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Re: post 45,917 by Ty (45,921) by Dove from USA That is unfortunate. If it were me I would have spent my own money to promote it, especially because it's so good. This could have been her big comeback album. I would rather have a good album with little promo over a mediocre album with tons of promo though. I just wish more people could hear this one. I just want her to go out with a bang instead of a whimper. (Thursday 7 August 2014; 16:09)

Turkish magazine interview (45,920) by Darryle from USA I read Mariah's interview for the Turkish magazine gay mag. I found it really interesting that she recorded most of the album with a sinus infection and that most of the vocals are demo versions that she decided to keep. Then just work on the production for those songs. So guess this explains the imperfections in the vocals. She kept them like that because she liked them. If you want to read the interview you can go to the Mariah Carey Community Facebook page or Vision Of Love Mariah tumblr page. (Thursday 7 August 2014; 14:54)

On JD and MC moving around on stage (45,919) by JC from UK I honestly think it was unfair and disrespectful of their friendship for Mariah to have JD as a scapegoat for all the hate that this era has gotten. Has everyone forgotten all of the things that JD has said during his interviews that everything that was happening will be addressed by MC and it's all in her "plan"? IMHO I think JD tried to do everything he thought should be done for this album to not flop as hard as it did but once again, MC didn't let him do his job because she wanted it done her way. She was convinced her "new" way of releasing the anticipated album would be a success. Then it happened, and nothing. I do agree that MC is probably surrounded by a group of enablers but someone has to tell her how it is whether she is a living legend or not. I think MC was oozing charisma and charm during the 90's because she had the confidence to go with her raw talent. She knew she could just open her mouth and a note would come out flawlessly. Nowadays we know her voice isn't the same, her insecurity has gotten the best of her and she tries to compensate by looking all sexy and glamorous on stage. Once MC get her body in check again and with proper motivation to sing live, I think she'll be ready to make a comeback. (Thursday 7 August 2014; 13:49)

Mimi L. (45,918) by MimiLamb from Germany All is good. Like I said Jermaine wasn't treated right at all, a lot took it way too far and blamed everything on him. It's just as much Mariah's fault. That's the thing for me the mistakes that were made are just as much hers as others. That's the reason why I don't get so upset. I'm like okay Mariah you have to live with that, you made that decision. Jermaine was and is a loyal friend and I hope that remains. It's true that Mariah doesn't address things but she never did so I don't expect her to start doing it now either. Again that's why I'm not getting upset because it's to be expected. I love the woman for 24 years but like us all she's human and no god, by doing certain things she proves just that. I would love to see a lot of things changed but I also know that the chances of her doing so are small (the long dresses, the insecurity of her looks, the not moving etc). So either I can accept her to be how she is or I can't. And I can because I just look back at all the years she is been a constant in my life, her music helping me through all kinds of situations so I just take what I get as long as we have her here doing what she does best. (Thursday 7 August 2014; 7:45)

(45,917) by Ty from USA I've met Mariah many times and know industry people who know her. Def Jam pulled the plug in promotion because Mariah went over budget on the cd. There was no more money to pour into this campaign. Mariah could have went on IG and made some snippets singing songs on the CD. She didn't. She could have done an unplugged in NYC for the fans. She didn't. This cd is a wrap. Her new concerts will be the same setlist with 3 songs added as she always does with pre-recorded vocals because [censored] and her voice has changed. We except this and we move on. [censored] It's time to let go. She's a wife and mother now and music no longer comes first. How about [censored] and leave her alone. (Thursday 7 August 2014; 2:36)

Producers (45,916) by THE TRUTH from USA I have no idea who or what "Hitfix" is, who died and made them an authority on anything? For sure they need a new handle. As far as producers, one out of six won't get you very far. Yes to Pharell and Rick Rubin although I doubt her antics would go over well with Rick. Why don't people give it a rest? Let MC go away for awhile, regroup and come back with a vengeance rather than a fading whimper. (Thursday 7 August 2014; 1:21)

May (45,915) by Dove from USA I completely agree with your post about WH and MJ. I feel that now that MC has kids and is getting older she is going to want to slow down a lot. I want her to have one more very successful era with a new album full of great songs, amazing performances, creative and fun videos, beautiful clothes, lots of promo, etc. I want her to go out with a bang. Maybe with three or seven more number ones under her belt. When I say go out with a bang, I don't mean fully retire. I mean after the big comeback she can just announce she's becoming a studio artist (in order to spend more time with her kids) and just release music whenever she feels like it independently. (Thursday 7 August 2014; 1:13)

No Carla (45,914) by May from Denmark Thanks to you too. I knew a little about him but I went to look for more and reliable info. Like you said, we learn something new every day so your question was good. (Thursday 7 August 2014; 0:35)

They will never be forgotten (45,913) by May from Denmark At Carlos Belizário. They will never be forgotten, because they are dead. Sounds awful, sounds sad, but is the truth. Maybe MJ did have a slightly better reputation than Whitney when he died thanks to his last appearances where he still had the moves and the voice. But he was being forgotten, the only reason why he was still being mentioned was due to his financial problems. Whitney was completely forgotten. Her last album didn't do that great, her voice was completely ragged and worst of all she fell again into drugs and her daughter was not doing well either (thankfully she is fully recovered and she is looking great). After her live failures (where she forgot the lyrics often, would talk nonsense, would leave mid stage, etc. etc. of terrible behavioral issues) she was left aside, people didn't want to know anymore Whitney, the only places she would be mentioned and only as a mockery was TMZ and Perez Hilton, where the commentary section would be enough to stay completely away from those sites. Both got "revivals" because they died. They had amazing beginnings, incredible mid careers but both fell, deep, in a whole. And MJ accusations about abuse keep even arousing after his dead, true or not, it doesn't matter, he was stained. MC can do much better than that. If anything, tho I don't want her to retire (like ever) if she ever does, she should do it with grace and with great music out, so if anytime people remembers her, it would be as the best from begin to end. (Thursday 7 August 2014; 0:29)

JD's dismissal (45,912) by Marissa from USA If I were JD I would have dismissed myself from being Mariah's manager. He was the scapegoat for every single negative thing that happened from 2013-now. I feel like he had big plans but was not allowed to fully do his job. Like someone said on here, her firing JD shows that she realizes that things definitely are not working out for the best, so at least she is not completely in la-la land about the situation. (Thursday 7 August 2014; 0:17)

Huge promotion errors (45,911) by Terri from USA I think it was a mistake that MC hired JD as her manager. I think their collaboration status worked well all these years, as it was. I think JD's expertise is in production not promotion. As manager it was his job to oversee everything, he has to take responsibility. I think he was over his head this time. MC, like every artist, once she leaves the studio she relies on her staff to do their jobs. I live in Orlando FL and as of this date I have not heard one song since the cd's release, not one. The only time I heard "You don't know what to do" was on New York NBC Today's morning show in May when she opened the summer concert series and it was really good. I kept/keep waiting to hear it on the radio and nothing. That is simply unheard of and and unforgivable, a sure sign of extreme mismanagement. I still don't understand how the music is getting no airplay. If I was MC I would be very pissed and very embarassed. BTW, about her being sexy, she is demure compared to most artists out there. She does have diva-ness sewed up , but she's no more sexy than others. (Thursday 7 August 2014; 0:07)

Mariah Carey's main albums from best to worst: updated scores plus number of outstanding tracks per album (45,910) by Loris from Italy MIAMTEC: 89/100 (12) Butterfly: 88/100 (8) Daydream: 87/100 (8) Music Box: 79/100 (7) Mariah Carey: 78/100 (7) Emotions: 77/100 (7) TEOM: 73/100 (5) Charmbracelet: 72/100 (6) MOAIA: 69/100 (6) Rainbow: 66/100 (3) E=MC˛ : 65/100 (4) (Wednesday 6 August 2014; 23:35)

Reality show (45,909) by Dove from USA I agree that it's hard to connect with MC nowadays. The reason I like the song Side Effects is because it's real. This is her experience and many of us have felt this way in a relationship. Of course I would not want Mariah to stay in a situation where she was so unhappy and I'm glad that she got out. I don't condone her ex-husband trying to sabotage her during the Glitter era but I can understand why he would. I'm not a vindictive person myself but I've been around plenty of people who are and have seen people do some crazy stuff to hurt their exes. And these weren't bad people. I know Mariah would not risk the criticism that comes from putting yourself out there this way but I wish she would do a show on Oprah's network like the one the Judds had. I was watching a few episodes and it made me connect with them and like them. I love Marilyn Monroe and The Beatles and I always look up old interviews and books to learn more about them as people. Something really raw and transparent would be cool for the people of the future to watch to know her more as a real person. I know she probably wouldn't. Just an idea. (Wednesday 6 August 2014; 23:33)

Marketing (45,908) by Dove from USA Just to be clear my loyalties do lie with MC even though my previous post makes it seem otherwise. I just like to look at things from different angles. Even MC has thanked Tommy for his support at the beginning of her career. We're all human and doing the best we can, nobody is completely good or bad. We can't underestimate the power of marketing and having the right people on your team has on commercial success. I don't have anything to add about JD except I agree with what Mimi L wrote in her post. Also, I wish MC would say what her plans are so that we can know what to look forward to or if we should even be looking forward to anything. (Wednesday 6 August 2014; 23:01)

Laughable (45,907) by Carlos Belizário from Brazil Some arguments here are really silly and laughable. Some lambs are saying Mariah's iconic/legendary status are being compromised by "eternaly 12" stuff or any other bull**** the press always say. What about MJ and Whitney? They were both surrounded by many many problems and jokes and will never be forgotten. Just like Mimi. That only agregates in their "troubled genius" status. (Wednesday 6 August 2014; 22:52)

Re: May from Denmark (45,906) by Carol from Spain Thank You so much for your explanation. I feel happier now, knowing he really has a such an amazing background. We learn everyday. (Wednesday 6 August 2014; 21:41)

MimiLamb (45,904) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I think it's great that you are able to always hold on to positive things even amidst a cloud of negative things. Not many of us can do that. I hope you understand that my post was not a diss, it was just my opinions and my reasons as to why I sided with JD. But yes, you are right, we all should remember what MC means to us. Trust me when I say this, I love the woman way too much. But some things she does also bothers me. That's all. Love and peace. (Wednesday 6 August 2014; 21:07)

Adam (45,903) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter "Disrespected", that's exactly the word I was looking for but at the time I wrote my post I messed up. You are right, it's disrespectful to the fans that Mariah is all over twitter and instagram and even facebook, posting pictures randomly "in the pool", "in the tub", "at the subway" and all that but not a post about what the fans really wanted to know. She is one of those celebrities who is always on social media. But yet, it was JD who was posting about Mariah's work in his twitter and facebook. People go on saying JD wasn't promoting her properly and that he doesn't know what to do, however in my opinion JD was doing the best he could without having to force MC to go out and promote the album when she clearly didn't want to do it. JD was all over social media, he was on the radio, he was in magazine articles and on TV, on the red carpet talking about the album. That's the most he can do if Mariah refuses to step out and talk. Then the accusation that JD took MC to sing for a dictator, seriously? If MC wasn't aware of the situation then why not believe that JD didn't know about it too? Mariah would never perform anywhere she doesn't want to. I am not saying she willingly performed for them, I am saying if she misunderstood the situation, chances are that JD didn't know about it too. People loved MC because they could relate to her, she felt like a friend, now she has distanced herself so much, fans are finding it hard to connect. (Wednesday 6 August 2014; 21:03)

"Jacuzzi chat with Mariah Carey" (45,902) by Me. I am Carly from USA I know it may sound far fetched but how sweet would it be to have a cable show (like comedians in cars getting coffee with Jerry Seinfeld) called "Jacuzzi chat with Mariah Carey"? It would be Mariah in her jacuzzi chatting with musicians about music, sharing stories and singing acapella. Mariah would have a different bikini every time lol. (Wednesday 6 August 2014; 20:52)

Tommy Mottola (45,901) by Dove from USA I feel like he does deserve a lot of credit. He allocated a ton of resources on developing and especially promoting her when she was starting out. Other artists on the label were complaining that they weren't getting attention because Tommy's main focus was making Mariah as big as Michael Jackson. He truly believed in her talent when many other record companies didn't. He had the pull, resources, and experience to propell her to stardom from the beginning. I believe she would have still made it without him, because she is undoubtedly a unique talent, but not as far. She's a living legend. I don't think he gets enough credit. She wanted commercial success and he helped her get it. He knew what the people wanted and he gave it to them. I can't speak on their private life because I wasn't there but business-wise he got results. Maybe later her vision changed and she felt like she wasn't allowed to express herself as an individual or as an artist and so she left. Maybe he did try to sabatoge her with Glitter but maybe she broke his heart. Haven't we all done crazy things when someone breaks our heart? With his new wife, I believe he could have made her a huge star. She is gorgeous and charming. I think he learned from his mistakes with Mariah and chose not to have a big part in her career outside of giving advice. His new wife said in an interview she would rather focus on her family than work. She works for fun, that family is recession proof. (Wednesday 6 August 2014; 20:29)

Agree this_is_qhm (45,900) by May from Denmark I also thought the same a couple of times, that the reason why she is surrounded by enablers since a good while is because they give her the freedom she always wanted. I think that being capable of taking suggestions and listening and accepting different ideas also is good but right now don't think there is anyone who would tell her otherwise. Maybe this new manager might help, I agree with Shelly that a new complete album should be made, also in part cause while I would have liked a re-release with some new music truth is that nothing of quality will be ready in time as her upcoming tour is near. (Wednesday 6 August 2014; 20:12)

Nikki (45,899) by May from Denmark Actually Thalia is considered a legend in Latin America. She was already big before Mottola but her music career was dormant for long and she was into other projects. When he took over her career she finally became a credible true singer. She used to sing live in the beginning of her career but her lack of training on stage for live sing and movement made her end up doing lip-synch for the remain of her career as a singer. Mottola made her release her first album completely live with live taped coverage as well, her comeback was big and she had a few hits, even Obama invited her to perform at the White House for a special event. He wasn't fired from Sony for not performing well but because he was having beef with another executive from the company, and another person from NBC helped get Tommy out but because it happened around the time that Michael Jackson left Sony, the rumors ran that it was because of him, when it wasn't. Regarding Usher, it was Usher's own mother who fired Mottola, he helped Usher get his album out and was selling good but his mother wanted full control back, she is a very controlling person and wanted to manage her son back. When he was with Lindsay he helped her land some contracts when nobody wanted her anymore but to be honest, no one can help that woman, she sabotages herself every time. Then he was in a talent search, didn't go well, wrote that book that landed good reviews (who knows why, it wasn't interesting) and dedicated to his family. (Wednesday 6 August 2014; 20:09)

Mimi L. (45,898) by MimiLamb from Germany Yes my post was in general and to nobody in person, if that would have been the case I would have put the name in the subject. It's just my opinion about the subject. I never said that Mariah is not making mistakes at all, because she does and plenty at that. Yes Jermaine tried again I never said he didn't. I never was against him I just never thought it was a good idea. Yes he got bashed by a lot of fans that was bad enough, he lashed out because of it himself calling the lambs dumb. But I understood because he was pushed in this position. Again I never never never said he didn't do his job right. I know that a lot get tired of me always being positive but to be honest I don't mind, I just learned to never see the negativity only. Every subject surrounding Mariah is heavenly criticized at the moment every little thing being put under a magnifying glass to a point were the positive things how little they may be are ignored or not seen, so I want to bring that positivity here and there because at the end of the day we shouldn't forget what Mariah means to us either. (Wednesday 6 August 2014; 20:05)

Debut album - legacy edition (45,897) by Bill from the UK Several years back Sony planned to re-release the debut album in a "legacy edition". It was mentioned in the press and appeared on some release schedules but never actually arrived. I hope they reignite this for her 25th year. It could be remastered and include some bonus remixes from that time, The First Vision on DVD/Blu ray, and the icing on the cake would be the original legendary demo tape. The same tape which was so captivating that it made Tommy order his driver to turn his car around to find the owner of that incredible voice. (Wednesday 6 August 2014; 18:14)

MC's attitude on her fans vs. social media (45,896) by ADAM from USA Mimi L, I couldn't agree more with your post earlier about JD. While we'll never know what truly happened behind the scenes, I always felt grateful for the fact JD was the one on Twitter or interviews giving us any updates about MC's music. I can't remember anyone of MC's earlier managers ever doing the same nor Mariah connecting with the fans about her music. I feel disrespected by that and that it shows Mariah doesn't care about her fans the way she says she does. Otherwise why let JD take the heat from critics and fans when she could sent a tweet or pic disputing it? We all know how she loves to gloat on Instagram in pics of herself or her kids, so it's not like she's not social media savvy. I think lambs need to wake up and see Mariah for who she really is and not make her the victim. She is clearly not communicating with her fans. She makes time to take tons of selfies, chill with B. Scott, makeup team, kids, etc why not tweet your fans to share the love and inform us what's happening with your music and tour? (Wednesday 6 August 2014; 18:05)

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