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News (104,500) by Edward from USA Those singles won't do much on Christmas. (Monday 11 December 2023; 00:54) this is a reply to message 104,498

News (104,498) by Robert-Anthony from United States Yes. She may make it to number one, but it is going to be tough this year because of Tate McRae and Nicki Minaj current singles. (Sunday 10 December 2023; 23:02)

News (104,495) by Edward from USA Mariah was dominating on airplay and sales last when RATCT hit number one, now she's only ahead on radio airplay. I don't think she'll dethrone Brenda just yet. At this point, the figures Talkofthecharts has are very accurate. (Sunday 10 December 2023; 17:32) this is a reply to message 104,494

News (104,494) by Nicole from US Talk of the charts said it's close again. As of morning of December 10 Mariah Carey's "All I Want For Christmas Is You" and Brenda Lee's "Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree" are looking to closely compete for #1 again on next week's Billboard Hot 100 (December 23rd chart), as the former begins to accelerate faster on streaming. (Sunday 10 December 2023; 14:00)

Christmas collabs (104,485) by Edward from USA Andrew, stop watching those YouTube clips, I did a long time ago. I'm actually over her voice situation. If she doesn't care, why should we? You don't see her up there on stage sad and concerned about what people think, she's lipping all the way to the bank. (Saturday 9 December 2023; 18:46) this is a reply to message 104,484

Christmas collabs (104,484) by Andrew from the UK Seeing as Mariah doesn't even pretend to lipsync now, she might as well just let Jennifer Hudson and Ariana Grande to a duet on stage while she watches, claps, and says "I love you" a few times. (Saturday 9 December 2023; 14:54)

Appreciation (104,479) by Edward from USA Andrew, I think you replied to the wrong post, lol. Sorry you got misgendered. Using clown/clownself pronuns when you use he/him pronouns is definitely not cool. (Saturday 9 December 2023; 02:01) this is a reply to message 104,476

Appreciation (104,476) by Andrew from the UK "He says things I don't like. But I don't read his posts." Or to translate: "It's all true. Except for the lies." (Saturday 9 December 2023; 00:43)

Appreciation (104,474) by Edward from USA Merry Christmas to our MCArchives dysfunctional family. We agree, we disagree, we sometimes fight, get delusional and paranoid, but we are the MCArchives family. From the ones who post regularly to those who only post to remind us how Andrew should be banned, we love everybody. When MCArchives came online, back when Mariah was still huge, things weren't any different than they are now. We even had the UK gang against the US gang, but here we are 25 years later fighting, lol. Thank you Eric for keeping the site running all these years and thank all of you for keeping the conversation going. (Friday 8 December 2023; 23:43)

Mimi send Brenda flowers (104,468) by Edward from USA I agree. She congratulated Lil Nas X and now Brenda. She's just being a good sport. I love Andrew, but he should take a chill pill. (Friday 8 December 2023; 12:37) this is a reply to message 104,465

Mimi send Brenda flowers (104,465) by Robert-Anthony from United States Andy, it's called congratulating someone who did something fabulous. (Friday 8 December 2023; 11:58)

Christmastime Is In The Air Again (104,467) by Edward from USA That was [a] great performance. Her words just flowed, no background singers needed. (Friday 8 December 2023; 12:31) this is a reply to message 104,464

Christmastime Is In The Air Again (104,464) by enwar00 from usa Always a treat to revisit this performance. An underrated gem from an underrated album IMO. Oh 2012 Mariah, how agile was your voice still. Did that fall somehow affect more than we know? (Friday 8 December 2023; 07:19)

New video (104,458) by Edward from USA She'd better up her game and get one of her Christmas shows on national television. She must be number one by Christmas Eve. (Friday 8 December 2023; 01:06) this is a reply to message 104,457

New video (104,457) by Robert-Anthony from United States According to Glittering Mariah on X, MC is dropping a new video featuring the Lambs tonight at midnight. Could it be the huge AIWFCIY performance during the Kansas City show? (Friday 8 December 2023; 00:02)

Mimi send Brenda flowers (104,456) by Edward from USA I was wondering if Mariah had congratulated Brenda. Mariah secretely knows Brenda will have to send some flowers back her way soon. Welcome back, for a moment I thought we had lost you there, lol. (Thursday 7 December 2023; 21:58) this is a reply to message 104,455

Mimi send Brenda flowers (104,455) by jaker20 from US That just goes to show what kind of hear Mariah has. She is all about the spirit of the season. (Thursday 7 December 2023; 21:18)

Article: Mariah Carey rocks Pittsburgh (104,452) by Edward from USA That's weird, it's one of the highlights of the show. I could understand why she didn't include it though. (Thursday 7 December 2023; 21:06) this is a reply to message 104,450

Article: Mariah Carey rocks Pittsburgh (104,450) by Betty from Canada O Holy Night was not part of the setlist this year and I doubt that she sang even a snippet of it as mentioned in this article because it would have surfaced on social media. (Thursday 7 December 2023; 20:39)

Number one (104,448) by Edward from USA "Maybe I'm just being paranoid (our resident annoying cute friend Edward here thinks I am)." You are, but it's good to see you're coming around. You now recognize that Brenda and her team just put in the work while Mariah and her team were resting in their laurels. (Thursday 7 December 2023; 02:51) this is a reply to message 104,441

Number one (104,441) by jaker20 from US Yep, thanks for posting. That's literally what I meant by my last post. When it's a close race, all these little things matter. And Brenda's team did due diligence and actually worked those promo games. Mariah's team did nothing this year and released nothing new. So in a way Brenda deserves it. By the way, I re-watched Mimi's AppleTV+ Christmas thingy from a couple of years ago. Not many saw it, but my niece loved it. Oh look Mariah has legs and arms and they're moving. She looks happy and animated. It's amazing how just a couple of years has changed for her. Maybe I'm just being paranoid (our resident annoying cute friend Edward here thinks I am). But I think Mariah is distracted.The lack of new projects or any release this season make me think that Tanaka is still in her mind. That story isn't finished. That's just what I think. Anyway, these jealous haters celebrating on twitter when their faves don't even have a classic like AIWFC. It's on its way to becoming the biggest of all time, while their faves don't even have a song the charted in decades. (Wednesday 6 December 2023; 21:33)

Vocals getting better (104,447) by Edward from USA Her voice was in good shape for Memoirs. She sung IWKWLI live in many shows and it was great. From MIAM on, it has been downhill. (Thursday 7 December 2023; 02:28) this is a reply to message 104,444

Vocals getting better (104,444) by Robert-Anthony from United States I really feel today that MC's voice was going to deteriorate anyway as she got older because of her vocal nodules. It seems now that we are always going to be in a period of her good vocals and the next year with her having bad vocals. With each album since TEOM her vocals declined some period of time between albums during live events. Also, I want to go on the record and say that her vocals during The Angels Advocate Tour were out of this world. I saw MC in Atlanta and I was blown away with high notes she was hitting that night. And that was right after the recording time of the raspy vocals on Memoirs. (Thursday 7 December 2023; 00:20)

Number one (104,440) by Edward from USA The general consensus from the comments is that really good promotion from Brenda and her label was the key factor. A new video and strategic promotion gave RATCT the little push it needed. We have still a few weeks to go. I'm hopeful. (Wednesday 6 December 2023; 20:24) this is a reply to message 104,438

Number one (104,438) by enwar00 from usa Billboard has a whole article discussing Brenda going to #1 and what they think can happen going forward. Many points were discussed here too. (Wednesday 6 December 2023; 19:15)

Number one (104,433) by Edward from USA True. Brenda who? I had never heard of her. I do really want "Last Christmas" to be number one though. (Wednesday 6 December 2023; 03:40) this is a reply to message 104,426

Number one (104,426) by Andrew from the UK Honestly, who cares? It's a good thing, in my opinion. There is now less pressure to keep maintaining that same level of success with it and frankly I'm bored of the Crimbo song already. And the talk of charts and that Brenda Lee who, sorry sister, should not have been slapped in that bloody awful blonde wig. It's a awful wig, a awful song and a awful nauseating thought that I might accidentally happen to listen to it ever again. It will undoubtedly be playing at the gates of hell upon my entry. Next year is Merry Christmas 30 and the Crimbo Song's 30th. That's a huge, huge deal. I say Mariah do two concerts in Hyde Park, London. Winter in London, Mariah on stage with 65,000 people singing Crimbo songs into the night air, followed by a festive fireworks display. And stream it live on AppleTV. If she did something like this, it would be global news and a massive celebration of the anniversary of her creating something that is truly timeless - unlike these little Christmas shows that nobody really gives two shiny shits about. Barclaycard x Apple presents... Mariah Carey's "Merry Christmas 30" Live in Hyde Park, London December 22 & 23, 2024 Stream it live on AppleTV. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 20:28)

Rockin' Around #1 (104,432) by Edward from USA Andrew, are you the guy walking by George Michael holding a bottle of Vodka? (Wednesday 6 December 2023; 03:31) this is a reply to message 104,427

Rockin' Around #1 (104,427) by Andrew from the UK I literally live in the same country. You're dead to me. Luke. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 20:29)

Article: Mariah Carey dethroned (104,428) by Edward from USA I don't understand. Streams are converted to sales. 150 streams equal 1 track sale. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 21:12) this is a reply to message 104,424

Article: Mariah Carey dethroned (104,424) by Betty from Canada Forbes forgot to mention how Spotify removed AIWFCIY from playlists and Billboard changed the rules to count streaming more than sales. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 18:44)

Rockin' Around #1 (104,423) by Edward from USA Sadly not in the city, but might be moving back. I'd love to though. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 12:43) this is a reply to message 104,420

Rockin' Around #1 (104,420) by Jamie from UK Where in NY are you? Next time I'm there we could grab a coffee? (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 10:37)

Rockin' Around #1 (104,418) by Edward from USA RATCT had been reaching the second spot for four years consecutively. It's not like the song came out of nowhere. AIWFCIY was ahead on airplay and sales. It was just 2.5 M streams. Mariah should up her game with a couple of big televised events. She needs exposure. Here in NY, I haven't heard RATCT anywhere. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 04:16) this is a reply to message 104,410

Rockin' Around #1 (104,410) by Robert-Anthony from United States It seems like UMG has set a precedent this year with RATCT and its aggressive marketing strategies to get it to number #1 after 65 years. Other record labels are going to follow suit next year. Oh, no. Last Christmas will be 40 years old next Christmas. Will Last Christmas make it number #1 with Sony Legacy's help? Brenda has shown us all it takes is a new video, special guest vocalists, a couple of TV appearances, social media and shady Spotify to help get a Christmas song to number one. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 00:57)

How it went down (104,414) by Edward from USA AIWFCIY - RATCT Streams 32.4 34.9 Airplay 21.5 20.7 Sales 4,000 3,000 Streams and airplay in millions, sales in units. Brenda is number one by 2.5 M streams. It's definitely a tight race. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 01:51)

Rockin' Around #1 (104,413) by Edward from USA Her video hasn't gather that many streams. Mariah's video has way more streams than hers and it is four years old. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 01:30) this is a reply to message 104,410

Rockin' Around #1 (104,410) by Robert-Anthony from United States It seems like UMG has set a precedent this year with RATCT and its aggressive marketing strategies to get it to number #1 after 65 years. Other record labels are going to follow suit next year. Oh, no. Last Christmas will be 40 years old next Christmas. Will Last Christmas make it number #1 with Sony Legacy's help? Brenda has shown us all it takes is a new video, special guest vocalists, a couple of TV appearances, social media and shady Spotify to help get a Christmas song to number one. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 00:57)

Rockin' Around #1 (104,408) by Edward from USA It has a bullet at number 8 on the Hot 100. Before that it was still bubbling under. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 00:49) this is a reply to message 104,407

Rockin' Around #1 (104,407) by Terna from Nigeria I smell a rat. The song didn't even have a bullet on the chart as of last week, now suddenly it is number one. I call bull. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 00:19)

Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,406) by Edward from USA You need to read without your Illuminati glasses on. I stated: "The music industry doesn't have much control over anything anymore. The music industry as we knew it, it's forever gone." They have some control, but not much. The control is in people's hands. Once the genie is out of the bottle, it's a wrap. Don't boycott Brenda now. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 00:17) this is a reply to message 104,400

Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,400) by jaker20 from US I think you need to calm down. Now you're backpedaling again lol. You said the music industry don't have a say, then you say they kind of do. lol. Come out and be real now. (Monday 4 December 2023; 22:07)

Rockin' Around #1 (104,401) by Edward from USA Let's be happy for Brenda. Mariah will be number one again eventually. Other songs have been gaining popularity too. (Monday 4 December 2023; 22:20) this is a reply to message 104,398

Rockin' Around #1 (104,398) by enwar00 from usa It's officially #1 on the Billboard Hot 100. Congrats to Brenda Lee. I imagine Mariah is gracious and happy for her. Maybe this can further help against ageism and Mimi can get to #1 in decades to come still. (Monday 4 December 2023; 21:04)

Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,399) by Edward from USA Labels don't have that much control, period. They have been trying to make artists, songs and albums happen for the longest that never went anywhere. Streaming changed the game, stars and hits have come out straight out of YouTube, streamers gave them that. Promoting helps a lot to bring attention to projects, but people ultimately decide. AIWFCIY has been hitting the top spot for four years in an row, give me a fat effing non-delusional break. Mariah and her team haven't sat their asses down, they have been pushing AIWFCIY way more aggressively than Brenda and her team. Brenda didn't write RATCT, she basically doesn't profit much from it. Stop with the paranoia and conspiracy theories. Wait, I think you're right, the illuminati and Brenda are working together. Who is Brenda sacrificing for the top spot? A lamb, maybe. Who has been boycotting that frail old lady Brenda for four years now? (Monday 4 December 2023; 21:23) this is a reply to message 104,395

Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,395) by jaker20 from US Pedro's post isn't paranoia, is it actually true. I'm not sure you fulling understand how it works. A few days ago, you said labels have no control, and I explained to you how that is not true. Labels can influence placement on playlists through Discovery Mode. It is a feature for artists which is some kind of digital payola, where labels received reduced royalty in exchange for prioritized placement. It is not pay by play, but if you understand algorithms, it is very effective. The placement of a song in a playlist with millions of users is very consequential. Im not sure why you're comparing it to you playlist lol. They are not the same. Regular users normally plays a playlist pushed to them by the app, and then stop at a certain point. So makes a massive difference. So the past few weeks, Mariah has not been added on some of the biggest curated playlists, until recently. Brenda's song has been on playlists mentioned below that often doesn't even have to do with Christmas. And that already works against Mariah in terms of boost from algorithms. It has a slower headstart. Like I said, Brenda's team has been aggressive this year and we give them that credit. Mariah's hasn't, probably they felt they didn't need it which I think is a mistake. (Monday 4 December 2023; 19:02)

Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,392) by Edward from USA That's not boycott or illegal. You don't have to listen to those playlists. Most people have their own playlists anyway, and Spotify is not the only streaming platform. Brenda wasn't at the top of some of those playlists before. Was she being boycotted since AIWFCIY hit number one? I thought we had moved on from the paranoia lambs tend to have about some mega powerful entity coming for Mariah. AIWFIY and RATCT are the Christmas hits they are because millions of people love them and got them there. You can discount, you can gift, you can pray, you can throw a lambtrum, but all that won't make a song popular or hit if people don't like it. (Monday 4 December 2023; 15:55) this is a reply to message 104,389

Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,389) by Pedro from Brazil AIWFCIY was demoted on several Christmas playlists on Spotify, where it used to be in the top positions (some fans noticed that some playlists even removed the song). Boycott? RATCT was elevated on Spotify playlists, perhaps with help from the record label, which is why it's getting more plays than AIWFCIY. It's a question of position in the playlist. The higher it is, the more it will be played. (Monday 4 December 2023; 14:27)

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