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Three album groupings (56,087) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
After the Charbracelet/Rainbow discussion was brought up on this board, it got me thinking. MC kinda has three different "categories" of albums she releases. This is how I see them. (This is not rating or commenting on the quality of music in any way.) Commercial "Pop" albums: These are albums where Mariah follows of-the-moment pop music trends and are crafted to be pop-music gold.
1. Mariah Carey (debut) - the Whitney/Janet trend
2. Music Box - Celine Dion trend
3. Rainbow - Destiny's Child trend
4. E=MC2 - Beyonce trend
Artistic expression: There is no other album out there that sounds like these quintessential Mariah artistic masterpieces.
1. Butterfly - post Tommy divorce
2. Charmbracelet - post mental and physical exhaustion breakdown
3. Me. I Am Mariah. - during Nick marital destruction
Albums blending what Mariah loves about her artistry/music and what will she can sell to the general public:
1. Emotions - Emotions vs. The Wind
2. The Emancipation of Mimi - We Belong Together vs. Joy Ride
3. Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel - Obsessed vs. Languishing
What do you think?
(Sunday 16 August 2015; 4:10)
Rainbow/Charmbracelet and JS vs MC album (56,085) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
In my opinion, Charmbracelet is a much more artistic and inspired album then Rainbow. You can't even compare the two. Charmbracelet is in my top three albums, where as I agree with what another poster said, Rainbow is in my bottom two (or maybe it's my least favourite). Heartbreaker (original and remix), and Bliss are three of Mariah's best songs, but the rest of the album is so choppy and doesn't have flow. I don't feel like Rainbow really sounds like Mariah, the instrumentation and production seem to harsh against Mariah's voice. X-Girlfriend, How Much, Did I Do That, eek. And I hate to say it, but Thank Guy I Found You is too sing-songy to me, it's her most "Pop-basic" #1. It reminds me of a Jessica Simpson or Mandy Moore song or something. I love the Jump Smokers vs Mariah Carey album. I was just as Obsessed (wink wink) with both albums. The Irresistible remix is one of her best dance club remixes ever. It should have been a single, and on a standard album cut.
(Sunday 16 August 2015; 3:43)
Congratulations (56,084) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
Congratulations Mimi L, you just posted your 1000th message.
(Sunday 16 August 2015; 2:35)
Re: Memoirs (56,074) (56,083) by Licia from USA
The songs that I listen to the most are HateU, The Impossible, Obsessed, I Want To Know What Love Is, the Inseparable remix, and the Up Out My Face remix. (IMO Nicki's raps really brought something to an otherwise lack luster song. Also the video is hilarious lol.) I just started listening to Betcha Gon Know, It's A Wrap, and Candy Bling. I'm leaning more towards the Candy Bling remix though. I'm trying to get into Ribbon. The remixes that leaked are what made me give Memoirs another listen. I'm still salty about them shelving that album.
(Sunday 16 August 2015; 1:24)
Re: Mimi L. / B (56,076) (56,082) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
Haha well darling at least I try to give proper opinions/suggestions on things that matters. And not just leave one liners like "Mariah is so fat", "Mariah can't sing", "Mariah lost her writing ability", "Can we get Mariah to be thin again." Plus at least I stick to my opinions. Can't say the same about you. Aren't you the same person who basically called Licia, and me out for suggesting Mariah should embrace her body instead of trying to hide it behind wet suits at beaches and you went on a mini rant telling us how "Mariah's fans are her worst enemies" and how we should "leave Mariah alone because we may not be aware of what she is going through health wise"? (Refer to your own post 54,830.) And yet you disregard what she may be suffering health wise and keep telling her to be thin. I also loved how you wrote "I don't agree with you and neither would Mariah" to a post where I wrote how she shouldn't jump on new projects without giving it her all and release bad singles/videos, whereas you complain the most about her song choices. Oops there you go, wrote a "long essay" again. Don't worry it's my last post directed at you. There will always be a new Giovanni on this board every other day, but we "love" everybody. Oh and I would love to hear you "do a duet with Mariah".
(Sunday 16 August 2015; 0:58)
Re: Rainbow vs. Charmbracelet (56,065) (56,081) by B from USA
If Mariah had sang the songs she wrote for Charmbracelet like she did on Rainbow, Glitter, and TEOM she would have scored a huge hit or two during that era. Everyone that hates that album is because of her use the whisper regiester/whispered vocals. On most songs she barely raises her voice above a whisper. The One and You Had Your Chance are two of my favorite songs. Mariah should have released X-Girlfriend as a single from Rainbow.
(Sunday 16 August 2015; 0:52)
Mariah vs. Jumpsmokers: Memoirs remix album (56,080) by Quaid Long from USA
Does anyone else adore this as much as I do? I actually used to listen to it more than the original when I first found it. It's a shame they never released it - the remix of Betcha Gon' Know is amazing.
(Sunday 16 August 2015; 0:51)
Re: Memoirs / B (56,078) (56,079) by B from USA
I adore you.
(Sunday 16 August 2015; 0:47)
Re: Memoirs / B (56,075) (56,078) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
That remix of H.A.T.E.U. is divine. I love it. Especially how she used the sample. I discovered so many great songs while checking out samples that Mariah used for her songs and it always amazes me how she picks them. Anyways I think H.A.T.E.U. is a great example of how Mariah can still shine in a rapper heavy song if it's done right. Thanks for sharing your list B.
(Sunday 16 August 2015; 0:36)
Re: Mimi L. / B (56,076) (56,077) by B from USA
I'm not sure what you are.
(Saturday 15 August 2015; 23:27)
Mimi L. / B (56,076) by Giovanni from USA
You know I love you and your posts Mimi L. Even if they're super long. If you think I'm a troll B, thank you. I think I have been the delusional one. Mariah is slowly but surely losing the weight. And "Infinity" is an awesome song. I'm playing it right now. Mariah can score a another because "I believe".
(Saturday 15 August 2015; 22:11)
Re: Memoirs / B (56,071) (56,075) by B from USA
I love Obsessed, Candy Bling, Standing O, and Languishing. I like H.A.T.E.U. but I love the remix featuring Jermaine Dupri, OJ Da Juiceman, Big Boi, and Gucci Mane that samples Ghost Town DJ's's My Boo.
(Saturday 15 August 2015; 21:40)
Re: Memoirs (56,071) (56,074) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
Hahah thanks Licia, you are a sweetheart. You are right and so is B, we shouldn't feed the irregularities. About Memoirs, it is an underrated album. I get why people only think of the cheesy songs (which I still love) when they think of Memoirs, even I sometimes do the same. It has some really good songs though. It has the rare moment when Mariah threatens you with murder/grievous bodily harm with the "betcha gonna know how it feels, even if it's the last thing I ever do, to be continued" haha. I wonder what she had planned for the lover plus then she just went ahead and told her lover ssying "I should crack you right in your forehead" in IAW. The only other time she threatened to assault someone was "I will hunt you down" in TMB. I was also very excited about the remix album, but Mr Reid dropped it. Anyways but I am interested to know what your favorite tracks from Memoirs are.
(Saturday 15 August 2015; 21:27)
Re: Memoirs / B (56,052) (56,073) by Mike from FL, USA
I agree. Candy Bling is one of my faves.
(Saturday 15 August 2015; 21:20)
Just an idea like this that came in my mind (56,072) by Gilles from Malta
When I saw the pic of MC and Will Smith. I told myself they should sing a duet together. I used to like Will Smith's album a lot. It could be extremely nice, don't you think? Or do you think that it comes from my generation and not the new one? Lol.
(Saturday 15 August 2015; 21:16)
Re: Memoirs / B (56,063) (56,071) by Licia from USA
Mimi L. let me make you laugh (I have to get you to ignore that other one lol). I actually once upon a time thought I hated Memoirs. That was until my friend asked me what songs I liked from the album and I named dang near half the album. It almost makes me feel bad that I didn't buy it. Lol. Truthfully though I was ready for that remix album for Memoirs. I was bummed when Angels Advocate got shelved. Those remixes were nice. Maybe we would have gotten a proper remix to It's A Wrap and Betcha Gon Know had the album been given a chance.
(Saturday 15 August 2015; 20:32)
Re: Edward (56,064) (56,070) by George Golden from UK
Well said.
(Saturday 15 August 2015; 18:58)
Re: Idea (56,068) (56,069) by Lara from Middle East
You just named the people I think Mariah should include in her work instead of these rappers. Bruno Mars, The Weeknd, John legend, Jason Derulo have both the style and the voice that would merge well with her.
(Saturday 15 August 2015; 18:57)
Idea (56,068) by B from USA
Mariah needs a new sound. PBR&B, also referred to as R-Neg-B, hipster R&B, indie R&B, and alternative R&B, which is an emerging, stylistic alternative to contemporary R&B would be good fit for Mariah. #Beautiful with Miguel is proof that if she deviates from the formula she's used since TEOM she can score a hit. Mariah should work with Frank Ocean, Miguel, The Weeknd, and Bruno Mars and The Smeezingtons and the writers and producers they work with.
(Saturday 15 August 2015; 18:52)
Re: When Mariah really cares (56,038) (56,067) by B from USA
Am I a hater for not liking something that is evidently a mess and a desperate attempt at creating something decent? No, Edward you're not.
(Saturday 15 August 2015; 18:31)
Re: Memoirs / B (56,063) (56,066) by B from USA
Don't feed the trolls. I learned the hard way. Slowly but surely, lol.
(Saturday 15 August 2015; 17:29)
Re: Rainbow vs. Charmbracelet (56,055) (56,065) by B from USA
Both. Rainbow for vocals and Charmbracelet for lyrics.
(Saturday 15 August 2015; 17:19)
Edward (56,064) by Randy from USA
I listened to a few moments of the "remix" and turned it off. I often just feel she's not making music for me anymore. That's ok. But I do wonder who is she making it for beside herself? I wonder how long this eternally 12, goddess in a mermaid dress that makes music with current hip hop artists can last. Not to be ageist but will all this make sense in 5 years at age 50? I'm not saying she should be put out to pasture but what she's been doing since 2009 can't last. PS I miss our private email MC debates.
(Saturday 15 August 2015; 16:38)
Re: Memoirs / B (56,058) (56,063) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
No one said anything about a #1. A top 50 is also a hit Giovanni. Mariah has spoiled her fans by getting too many #1's, so now anything less than #1 is a flop for them. Ridiculous. It'd be nice if you can post one message without sarcasm. You are almost getting too predictable.
(Saturday 15 August 2015; 15:42)
Re: To the webmaster (56,060) (56,062) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
Haha no he won't. We had that before and it did not go down well. It's better not to have a dislike button.
(Saturday 15 August 2015; 15:40)

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