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About Bill from the UK: I love Mariah more than you do. London Daydream Tour Attendee.

Re: Derek Jeter (95,391) (95,393) by Bill from the UK There was a withdrawn UK release, I have it in my collection. And yes apologies, you're right, some territories in Europe did release the single. (Friday 4 September 2020; 22:16)

Re: Sweetheart non Rap (95,380) (95,386) by Bill from the UK Yes agree, it's different with The One (No Rap) as JD's contribution is minimal, albeit still has his hallmark level of annoyingness. Sweetheart being more a "duet", the rap actually works and adds to a rather bland song. And yes, it was planned as the lead single but was canned right before release as radio wasn't playing it. Hence singles were pressed both in the US and Europe but were never commercially issued. (Friday 4 September 2020; 20:05)

Re: Derek Jeter (95,370) (95,379) by Bill from the UK Amazing to think the impact this man had on MC, considering their relationship was, seemingly, short lived (I theorise he was on the scene as far back as 1995 and may have contributed to the breakdown of the marriage to Tommy). I have one minor niggle with the list: Damizza has a chapter in his book called "Don't Forget About Us", all about how he ended things with Mariah (whatever "things" were, friendship or maybe something more). The lyrics fit his version of events. (Friday 4 September 2020; 12:48)

Re: The Meaning of Mariah's chapters leaked (95,372) (95,378) by Bill from the UK Too much haha, this is priceless. (Friday 4 September 2020; 12:28)

Re: TMOMC (95,365) (95,367) by Bill from the UK Hahaha good one. (Thursday 3 September 2020; 20:59)

Re: #1s Era Remix EPs (95,362) (95,364) by Bill from the UK Yes, thank you I had just seen which is great. I'll do my usual ungrateful report nitpicking everything tomorrow or over the weekend. Looking forward to having some new mixes to stream tomorrow. (Thursday 3 September 2020; 19:05)

EPs this Friday (95,361) by Bill from the UK Good news guys. Mariah is releasing a Spanish EP this Friday with Hero, Open Arms, My All, and the Mi Todo remixes alongside the #1s era EPs. The incredibly rare Do You Know Where You're Going To remixes are also being put out which is fantastic news. (Thursday 3 September 2020; 14:52)

Re: TMOMC (95,358) (95,360) by Bill from the UK See my previous message babydoll. (Thursday 3 September 2020; 13:38)

Re: Bill (95,349) (95,352) by Bill from the UK Thank you for the courteous response. I respect your view as well. (Wednesday 2 September 2020; 21:17)

Re: TMOMC (95,348) (95,351) by Bill from the UK Oh Terna for once just shut up. (Wednesday 2 September 2020; 20:39)

Re: TMOMC (95,343) (95,345) by Bill from the UK I get what you're saying, it is Mariah's story to tell in whatever way she wants. How airing your family's dirty laundry in public for the entire world to read is cathartic and healing is beyond me. But maybe that's just me. She is known as a singer and, desperately, has always sought recognition for her songwriting. Mariah's previous stance of adopting a wall of silence on all things personal said all there was to say really, e.g., it's not worth my time to comment on tabloid fodder. We know the Tommy story. And Nick. And Stella. We know about Glitter. We know she's biracial. We know Alison has been a thorn in her side. We know she doesn't know J. Lo. What we *don't* know is how she came up with that heavenly, gospel flavoured bridge in Vision of Love, her behind the scenes battle to put out the Fantasy remix she believed so much in, how Outside took on so many meanings for so many people, how she unknowingly contributed to the holiday song canon when she (at first, reluctantly) made her Christmas album, how motherhood has changed her drive and perspective, how she worked with Gavin Christopher before Ben Margulies came along, how she sang with those jazz musicians late at night in her youth, how Someday was apparently considered being purchased for Whitney's "I'm Your Baby Tonight" album but Mariah believed so much in it that she turned down the offer. This is what I want to read about. But, like I said, maybe it's just me. (Wednesday 2 September 2020; 14:50)

Daydream anniversary (95,342) by Bill from the UK Apparently the Underneath the Stars video will appear on or around Daydream's anniversary this month. David Morales was interviewed recently and commented that he did remixes for Forever, but that they never were released. I wonder if MC will put out a Forever EP around the same time also? (Wednesday 2 September 2020; 14:01)

Re: Best written song 90-99 (95,337) (95,340) by Bill from the UK Without question, All I Want for Christmas Is You is the best. But The Roof is a close second. (Wednesday 2 September 2020; 11:17)

Re: The Ballads-Deluxe Edition (95,331) (95,338) by Bill from the UK I think it is item 3445 on this site's discography. It appears to be the same tracks as the US edition, but with a sample of her perfume. (Wednesday 2 September 2020; 07:55)

Re: Article: Mariah after midnight (95,325) (95,326) by Bill from the UK I see what you mean, but at the same time it seems this great opportunity to shake off the forever-late, shady, arrogant diva image she's cultured over the years and display her musical genius and an insight into her production technique, writing for others, vocal harmonies, singing style etc. has been lost. From what I've seen so far, the book is shaping up to be one big score settler. And who does that benefit? (Tuesday 1 September 2020; 15:42)

Re: Article: Mariah after midnight (95,302) (95,324) by Bill from the UK The most heartbreaking thing about that article was the reference to her "ex" brother and sister. The Carey household just seems so broken. Even Mariah referring to her mother calling the ambulance when she was attempting to kill herself as a "betrayal". I mean what on earth is a mother supposed to do in that situation? Surely now Mariah has her own children she can, more than ever, understand the actions she took at the time, when in a state of panic. Personally I wanted all the family issues to not be addressed and it solely focus on her musicianship, her songwriting, the meaning behind songs, behind the scenes stories as to how her biggest hits came about. I still hold out hope the book does focus heavily on that. (Tuesday 1 September 2020; 10:27)

Re: Babyface (95,290) (95,291) by Bill from the UK Baby-face produced When You Believe for Whitney and Mariah so I think that was the official last time they worked together. I also loved Mariah's contribution to Every Time I Close My Eyes. (Monday 31 August 2020; 11:47)

Re: Jereministroke (95,280) (95,284) by Bill from the UK I know you were being funny, but my database does actually record the barcodes of my collection lol. (Sunday 30 August 2020; 14:31)

Re: Butterfly Bossa Nova Remix (95,276) (95,277) by Bill from the UK For me it's not so much the rarity. I was fortunate to obtain the promo CD in 1997/1998 for not that much money at a record fare. What I like about it is how different it is. By that point, the standard Morales dance mix was becoming cliché, with the usual programmed drums, ostinato keyboards playing major chords, and unaccompanied vocal breakdown. The Bossa Nova was like a breath of fresh air, and it's still never really been bettered for originality. (Saturday 29 August 2020; 20:38)

Re: New vocabulary (95,267) (95,275) by Bill from the UK Haha. I've been trying since 1999 to use "delectable" in a sentence. (Saturday 29 August 2020; 17:58)

Re: Rarities tracklisting - real? (95,262) (95,271) by Bill from the UK In fairness, there is an awful lot of material that hasn't been released before if the tracklisting is real. The three b sides, whilst most of us have them on singles, fans have been screaming for them to be more readily available than they are, especially Slipping Away. Personally I'm looking forward to having them all together. As for All In Your Mind Take 2, I'm holding out hope of a deluxe 30th edition of the debut that will feature demo recordings and alternate takes. That would be an amazing way to end MC30, by going right back to where it all began. (Saturday 29 August 2020; 09:23)

Re: Butterfly Bossa Nova Remix (95,266) (95,270) by Bill from the UK Yep, one of the best mixes she ever did and in my top ten for sure. (Saturday 29 August 2020; 09:15)

Rarities tracklisting - real? (95,257) by Bill from the UK Saw this go by on Reddit. Think the track list is all but confirmed now. The ordering is incorrect here in some cases, but I've seen these titles crop up on most speculative lists. Hypnotized, Can You Hear Me, Crave and the original Loverboy are what I am most excited for. (Friday 28 August 2020; 16:53)

Re: Butterfly EPs and recap (95,254) (95,256) by Bill from the UK Haha. Not sure I could manage that job, but I certainly would happily work as her archivist and compilation/EP/remix consultant (for free of course). (Friday 28 August 2020; 15:58)

Re: Vision Of Love EP (95,252) (95,255) by Bill from the UK Correct Will. Vision of Love, Love Takes Time, I Don't Wanna Cry, Can't Let Go, I'll Be There, If It's Over, Hero, Without You, Endless Love, All I Want for Christmas Is You, Joy to the World, Open Arms, and Forever are all EP-less singles currently. No remixes were commissioned for Vision of Love, I'll Be There, If It's Over, Without You and Forever, so that makes sense. Open Arms and Hero only had their Spanish versions. However, Love Takes Time, I Don't Wanna Cry, and Can't Let Go had radio versions released on the singles at the time. Up until now I haven't included Love Takes Time's single version on my list because it is so barely different it is probably just a different mix rather than an official alternative version. For those interested, the version released on the UK commercial singles pushes the whistle register at the end of the bridge way into the back of the mix, whereas on the album version it is much more prominent. I'm hoping the Christmas tracks have their own EPs soon. I agree a Vision of Love EP with the live versions from Thanksgiving, MSG and the Medley from the debut album would have been good. (Friday 28 August 2020; 15:57)

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