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About Bill from the UK: I love Mariah more than you do. London Daydream Tour Attendee.

Re: O Holy Night (92,853) (92,862) by Bill from the UK So, proving my point somewhat, the majority of that performance was a backing track. (Friday 14 February 2020; 19:45)

Re: Bill (92,849) (92,850) by Bill from the UK I don't think being honest and realistic about a situation is necessarily negative. It's a fact and it is what it is. I love Mariah dearly but my concern is more around what this facade is doing for someone who has said she is insecure and is mentally unwell enough to be diagnosed with bipolar. Just as she stopped enabling Alison all those years ago, I think we are (and forgive the dramatic turn of phrase) but killing her with kindness. If every time she gets up on stage and lip syncs another number we respond with "yas queen slay I don't know her" then it only heightens her insecurities and instabilities. Any true fan, that genuinely cares for her as a person rather than a commodity to score number 1s so you can throw it in Ariana's fans faces, would be happy for her to come clean and remove that burden. I used to be a very successful swimmer in my youth, to the point that I was in training for the Olympics. However, an accident at work damaged my shoulder which meant my swimming career was over immediately. I don't re-run clips of me in the pool winning medals from 1999 and say it was filmed yesterday. It's a sad, unfortunate event but it happened. Much as Mariah losing her voice all those years ago was. It does annoy me when the first response is to stick your fingers in your ear and call me negative, when really I am speaking the truth here. Nothing I said was made up, it's just that the truth hurts when it's about somebody you love, which is understandable. (Friday 14 February 2020; 15:02)

Re: Andrew (92,845) (92,848) by Bill from the UK "Her breathy vocals, low notes, mid notes, falsetto and her whistle register are on fire. And she can still reach those high notes." In honestly, they aren't and she can't. And you know that (no one is that delusional/gullible, surely?). Mariah cannot get through one song without playback or lip syncing, and she hasn't sung a live whistle note in at least five years. It's great that you defend and support her, but stop lying. (Friday 14 February 2020; 14:06)

Re: In The Fix (92,835) (92,843) by Bill from the UK Noodles lol. (Friday 14 February 2020; 07:22)

Re: The problem with Mariah (92,796) (92,807) by Bill from the UK Lol, has it really got so bad that we now praise her speaking voice? Heavens to Betsy. (Tuesday 11 February 2020; 13:04)

Re: Vocal decline (92,790) (92,791) by Bill from the UK Since you put it that way, honey I'm gonna stay. (Monday 10 February 2020; 18:11)

I Had a Vision of Love (92,784) by Bill from the UK I've been thinking about the memoir. I've seen it written here by fans on several occasions that they would like her to address the vocal decline. There are two schools of thought around the cause: entirely self-inflicted through alcohol, marijuana and other substance abuse/over indulgence, or an entirely unavoidable and uncontrollable natural decline caused through years upon years of straining her voice through bad/unwise technique and having to live up to the expectation to sing in the manner that made her so famous. My question to you is, let's say Mariah did address this issue, came clean once and for all, and with the statement, announced her retirement from singing. How would you feel about it? Would you feel relieved, happy for her bravery, annoyed, cheated, heartbroken? Imagine the relief it would give her, to end the charade and focus on songwriting and raising her children. Her career of 30 years will never be matched by anybody. The legacy she would leave would be something that would be referenced for generations after we have all left this world. Her accolades, awards, recognitions, and citations would never be challenged. She has had an amazing career. The title of the memoir is what got me thinking about this. It would be like the circle has closed. The "vision of love" was her career, she had it, and (as per the last line of the song), it has now gone away. It would be an incredibly poignant and respectable exit from an industry that she has forever changed and dominated since her debut. Her back catalogue is a treasure trove of wonderful music, beautifully composed and put together with intricate, intelligent song writing. I think it would be an incredibly sad, but sincere and perfect end to her career. It's either that, or more years of her in a sparkly leotard atop a chaise lounge barking out "eh". (Sunday 9 February 2020; 21:08)

Re: The problem with Mariah (92,776) (92,783) by Bill from the UK Hmmm. I don't think "slay" is the right adjective here. But Scott's completely right, the voice isn't there and the constant touring only highlights that she cannot replicate her work live without an awful lot of smoke and mirrors these days. She's now done far more ropey performances than good ones. Part of me thinks she should just hang up the jewel encrusted malfunctioning ear piece and be done with it. Sit back, raise the children, write songs for other people, and watch the dollars hit the bank account every month. (Sunday 9 February 2020; 18:54)

Re: New music (92,775) (92,782) by Bill from the UK Haha, he'd have retired by the time they collaborate. I don't see what the appeal is with him to be honest. (Sunday 9 February 2020; 18:51)

Re: New music (92,771) (92,773) by Bill from the UK Ric Wake is British and produced There's Got to Be a Way, Someday, All In Your Mind and Prisoner from the debut album. He also co-wrote TGTBAW with Mariah, and three other songs at the time, but only the one made it onto the album. Steve Mac also produced the Westlife version of Against All Odds. There's probably others. But you're right, she predominantly sticks with US producers. (Sunday 9 February 2020; 01:25)

Re: New music (92,770) (92,772) by Bill from the UK I loved #1s, especially the UK getting DYKWYGT as a bonus track. By better, I mean either a different, more meaningful song selection (not the same old hits we get on every compilation), and more than 4 and a half new songs. (Sunday 9 February 2020; 00:14)

Re: New music (92,767) (92,769) by Bill from the UK Thank you for not saying Bruno Mars. (Saturday 8 February 2020; 21:52)

Re: New music (92,763) (92,765) by Bill from the UK I hope there is some sort of tie in with the release of the memoirs. Either an anniversary edition of the debut, or a compilation album (with new material accompanying classic hits, like a better version of #1s). (Saturday 8 February 2020; 17:57)

Superbowl set list (92,739) by Bill from the UK Here's how things should go at the Superbowl: The crowd dampens down as anticipation slowly builds. After a few moments, Mariah can be heard cooing "I really hope when you hear this song, that you're happy with someone else." The lights come on and Mariah bursts into a lipped rendition of the Rainbow classic Did I Do That? With the crowd still jumping, she effortlessly segues into a lipped version of Charmbracelet's charm offensive Boy (I Need You). Mariah is picked up by the shirtless backing dancers and plonked onto a chaise lounge where she is spun 180 degrees in the air. With her back to the audience, a helicopter descends and out comes Rick Ross. The pair perform their iconic duet Can't Say No before a wowed audience. Mariah is lowered back to the floor and ambled into position to lip her Songwriter's Hall of Fame inductee, Infinity. The audience sing along to this popular and infectious smash hit, and then, lo, French Montana, Justin Bieber and TI emerge from the sidelines to grace the crowd with their career defining collaboration of Why You Mad? The song is over, the lights lowered and, whilst fiddling incessantly with her ear piece, Mariah starts purring the opening to Infamous, and with Jussie Smollet in tow, brings the house down with their critically lauded duet. Finally, in a nod to the past, Mariah barks out AIWFCIY (Tree Lighting Edition), and asks the crowd "Y'all know this one?" At that, she spins on her heel and is wheeled off to the Butterfly Outro, barely heard above the rapturous crowd and deafening applause. The performance is then released to the Billboard R&B Female Over 40 but Under 50 Bubbling Under Chart, where it reaches pole position instantly. (Thursday 6 February 2020; 15:08)

Re: Roc Nation (92,713) (92,714) by Bill from the UK Come on now, glass houses and all that. Mariah's had lots of questionable outfits and performances in her time. Thankfully she seems back on track now, but look no further than the nightmare era for all the "receipts". (Monday 3 February 2020; 22:30)

Re: Roc Nation (92,708) (92,711) by Bill from the UK It's too big an audience. If she messes up or lips she will never live it down. Stick to Vegas. (Monday 3 February 2020; 20:19)

Re: Hip pop (92,699) (92,701) by Bill from the UK That's just fab. (Sunday 2 February 2020; 15:09)

Re: Hip pop (92,696) (92,700) by Bill from the UK I said "not that it's a bad thing". (Sunday 2 February 2020; 15:09)

Re: Breakdown video (92,686) (92,691) by Bill from the UK Agree. All the videos from Butterfly were amazing. They were sexy indeed, but, especially for Breakdown and The Roof, there was an understated elegance to them. (Saturday 1 February 2020; 20:12)

Re: Hip pop (92,685) (92,690) by Bill from the UK That's debatable. Her sales have never been at the level they were since she fully incorporated hip hop into her sound. Not that it's a bad thing. (Saturday 1 February 2020; 20:09)

Re: Iconic photoshoots (92,668) (92,670) by Bill from the UK Nice topic. For me some iconic shots of MC I love are the microphone pic from the debut album, the Rainbow album cover, and the Merry Christmas album cover and associated pictures from the shoot. (Thursday 30 January 2020; 17:48)

Re: The Remixes re-imagined (92,641) (92,645) by Bill from the UK Nice one Will let me know what you think. (Tuesday 28 January 2020; 12:01)

Re: Hidden song - Love Take Time (92,639) (92,640) by Bill from the UK Well the list Terna gave was "pregap" songs, these are songs a really before the first track on albums (where you need to rewind the first track on the disc to hear it). Regular hidden tracks appear after a gap following the final song. Love Takes Time was straight after Prisoner, so it was always intended to be on the album, but early promotional copies of the album either didn't feature it or didn't list it on the tracklisting, yet contained it on the disc. And yes, according to The First Vision, Mariah wrote Love Takes Time for Emotions, but Tommy et al thought it was too good to wait, as he felt the album needed more ballads. (Tuesday 28 January 2020; 00:01)

The Remixes re-imagined (92,635) by Bill from the UK Continuing my revised tracklisting series, I can't stay quiet any longer about The Remixes and how this was such a botched opportunity. On the surface, it was a no-brainer. A collection of Mariah's most successful and notorious club and urban remixes on a two disc compilation. In fairness, the collection started off well, but it always seemed as if the compiler gave up mid-way through the track selection on the second disc, and opted for a bunch of album tracks to fill up the disc space. Breakdown, Sweetheart and Crybaby had no place on the compilation. The only concession I would make is to include the "Mo' Thugs Remix" of Breakdown instead. Technically, Loverboy (Remix) and Heartbreaker (Remix) are found on previously released albums (and Fantasy with ODB, if we're counting #1's), but Heartbreaker and Fantasy are iconic enough to warrant being included. Miss You and I Know What You Want also appeared on re-issues of Charmbracelet. There are some major omissions from the record. On disc one, I'd remove the boring paint-by-numbers Through the Rain remix and replace it with the Always Club Mix of Always Be My Baby. That was a huge oversight to not be included, and if it was due to its length, then they should have instead opted for the Def Classic Radio Version which cuts it in half. As for the second disc. Wow, where do I start? Let me address the lack of I Still Believe (Pure Imagination Remix). Seriously, how could that have happened? It is one of the jewels in Mariah's remix crown. Also, to entice and treat the die hards, the only exclusive we received was the (not that great) So So Def Remix of The One. Where was the Drifting Remix of Underneath the Stars? Those Brazilian club mixes of Do You Know Where You're Going To and the Butterfly meme remixes? I had everything on that album except the remix of The One when it released, so I felt a bit cheated. So, without further ado, here is Bill's re-imagining of The Remixes. Brace yourselves. 1. Dreamlover (Def Club Mix) - I wanted to open with Dreamlover as it was the one that started it all. 2. My All (Morales "My" Club Mix) 3. Heartbreaker (If You Should Ever Be Lonely Mix) 4. Butterfly (Meme's Extended Club Mix) - I replaced the Fly Away Club Mix with this rarity instead 5. Anytime You Need a Friend (C&C Club Mix) 6. Fantasy (Def Club Mix) 7. Honey (Classic Mix) 8. Always Be My Baby (Always Club Mix) 9. Emotions (12" Club Mix) 10. Joy to the World (Celebration Mix) - so Merry Christmas got represented, plus some of MC's best ad libs are in this version 11. Do You Know Where You're Going To (Mahogany Club Extended) - another rarity for the fans 1. Fantasy (Bad Boy with ODB) 2. Always Be My Baby (Mr. Dupri Mix) 3. My All/Stay Awhile (So So Def Remix) 4. Thank God I Found You (Make It Last Remix) 5. Breakdown (The Mo' Thugs Remix) *or* The Roof (Mobb Deep Extended Version) 6. Honey (So So Def Remix) 7. Dreamlover (Bam Jam Soul) - hard to find, but a brilliant remix. Appaz this was the original version. 8. Heartbreaker (Remix) 9. Underneath the Stars (Drifting Remix) 10. I Still Believe (Pure Imagination Remix) 11. Someday (12" Jackswing Mix) - want to show the poor debut some love, as it wasn't represented originally 12. Butterfly (Classic Bossa Nova) - beautiful rare remix 13. Anytime You Need a Friend (Soul Convention Remix) 14. One Sweet Day (Chucky's Remix) - I wanted to calm the compilation down and end with these two smooth soulful numbers. Let me know what remixes you would add. I feel bad for not including CTTA and TGTBAW. I had to draw the line somewhere. Morales remixes started losing their appeal post-Honey, and TGTBAW (and Make It Happen for that matter), were just the boring industry standard that Mariah soon rose above. (Monday 27 January 2020; 20:41)

Re: Mariah (92,627) (92,628) by Bill from the UK Hahaha love it. (Monday 27 January 2020; 11:42)

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