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About Bill from the UK: I love Mariah more than you do. London Daydream Tour Attendee.

Re: Mariah needs to recover her voice and stop touring (92,896) (92,903) by Bill from the UK I have my suspicions about the Daydream tour though. There are some clear playback parts in Tokyo and when listening to the (awful) recordings of the European dates, some notes and ad libs are exactly the same every single night. So I do question whether she truly flat out sang 15 of her songs back to back in one evening with zero support. I think it's just her voice was on par with the playback back then so it was hard to detect. Whereas now we get a barked one note in speaking range "eh" followed by a multi octave run of "it's a chance I've got to taa-ee-yaa-aaaaa-eee-aaaaa-aaaa-eeee-yaaaaakeee" where it's clearly lipped. (Monday 17 February 2020; 16:17)

Re: No vocal audit (92,880) (92,885) by Bill from the UK I love how it's now Andre vs. Andrew. (Sunday 16 February 2020; 15:09)

Re: Bill (92,881) (92,884) by Bill from the UK Okay, thank you, that's nice of you. I guess the frustrations are felt on both sides. But Endless Love with Trey was really good the other day. (Sunday 16 February 2020; 13:02)

Re: Bill (92,867) (92,875) by Bill from the UK "I do mind when people become blatantly frustrated by their own shortcomings and project them onto people way above their own achievements." Was that in reference to my post? If so, I came to terms with my injury and found a very rewarding job as a coach. The analogy I'd use there is MC coming to terms with where she's at vocally and perhaps instead focus on being a songwriter, or at least sing in her range she has (and Caution was a step in the right direction). It's almost as if Mariah is very gradually, with every album, toning it down so that she can eventually sing in her remaining range. But the lambs will keep baying for more whistles, more number ones, and more sales. "Well here I am, for all of them to bleed". Never a truer phrase ever sung by Mariah. Shame on you all. (Saturday 15 February 2020; 09:56)

Re: O Holy Night (92,853) (92,862) by Bill from the UK So, proving my point somewhat, the majority of that performance was a backing track. (Friday 14 February 2020; 19:45)

Re: Bill (92,849) (92,850) by Bill from the UK I don't think being honest and realistic about a situation is necessarily negative. It's a fact and it is what it is. I love Mariah dearly but my concern is more around what this facade is doing for someone who has said she is insecure and is mentally unwell enough to be diagnosed with bipolar. Just as she stopped enabling Alison all those years ago, I think we are (and forgive the dramatic turn of phrase) but killing her with kindness. If every time she gets up on stage and lip syncs another number we respond with "yas queen slay I don't know her" then it only heightens her insecurities and instabilities. Any true fan, that genuinely cares for her as a person rather than a commodity to score number 1s so you can throw it in Ariana's fans faces, would be happy for her to come clean and remove that burden. I used to be a very successful swimmer in my youth, to the point that I was in training for the Olympics. However, an accident at work damaged my shoulder which meant my swimming career was over immediately. I don't re-run clips of me in the pool winning medals from 1999 and say it was filmed yesterday. It's a sad, unfortunate event but it happened. Much as Mariah losing her voice all those years ago was. It does annoy me when the first response is to stick your fingers in your ear and call me negative, when really I am speaking the truth here. Nothing I said was made up, it's just that the truth hurts when it's about somebody you love, which is understandable. (Friday 14 February 2020; 15:02)

Re: Andrew (92,845) (92,848) by Bill from the UK "Her breathy vocals, low notes, mid notes, falsetto and her whistle register are on fire. And she can still reach those high notes." In honestly, they aren't and she can't. And you know that (no one is that delusional/gullible, surely?). Mariah cannot get through one song without playback or lip syncing, and she hasn't sung a live whistle note in at least five years. It's great that you defend and support her, but stop lying. (Friday 14 February 2020; 14:06)

Re: In The Fix (92,835) (92,843) by Bill from the UK Noodles lol. (Friday 14 February 2020; 07:22)

Re: The problem with Mariah (92,796) (92,807) by Bill from the UK Lol, has it really got so bad that we now praise her speaking voice? Heavens to Betsy. (Tuesday 11 February 2020; 13:04)

Re: Vocal decline (92,790) (92,791) by Bill from the UK Since you put it that way, honey I'm gonna stay. (Monday 10 February 2020; 18:11)

I Had a Vision of Love (92,784) by Bill from the UK I've been thinking about the memoir. I've seen it written here by fans on several occasions that they would like her to address the vocal decline. There are two schools of thought around the cause: entirely self-inflicted through alcohol, marijuana and other substance abuse/over indulgence, or an entirely unavoidable and uncontrollable natural decline caused through years upon years of straining her voice through bad/unwise technique and having to live up to the expectation to sing in the manner that made her so famous. My question to you is, let's say Mariah did address this issue, came clean once and for all, and with the statement, announced her retirement from singing. How would you feel about it? Would you feel relieved, happy for her bravery, annoyed, cheated, heartbroken? Imagine the relief it would give her, to end the charade and focus on songwriting and raising her children. Her career of 30 years will never be matched by anybody. The legacy she would leave would be something that would be referenced for generations after we have all left this world. Her accolades, awards, recognitions, and citations would never be challenged. She has had an amazing career. The title of the memoir is what got me thinking about this. It would be like the circle has closed. The "vision of love" was her career, she had it, and (as per the last line of the song), it has now gone away. It would be an incredibly poignant and respectable exit from an industry that she has forever changed and dominated since her debut. Her back catalogue is a treasure trove of wonderful music, beautifully composed and put together with intricate, intelligent song writing. I think it would be an incredibly sad, but sincere and perfect end to her career. It's either that, or more years of her in a sparkly leotard atop a chaise lounge barking out "eh". (Sunday 9 February 2020; 21:08)

Re: The problem with Mariah (92,776) (92,783) by Bill from the UK Hmmm. I don't think "slay" is the right adjective here. But Scott's completely right, the voice isn't there and the constant touring only highlights that she cannot replicate her work live without an awful lot of smoke and mirrors these days. She's now done far more ropey performances than good ones. Part of me thinks she should just hang up the jewel encrusted malfunctioning ear piece and be done with it. Sit back, raise the children, write songs for other people, and watch the dollars hit the bank account every month. (Sunday 9 February 2020; 18:54)

Re: New music (92,775) (92,782) by Bill from the UK Haha, he'd have retired by the time they collaborate. I don't see what the appeal is with him to be honest. (Sunday 9 February 2020; 18:51)

Re: New music (92,771) (92,773) by Bill from the UK Ric Wake is British and produced There's Got to Be a Way, Someday, All In Your Mind and Prisoner from the debut album. He also co-wrote TGTBAW with Mariah, and three other songs at the time, but only the one made it onto the album. Steve Mac also produced the Westlife version of Against All Odds. There's probably others. But you're right, she predominantly sticks with US producers. (Sunday 9 February 2020; 01:25)

Re: New music (92,770) (92,772) by Bill from the UK I loved #1s, especially the UK getting DYKWYGT as a bonus track. By better, I mean either a different, more meaningful song selection (not the same old hits we get on every compilation), and more than 4 and a half new songs. (Sunday 9 February 2020; 00:14)

Re: New music (92,767) (92,769) by Bill from the UK Thank you for not saying Bruno Mars. (Saturday 8 February 2020; 21:52)

Re: New music (92,763) (92,765) by Bill from the UK I hope there is some sort of tie in with the release of the memoirs. Either an anniversary edition of the debut, or a compilation album (with new material accompanying classic hits, like a better version of #1s). (Saturday 8 February 2020; 17:57)

Superbowl set list (92,739) by Bill from the UK Here's how things should go at the Superbowl: The crowd dampens down as anticipation slowly builds. After a few moments, Mariah can be heard cooing "I really hope when you hear this song, that you're happy with someone else." The lights come on and Mariah bursts into a lipped rendition of the Rainbow classic Did I Do That? With the crowd still jumping, she effortlessly segues into a lipped version of Charmbracelet's charm offensive Boy (I Need You). Mariah is picked up by the shirtless backing dancers and plonked onto a chaise lounge where she is spun 180 degrees in the air. With her back to the audience, a helicopter descends and out comes Rick Ross. The pair perform their iconic duet Can't Say No before a wowed audience. Mariah is lowered back to the floor and ambled into position to lip her Songwriter's Hall of Fame inductee, Infinity. The audience sing along to this popular and infectious smash hit, and then, lo, French Montana, Justin Bieber and TI emerge from the sidelines to grace the crowd with their career defining collaboration of Why You Mad? The song is over, the lights lowered and, whilst fiddling incessantly with her ear piece, Mariah starts purring the opening to Infamous, and with Jussie Smollet in tow, brings the house down with their critically lauded duet. Finally, in a nod to the past, Mariah barks out AIWFCIY (Tree Lighting Edition), and asks the crowd "Y'all know this one?" At that, she spins on her heel and is wheeled off to the Butterfly Outro, barely heard above the rapturous crowd and deafening applause. The performance is then released to the Billboard R&B Female Over 40 but Under 50 Bubbling Under Chart, where it reaches pole position instantly. (Thursday 6 February 2020; 15:08)

Re: Roc Nation (92,713) (92,714) by Bill from the UK Come on now, glass houses and all that. Mariah's had lots of questionable outfits and performances in her time. Thankfully she seems back on track now, but look no further than the nightmare era for all the "receipts". (Monday 3 February 2020; 22:30)

Re: Roc Nation (92,708) (92,711) by Bill from the UK It's too big an audience. If she messes up or lips she will never live it down. Stick to Vegas. (Monday 3 February 2020; 20:19)

Re: Hip pop (92,699) (92,701) by Bill from the UK That's just fab. (Sunday 2 February 2020; 15:09)

Re: Hip pop (92,696) (92,700) by Bill from the UK I said "not that it's a bad thing". (Sunday 2 February 2020; 15:09)

Re: Breakdown video (92,686) (92,691) by Bill from the UK Agree. All the videos from Butterfly were amazing. They were sexy indeed, but, especially for Breakdown and The Roof, there was an understated elegance to them. (Saturday 1 February 2020; 20:12)

Re: Hip pop (92,685) (92,690) by Bill from the UK That's debatable. Her sales have never been at the level they were since she fully incorporated hip hop into her sound. Not that it's a bad thing. (Saturday 1 February 2020; 20:09)

Re: Iconic photoshoots (92,668) (92,670) by Bill from the UK Nice topic. For me some iconic shots of MC I love are the microphone pic from the debut album, the Rainbow album cover, and the Merry Christmas album cover and associated pictures from the shoot. (Thursday 30 January 2020; 17:48)

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