That's extreme for a woman that's been singing for them since 2010. If someone is willing to screw with your career it only makes sense to cut ties with them. If "Mariah holds a grudge" than clearly NBC was the one turned down. I hope Busta's show is televised.
(Friday 4 December 2015; 1:41)
Re: Rockefeller / Andrew (58,187) (58,194) by Andrew from UK
Martyn, I think Team Andrew is just you and me, chuck. But I submit it is the. coolest. team. ever. I agree the "phone call" idea is unproven - I should have put "allegedly". However, Mariah is renowned for being late and keeping people waiting for hours. I am not saying the Rockefeller lateness deserved releasing the mic feed, but Mariah kept everyone waiting for three hours in the rain and then, on the night, gave a very bad vocal performance. It is perfectly possible, and perhaps likely, that Mariah isn't performing at Rockefeller this year because she hasn't been invited.
(Friday 4 December 2015; 0:40)
Re: Rockefeller (58,191) (58,193) by Marissa from USA
I wouldn't give Rockefeller the time of day after last year's scandal. If Mariah's not performing there ever again I totally support her decision. I understand being mad that someone is late but releasing that mic feed was just evil. I would not want to bless the same people that humiliated me with improved vocals. I vote no.
(Thursday 3 December 2015; 22:50)
Re: Roc "these people" (58,184) (58,192) by Marissa from USA
I hope Mariah shuts that down because apparently Nick won't. Who would be proud of their kids saying that?
(Thursday 3 December 2015; 22:44)
Re: Rockefeller (58,183) (58,191) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
Attempting to see something from someone's point of view does not equate to making them into a "victim". No, Mariah is not perfect and yes people were miffed at having to wait. We don't know what went on that day, there is only tabloid speculation on that. But it was clear to me watching that performance, that something personal was going on. Something heavy. I'm sure there are those who say, "This is her job, she should just suck it up." Sometimes when you are in the thick of life unfolding, things don't feel all that black and white. It's a grey area and we all have them. She is at choice where she performs, and I'm not surprised she's chosen not to do this event right now. Again, I think she's done with videos and feeds being released for the purpose of creating scandal and she's taking a stand on the issue.
(Thursday 3 December 2015; 20:13)
Re: Rockefeller (58,183) (58,190) by Luke from United Kingdom
Nobody knows what held her up. She did apologise and came back to do a live performance which she could have avoided altogether. I definitely don't think it warranted her being humiliated.
(Thursday 3 December 2015; 17:59)
Re: Rockefeller (58,183) (58,189) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
We don't really know why she was late. Last year she was clearly not in a good place. That being said, maybe her team could have informed the crew that she won't make it, but it doesn't justify the shame she had to go through. I can understand some angry staff member leaking the footage, but NBC as a corporate entity should have stood behind Mariah, an artist they called in to get people more interested in the event. I heard that NBC replaced the official video of the performance with the mic feed once it leaked. That was in bad taste too, especially since even in her broken state Mariah's interview on their channel got them millions in live viewers. Just saying, one shouldn't mix their personal feelings with business.
(Thursday 3 December 2015; 17:35)
Stubhub ticket listing ID #: 1174071283 (58,188) by Kevyn from United States of America
Mariah Carey tickets for December 18th, 2015 at 8:00 PM to sell.
(Thursday 3 December 2015; 17:18)
Rockefeller / Andrew (58,187) by Martyn from England, UK
I usually am Team Andrew on most things, but you're talking about tabloid rumours as though they are fact. We all know how much the tabloids love to trash Mariah, so I wouldn't take the story of her being "on the phone" as gospel.
(Thursday 3 December 2015; 16:41)
The legends panel (58,186) by Lee TS from USA
I hope I'm not the only one. This is too much laughs lol.
(Thursday 3 December 2015; 15:26)
Re: Rockefeller (58,174) (58,183) (58,185) by Lee TS from USA
So what you're saying is like, an eye for an eye? Mariah deserved it? Please take your BS elsewhere dahling.
(Thursday 3 December 2015; 14:37)
Roc "these people" (58,184) by Lee TS from USA
Besides Mariah, Roc is taking in Nick's personality as well. When Howard Stern asked Nick if his children uses the N word, he said Roc does and that's his little man. Ummm, I guess.
(Thursday 3 December 2015; 13:59)
Re: Rockefeller (58,174) (58,183) by Andrew from UK
She kept the public and crew waiting for three hours in the rain and told them she was "on the phone". Somebody retaliated. Not sure Mariah was a victim there.
(Thursday 3 December 2015; 13:27)
Busta bust (58,182) by Lee TS from USA
Hmmm, after listening to The Lambily Meeting, I would agree with them that maybe Mariah should cancel her appearance and stay home to rest in preparation for Beacon. To move Mariah from NY to NJ must be a whole production, and we know hair and makeup must at least take 3 hours minimum. I know we're glad it's just the flu and she can make jokes about it, but she did go to the hospital. She needs to stay in bed and rest, order The Good Dinosaur and watch it with the kids. I rather her be 100% at her own show than killing herself over a favor for a friend.
(Thursday 3 December 2015; 12:26)
Re: Steve Harvey (58,178) (58,181) by Pau from Mexico
I just watched the interview too and it is just weird how watching the whole program without the editing changed 100% my opinion about her stiffness and awkwardness. Mariah appeared with a very down to earth and likeable attitude. She looked calm and mature, and I'd say somehow careful with her responses but still being honest. The interview was really well thought and scripted, seemed like a favor from Steve to MC and from her to him. I'm really impressed, her publicist and Stella are really doing their work.
(Thursday 3 December 2015; 10:23)
Re: AIWFCIY acoustic version with new 95-96ish vocals (58,169) (58,180) by Bill from the UK
Hi Mandy. The vocals on the acoustic version are all from the original 1994 session. Usually many takes will be done or the song sang numerous different ways before deciding on the final version. It is not an official remix and wasn't from Sony being hacked. It was made by an indepedent remixer who managed to get hold of the original vocal track from 1994. Not sure how he managed that, but assume he has a friend at Sony that was able to get them.
(Thursday 3 December 2015; 7:26)
Vegas (58,179) by OGmattyICE from US
I'm 23 and a diehard Mariah fan like there's no other in the world I think is better. I saw her live for the first time ever in Vegas in May (which happened to be the show they filmed Infinity at) and was considering seeing her again in Vegas coming up in a few months and was seeing what you all thought? Yay or nay? Will she be performing much longer?
(Thursday 3 December 2015; 7:02)

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