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Re: Does anyone here even stream music? (88,692) (88,695) by Matthew from USA I'm a 90's Mariah fan and I stream music. I'm not understanding the concept of not having time to stream music. When I am on the subway or doing some programming at my desk, or at the gym, I pull out my headphones, I press the screen on my phone, and the music starts to play. I mean, I guess that is time consuming as opposed to the other methods of listening to music when you want, where you want. But no, I'm not getting it. Help. Is this some kind of inside joke? Also, in defense of middle-aged people, we do stream. Radio makes us feel old, and the cars no longer have CD players, they have baby seats, GPS and bluetooth speakers. So I'm just really confused right now and I'm imagining an old school lamb trying to configure a record player to their Toyota Camry. So yeah, I think I'm going to go back to my quiet corner now, because this thread is wild. Who has time to stream music is sort of like saying who has time to listen to music, no? Just tap the screen. Silly lambs. (Tuesday 19 March 2019; 16:48)

Re: Does anyone here even stream music? (88,687) (88,694) by Edward from USA I always knew that comment would come down to bite her ass because nobody stays popular forever and I knew her turn would come. Besides, at that point it was a rumor what Madonna had said, there was no video or recording of her stating anything like that. It's good that Mariah came to her senses and praised her at the Grammys following TEOM. Madonna and Mariah are iconic and in the same boat now, Madonna can't score a hit and Mariah, well, she's annihilating the R&B charts in Tangamandapio. At least I still like Mariah's music. I stopped listening to Madonna after she released the album Music when I was 7. (Tuesday 19 March 2019; 15:28)

Re: Does anyone here even stream music? (88,687) (88,693) by RibbonB from USA The queen must revive and rehab her hive. (Tuesday 19 March 2019; 15:23)

Re: Does anyone here even stream music? (88,690) (88,692) by RibbonB from USA Exactly. I have Sirius XM in my vehicle, and a lil Spotify membership, I even watch Mimi's Vevo videos on YouTube, so they count, lol. But miss girl must know that she's not my life, not my world, I'm limitless, along with my choices in music. Mariah is and will always be one of my faves though. I always check for her and wish her the best and yes I buy her CDs for the collection and reflection, but I have limited time to stream anybody. (Tuesday 19 March 2019; 15:16)

Re: Does anyone here even stream music? (88,689) (88,691) by Chicago Lamb from USA I've got a 5-changer cd deck on my receiver with surround sound throughout my home, and a cd player in my car. I've got a Sony speaker dock in my bathroom with an iPod loaded with music. I don't stream at all. A little old school but that's how I consume my Mariah music. Caution is a great album, still on repeat. (Tuesday 19 March 2019; 13:47)

Re: Does anyone here even stream music? (88,682) (88,690) by Licia from USA All of this Ribbon. I know how to stream, I just don't have the time to do it. I honestly just don't care about it. I buy the albums and singles I like. I've done my duty as a fan. (Tuesday 19 March 2019; 13:21)

Re: Does anyone here even stream music? (88,681) (88,689) by Todd from Melbourne, Australia Yes. I haven't had an actual CD since MOAIA. Then everything was iTunes or "finding online", but for the last 2 years it's been nothing but Spotify. I don't even think my car has a cd player come to think of it. (Tuesday 19 March 2019; 12:06)

Re: Does anyone here even stream music? (88,685) (88,688) by MusicfanJ from Germany I do it like Dove, I have all the albums from my favorite artists on cd. And I still love to buy cd's and to collect them. I have digital downloads, but don't stream with iTunes or Tindal or whatever. I do enjoy and appreciate music more if I have it on a physical copy. Anyway I also think the group who are streaming the most are teens and young twens, it's not Mariah's fan base like Ribbon already mentioned. We may have less time than the teens, but we have money to buy good music. (Tuesday 19 March 2019; 11:20)

Re: Does anyone here even stream music? (88,682) (88,687) by Bill from the UK The thing no one seems to have realised is Mariah was popular in the 90s. Fact. Mariah's fans from the 90s are now inching ever closer towards middle age. They still buy their music because they always did. So the fact her albums don't sell indicates that fanbase from back then has all but depleted. As it has been said, she needs to reinvent herself just as she did in 1997. A complete overhaul of image, style, music, producers, singing style etc. would be something that would be of interest to everybody - both old fans, newer fans, and millennials. Nick Cannon really shed light on it when he said she got offended when Ariana referred to her as a "legend", as she very clearly saw herself as competing at that level and wasn't ready to be relegated to that status. It's ironic really that in 1996 MC made that comment about Madonna, "Really I haven't paid attention to Madonna since second grade, when she used to be popular." Oh Mariah. What goes around comes around. (Tuesday 19 March 2019; 10:18)

Re: Still listening (88,679) (88,686) by anonymous from UK I was so upset by your message I almost considered changing my pic haha. Almost. (Tuesday 19 March 2019; 04:08)

Re: Does anyone here even stream music? (88,681) (88,685) by Dove from United States I buy CD's and digital albums by my favorite artists but I don't stream. I like to own my music and there are so few new artists that interest me; paying for a subscription to a streaming service is not worth it for me. (Tuesday 19 March 2019; 02:05)

Mariah (88,684) by jaker20 from US I want MC to be more serious about her look and tone down the sexy. I like her look just before TEOM blew up especially the the interviews she did. But she reverted back to Glitter and Rainbow look during E=MC2 and she stayed there. (Tuesday 19 March 2019; 01:41)

Re: Caution: we're getting on each other's nerves (88,680) (88,683) by jaker20 from US Mimi gave us a great album. I was worried for awhile because of MIAMTEC and now I really believe she's headed in the right direction. I know her next album will be even more inspired. (Tuesday 19 March 2019; 01:35)

Re: Does anyone here even stream music? (88,681) (88,682) by RibbonB from USA Most of us employed people can't sit around streaming all day, let alone specifically stream Mimi music. Take it up with the music stealing millenials, since you want to stereotype. Seriously, all these YouTube/Twitter stans probably do more stanning than anything of value. Mariah has to learn to cater to all her fan base and particularly suss out the paying fans, no matter the format. And these legacy artists, on the cusp of baby boomers, gen x and y and whatever other groups will want to hit all those bases. (Tuesday 19 March 2019; 01:21)

Does anyone here even stream music? (88,681) by jaker20 from US All these non-stop talk of CDs and sales in 2019 explains why Mariah isn't even charting anymore lol. (Tuesday 19 March 2019; 00:16)

Re: Caution: we're getting on each other's nerves (88,673) (88,680) by Randy from USA Whoa B. You must really ignore my posts. I never said she hasn't hit greatness since 1995/1996. My favorite song by her is Right To Dream. That was 22 years after Daydream. And that impromptu for the fans at Jimmy Fallon in 2012 was pretty great in my opinion. That letter B suits you. As a description I mean. I kid. I kid. (Tuesday 19 March 2019; 00:04)

Re: Still listening (88,676) (88,679) by Edward from USA Why do you do that? You know B has a fetish with underarm hair, and here you are rubbing your bush on his face. That's so mean. No wonder he still thinks "With You" is slaying the R&B charts. (Monday 18 March 2019; 22:32)

Re: Still listening (88,676) (88,678) by Bill from the UK I love Emotions. That album is divine. The whole Emotions era was brilliant and her look in those three videos was nothing short of breath taking. That was "Classic Mariah" through and though and I wonder how things would have gone had she not gone down the pop route of Music Box and stuck to soul. The mind boggles. For me, mis-step albums are hard to define. I think one is (CB, Memoirs, E=MC2), but when I listen to them, I love more or less every song haha. For me she's never put out a bad album which is why I love her so much. (Monday 18 March 2019; 20:36)

Re: Caution: we're getting on each other's nerves (88,665) (88,677) by anonymous from UK Can't last Randy? Have you ever seen "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane"? I kid, of course, but I enjoy Mariah being a character more than I would enjoy her being what you describe. She's a megastar legend, not a regular person on the street. Frankly, people are becoming too boring and vanilla, I love MC and her eccentricities, I love that she's a dividing character who people either love or hate. She's a bit loopy, a bit unhinged, and great fun. If she wants to think she's 12 when she's 80, I'm all for it. Be yourself to the end, don't be a regular. She's nuts, I'm nuts, the world is nuts and I love it. (Monday 18 March 2019; 18:39)

Re: Still listening (88,667) (88,676) by anonymous from UK Haha Bill, I've gotta reiterate and I have said it before, I love Heartbreaker, CTTA, Bliss, Heartbreaker remix, Crybaby and TGIFY. I love so many songs from that album, but it just doesn't click or connect with me as a whole and so many songs I straight up don't like. It's MC's one mis-step for me, out of a catalogue of albums I adore, but I'm so happy it gets the love it does. Just because something doesn't connect with me, I don't think it's rubbish, just not my taste. Even the much loved Petals does not a lot for me, depending on how I feel. It's very hard for me to pick my fave MC albums (right now I'd say Emotions, CB and Caution but that changes all the time) but if you asked my least favourite, it would be Rainbow without hesitation. (Monday 18 March 2019; 17:51)

Re: Caution: we're getting on each other's nerves (88,670) (88,675) by Shezz from Pk Totally. It felt like it was more of a list of right and wrong, black and white. So so many shades of gray here. (Monday 18 March 2019; 17:01)

Re: Caution: we're getting on each other's nerves (88,665) (88,674) by Matthew from USA Caution did get rave reviews. If you're a fan, that can be cause for celebration. You may not want to celebrate that, which is fine, but there's no need to get in the way of the fans that do. Is her microphone just a prop? She's currently on tour, with articles rolling in daily claiming otherwise, but maybe those are all written by one of the two types of folks on this board. She needs to make mature music befitting a legend? Well, she made Caution, a mature R&B album that has garnered her the best reviews of her career. But perhaps that's not what you think a legend should be doing. I suppose it's a matter of perspective. Some folks see the glass half full, others see it half empty. We need both. What I will do is list a few of Mariah's contemporaries: Whitney, Celine, Toni, Janet, Boyz II Men, Jodeci, TLC, Lil Kim, Luther, Shania, En Vogue, Nirvana, Alanis, Paula Cole, Lauryn Hill. These are all artists that were doing well during Mariah's rise and peak. Looking through that list gives me some perspective when I start getting too negative. (Monday 18 March 2019; 14:33)

Re: Caution: we're getting on each other's nerves (88,670) (88,673) by B from USA I like how he's categorized as someone who knows she's capable of so much more and yet according to him he hasn't been capable of greatness since 1995/1996. (Monday 18 March 2019; 14:24)

Re: 40 million on YouTube views for Caution (88,659) (88,672) by B from USA When I said this era should be compared to the Charmbracelet era I didn't mean statically. Both albums came after a disappointing period in Mariah's career however Charmbracelet was critically derided while Caution is critically acclaimed. Critics openly questioned not only Mariah's ability to sing on Charmbracelet but her ability to write. Selling 200,000 ww copies of an album in this day and age is the equivalent of going platinum in the 90's. Considering the best selling album of the year only sold 1.6 million ww in combined sales. [Webmaster: This is in the UK only, not world wide.] Caution has sold what it has in less than four months while it's taken Charmbracelet almost 16 years to sell 3 million copies and it was released when albums still routinely sold 5 to 10 million copies. (Monday 18 March 2019; 14:22)

Re: 40 million on YouTube views for Caution (88,666) (88,671) by RibbonB from USA Memoirs sold 168,000 in its first week alone and is estimated one million sales word wide. It also has two charting singles, with Obsessed being in the top ten. (Monday 18 March 2019; 14:00)

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