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About Terna from Nigeria: Fan since 1998 - The "Butterfly" Era. Fave Era - The Emancipation of Mimi, watching her break that Night was Everything.

Who cares about the Grammy's? (102,194) by Terna from Nigeria That particular Grammy category is quite controversial, but also has a lot of boxes to check for one to win. What I noticed is that the body of work has to stand for something other than just a collection of hit songs. Most albums that have indeed won in the category were "themed" albums, but also powerful statements made by the various artists at that time. Notable works include: "Thriller" by Michael Jackson, "The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill", “Speakerboxxx/The Love Below” by Outkast, "Taking the Long Way" by The Dixie Chicks ,"Faith" by George Michael to name a few. However, as in the case of Mariah, she's been robbed multiple times I would say in this category not just with "Daydream" and "The Emancipation of Mimi" but also "Butterfly" (her strongest contender) which was not even nominated - an album of the year kind of album without a doubt. It's not surprising to see Beyonce lose this category over and over, she isn't a true artist in the vein of Bonnie Raitt, Prince, Adele, Lauryn Hill, Mariah Carey, Alisson Krauss, Aretha Franklin, Santana etc. The closest she came was with the "Lemonade" album and in all honesty that was a much better record than Adele's "25" and Adele knew this too. Oh well, like Drake even said on their own show, the real reward is having feedback in the form of acknowledgment and gratitude from your fans and casual listeners that your music resonates with the masses and actually touches lives, now that is the true win, and Mariah especially is number one winner when it comes to that. We know it and they know it too. (Wednesday 8 February 2023; 23:07) this is a reply to message 102,193

Who cares about the Grammy's? (102,193) by Critter from USA It's rather funny to see people coming to Beyonce's defense for why she didn't win the album of the year. To me, it's rather an embarrassment to hear her on radio as if it can be called music. It sure seems like she is an early adoption of ChatGPT - using AI to work on her album and maybe her singing too. Anyways, Rarities truly is the best works MC released in past 10 years or so. My 2 cents. (Wednesday 8 February 2023; 00:24)

Socerey (102,163) by Terna from Nigeria This is unsettling but quite interesting too. (Tuesday 31 January 2023; 21:51)

Butterfly tour footage - Sydney (102,131) by Terna from Nigeria You can hear her voice very clear in these clips, it's a very clear recording. Unfortunately, one can also hear how damaged her voice was even then (1998). How did you manage to fry your instrument in just 8 years? She's really struggling vocally especially on "My All" the incessant scratches one can hear and the whistle notes in "Emotions" are very weak and airy and almost not even picked up by the [microphone]. I don't know what Mariah's problem is, but one would think that developing nodules would've gotten her serious about the technical aspects of singing, how they came to be, what she did wrong and how to remedy the situation because any trained and qualified vocal coach would let you know. Instead she adjusted her singing style and the way she pronounced words going from rounded glossed vowel sounds, to a jarring unpleasant strained sound, adding even more pressure and kept on managing the situation. It's so unfortunate how she had this glorious instrument and just totally ruined it, literally threw it away. (Wednesday 25 January 2023; 23:58) this is a reply to message 102,126

Butterfly tour footage - Sydney (102,126) by Billy from Greece Oh my goodness. Where did these come from? My All and The Roof. Oh dear. More here. Emotions and My All audio from the soundboard. (Wednesday 25 January 2023; 16:32)

Memoirs is underrated (102,120) by Terna from Nigeria "That is the beauty of Mariah's catalog, there's still so much to explore because some of them didn't necessarily explore when they were released initially". Yes of course no one is denying this but fact is she needs to be releasing new songs not trying to make those old songs "happen" so to speak. They're still old songs that didn't get their chance for whatever reason, and the window of opportunity closed. That ship has long sailed and sunk at sea. (Tuesday 24 January 2023; 11:41) this is a reply to message 102,116

Memoirs is underrated (102,116) by jaker20 from US Well I disagree. They are still accessible Mariah songs, they are still very pop and can have a second life with a few cute viral moments here and there. With the Gen Z and Alpha, they will dig it because they still fresh. Obsessed did go viral a few years ago because it has a timeless chorus. In fact I listen to E=MC2 more than Emancipation. Now there is about a dozen songs I listen to regularly between that and Memoirs. Emancipation is undoubtedly a masterpiece, but are you really going to listen to it every day for 15 years? That is the beauty of Mariah's catalog, there's still so much to explore because some of them didn't necessarily explore when they were released initially. I find H.A.T.E.U to be absolutely haunting, Standing O has a really great beat, and I used to hate Angels Cry and I bet if she lends it to a show it can have a huge revival. It sounds timeless. (Monday 23 January 2023; 02:26)

Memoirs is underrated (102,109) by Terna from Nigeria Apart from "Obsessed" being released as a single and being a monster hit it was, I really did not see another tangible single release from "Memoirs" as to me Mariah was not really in search of [hits] per say. The album is "moody" as someone here pointed out and none of the songs single material. But then again, having only one producer team Tricky and The Dream was to blame for that. Save for "The Emancipation of Mimi", Mariah really did struggle in the 2000's and has ever since. (Sunday 22 January 2023; 19:43) this is a reply to message 102,105

Memoirs is underrated (102,105) by Robert-Anthony from United States Memoirs worked because of The-Dream. It was a fun album. It was the last album that MC poured her heart and soul into. The-Dream said that MC kept him into the studio all night until 6am. One fun fact about Memoirs is that Obsessed was the only single to have an official 12 inch vinyl release. (Saturday 21 January 2023; 17:32)

Never Forget You (102,095) by Terna from Nigeria Yeah, same here. I feel this is the reason why we haven't gotten another Mariah [studio album]. I miss that a lot. She barely got "Caution" out and even then it was evident that something wasn't quite right with her voice. Where do we go from here? Well, I would suggest training her main voice (not the whistle/whisper register that register is parasitic and actually feeds off your main voice), and invest in singing straws. The human voice is very resilient since it is living tissue, and heals quite easily when bad habits are eliminated. (Thursday 19 January 2023; 12:06) this is a reply to message 102,094

Never Forget You (102,094) by Robert-Anthony from United States Maybe you are right Terna. I was just having a wishful thinking moment reminscing about how I miss the MC of 1990s. I guess those days are gone because she didn't take care of her instrument. (Thursday 19 January 2023; 05:45)

Never Forget You (102,093) by Terna from Nigeria Someone who struggles with "Hero" her simplest song? Quit with all that delusion. (Wednesday 18 January 2023; 21:39) this is a reply to message 102,075

Never Forget You (102,075) by Robert-Anthony from United States Just wondering about the Lambs thought if MC could sing NFY in the same key today from beginning to end. I think that she could in a relaxed setting in front Lambs. (Sunday 15 January 2023; 16:35)

Love Is (102,065) by Terna from Nigeria How did I forget this beautiful song. Man, these are the things that makes one realize time has gone by and [no] Mariah it's not 25 minutes. Lol. (Friday 13 January 2023; 00:43)

The vocal performance award (102,064) by Terna from Nigeria One of the reasons I think Mariah lost so many "vocal performance" awards at the Grammys is the fact that most of her earlier recordings were "polished" so to speak, done in multiple takes and the best parts being used, giving her this flawless studio recording every time, especially the first half of the 90's. Yes she was always nominated (at some point Mariah was the most nominated female artist at the Grammys and most were for vocal performance) but she always lost to other females that one could hear most likely did those songs in one take. From the first album, [only] "Vision of Love" is sung in one take (the 2nd Mariah doing all that insane ad-libbing) and what do you know? She won for Pop Vocal and then again with "We Belong Together" another one take song, won best R&B vocal performance. So I do think the Grammys acknowledge singers who don't gloss their vocals. Just a thought. What do you guys think? (Friday 13 January 2023; 00:41)

I Pray. (102,046) by Terna from Nigeria This was a song she wrote for some boy in 2005 if I recall correctly, I never listened to his version but from the little clips I heard from the Oprah show, he [sang] it exactly like she does on her own version, which by the way I was over the moon when she finally released it on "The Rarities". This brings up the issue of the demos for "Butterfly" and the Allure songs. I find it very hard to believe those songs don't have her own version. Mariah you need to check that magic vault very well. Lol. My life will be complete if I hear her sing "Last Chance", "Head Over Heels" and "Where are You Christmas" from that era, [it] is very important for me, that "Butterfly" period was when I became a die hard fan and that version of Mariah. (Tuesday 10 January 2023; 22:52)

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,026) by Terna from Nigeria Celine Dion should actually replace that number 8 Beyonce occupies, It's kinda [laughable] how they always try to have Beyonce sit among the greats and she just does not belong. Notable singers were missing, like was Dionne Warwick even there on the list? (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 15:43) this is a reply to message 102,010

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,010) by Edward from USA You know it's a travesty when they included Rihanna and leave Celine out. Linda Ronstadt and Barbra Streisand should be in the top 20. Going by their own rules, Celine should be in the top 10. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 13:54)

Darlene and all (101,977) by Terna from Nigeria I want her next number one to be a regular genre song not a Christmas one, enough of the Christmas decoration, hibernation stunt. Yes it is good that she gets to go number one every year, but I want another "We Belong Together", "Touch My Body", "Fantasy", "Obsessed", "Heartbreaker" moment where she hits number one with a regular song. It is important that that 20th number one not be a Christmas number at all. (Wednesday 28 December 2022; 17:32) this is a reply to message 101,969

Darlene and all (101,969) by jaker20 from US I think Mariah should accept that duet offer and snatch that 20th no.1. With all the controversy, Mariah should reconcile with her around September and generate publicity for the supposed "feud" turned duet lol. Mariah's C(BPCH) version itself is getting more and more popular every year, it just needs a little push. There's a few other songs Mariah could duet with, like she did with AIWFCIY duets with so many artists over the years. Lambs might not have noticed the duet with Justin Bierber reintroduced the song in a big way to a lot of people 12 years ago, and she should do the same, maybe for either C(BPCH) or another song, because I don't think the Hey Santa duets with Ariana and JHud worked so well. I still love it though. (Tuesday 27 December 2022; 17:14)

Article: Mariah Carey scores milestone 10th week at No. 1 (101,941) by Terna from Nigeria This is a big deal and we can already predict that over time this song is going to be the longest running Billboard Hot 100 #1 song of all time, a gift that will keep giving until the end of time, literally. Sorry Lil Nas X. Lol. How is this woman so blessed? (Friday 23 December 2022; 10:09)

Whoopi Goldberg mocks Mariah (101,894) by Terna from Nigeria The conscious effort to shade Mariah was thick in the air in that studio you could literally cut through it with a knife. Too [bad] Mariah is already considered "The Queen of Christmas" by this [generation] amongst many other titles – yes Whoopi she can and does have it all. Her [song] "All I want For Christmas is You" [trumps] all others I dare say past, present and future. It is that [good] a song, and isn't the album that song is from "Merry Christmas" the biggest selling Christmas album of all time? That is what qualifies her as the Queen of Christmas, she stays winning. Now everyone wants to have a magical Christmas song and album like she does. Often imitated, never duplicated. (Sunday 18 December 2022; 21:58) this is a reply to message 101,892

Whoopi Goldberg mocks Mariah (101,892) by MC1989 from Spain So Darlene Love went to The View and after her performance they coronated her as The Queen Of Christmas and they talked about Mariah without mentioning her. I didn't like Darlene's attitude, especially since she came to terms with Mariah, and they both praised each other on Twitter a few days ago, and Darlene even proposed to Mariah if they could record the song in a diet for 2023. Mariah was very sweet to her, talking about how her rendition of Christmas Baby Please Come Home was an homage to Darlene's version of the song. And I also notice that Whoopi was kinda laughing at Mariah, and it's not the first time she does it. Here's the full video. (Sunday 18 December 2022; 16:07)

So what (101,875) by Terna from Nigeria "I hope to God she's not reading these messages." I sure do hope she is reading these messages so she knows what's up - that the facade has failed and ain't nobody gonna shell out hard earned money for a wack, mediocre show, by a lazy has been diva living on her past glory, something's got to give. You hibernated all damn year (literally) and this is what she could come up with? You could see the alarm and disgust on the audience faces. Say all you want about Tommy, but he made her be disciplined and her vocal quality in those times speaks for itself. As soon as he was out of the picture, look at the hideous shot vocals we got for "Rainbow". Ship her off to Iyanla Vanzant for rehabilitation already. (Saturday 17 December 2022; 16:54) this is a reply to message 101,863

So what (101,863) by Johnny from Ireland Guys, get a grip, she's alive and well, clearly. The voice might not be there but she's out and about. I hope to God she's not reading these messages. Who needs fans when she has so many critics? Be thankful for the legacy if nothing else. (Saturday 17 December 2022; 02:02)

Why is everyone surprised? (101,874) by Terna from Nigeria That performance was 100% live. (Saturday 17 December 2022; 16:36) this is a reply to message 101,859

Why is everyone surprised? (101,859) by Robert-Anthony from United States Wait a minute, Randy. Are you saying that the 2006 Grammys performance of WBT/FLAB was a combination of lip synching and live singing? I have always thought that the performance was totally live. We have been bamboozled for a very long time now if that is the case. (Friday 16 December 2022; 19:40)

Supreme songbird (101,842) by Terna from Nigeria Thanks for this, I hope she see this and realizes she's not fooling anyone, we can see it and so can the general public. Honestly, at this point its probably only the surgery that can save and repair whatever damage she's got going on. I always said her vocal issues stem from way back to at least 1994. That first tour did something to her voice. And it's blaringly obvious by the "Daydream" era. Sure she still does sound good, but one can tell already she's lost a good chunk of her main voice, maybe a nodule or something else and ever since then it's been downhill vocally for Mariah. Like Celine Dion, Mariah Should come clean. Enough of the façade already. People want to see you win Mariah, but you've got to want to win yourself too. Get professional help. She's never really worked with a vocal coach and at this point a speech therapist (does she even know new tricks of the trade like singing straws, humming and vocal fry exercises, warm ups for pre shows and cool downs for after shows? etc.) and that's why she's in this predicament today. Smh. I feel so worried for her. Get help Mariah, quit being so damn stubborn and delusional. (Thursday 15 December 2022; 21:24) this is a reply to message 101,836

Supreme songbird (101,836) by MC1989 from Spain Sad, but true. I've never seen her struggling like this before. She used to struggle with high belted notes and hard climaxes like many singers do. But since this year's Saudi Arabia performance I really started to worry. Even in her recent tours in 2018, 2019 and 2020 where the raspy parts were there, and she would sing many flat notes, she was still capable of doing a very decent show. But this really hurts. I know she's doing what she can with what she has right now. But again, though I love her, I can't help feeling a little angry and sad for her. There are no excuses. She doesn't work 8 hours as we do. She has a team of well paid people doing whatever she wants her to do for her. She has problems and probably mental issues as most people have, but the difference is that she's a millionaire and she can afford the best doctors, the best vocal coaches, and relearn how to use what's left in her beautiful instrument. She's singing worst than ever, looking more nervous and insecure than ever - but disguised with barbie outfits and allegedly glamorous outfits, lots of dancers, etc- and yet exposing herself more than ever. The Mariah I fell in love with was a perfeccionist. She stopped singing Emotions, Vision Of Love, Make It Happen etc during many years because they were so demanding and so hard to sing. She would sing other songs and though she started struggling after 1997, her agility was insane, her riffs and runs and her musicality were there until not too long ago. But now it feels like she doesn't care, she stands there and sings her hardest songs that she would avoid singing even in her prime, like O Holy Night, Emotions, Fantasy, My All etc and she does it at the worst vocal state. And she knows she's struggling. What she may not be thinking is that singing in higher keys than her range is damaging even more her voice. I can't help imagining Celine, Barbra, Beyoncé, Gaga, Patti Labelle, all partners and great live performers, watching these videos and thinking, wow, she really has lost her voice and she's lipping too much. Considering Mariah doesn't dance, she just walks through the stage and does some girly poses here and there and nervously moves her hand all the time, why do a live concert if the voice is not there? She can cancel. She can say no before going on tour. But I guess the money nowadays is more important for her than what it used to be, even though she's ruining her reputation as a great voice. Which I believe she can still get back if she works hard and regain a part of what she lost. I don't want her to be perfect, nobody is. I don't even want her to sound perfect as she used to in the first decade of her career. I like in fact her vulnerability as a human being. Her mistakes. Her sense of humor many times. I want her to be honest with herself and her fans. What Celine did last week is an example of honesty as an artist. (Thursday 15 December 2022; 00:43)

Toronto shows (101,816) by Terna from Nigeria Oh dear, haha. (Tuesday 13 December 2022; 16:29) this is a reply to message 101,811

Toronto shows (101,811) by Shae_anne from Brazil [Webmaster: This message was completely censored, because of the many insults.] (Tuesday 13 December 2022; 12:43)

Toronto shows (101,808) by Terna from Nigeria The [fans] which is what I am, are who made, make and continue to make her who she is - and whatever achievements she has achieved, or records broken - we her core fan base are directly responsible for that and she should never ever get that fact twisted. She is up there because of us (all caps), our money and undying love effort and support. You tell her [we] said so. For you to come here with the bullsh*t talk about her not caring is just plain dumb. Is she going to those shows to sing to herself? Fans purchased those high priced tickets. The least she can do and is obligated to do is show up on her A game, or at the very least something close to it. You must be one of those gremlins on her team only concerned about your paycheck. (Tuesday 13 December 2022; 10:45) this is a reply to message 101,806

Toronto shows (101,806) by Shae_anne from Brazil First of all Mariah Carey [does not owe you anything]. You staying a fan is up to you, that [doesn't] mean she has to cater to you lol you sound delusional. If you want to stay liking her music being a fan then that's up to you but you ain't doing her no favors, were you even at the concert physically, did you make a physical purchase of the ticket. No, so what do you know sir? If nobody cares she wouldn't be selling out, she wouldn't be breaking CBS records and she wouldn't score a [Billboard] no. 1 every year around Christmas time, she would not be relevant, the people, the public and fans love her, trust when I say she's [doesn't] care about your 2 cents, so you can complain all you want but she's going to stay booked and busy. (Tuesday 13 December 2022; 08:30)

Nodules and whistles (101,799) by Terna from Nigeria You [said] it all honestly, and quite frankly I do hope she's reading this to read our honest opinions, something she can't seem to get from those around her since they are scared of losing their paychecks. This is exactly what Michael Jackson suffered until it was too late. Mariah needs to be booed off stage for her to be jolted back to reality and then do something about her voice like say hire a vocal coach. Like how did you get to this level? What kinda of singer doesn't train their main voice and only relies on the whistle register - which by the way is a parasitic register on the main voice (This is what diminished her voice quality). Mariah does not have a super head voice. Listen to Amel Larrieux. (Monday 12 December 2022; 20:27) this is a reply to message 101,788

Nodules and whistles (101,788) by MC1989 from Spain Whistles used to be an ornament in her songs, an extra or a plus to her huge voice range and singing abilities. Nowadays the narrative of "I don't remove my nodules because thanks to them I can hit whistle notes" is absurd. But then again, it' s Maria's choice, and I can even understand the fear of going under that kind of surgery. But right now, in these recent years, the whole range has been affected by the nodules, the lack of training and rehearsing, the bad habits and of course age. She even admitted that she doesn't train her voice before concerts during her Masterclass. She said she does a few vocal scales to see if the whistles and the low notes are there and goes singing. That's not that your instrument has become weak due to age or whatever, it's a personal choice of not wanting to warm up and really train on a regular basis. No vocal resting will change that. But hey, Mariah can whistle. Flat whistles that most of the times sound more like high weak screams than whistles. Between the lipped parts she keeps doing these little whistle screams to try to prove that although she lipped, she can hit some similar sound, if we can consider a shout a note. I'm here because I'm a fan. I'm always hoping to see if she gets better and if she can surprise me. I loved her memoir, The Rarities, some of her recent interviews, because I love Mariah. I spent more money on her than in any other artist I admire. I want her to succeed and to reach number one and I want people to appreciate her legendary catalogue apart from AIWFCIY. But lately I feel a little sad when I see her performing. I don't like people including me, talking about how bad this or that performance was. So why keep the exposure that much? If she can't sing good an entire song without any lipped part, lipped whistles etc, then stop performing, stop singing impossible songs for her current voice. Mariah can fool a non fan or a recent fan, but she certainly cannot fool fans like me who have been following her for more than 2 decades and have watched every single performance she has done since 1990. I can recognize immediately when she's lipping. And I had come to a point where I didn't mind she was using prerecorded tracks in some parts of certain songs if the rest of the vocal performance was really good. But this year's performances are really mediocres. Nowadays it's so evident when the lipped part comes in, that she can be happy that the thousands of people who pay the astronomic prices for her shows can think those parts are not lipped, and that they can't hear the differences between her 2022 voice and the 1994 voice for instance in Hark The Herald Angels Sing, where the alternation of those 2 different tones is pure cringe for someone who has a good ear. By the way I've also noticed that her lip synching has become a little more convincing to the general audience because in the recent years she's been using fillers in her face, and though she looks beautiful I also notice a lack of expression in her face. In the past her face muscles revealed very clearly when she was singing live and when not. I saw her in Madrid in 2020 and even though she lipped the same parts - because basically it's the same show with a few changes - the show was good and her voice sounded strong and beautiful. But 2022 is one of her worst vocal moments from what I've seen this far. Again, I hope she gets better. I will support her upcoming movie or series about her life, I would also love to hear her 1995 version of Someone's Ugly Daughter and her upcoming projects. But I would like her to stop giving these bad performances. (Monday 12 December 2022; 14:23)

Toronto shows (101,798) by Terna from Nigeria Speaking of My All, [she] has never really sung that song half as good as on the album and even the original recording is flawed. With all that "singing through the nodules" she's doing. It is actually quite distracting and once you hear it you cannot really "unhear" it again. At this point, just retire the damn song already, because if I hear that "feel your body, feel your body" tired line one more time. Mariah does not have truthful people around her at all, [not] Trey nor Mary Ann nor Bryan Tanaka and it's so sad to see her spiraling down and becoming a one trick pony – Christmas. (Monday 12 December 2022; 19:47) this is a reply to message 101,786

Toronto shows (101,786) by Bill from the UK "My All" was probably the worst I've ever heard her sing. If you can call it that. (Monday 12 December 2022; 11:58)

Toronto shows (101,797) by Terna from Nigeria Lol. You must be a kid so I will excuse your blatant folly and the way you responded to my message, which was quite frankly from a place of [love] and more importantly concern. What has wanting her to take her craft more seriously and be more disciplined when it comes to her instrument got to do with wanting her to change and me not having inner peace? Haha (I never indicated I was in turmoil). We love (all caps) Mariah that is why we are still here like what? 30 plus years later. I would've easily moved on from her but there's no way that would ever happen, not now and you know why because I did not leave her nor kick her when she was down, and practically the whole world turned their back on her. That was when I even "Stanned" harder for her. Why would I want to start now? You did not experience Mariah Carey in the 90's nor even the early 2000's like we did, you're "prolly" one of the new Lambies. When Mariah stood in front of an audience with a [microphone] you knew you were about to hear vocals no other singer could or is capable of producing. She was all about that voice and with the kinda artist she is that was enough. Nowadays it is the opposite; the lighting, ensembles (ugh I hate this word because of her), "darling", "the lighting" and all the other "crap" she picked up along the way that absolutely nobody cares for. Smh. (Monday 12 December 2022; 19:38) this is a reply to message 101,784

Toronto shows (101,784) by SM from Citizen of the World Then stop following her. All you people that criticize her, move on with your life. No one cares what you think, your opinion will never matter to anyone. Mariah will not change Mariah. Let go, move on, do whatever it is you gotta do, find peace with yourself because this [censored] is getting old, again Mariah is Mariah and she will never ever change for you or anybody else, get it in your heads. (Monday 12 December 2022; 01:25)

Toronto shows (101,782) by Terna from Nigeria Watching the clips, [one] can tell she's really struggling to put on a "singing" show but her voice is really not having it, so she talk sings or alters the melody. I really wish Mariah would get professional help. Now she's also having lower range issues as seen in the "Emotions" and "My All" clips with the unintentional vocal breaks. Another thing I noticed is the repertoire itself isn't the best for a singer her age seeing as it was written "16 to 25 minutes ago", she's missing a lot of qualities that were there before which enabled her sing so well – [agility], fluid and seamless registers, stamina in terms of youth etc just the ease of singing she once had in [general] which was an amalgamation of all these factors and more working hand in hand. It's [sad] to see the last of the two true [divas] struggling; with Celine and her health issues and Mariah and her waning instrument. (Sunday 11 December 2022; 15:46)

Charmbracelet - 20 years (101,739) by Terna from Nigeria For me I did not like this era at all and it's an amalgamation of a lot of factors, yes lyrically the album was mature and really strong but the vocals were irritating to listen to and quite honestly off-putting and I still really feel this way up until today. Whatever vocal issues she had be masking was in full display here and one could not ignore it – her belts were strained and she was suffocating here (literally guys), there isn't any so to speak "real voice" here, her resonance is non existent and everything is "shouty" when she tries to go for it. I was so disappointed and irritated as a die hard "lamby". The only outstanding song on this record is "Through The Rain" (this song is very special and actually a classic in my opinion and I would say one of her signature songs), and maybe "My Saving Grace". Every other song here is a muddled whispery mess have you heard the full 5 minute version of "You Got Me"? Ugh). The album is also poorly produced instrumental and especially vocally, there does not seem to be any reverb on her vocals and if there, very sparse. I also feel the album is boring. Phew thank God for "The Emancipation of Mariah Carey". (Monday 5 December 2022; 21:18) this is a reply to message 101,727

Charmbracelet - 20 years (101,727) by Randy from USA I remember a lot about that era. I couldn't believe how beautiful Through The Rain was and the video is stunning. She was still doing lipping climaxes to the records, but she was on every show, despite not having a hit single. The View, Oprah, Matt Lauer interviewed her, MTV gave her a special. I didn't care for a lot of the album and at the time, I remember one reviewer stating that she did so many different things on the album that it was like mixing watercolors only to end up with a puddle of brown. I remember Lyor Cohen saying that she brought class to DefJam. It was a time where MC garnered respect because of her earlier hits that weren't as far away, but Glitter wasn't the nail in the coffin. Charmbracelet was the first and last time I would pay to see MC live. She lipped most of it. I was in full fan mode that night with butterfly and rainbow stickers all up and down my arm. It definitely is a moment. Through The Rain is the only way I make it to work many days. I still play Lullaby and Subtle Invitation. The rest of it is largely forgotten. But the era isn't. (Saturday 3 December 2022; 23:26)

AIWFCIY (101,710) by Terna from Nigeria Already? It's not even December yet. Lol. I noticed Brenda Lee's song is number 6 too and I'm like ain't no one listening to that [song] so soon unless maybe the trolls trying to unseat AIWFCIY. Haha. (Wednesday 30 November 2022; 17:08) this is a reply to message 101,704

AIWFCIY (101,704) by Edward from USA It's already #5. She'll hit #1 earlier this year. (Wednesday 30 November 2022; 04:31)

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