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Get over it already (36,134) by Lyric from USA The criticism of people on this site needs to stop. A fan doesn't need to like or support every career choice Mariah makes. There is a difference between a "stan" and a "fan". Stans tend to accuse fans of not being true when they are just brave enough to speak out about Mariah's mistakes. Just because some people are comfortable kissing ass, doesn't mean everyone has to be. Get over yourselves. I don't like Triumphant, I don't like the video, I don't like Memoirs. And I am still a FAN. (Sunday 26 August 2012; 11:57)

Memoirs (36,133) by TJ from Norway I love that album. Love it. If only Obsessed was removed. I love the remixes of that album and hope that they release it someday. My fav songs: If it's over, Till the end of time and Fantasy My fav live performances: If it's over (SNL), Joy to the world (live at St. John the Devine) and Emotions (Here is Mariah Carey). My fav remixes: Fantasy (Def Club Mix), Dreamlover (Def Club Mix) and Say somethin' (Morales Radio Edit) My fav albums: Music Box, TEOM and Emotions My fav videos: Breakdown, The roof and It's like that My fav high notes: All in your mind, There's got to be a way and Do you know where you're going to BTW: I like the remixes of Triumphant (Sunday 26 August 2012; 10:36)

Grumpy goats (36,132) by jason from USA Seriously, you all act like your life depends on her success so much, so she tweeted that she is taking time out to play "Grumpy Goats" aka Lambs. (Sunday 26 August 2012; 9:52)

Angels Cry / Now That I Know (36,131) by Stacey from USA That's one song I've had on a CD I made a long time ago. I forgot how great that song is. Another shout out to Till The End Of Time. Oh my, just love that song. You know another uptempo that that often gets forgotten because it's on the ballad-heavy Music Box album is Now That I Know. Good one. Great vocals. (Sunday 26 August 2012; 6:46)

Mariah: double studio album (36,130) by Edge McQueen from Philippines I am still wishing for the day that Mariah will release a double studio album. Perhaps she can name each CD with a different title. She could release two singles simultaneously for R&B/urban and for pop/AC. She is so talented that she can produce more songs for this era, I mean it will be almost 4 years since MOAIA when her new album drops on March 2013. So a double CD would be a great treat. I know some would complain about quantity over quality, but I'm pretty sure a lot of lambs will enjoy a double CD. I'm not suggesting that she create something like "I Am... Sasha Fierce", because several other artists have produced double albums like Smashing Pumkins in '95 and Nelly in '03. Those albums were successful too. I just thought MC should make her own double CD because she has so much to offer! Plus more singles and more videos. But then again, this is just wishful thinking. (Sunday 26 August 2012; 5:58)

Enwar/Angels Cry (36,128) by Special K from USA Angels Cry is the perfect example of a classic contemporary Mariah Carey song. The first time I heard that song I was hooked. (Sunday 26 August 2012; 5:16)

Goats (36,127) by lashonda collins from usa I guess I know now why Mariah says there are lambs, and then there are goats. Lots of goats here. I've been a fan the entire 22 years and I'm just as supportive of all Mariah's endeavors now as I was even fifteen years ago. This has turned into a pretty sad site. Besides the news, this messageboard is not even a place I want to see much of, you guys just love her when she's on top of the world, don't you? God forbid she loses a bit of that shine and everyone gets on a soapbox. You try walking around a boxing ring with a two peice hot pants outfit and look as hot as Mimi. Peace out. (Sunday 26 August 2012; 4:51)

Angels Cry (36,125) by enwar00 from usa So I'm on VEVO and was listening to different songs on headphones and watched the Triumphant video and so you know how all Mariah's videos are listed there? So I felt like watching Angels Cry because I'd only seen it a couple times before, and now I'm repeating it for the 3rd time. This song sounds so good right now, I know random, and I never paid much attention to the lyrics till right now, I feel like pulling out the Memoirs booklet, listening to it on headphones and passing out. Does anyone else feel like its such a chill and relaxing album like that? And I have to say, I used to fall asleep listening to Music Box, Daydream and Butterfly back in the day too, and it reminds me of that. Just thought I'd share. (Sunday 26 August 2012; 0:06)

Thoughts (36,124) by Stacey from USA We are all fans. I don't proclaim to be a die-hard fan, I am one. Period. The audacity of some to question another's dedication to MC blows my mind. Who do some of you guys think you are? Ugh. If I don't like something, I am going to say it. That does not change my support of MC. Crap, I've been a fan longer than most of you have been alive, lol. Believe it. I love how quickly folks judge others as fairweather fans based on one opinion of a song, one opinion. You mean to tell me you love every version of every song she's ever recorded? There is not a song out there you don't like? Yeah ok. I don't expect MC to hit #1 each time. Most of the songs I've listened to recently weren't #1. She's been so successful for so long, I honestly don't care if she hits #1 or not. I live in reality. MC has proven herself. I just want the material to be good, and to me, this falls far below the calibar of music I know she is capable of producing. I don't come here to get people, to be negative all the time. I come here to chat and have some fun. I don't recall those who like the song getting slammed, having their fan status called into question. It's just us who've expressed a dissenting opinion that get the snide remarks thrown at us. Enough. (Saturday 25 August 2012; 23:45)

NFL Live performance (36,123) by M from USA I just wanted to say that I think MC is going to do a stellar performance of her new single or "buzz cut" as some want to call it. If it has a video, it's an official single. I hope this performance will give "Triumphant" a major boost in sales and radio airplay. I will always support any song, album that Mariah releases. Why? because that's what the lambily does and should do. Stop complaining and get requesting online and on the phone. Fav song: Forever Most underrated single: Loving you long time Fav duet that should have been at least a top 10 hit: Angels cry Fav live performance: Make it happen (Madison Square Garden) Fav Album: Butterfly Fav perfume: Forever Fav style or era: E=MC squared Fav video: Touch my body Fav Club Mix: H.A.T.E.U (jumpsmokers) Fav album cover: Daydream Fav guest rapper: Bone Thugs and Harmony Fav remix: Heartbreaker (Missy Elliot) Fav song from movie: Lead the way Fav movie: Tennessee Fav high note: I stay in love (Saturday 25 August 2012; 22:57)

Enwar (36,122) by Nattalie from USA One's smells decayed and the other isnt. Lol. Jk. Lame joke I know, but I'm bored. (Saturday 25 August 2012; 22:48)

Rod/Jenny (36,121) by RibbonB from USA Thanks. I know I'm wishing for the best for this song and all the rest to come. They will need all fan support. Tug or wars only lead to stagnation/fails and frustration. (Saturday 25 August 2012; 19:56)

Fan criteria (36,120) by enwar00 from usa What's an old fan vs. new fan (Saturday 25 August 2012; 18:24)

RadChad (36,119) by Jenny from South Africa Well said. Totally agree with you. (Saturday 25 August 2012; 18:07)

Lashonda (36,118) by RadChad from United States I couldn't agree more. It's almost like it isn't a fan site anymore, but more of a bash site. It's a lil disheartening to come here and see Mariah getting dragged by her own fans, while the public does the same. I actually like the new song now as well, after just listening and giving it a fair unbiased chance. I understand that we all aren't going like every Mariah song the same, but I do believe as fans we shouldn't be so quick to count her out/give up on her, but go that extra mile to give where she is musically a fair chance. If we love and respect her as an artist and she wants to make a song about being triumphant, then why can't we put our bias opinions about what we want her to do musically aside and try to understand why she felt the need to release this song. As long as the music is honest, then people or self proclaimed fans shouldn't unapologetically drag her through the mud and prophecy doom on her career. (Saturday 25 August 2012; 17:44)

Charts (36,117) by Jenny from South Africa Hey guys. RibbonB, I always agree with your opinions. I love how positive you are. You always make me feel proud to be a Mariah fan and you make me smile. Anyway, I just wanted to point out that even though whenever MC hits number 1 I am insanely happy for her, I really don't think chart positions are the be-all and end-all at this point in her career. She's already had more number 1's that any other solo artist and she's broken plenty of records in her heyday. I really don't think she has anything to prove any more and I think she feels like that too. I'm glad she is making music that she loves and is proud of. She used to always bend over backwards trying to please everyone, which led to her exhaustion in 2001 and I'm glad she's putting herself first now. As a fellow people-pleaser, I have to say it's stressful and tiring. Not everyone is going to love all her songs. Everyone has unique tastes. And radio does prefer to play the younger artists like Rihanna and Katy Perry. And there are still fans out there who love her new music. Just check her twitter mentions. (Saturday 25 August 2012; 16:53)

Get em (36,116) by lashonda collins from usa It's really discouraging to see so many people, even lambs, hate on the new single. What in the ham sandwhich is wrong with people? Give Mimi a break. The song is hot tamale, I've been waiting a long time now to hear a song from her about making things happen. This song was released when I needed Mariah to inspire me to get off the ropes. And she did. Is the song that terrible? Come on. (Saturday 25 August 2012; 14:53)

Triumphant (Get 'Em) airplay update (36,115) by Rod from Philippines Triumphant (Get 'Em)'s airplay just crossed the 5 million mark today on MediaBase. It's currently at 5.216 million. It gained a 0.251 million impressions from yesterday's airplay. A big chunk (about 65%) of the total is from Urban and the rest is Rhythmic (about 34%) and others (1%). I hope airplay continues to increase and that the dance remixes be sent and added to Pop. (Saturday 25 August 2012; 14:21)

Re: Flaws/perception (36,114) by Rod from Philippines You hit the nail right on the head, RibbonB, with your half empty glass analogy. Most fans (self-proclaimed die hards or not) live inside this Mariah #1 bubble. That if a Mariah song, once it's released, doesn't go to number #1 instantly or if it struggles to debut on or even move its way up the charts given the circumstances at hand or the factors that come into play (which most, if not all, self-proclaimed die hard fans STILL, up to this day, have absolutely no idea of), they are the first ones to call it a flop and to ask for the next single to be released. What I find more disturbing though is that their liking for a Mariah song depends on its chart position or the absence of which. Another thing about these so called "die hard Mariah fans" that never fails to wrinkle my brow is that eventhough they have been Mariah fans for so long, have listened to her CDs, have watched her music videos, performances and interviews and have heard/seen her sing/perform live countless of times (and maybe have interacted with Mariah in person), they still can't seem to get into Mariah's head (and heart) after all these years. They are oblivious when Mariah is being serious or just having fun or even making fun of herself by poking fun at her flaws or insecurities. I guess it just really takes a "crazy" person to know one. (Saturday 25 August 2012; 13:22)

Stacey (36,113) by TJ from Norway I couldn't agree more. It's like that in her live performances as well. I was watching the good old "Here is Mariah Carey" when she sang Without You. She even carried her own microphone stand on stage. She didn't care if she made facial expressions while singing at that point of her career. She walked (stairs ), sang and was more natural on the stage. Today she is always on these high heals and need help to get around. I do love her music, and I always defend her in discussions with friends, but sometimes it's hard to defend her choice to look like a Barbie doll. (Saturday 25 August 2012; 10:50)

Mariah's too humble (36,112) by darnell from United States I think Mariah's problem is she's too humble. For some reason she doesn't realize who she is. I don't think she realizes that she's on MJ's level as far as icon status and people expect certain things from her. Or maybe she doesn't care. I don't hate Triumphant but it definitely shouldn't have been a lead single. It's more than likely a buzz single. I just think Mariah should take herself and her career more seriously. (Saturday 25 August 2012; 6:26)

Flaws/perception (36,111) by RibbonB from USA Lol the video flaws were intentional and tongue in cheek. That's how I read it and why I find the video so intriguing. All of Mariah's incarnations in the video are exaggerated and over posed and I love the off beat stomp at the end and the weak jab makes me laugh. Mariah is a good acctress, so when she exaggerates her diva pose walking into the ring I just laugh and cheer. The video is fun and happily number three most viewed on Vevo for the past couple days. Geezy, you can see this as a disaster if you will, but so many fans do not. It's always sad when some see the glass half empty and others see it half full, but worse when some want to just empty the glass and start over. It's Mariahs proverbial glass and she's staying on her toes. (Saturday 25 August 2012; 5:38)

Lee/Stacey (36,110) by Bsquared from USA I think Perez has been pretty nice to MC lately and Stacey, you are so right, Triumphant just feels so flat and uninspired. (Saturday 25 August 2012; 2:10)

Looking forward (36,109) by Geezy from USA by way of NYC I feel like we can officially call Triumphant a major disappointment and disaster from looks of the charts and the majority of the reviews. Now looking forward, I can hope that Mimi and her team are putting the proper game plan in place. Also in order for this new era to be a success, Mariah must deliver better quality songs, videos, and performances. She must realize that she is cut from a different cloth compared to today's female pop stars and even though it's not fair, she has set a bar so high that when an album or song doesn't match or out perform the previous effort, it will always be deemed a flop or failure. That's just how things go in the music world and the world of Mariah Carey. (Saturday 25 August 2012; 1:50)

Interesting thought, Triumphant video (36,108) by Stacey from USA I got this from another die-hard MC fan on another fan site. I think it's a deep interpretation of how a lot of us feel about the video: "Oh dear, she's like a mannequin. Honestly the more she tries to pose exactly right to cover any 'flaws', the more it looks like she has a zillion flaws to cover, when in reality she's a gorgeous woman. I wish she'd realize it and stop being afraid of imperfection." Amen. (Saturday 25 August 2012; 1:43)

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