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Article: Mariah reveals the story behind her legendary jeans (86,352) by george from Karnataka
Hey. I recently met your blog, and I only want to say that since now I'm following you, you're fantastic, so trend. And this idea is fabulous.
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 08:00)
Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,307) (86,351) by Steven Berning from USA
Is it all that, though? Why you mad though? lol. It is that deep? The answers are endless, has Mariah changed, has the industry changed, is she trying to stay relevant, at what cost, does she still care, why didn't she throw us ballad-loving fans a bone? Not even one bone? And, Portrait is not a bone lol, etc. That said, reviewers do not agree with you. Even Roger. By the way, you and Roger should go and commiserate.

If she wants to be something she is not, who are we to control her to tailor to our needs? She is still human. She goes through life changes that we know nothing about. We only think we do. If she were our employer, we are at-will employees. Go to Dion's camp. You may decrease your blood pressure.

We are not her employers. We think we are because we buy her music, revere her, and keep her in business, but we are not her employer. My point, we can take this pretty high level. As you so eloquently did. However, she has a right to do what she wants. She pandered to her audience with her last album and it still didn't sell well. Why not indulge yourself even if others do not perceive that as the "real" you. Especially, people who have never met you and are not your inner circle.
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 07:37)
Re: Why torture yourself? (86,326) (86,350) by Will from Australia
Nailed it Todd. That cracked me up.
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 06:20)
Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,306) (86,349) by jaker20 from US
Complaining about Mariah being fake for 20 years is kind of tragic. Maybe she wrote Portrait for people like you, sorry can't help it. But how are you not able to move on? You don't like most of her output after 1997 cause she's no longer the diva balladeer. That's the same person she wanted to get away from. Its a great era, but that's the past. If anything, she's truer to herself now. This is the first album where she embraces the current state of her voice and she's more urban than ever, somewhere in the middle and just the right combo imo, and career-wise, as somsone who's achieved everything, she has to decide if she will evolve. Besides we don't really know her, everything around her now influence her. She's getting great reviews, and that's great encouragement to someone who already achieved everything to keep going. She produced some great music here. This album proves she can adapt and her best is yet to come. Those not changing their style isn't integrity, its that they're just not capable of doing it. Ability to change is a strength not a weakness.
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 05:56)
Suss One interview (86,348) by 123 from USA
She's really everywhere. She's done so many radio interviews. This one is more relaxed. I loved the convo between the both of them. Why do I feel like Suss has feelings for her? I wonder if they dated in the past. The car/police story is old. They told it during the MIAM era. Which shows that Mariah has hung around and been emersed in her urban/black/her own culture more often than not since her divorce and witnessesed racial profiling. I love the remix talk and actually getting back in the studio for a session. Looks like Suss is going to make some calls to make the Cardi/Kim remix happen. I love all of their private stories and Mariah's microwave anology to today's music.
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 05:37)
TRL Elevator (86,347) by 123 from USA
This looks like so much fun. All the lambs looked so excited. MC looks like she is so much fun to hang out with. They got to sing along with her and stand next to her without security keeping them at bay. It feels like we got the old Mariah back. The one that pushed her product with interviews on radio and tv, good tv performances, cd signings, and cool fan interaction moments. In recent years she seemed reclusive and untouchable. Didn't one of the lambs on this board say he was in the elevator with her. Care to reveal who you are? It looked like a good time
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 05:30)
Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,313) (86,346) by B from USA
Mariah makes an album that updates her signature sound seamlessly by collaborating with the best producers in the industry while remaining true to herself and yet somehow she's not being herself?
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 05:24)
Mariah on DJ Suss-One (86,345) by Chicago Lamb from USA
The interviews of the Caution era have been stellar. Real, honest, and candid. We love when she's not afraid to talk.
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 05:18)
Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,319) (86,344) by B from USA
Didn't Mariah insist on working with Walter after they clicked while working on Love Takes Time despite his protestations that she continue to work with already established producers like Walden and Wake? Walter and Mariah were a modern day Lennon and McCartney but he took Mottola's side over her's and has faded into obscurity while Mariah is still relevant. At least he got a Grammy for producer of the year as a consolation prize for ending his working relationship with Mariah by selling her out to Tommy. Despite his anxiety and worry that by incorporating hip-hop and R&B into her music she would alienate her fans it has helped her maintain relevance for the past 20 years while her contemporaries haven't been relevant since 2000.
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 05:15)
Re: A No No feat. Cardi B and Li'l Kim (86,291) (86,343) by Special K from USA
I say not only feature Lil Kim and Cardi B, but add another wow factor. I think folks would absolutely loose it if she also had Ariana Grande and Camila Cabello sing added lyrics to that track. Camila Cabello should sing in Spanish.
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 05:01)
Re: A No No feat. Cardi B and Li'l Kim (86,298) (86,342) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
Apparently both Cardi and Kim's team knows about Mariah's interest. Plus Mariah went on Suss One's radio show and talked about the collaboration again, so I think it will happen. Mariah has hardly ever been so specific about which collaborator she wants on which song. But in a span of a few days she mentioned this collaboration twice. It's a brilliant idea. It can be like a girl's anthem and about girl power.
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 04:51)
Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,306) (86,341) by IheartMC from USA
Whoa dude, chill out. You sound really upset at Mariah. Let's just be grateful that we still have our Legend M doing her thing. I for one have been a fan since 92 (Emotions era) and I would love for her to bring back that classic Mariah sound back, but those days are gone for her and the industry really. She is moving with the times and I think she did a great job all things considered. I for one already realized Mariah has all the substance in the world and versatile one could as for as a fan. Let her just have her fun as she has most certainly earned it. If she wants to do sexy hip she is allowed. I am surprised she was able to sound sexy, layered and all. I don't think Mariah has any other album that sounds like this album. Albeit, it may not be her best vocally, sonically it's fresh, flirty and fun. Dude just drink some wine and chill out listening to the album which is how I think she intended it to be. My favorite was listening to it in the car. Just wishing Mariah health and happiness for this year. She should be proud of herself for putting out decent work. I for one am interested in seeing what else she has in store for us. Btw, I love runway. I can't believe she didn't include that in the album but I think she was referring to her handlers or the industry lyrically.

Top picks:
Caution
Giving me life
A No No
The Distance
GTFO
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 04:27)
Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,306) (86,340) by Bobby A from United States
I reread your post again. I can understand how you feel, but every artist has to evolve as the music industry changes. MC is just leading the evolution of R&B music into the pop arena. Who's still in the game like MC from 25 years ago? Let's see what type music she releases when she is 50 years old. How much will her voice have changed from 2018?
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 04:02)
Re: Mariah at New Years festivities (86,316) (86,339) by Special K from USA
Hilton, make it happen, lol. Love reading your posts.
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 03:18)
Why torture yourself (86,338) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
Honestly no matter what MC does personally or professionally some fans will be unhappy. But for me if everything she does annoys you or you feel like you have outgrown her and her music maybe it is time to move on and there is nothing wrong with that. No need to torture yourself anymore trying to hang around and your unhappy with MC and her choices.
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 03:16)
Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,328) (86,337) by Special K from USA
Spot on. Love this post Ribbon.
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 03:14)
Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,323) (86,336) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
I'm not saying I don't enjoy things on Caution. Because I do. I am just saying I can understand why some fans do find the contrast between projects. Things are very different today as opposed to when she started.
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 02:54)
Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,306) (86,335) by Special K from USA
Hmm, mmm. I actually agree with some points. I think Mariah like many other artists do sacrifice their artistry in varying degrees throughout the years. Times change. This ain't the 90's. Music evolves just like career artists do with the changing times but at the of the day I believe Mariah's integrity is in tact. With that said, it amazes me how folks think they know who the "real" Mariah Carey is. To me your expressing your own conflicting, self doubting insecurity baggage onto Mariah. You want her to be something she is not and that within itself is tragic coming from a fan. For the past 20 plus years Mariah has expressed over and over again how she had to fight the powers that be that wanted her to portray an image that she simply was not. I would think we as fans, especially us fans who have been there since the 90's would know that but most importantly accept that. I believe Mariah is very much in tune to who she is what she is about and has no problem expressing every facet of her being. I believe Caution is exactly the type of album that Mariah with her heart, body, and soul wanted to put out. Wake the hell up. Mariah is a very conflicted insecure person and that is okay. Aren't we all at times? Mariah is corny as hell. Loves Hello Kitty, Rainbows, and butterflies. Mariah is a freaky sex pot kitten. Mariah is a huge fan of hip hop. Mariah is bi racial. Mariah has a huge heart and there are many untold stories of her generosity. The problem is that there are certain folks/fans that will never, ever, in life accept the fact that Mariah is no longer the image they want her to be. Which is the innocent looking white girl running around in the corn fields with pigtails. When are y'all gonna learn you was fooled during those years?
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 02:49)
Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,327) (86,334) by B from USA
I'm not suprised by the posters that have given Caution negative reviews, they're nothing if not consistent in their negativity. It perplexes me why if they no longer enjoy anything she does, do they continue to follow her or visit a fan site daily droning on and on about how her new music underwhelms and is subpar to her 90's recordings. Mariah released an 90's inspired album four years ago and it flopped so she took a different approach with her new album and it paid off. Caution has received some of the best notices of her 28 year career.
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 02:38)
Re: Why torture yourself? (86,326) (86,333) by Special K from USA
Amen to that.
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 01:33)
Eddie (86,332) by Andrew from UK
Did I miss your review? I am genuinely interested to read the main posters to this board, whether I agree or not.
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 01:01)
Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,306) (86,331) by Andrew from UK
That was insightful and really brutally honest. Bloody hell. You remind me of my posts a few years ago. I can promise you such insight is wasted here. andrewjamesgold@gmail.com If I haven't pissed you off already, message me. Let's WhatsApp. What absolute truth.
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 00:53)
Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,306) (86,330) by Chicago Lamb from USA
In Mariah's own words, "It ain't that serious, dahling."
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 00:51)
Re: Re: Giving me life (86,263) (86,277) (86,329) by Andrew from UK
There's a comparison video on YouTube that led me to the video of the end adlibs once more. I didn't post it because Mariah is lipping the ending and it's not fair as a comparison because Mariah's OHN is the definitive version. It is perfection in every syllable. The "ooh yeah" on the ad libs is the most melty voice that made me fall in love with Mariah. I'm glad someone is feeling Christmas Mariah with me because...
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 00:46)
Re: A lengthy meditation on the album (86,306) (86,328) by RibbonB from USA
Very interesting long take on Ms. Carey. I can agree with some of it. But one of her great strengths is her versatility, and chameleon like qualities. Yet she still puts her signature, her mark on whatever she does. Prince was an ever changing, conflicted artist. Many of the best are. She definitely doesn't want to be stagnant. So called big words aside, her lyrical content has seemed strained, maybe a reflection of her state of mind, even as she says she's in a good space. She's being cautiously careless, which in itself is conflicted. But life is rarely concrete or cut from stone. 8th Grade is a minimalist poetic gem, with no clear details, she transports me at least to possibilities. Her voice shows subtle passion and the r and b groove is just enough. This song should be in radio now.
(Wednesday 21 November 2018; 00:13)

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