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Re: Webmaster mocking business (46,118) by Carol from Spain Webmaster, Mariah is modest we know that. Her PR is doing what they're paid to do: to sell her image. Nothing they say is out of order. The way you wrote it looks like MC is to blame and it makes her look bad. Maybe you should have written theings differently. I guess. (Monday 18 August 2014; 21:07)

Re Mocking business (46,117) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands Once again, I will try to explain what I meant. I'm not mocking Mariah or her success. I fact, I'm proud of what Mariah has accomplished. I love Mariah and almost everything Mariah has ever recorded. I have one of the biggest Mariah collections in the world. And after all, I run this website for 16 years, posting daily updates. But I do mock Mariah's PR team. It gets tired that whenever Mariah announces a new album or tour, they must write that she's the biggest selling female artist in the world, that she has 18 Billboard Number 1 hits, that she has won numerous awards, etc. And they love to exaggerate. I know Mariah is modest (just watch an interview when someone ask her about her success), but her PR team is just the opposite. Remember when they wrote "the key singles such as Faded, Dedicated (featuring Nas), #Beautiful (featuring Miguel), Make It Look Good and Camouflage have featured prominently on numerous music charts"? And now the press release also has mistakes ("This will be Mariah's first reemergence to the stage since her celebrated and extensive 'The Adventures of Mimi' tour in 2006."). Most websites will believe what's written in the press release and if it's full of mistakes and exaggerated, than Mariah will lose her credibility and will be mocked. (Monday 18 August 2014; 20:57)

Mocking business (46,116) by Carol from Spain When the webmaster mocks Mariah's success, how can the other post with respect? Mariah doesn't need to inflate her numbers to be noticed: she is more then a bunch of albums sold. I actually find it insulting. (Monday 18 August 2014; 20:38)

Surprised no one else noticed (46,113) by nikki from usa After the announcement of her label descending into 3 different ones I thought everything Mariah was doing finally made sense. This process would have begun long before the official announcement and within the label people would've known their time was coming up. Mariah hasn't had a publicist in 2 years. No one was promoting her album or single so she stalled with several releases of Beautiful. The label was about to be permanently shuffled and Mariah's project would be lost in it. She noticed the red flags because she already deja-ed this vu at Virgin Records. She decided to create an album she'd be proud of as an artist instead, since it was unlikely that it would be supported, especially since this was her last. All these singles being released from iTunes to Facebook was MC testing her markets. "In the future we won't need labels." Mariah's using this era as a testing ground to find new ways to promote herself. She's doing a lot of behind the scenes things from changing publishers to new products. We know of 2 music videos created which haven't been released, she's going on tour, and has a beverage out that's going to give fans exclusive material. It looks like MC is working on a connection with the hardcore fanbase and working outward with the tour. Mariah's getting all her ducks in a row for a good reason. Times change and you need to find your niche. That's exactly what she's been doing from private Clear Channel performances within the industry and mini tours she's been on from 2012-2013. She's recreating her name starting with MC basics: her success, her music, her vocals. Until the ink is dry on her other projects she's not going to make it known, especially if she's having home issues. Mariah Carey: "I can't stop writing songs so don't be surprised if you hear a brand new song that I just wrote the night before the show in your city." Perhaps the fans will choose the songs that make up her next album? (Monday 18 August 2014; 19:42)

Webmaster (46,111) by LC from USA Hi Webmaster, I'm a dedicated Mariah fan and I've been visiting this page for 5 years now. It's my first time posting, so I hope you don't take this the wrong way. I noticed your post about Mariah's PR team claiming she has sold 220 million albums worldwide and you disagreed with the statement, saying that she had sold only 200 million albums a few months ago and that this was impossible. Well, could it be that there was a recalculation of Mariah's worldwide sales? I mean, it seems to be updated every era, because during the Memoirs era, it was always 160-175 million albums worldwide. Then after, she used 200 million albums. I understand that it is an inflated number, but according to Billboard or Soundscan rules, an artist can claim to have sold however many records as long as 20 percent are certified. I mean look at Madonna's sales. In 2000 she had sold 120 million albums, then all of a sudden it's 250 million in just a few years, when it's obvious she didn't sell 130 million albums in that time. I'm just saying I think Mariah has every right to say how much she's sold because with all the disrespect going on, she needs to let people know who she is. Thank you for hosting such a great site. (Monday 18 August 2014; 16:47)

The Elusive Chanteuse Show (46,110) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands "This will be Mariah's first reemergence to the stage since her celebrated and extensive 'The Adventures of Mimi' tour in 2006." What about the Angels Advocatie Tour in 2010, which visited 20 cities in North America, starting with a spectacular concert at the Madison Square Garden in New York City on New Year's Eve 2010? And her concerts in Egypt, Australia, New York, Atlanta, Gold Coast, Monte Carlo, etc? (Monday 18 August 2014; 15:08)

Re MimiLamb (46,109) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands I wasn't mocking Mariah, I was mocking her PR team. When an artist only sells 0.1 million copies of her latest album in the USA (and much less in all other countries, e.g. in the Netherlands Me. I Am Mariah only sold a few hundred copies), I think modesty is in place. But instead they just add another 20 million copies to her total album sales. And they say "albums" and not "records". (Monday 18 August 2014; 15:00)

Webmaster (46,108) by MimiLamb from Germany Don't really know what to think about your post to be honest, mocking Mariah? Making her look bad? I mean first your post about Mariah not selling over 200 million albums, what was wrong because it's more than 200 million records sold what is a big difference and now this. Idk but I find it a little weird. Bring on the defenders but that was the first thing I thought after reading your post. (Monday 18 August 2014; 14:55)

220 million albums (46,107) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands You can say what you want about Mariah, but she is the only artist who can sell 20 million albums in just 3 months. In May 2014, her official website wrote: "She has sold over 200 million albums and is the recording artist with the most number one singles in America." Her latest press release reads: "Mariah Carey is a true music icon and the best-selling female artist of all time with more than 220 million albums sold to date and 18 Billboard Hot 100 No. 1 singles." Just before the tour starts, I bet they will write: "Mariah Carey has sold more than 250 million albums. Her current album, Me. I Am Mariah... The Elusive Chanteuse, has sold over 5 million copies in the USA alone and has a dozen hits, including Meteorite, Fading, Money and the chart topping single You Don't Know What To Do. Order your tickets soon, because her concerts will sell out in just seconds." I love modesty. (Monday 18 August 2014; 14:42)

My theory (46,106) by Jessica from USA Okay this is just my observation from everything ever since the album release but I believe Mariah is indeed going through a divorce behind the scenes. Some lambs are in denial and just don't want to believe the rumors are true but this could be one of the main reasons we haven't heard/seen much of her as of late. All the signs are there. She has replaced her engagement ring with the butterfly ring. They haven't been photoed together in awhile, also Mariah usually sends out tweets to support Nick's projects, which she hasn't not once. I've noticed in Nick's recent interviews he doesn't mention Mariah at all, even when bringing up dembabies and actually got irritated when asked about Mariah. Also does anybody find it weird that neither Nick or MC have shut down these rumors swirling when in the past Nick has been so quick to do so? Also him just deleting his instagram was kinda of odd. They are known for always publicly sharing their love for each other so it just seems like something is off with them. I truly do believe that Mariah was letting us know something with this album. However, I really hope I'm all the way wrong and they have just become more private because I'm worried our girl would break down if faced with a divorce being that her parents divorced when she was very young. (Monday 18 August 2014; 11:52)

MimiLamb (46,105) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Good point. I have already accepted that this album is done and over with but every now and then the frustration builds up lol. But no, you are right and I guess I'll get there eventually. As for the lyrics being promised, well you know how iTunes and Mariah had a twitter chat arranged for fans where Mariah was online for a while and fans could send in their questions? Well one of them was about the lyrics not being included and Mariah answered that she is aware of it and that she will be releasing it soon in the manner she wanted to. Now what manner would that be, no one has a clue. It kind of gave rise to the speculation that she maybe doing lyric videos or that like someone wrote here that she is holding back lyrics as a publicity stunt to get fans to go crazy over figuring out what she's saying in the songs and all. (Monday 18 August 2014; 11:18)

Mimilamb (46,104) by Abraham from USA Yes, it is time to move on. I did abouth a month ago. (Monday 18 August 2014; 10:06)

Spot on MimiLamb (46,103) by May from Denmark Quote: "Trust me it only frustrates if you keep thinking about it." Haha, it kinda made me laugh because I feel exactly that. While I have already let go the whole idea of remixes, possible video and new releases for this year, one can't help (or at least me) to think what is going on. Like I said before, I don't care if she wants family time (which I think she deserves), free time to think and put things together if anything is broken or just relax in a nice beach, whatever. But far so long, so silent one simply would like to know anything, a line, a message, a small statement other than "look guys what a great book I'm reading". But like you said, time to "let it go". It won't quit my anxiety for more MC music though, overall after reading from herself in that tweet not that long ago the word "working" haha. (Monday 18 August 2014; 10:02)

Maybe Ariana, next copy cat? (46,102) by May from Denmark While I don't think Ariana stole from the song Never Forget You (don't think she can write a note anyway haha), truth is it doesn't have the same melody but it does have the same vibe and all the same style, not only musically but the way it is sang as well. It's clear that Ariana's management is trying to make out of her the "next Mariah", all you got to do is see how they are styling her lately, the hair is exactly the same one MC used to wear for the longest time and they are even changing her color making it more alike to Mariah's in her prime time. Even her dance moves for a couple of her songs were a blatant copy of Mariah's style from Honey and Fantasy and don't get me started with the white boots, Mariah has been walking on those as well. Only someone who doesn't know Mariah or is deft or blind wouldn't notice what they are trying to accomplish with Ariana. Her music is superficial and doesn't have a longevity print because she is purely for the commercial machinery to keep moving on, the songs are made for her and obviously they are digging into MC music lately just to stamp that signature on Ariana and take advantage of it. Ariana sings well, there's no denial, but her voice is weak compared to Mariah. "Often imitated, never duplicated." (Monday 18 August 2014; 9:52)

Fresh start (46,101) by MimiLamb from Germany This album will not get anymore promotion, so it's time for us to move on as well. Ofcourse it's hard because the album is that good but I don't think she will release a single/video from this album anymore, when yes great when no oh well. Trust me it only frustrates if you keep thinking about it. We have been going through ups and downs these last few months, more downs than ups but hey let's just keep our faith and try to start fresh giving the woman the benefit of the doubt instead of going through the same thing over and over again. I think it's wise she is staying silent, I just have a feeling it's for a very good reason, maybe new music or maybe finally taking the rest so she slays these concerts in Asia with live performances that we all want to hear and see from her. Nina, when did she promise to give us the lyrics? Because I cannot recall her promising that. (Monday 18 August 2014; 7:29)

Stephen (46,100) by Stacey from USA Thank you for your kind words. Your comments and take on things are always a breath of fresh air here. Camoflauge is a great song. The lyrics are so deep and tender. My only beef with the song (and it's a small one) is the overuse of background singing. I don't know. It seems a "less is more" approach would have been better (aka Looking In). Anyway, it is a great song. With this album I've taken one song and really listened to it for a few weeks before discovering another track. (Monday 18 August 2014; 7:27)

Thank you / thoughts MIAM (46,099) by Stacey from USA Thanks for the kind words Mimi L, Stephen, and Will. Edward is a class act too. Common sense and a cooler head always prevails in my book. Thanks for being such good examples of that to me too. When I first started posting on MC fansites as a young 24 year old, I took disagreements as personal attacks. I learned that is not the case. Such things cause unnecessary drama. Maybe it's because I'm 37, married almost 13 years, or have three kids (that cause enough drama all by themselves) that allows me to flick off the flies of drama when they buzz around me here. How's that for a metaphor? Haha. It's ok for those to say leave MC alone and let her do what she wants. Fair enough. But, not every fan is going to see it that way. There are those of us who are frustrated the album wasn't promoted properly. We feel the music deserves better treatment. Both opinions are valid and should be heard. If that bothers some of you, sobeit. The world would be boring if we all shared the same opinion. Relax and enjoy the discussion. It ain't that deep. (Monday 18 August 2014; 7:24)

Why she's quiet (46,098) by Terri from USA My take on her not speaking out on the album release fiasco is that she has to be devastated, embarassed and quite possibly, humiliated. How does it happen, how could it happen, that none of her songs are getting airplay? A few with the ability to be legitimate hits. Some huge errors were made. If she gave interviews she might very well be placed in a position where she would have to throw some folks under the bus, i.e., her close friend/manager Dupri being the main one. As captain of the ship, so to speak, he was the man in charge, in delegating and overseeing. This has been a major mess-up. I think her leaving the country and letting things die down is a good thing. I just hope that her leaving is not a harbinger of her marriage breaking up. And BTW, why is Arianna even a discussion on this site? (Monday 18 August 2014; 5:09)

MIAMTEC top 5 (46,097) by enwar00 from usa Awhile back I thought I wasn't able to choose my top 5 faves from MIAMTEC, because it was so new, but it turns out that I was pretty much there, except for the fact that I like #Beautiful way more than I did last year, so I can only do to a top 6. In no particular order except Faded: Faded Dedicated #Beautiful Make It Look Good You Don't Know What to Do Meteorite (Monday 18 August 2014; 3:49)

Mimi L. (46,096) by 123 from USA Mimi L. I agree with you and so do many of the other fans here. I know it is hard because we were told that there was a plan and we would know the truth very soon but unfortunately I do not believe that is going to happen. Usually if a project fails, Mariah will abandon it and instead just start from scratch and create something new. The great thing about her is that she loves to create and she seems to already be cooking up something. We won't hear anything until she is ready to release details about her next move. I hope she does get a new deal and she puts a clause in her contract where she has control of how her album is released to the masses. There are reports that more labels are considering worldwide digital releases, but they won't start testing the waters until later this year early next year. I would rather she get a deal like Madonna and go to Live Nation and use a label solely for distribution of physical copies. Mariah wants complete control, she has fought for record companies to listen to her before, especially during the infancy of the digital era, they didn't listen and look at where they are at now. Hopefully she can finally get to realize her vision and start communicating with the fans more about what we should or shouldn't be expecting. (Sunday 17 August 2014; 22:59)

qhm, Ariaha (46,095) by 123 from USA Nevermind that you don't get that this is a Mariah board, you didn't get anything that I wrote. Whether we are upset at her absence promotion wise or just ecstatic that she finally released the album, most of us here have something in common, we are loyal to Mariah. I would rather discuss someone who you think is less talented (Rihanna) who doesn't disrespect or steal from Mariah then someone who does and be ok with it, only because in your opinion they are more talented. Talent doesn't equate respect. It is illegal to steal someone else's music, listen to Never Forget You and Almost Is Never Enough and tell me it is not the same song. You don't hear Mariah or her team saying disrespectful comments about Ariana but Ariana's manager wants to throw Mariah's name to promote Ariana and say she is the new Mariah and add "yeah I said it" after the comment, so that he can affirm that he doesn't care how it comes across. Her music is forgettable and there is nothing remarkable about her voice. There are plenty of singers that can sing her under a table. If you want to be a fan of her so be it, but don't come here discuss how great she is and expect everyone else to agree. (Sunday 17 August 2014; 22:47)

Mimi L. / Otti (46,094) by Abraham from USA You're so funny. Otti, great post. I agree, people should give Mariah a break and let her do and handle things her way. Fans should just continue to support her and hope for the best. Not having any hard feelings or being disappointed just because she didn't make anymore videos. Everything you stated was on point. It's nice to see someone who isn't so critical or on Mariah's back for her decisions or faults. Who is anyone to be questioning her on how she wants to handle her life or career? I know fans want the best for her, but why brag or complain about something that's over and done with. (Sunday 17 August 2014; 21:40)

Stacey (46,093) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Hey Stacey, thank you for your message. I'm glad you possess the common sense that's so often missing when people decide to share their thoughts and opinions online. It's amazing how quickly people try to come at you from a personal angle when you express an opinion they don't like, and then don't expect you to defend yourself. Lol. I'm still loving the album. Money is a very enjoyable jam, but atm my favourite song is Camouflage. I can hear Mariah's heart and soul on that joint. On a different note, I've always loved hearing your thoughts and opinions on this board. (Sunday 17 August 2014; 18:10)

Where are the lyrics that were promised by Mariah? (46,092) by Nina from USA I love the album and although I'm disappointed with Mariah's seeming lack of interest in promoting it, I'm most upset at the lack of lyrics. She always includes them and she promised them to us. Where are they? Come on Mariah. By the way, I do think something is going on with her and I really hope it's not medical. I hope she's not sick and that's why she didn't promote album. Also, I'm really baffled about why she has replaced her beautiful engagement ring with the butterfly ring. (Sunday 17 August 2014; 16:35)

The deafening silence (46,091) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines One quote in a review for MIAMTEC caught me. It states that Mariah is capable of 2 kinds of crazy: crazy brilliance or just plain crazy. The author was right. We all know the former. Woman can compose songs like nobody's business yet still remains underrated. Woman can still do marathons of impeccable runs that dem rivals and wannabes can only dream of. But she can also test the heck of out her fans. Surely, silence can mean a lot of things. But when you've just released one of your best works and stay mum about everything that goes wrong with it, all while remaining vocal and open about a bunch of other (mostly unrelated) stuff, there has to, there's just got to be a very good reason behind it. As a result, fans are left with no other choice than to speculate. And indeed we do. Very much so that a lot of times we've gotten way too creative. Could she be cooking up something special? Could there be a problem bigger than anyone would've thought? Could she actually be clueless of which next step to take? It's anybody's guess. I therefore add another to her capabilities: the ability to her drive even her most optimistic fans crazy. (Sunday 17 August 2014; 16:20)

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