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Re: Walter A. gets really candid (91,808) (91,813) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines The musical backdrop is definitely genius through and through. No one is denying that. And sure, some fans can be severely unreasonable with the death threats and there's no excuse for such actions. But none of them would be coming for him if it weren't for his shady, flammable statements in his interviews (no one's attacking any of Mariah's past producers who she has had great working relationships with). She has never denounced his involvement in the song. That is not the same as her skipping over the detail of who produced it, which is the only thing she does in some interviews. She freaking mentioned the old man's name in the Amazon documentary. What more does he want? This is inconsistent behavior for someone who has admitted time and time again how much the song has been a blessing to him. And for him to be agreeing to do these interviews of questionable intentions in a week where it's all about Mariah? Of course he's not gonna be acknowledged as much because Mariah is the artist. As crucial as his contribution was to the song, he's still a behind-the-scenes guy. Dude needs take an entire row of seats to lay on, get a grip of the realistic amount of media attention that is actually afforded to a producer in the music industry and accept that. No one is downplaying the insanity, torment, safety concerns and inconvenience caused by the death threats that he and his family supposedly receives - they definitely do not deserve that. He also has a right to say his side of the story, but he should also be smart to know that it's his statements that fuel this behavior from these fans. It's not about allowing yourself to be bullied into silence - it's about knowing when to decline interviews or at least avoid answering probing questions that could aggravate the more aggressive, less rational members of the Lambily. Not being constantly mentioned by your previous working partner is a small price to pay especially when you reliably receive royalty paychecks for the material you have worked with together. He should stop being a little bitch and be actually appreciative of the fact that not many producers can say they have such a rare lucrative juggernaut like AIWFCIY, and be careful not to disparage the woman who's partly responsible for actually putting him on the map. I'm a fan of Walter's work, but I'm a Mariah fan first, and she has yet to say or do anything that invalidates her recollection of the song's composition, so I stand with her on this. He, on the other hand, is proving himself to be just a whiny, bitter, attention-seeker whose appreciation and respect he has always vocalized for Mariah is yet to be reflected on his actions. (Friday 20 December 2019; 16:31)

Re: New video (91,802) (91,812) by Edward from USA The video has quality and it's visually stunning. Finally, right? As for her camel toe, Jason Derulo sporting a whole camel foot recently and nobody was complaining. (Friday 20 December 2019; 15:56)

Re: Second week at #1 (91,810) (91,811) by Edward from USA With the difference that "AIWFCIY" has an ascending tick on Billboard while "Circles' is stagnant. If Circles goes back to #1 is not because it is ascending, it is because people would've stopped streaming/buying Christmas music after December 25. (Friday 20 December 2019; 15:51)

Re: Second week at #1 (91,792) (91,810) by SM from Citizen of the World I believe the week it became #1, AIWFCIY had 294 points and Circles had 291. (Friday 20 December 2019; 14:19)

AIWFCIY video 2019 edition (91,809) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) This video was fun, festive, and very Mariah and come together very well. Also I have to say that the three night stint on the Late, Late show was another great strategy by MC, and her team that translated very well. MC had fun, and did a great job on each performance reminding us all she is a strong force in the entertainment industry. Lastly I would like to give a huge congratulations to Team MC, on everything that they accomplished during this holiday season, and now they can enjoy the rewards. Also I have to props to our Mariah for spoiling us this year, and also the success that came along with it, she truly deserves it all. (Friday 20 December 2019; 13:44)

Re: Walter A. gets really candid (91,801) (91,808) by Bill from the UK Playing devil's advocate here, it is unfortunate that what should be a happy time of celebration for the pair is mired with Walter receiving death threats online. I mean, come on guys. Death threats? Over a co-writing credit? Grow up. Sometimes being a Mariah fan is embarrassing. Walter played every instrument on that record and gave it the undeniable Christmas sheen. Just listen to the instrumental and tell me that isn't a work of genius. That along with the incredible background vocals from the Price Sisters and Melonie D, and Mariah's flawless and dynamic vocal delivery and brilliant lyric is what created this classic. Everybody involved played their part perfectly. (Friday 20 December 2019; 12:27)

Re: Walter A. gets really candid (91,801) (91,807) by We are Lambily from USA The shade of it all, so basically his most successful songs are with Mariah but she has so many major hits without him. I agree they had magic, but he betrayed her and choose money/status or whatever over her. He took so many producers credit from Mariah, we all know Mariah is the true producer of all of her songs. Mariah deserves to have 18 #1s as a producer. Mariah Carey is the legend she is because of Mariah Carey, did people help her along the way? Yes. But everyone of those people can thank their success due to Mariah. (Friday 20 December 2019; 12:12)

Tommy and Thalia congratulate Mariah (91,806) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I don't know which of Mariah's recent 19th #1-related Insta post did Tommy congratulate her in (he seems to have deleted his comment after all the bashing) but there's this screenshot of it where Tommy basically congratulates her as Santa (a reference to the role he played in the video), jokingly reminding her of the time he said that she wouldn't turn into Connie Francis. He ended the comment with "we did it", which I guess is what ticked most fans off. (And is a classic example of men having to reassert their role in a woman's success.) Below his comment, Thalia also commented a series of congratulatory emojis. Mariah did respond to the man, saying "always the jokester" or something to that effect. Oh well. With Mariah acknowledging Walter's role in the documentary and then this, I guess all is well until the memoir drops. We'll see. (Friday 20 December 2019; 11:35)

Re: New video (91,803) (91,805) by Dennis from Miami, FL I like that the heroine of the video is a mixed race girl. She's like little Mariah in a way. (Friday 20 December 2019; 10:57)

Re: New video (91,802) (91,804) by Tijl from Belgium I love the scenes with the choreography against the Art Deco background. A nice reference to all these Old Hollywood musicals. MC does old style glamour very well. (Friday 20 December 2019; 10:29)

Re: New video (91,802) (91,803) by virgo.miss from australia Lol yes not too sold on the red bodysuit, but on the whole a pretty good video, very festive, with some kind of storyline and very little in the way of excess boobage and self touching. She should get this bloke to direct her videos from now on (though suspect the record co only stumped up for quality director because this song is an assured seller). The old one was fine for those that remember 1994, but it did need freshening up for todays market, and this video has the right amount of self satirisation to have appeal. (Friday 20 December 2019; 09:59)

New video (91,802) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Meanwhile back at the ranch, the new video for All I Want is out and it's pretty good. I'm not sure there's enough going on in it to make people restream a second or third time and I think there might be some comments about a possible camel toe but it's fun and professional looking. It's been a pretty good Christmas for Mariah and Mariah fans. Happy Holidays everyone. Ciao. (Friday 20 December 2019; 09:15)

Re: Walter A. gets really candid (91,793) (91,801) by We are Lambily from USA I been looking everywhere for this new interview where Mariah spoke on all I Want and actually gave Walter his credit. Talking about how Walter thought the melody was simplistic because Mariah ain't a good piano player, but Mariah wrote most of the song before she went to him. If Walter was this genius, he would've had one major hit without Mariah. I honestly don't even know what songs he wrote. Men always try to take credit for women's work. Just ask Taylor Swift. (Friday 20 December 2019; 08:49)

Billboard Magazine shoot (91,800) by Dove from United States Wow, I really love these new pictures. She looks flawless. I love how she looks in that shade of pink and the black dress is amazing. The emerald headpiece too. She's such a queen. (Friday 20 December 2019; 08:31)

Christmas Time amazing (91,799) by Stacey from USA Amazing performance of my favorite songs off MCIIY. (Friday 20 December 2019; 06:57)

Walter A (91,798) by Will from Australia I would love Mariah to work with Walter again to see if they can recreate that magic but I reckon it could sound dated and not for this moment in time. He worked a lot with Leona Lewis on her debut as Simon Cowell tried to reinvent Mariah and although I like Leona and those songs, they went nowhere and are forgotten. I really hope Mariah talks about what really happened with Walter in her book and confirm or deny that he was a rat for Tommy (Friday 20 December 2019; 04:28)

Re: Billboard week of 12.28 (91,794) (91,797) by Hector from Mexico Is like becoming a Madonna fan in the MDNA era, or becoming a "little monster" in the Joanne era. (Friday 20 December 2019; 04:06)

Re: Billboard week of 12.28 (91,794) (91,796) by Victoria from USA Just saw Wendy talking about 19th #1 and then had to discuss the no tip situation. Starts with a positive and ends with a negative. Reminds me of someone who said he was leaving, but keeps on coming back. Andrew Williams. (Friday 20 December 2019; 02:03)

(91,795) by Honeybfly@hawaii from United States Her points for the current week are: #1. AIWFCIY - 290 #2. Circles - 286 Next week early projections: #1. AIWFCIY - 374 #2. Circles - 288 She’s leaving everyone in the dust if this is true. (Friday 20 December 2019; 00:57)

Re: Billboard week of 12.28 (91,789) (91,794) by We are Lambily from USA The only time I bring "negativity" is when I defend Mariah or artists I like. Or when I go after you. I have tried so hard to understand you. Me and you have gone back and forth more times than I count, and every time it's because you try to smear Mariah. Mariah has has had her best year professionally since 2014, she finally has her confidence back and it's only going upwards. I wish you loved Mariah today as much as you love the 90s Mariah, I became a lamb during Triumphant era and that song was my jam. The remixes proved to me that nobody in industry could still sing like her. Btw that nobody heard. (Thursday 19 December 2019; 21:42)

Re: Walter A. gets really candid (91,775) (91,793) by Ethan from United States Honestly, I think she's been standing up to claim a lot of songs she co-wrote his Walter A. are hers because she already had the music in her head and lyrics on paper. Yes, there are some songs that they sat down and collaborated together and such. But I think for AIWFCIY and Hero are some of the songs she went for a walk or into a room and those melodies and lyrics came to her. Because she's not a trained pianist so she needs someone to play the melodies she heard so that they could write the music notes. Recently, she seems to be amicable with him by mentioning his name in the Genius and Amazon Music interviews. To me, that was very surprising. They don't talk to each other anymore but it's a chapter that she's closed and moved on. To say that he's under Sony and there's no other alternative is somewhat hard to believe. It was his or Tommy's choice. Mariah still made #1s and Rainbow under Sony/Colombia. Unless Mariah explicitly said no to working with any producers that had an exclusive contract with Sony. Thus, I can see she continued to work with Babyface, Jermaine Dupri, and then recruited Jimmy James & Terry Lewis, and others. (Thursday 19 December 2019; 21:22)

Re: Second week at #1 (91,790) (91,792) by Susana from USA What were the points for last week? (Thursday 19 December 2019; 20:40)

Mariah on James Corden (91,791) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines She sang Oh Santa and Christmas Time Is In The Air Again. Wise move since AIWFCIY is already everywhere. The main vocals are fully live you guys. Plus these are the most comforable she has looked performing on TV in a looooong time. Best part is she actually looks like she's having fun and wants to be there. Such a treat. (Thursday 19 December 2019; 19:50)

Second week at #1 (91,790) by Honeybfly@hawaii from United States If the projections hold, Mariah will be number one next week. Lol she projected to have 90-100 points over circles at 374>288. (Thursday 19 December 2019; 18:22)

Re: Billboard week of 12.28 (91,786) (91,789) by Andrew from the United Kingdom You are the one bringing negativity here, somewhat ironically. A debate has indeed become a squabble. I still don't believe you can claim to have a number 1 record in 2020 if the sales that achieved it were in 2019. But I realise and accept that it's the title that crosses over. Even if the sales do not. Thank you for praying for me. (Thursday 19 December 2019; 18:01)

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