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About Bill from the UK:
I love Mariah more than you do.
London Daydream Tour Attendee.
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Terna from Nigeria (42,412)
by Bill from the UK
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Wow.
(Monday 31 March 2014; 20:56)
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Randy and retirement (42,411)
by Bill from the UK
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That was a hilarious post Randy, Sprain So made me laugh like a drain. As for retirement, if she did announce such a thing, I wouldn't mind because I know she'd return at some point and it'd be interesting to see if she focused on writing songs for other artists and finally get recognition for what a great songwriter she is (something I always think is overlooked). With most female singers, once they become mothers the frequency of albums slows down. Happens with almost all of them and that's completely understandable.
(Monday 31 March 2014; 20:54)
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Dream (42,378)
by Bill from the UK
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I had a dream I was at a fancy restaurant and Mariah was performing. The maître d' then said as he knew I was a fan, she would perform sat at my table. I was over the moon. She arrived, and looked completely different because she was in regular clothes and hadn't applied her make up or done her hair yet. We hugged. She went to get ready and then she called my phone because she was nervous. We had a heart to heart and then cheekily asked when her new album was coming out. She said she felt the bubble had gone off the wine and wasn't going to release it, and I was devastated. I hope that element doesn't turn true. As he Nick, the man needs to exercise some decorum. It's just low rent to talk like that, about any lady, not just our Mariah.
(Saturday 29 March 2014; 8:56)
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Gilbert / J Lo (42,358)
by Bill from the UK
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Haha J Lo autocorrected to J Lol. Anyway, yes there is a history between the two. When Mariah left Sony for Virgin, it wasn't on the best of terms. Sony had the rights to the Glitter soundtrack in Japan, and so Tommy Mottola allegedly had access to the songs before they were released. J.Lo released a song which used an obscure sample (Firecracker by Yellow Magic Orchestra) which was the sample used in the original version of Loverboy. Mariah had to re-sing and re-record the song with a new sample (Candy) and Mariah's been pissed at J.Lo and Sony's campaign to derail her career ever since.
(Thursday 27 March 2014; 21:23)
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First time (42,357)
by Bill from the UK
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I've enjoyed reading gall of your stories, this is a great subject. I first heard Dreamlover back in 1993. My older brother was obsessed with the MTV Countdown and I used to watch it with him. I remember loving her look, and her voice. I thought she had a speech impediment due to the way she sang "insi-eede" and "tii-eem" lol. Then Hero came out and I again loved the song and the video, and remembered seeing the Hero cassette in a record shop and almost buying it. My real obsession came, like many of us Europeans, when Without You took our entire continent by storm. I wonder why that song connected to us all so much. I bought the cassette single, and soon after the Music Box album. My bedroom was being painted and I was sharing my brother's room in a sleeping bag, and I would listen to the album on my Walkman all night long. Reading the lyrics, admiring the pictures, and eager to listen to her other records that were advertised in the inlay.
(Thursday 27 March 2014; 21:18)
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SS (42,305)
by Bill from the UK
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I couldn't have put it better myself. I listened to Butterfly and Charmbracelet just this morning and enjoyed them as much as on the first listen. Yesterday I listened to The Ballads for some variety, and lately I have been enjoying the debut album more than ever. That's just something so humble and innocent about that whole record, the whole world was completely unaware of what was about to unfold off the back of it. Although the variety of producers do give it a somewhat disjointed feel, tracks like Alone In Love, Sent From Up Above, All In Your Mind are just as great as the singles. I've read some great articles about Butterfly and Breakdown which I will send to the webmaster in a hope he will share with the fans.
(Sunday 23 March 2014; 17:28)
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SS (42,300)
by Bill from the UK
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SS, I love that remix. It was posted on here a while ago and I listen to it daily.
(Saturday 22 March 2014; 23:17)
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Special K (42,287)
by Bill from the UK
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That is a great story about your encounter with MC, thank you for sharing. Lol, if Mariah had asked for my copy of her album I wouldn't have been able to refuse her haha.
(Saturday 22 March 2014; 8:42)
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Carly (42,255)
by Bill from the UK
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I did have to laugh that your message about being censored was censored, haha. Sorry. In other news, I'm sort of anxious that this album may turn into another Angels Advocate. I hope Mariah does something for her birthday (sorry, anniversary of being 12) like she usually does. Even if it's just the title or a snippet from a track, or even the release of Thirsty. That would be great.
(Thursday 20 March 2014; 19:26)
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Singles (42,230)
by Bill from the UK
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On the main I've agreed with the singles the respective record companies chose to release. The only real regret I have is that Breakdown never got its time in the spotlight. It was by far and away one of her greatest compositions from all aspects (melody, lyrics, mood, the inclusion of Bone Thugs, the staccato singing style), and was really the backbone of the Butterfly album. That, and The Roof for similar reasons. I know they had limited releases around the world though. I remember hearing how The Roof was due as the third single from Butterfly in the UK, but was pulled as it wasn't felt it suited her UK audience. Explains the long gap until My All came out as a single.
(Wednesday 19 March 2014; 16:06)
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Stephen / Edward (42,228)
by Bill from the UK
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Stephen, I was at work and snuck in a sneaky check of the message board and literally lol'd myself half to death at you putting on TAOLG and then abruptly switching to Daydream. Absolutely hilarious, I could just picture you doing that and it's the sort of thing I'd do too haha. I forgot Without You as a favourite single cover. She looks absolutely gorgeous in that shot, and so sad. I get what you're saying Edward but it did make me laugh that for weeks everyone's been bad mouthing Mariah and giving her career advice (didn't realise so many of the posters here worked in the industry lol) and then as soon as somebody else does a war breaks out.
(Wednesday 19 March 2014; 16:01)
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Best/worst album and single covers (42,200)
by Bill from the UK
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I love topics like this. For albums, my best would be: 1. Emotions (love the sepia tone and the fact Mariah, her name, the album title and the track listing are all at angles) 2. Butterfly (eyes closed, just beautiful and captured the mood of the record perfectly) 3. Music Box (her lovely face). Worst album covers: 1. Glitter (hate the pink, shimmer, and not a fan of Mariah's bleached blonde look) 2. Rainbow (I remember being embarrassed for Mariah when I saw this in the record store and surprised at how unashamedly sexy it was) 3. MOAIA (don't get the three Mariah thing, think one of her would have worked better) Single covers: 1. Always be my baby (this is why it is my picture, I squealed when I walked into the record store after school knowing that was the day it came out, and loved the hat, the hair, the gold lettering, everything about it) 2. Vision of love (Mariah and the microphone is somewhat of an iconic image for me) 3. Make it happen (I love the sunny tone, the shadow of Mariah being used for the reverse, just think it's beautiful) Worst single covers: 1. I'll be lovin' u long time (her head looks elongated) 2. Against all odds (solo version), not a fan of the hair, outfit or pose 3. Don't stop (only really liked the Loverboy shoot from this era)
(Tuesday 18 March 2014; 20:08)
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Kelly Price (42,197)
by Bill from the UK
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Lol, it's ironic that everybody's up in arms about Kelly Price and what she supposedly said about Mariah, when all we do ourselves is sit here criticising the way her voice sounds now compared to the Daydream era.
(Tuesday 18 March 2014; 19:17)
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Memoirs (42,132)
by Bill from the UK
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Personally the tracks we've had from the new album so far have all been better than the filler from Memoirs. The only songs I listen to are Betcha Gon Know, HATEU, Ribbon, It's A Wrap and IWTKWLI. The rest? Meh. Beautiful, TAOLG and to a lesser extend YME have all excited me more.
(Saturday 15 March 2014; 19:35)
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#2's (42,036)
by Bill from the UK
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I've equally been as baffled by the sings which didn't reach #1 in the UK as well. I'll Be There was constantly on the airwaves at the time, and Mariah did an absolutely stunning rendition of the song on Top of the Pops, almost acapella. Just her, the back up singers and a piano. Absolutely electric performance. AIWFCIY ended up being her biggest seller here in the UK and arguably her best known song here, but was kept off by the rather drab Stay Another Day by East 17. And then of course We Belong Together narrowly missed he top spot, such a disappointment as this would have been Mariah's first #1 here of her own hand.
(Sunday 9 March 2014; 16:23)
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Isaac (42,018)
by Bill from the UK
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Wow. Isaac came and went as fast as Triumphant.
(Friday 7 March 2014; 19:27)
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You guys (42,007)
by Bill from the UK
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You all literally have me in hysterics sometimes. I laughed so much at the comment about how MTV Unplugged 2 would be the "final nail in the coffin" and how her appearances are now all about "boobs, ass and attitude", and to the person who said that as fans all we do is complain and argue about every aspect of her career - huge lol. It's funny because it's true. You all are great, don't ever change.
(Thursday 6 March 2014; 20:29)
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In preparation for May 6th (41,936)
by Bill from the UK
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1990 facts: "I don't wanna cry" was intended as the second single before the whole "Love takes time" drama happened. 1991 facts: The album was originally titled "The Wind". "You're so cold" was intended as the lead single. "And you don't remember" was intended as the fourth single but plans were dropped after "I'll be there" took off. 1992 facts: "I'll be there" was a last minute addition to the set list (replacing "Vanishing"), decided the evening before the performance. 1993 facts: The original version of "Dreamlover" was deemed too street for Mariah's audience, so Walter Afanasieff produced and re-arranged it accordingly. The original version appeared on the Australian single under the guise of the "Bam Jam Soul Mix". 1994 facts: A fun, mock song was recorded called "He carves the roast beast", which was Mariah messing around with the Price sisters. 1995 facts: Rumours around why "Slipping away" was kept off the album are either due to the lyrical content strongly resembling Mariah and Tommy's failing marriage, or because it was thought as too R&B for her audiences. 1997 facts: Walter and Mariah ended their professional relationship during the making of the "Butterfly" album. As such, many of the tracks he was involved with are unfinished by his standards. He citied "My all" and "Whenever you call" as sparse ballads missing his usual schmaltzy flair. 1998 facts: The original album cover was a black and white shot of Mariah in the limo from the photo shoot for the single cover for "The Roof". A second disc, featuring remixes was planned but scrapped. This second disc became the promotional "12's" box set. So disc one would have been "1's" and disc two "12's". 1999 facts: Mariah completed the album in three months (as opposed to four years.) A duet with Lauryn Hill entitled "Crystal ball" was written but never saw the light of day. 2001 facts: The "Firecracker" sample which Jennifer Lopez stole can be heard on the remix of "Loverboy". Da Brat sings her diss to J.Lo to the Firecracker melody (hate on me much as you want to, you can't do what the bleep I do, just be imitating me daily). "Lead the way" was a leftover track from "Butterfly". I don't know anymore about her recent releases. Any of you all got anything else others may not know?
(Sunday 2 March 2014; 22:10)
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Lamb from the USA / length of posts (41,934)
by Bill from the UK
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Lol, I do agree with you. Sometimes I am guilty of writing too much. When scrolling through this board I read the titles and if the post is long I'm like "Whatever, I'm getting cheese fries."
(Sunday 2 March 2014; 20:34)
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JT (41,910)
by Bill from the UK
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Wouldn't it be cool if Mariah either remade or used the unreleased version of Yours for the new album with Justin? I've always longed to hear that track, and the solo version was one of the best tracks on Charmbracelet, shame that never made it out as a single.
(Saturday 1 March 2014; 23:34)
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Champagne (41,815)
by Bill from the UK
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It's plain as day to me that the champagne is what is wrecking her career. I was watching an old video from 1996 on YouTube and she was saying how all she drinks is water and honey tea "to help her voice". I remember at the Daydream concert in London (oh what a night that was, so glad I saw her during her peak) she regularly paused to drink honey and lemon tea between songs. Now it's splashes this and splashes that. She can barely strong a sentence together now in interviews and cannot sing live anymore. Whatever issues she has which is causing her to depend on alcohol, she needs to take her own advice and let go.
(Thursday 27 February 2014; 8:12)
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Lol (41,782)
by Bill from the UK
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Every time I come on here now, we seem to be talking more about Issac than Mariah lol. I read the article about YME tanking and, personally, I get it. To me it sounded like a slowed down Your Girl to the We Belong Together beat. Just didn't click for me. That said, I loved Beautiful and TAOLG. I still play Beautiful a lot because I love the guitar and the driving drum loop, it sounds fresh and current. YME sounded like another WBT rehash. We've had WBT, Don't Forget About Us, I Stay In Love, Angels Cry. How many more before she gives up on trying to recreate a ten year old hit?
(Wednesday 26 February 2014; 18:16)
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Facebook pictures (41,091)
by Bill from the UK
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Who else loves the black and white pictures on Mariah's Facebook page, with her holding the microphone? I really hope they are used for the new album.
(Monday 10 February 2014; 20:31)
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You're Mine (41,077)
by Bill from the UK
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It would appear all the videos on YouTube of the audio from the BET concert have been deleted to suppress the leak. Only a few more days to wait. I will be honest though I wasn't exactly elated with the song. The only lead off songs I have loved have been AIWFCIY, Fantasy, Heartbreaker and Touch My Body.
(Monday 10 February 2014; 18:09)
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Dreamlover (40,894)
by Bill from the UK
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Being a UK fan, hearing Mariah on the radio is a rare treat. When she is played, it's usually an adult contemporary station playing Hero. I was waiting in all day for a delivery on Wednesday, and had the radio on (Magic 105.4 for those in the UK). I almost peed my pants when I heard the first bars of Dreamlover playing! I haven't heard that on the radio here since 1995! The only songs I've heard in the last ten years are Hero, Without You, I'll Be There, We Belong Together and of course AIWFCIY. Just thought I'd share the highlight of my day.
(Friday 31 January 2014; 8:51)
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