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Re: Support (64,172) Andrew (64,182) by Anonymous from You really did nail it with that response. (Monday 11 July 2016; 15:08)

Re: Mariah is not a politician - Lucia (64,181) by Anonymous from Good perspective, thanks for sharing your point of view. (Monday 11 July 2016; 15:07)

Re: Lambs are a support system or not? (64,171) (64,180) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter You think that I, or other people voicing concerns, will be fans by turning a blind eye and not trying to get Mariah's attention towards what we are seeing from the outside? How will it then make us any different from the "yes men" we keep complaining about in her team? A support system does not just say yes and support everything, especially if it it self destructive. A support system is one that will have your back but will tell you their views and opinions. No one here is trying to drag Mariah or insult her. They are just raising their concerns about how Mariah's current actions are affecting her brand and image. If they didn't care, they would just let her destroy her legacy. Mariah should be happy that her fans care about her and her well being, they are not just about superficial things. (Monday 11 July 2016; 15:06)

Re: Lambs are a support system or not? (64,179) by Anonymous from Great response. (Monday 11 July 2016; 15:06)

Re: Lambs are a support system or not? (64,171) (64,178) by darrian liu from taiwan I think we all just wanted her to take the right direction so that she's on top again. I'm one of the newer fans (became a fan in 2013) and I really want her to be on top again. It's one thing to know about how she used to slay the shit out of the game and another to really live in the years when she is slaying the game. I want people to take her seriously again and really give her another shot. At least, I want her legacy to be preserved. Reality TV and all those reality TV behaviour won't help her in damage control, Justin Bieber did not come back with that blockbuster "Purpose" with reality TV. Mariah did not comeback in 2005 with TEOM with all those ratchetness of reality TV. (Monday 11 July 2016; 15:01)

Re: Ariana sounding like Mimi again (64,166) (64,177) by darrian liu from taiwan Ariana doesn't sound like Mariah there. (Monday 11 July 2016; 14:39)

Re: Lambs are a support system or not? (64,171) (64,176) by THE TRUTH from USA Sorry Sheila but it is Mariah posting the selfies and parading about in her underwear and boozing it on up in front of the paparazzi. Fans are people too and entitled to their feelings and opinions. Celebrity is a double edged sword and we all have to pay the Piper for the choices we make. Mariah because of her talent has benifited greatly by and from the grace and love of her once millions of fans but if her antics sadden or outrage those same fans, there is no reason why they should be silent. (Monday 11 July 2016; 14:12)

Re: Mariah is not a politician - Mirage (64,165) (64,175) by Licia from USA I tried to keep quiet on this subject for as long as I could. No she's not a politician and no she's not obligated to say anything, but it would just be nice to see her or her team post something to show some kind of support for what's going on. There's nothing political in saying something encouraging to all that have been affected by the recent events. I agree nothing that she says will fix what has happened, but I just want to know that she cares and is aware. It won't make or break me if she chooses to continue to act oblivious to what is going on, but as I said before it would just be nice for her to acknowledge it. She never used to ignore such events before and I understand why some fans feel the way they feel. (Monday 11 July 2016; 14:07)

Love Mariah unconditionally (64,174) by Shirley from United States Guys I know Mariah case been acting different, but do you remember when she had a breakdown, she always said it was the love from her fans that got her through it all, how do you think she feels that even us "lambs" have become critics? To love unconditionally means, not bash her for her wrong doings or question her, can we try to keep it positive and just love Mimi for who she is? I personally don't mind the way she dresses, because she looks amazing wearing those adventurous outfits, and if she drinks, it's a lot of stress preforming so a drink or two helps, I drink when I'm nervous and it does wonders, but we all know that so we should try to think in her shoes... or heels lol, plus she is dieting and instead of cheating with food she prefers a drink. As for her children, I grew up moving around a lot and with lots of different people all the time and it actually made me feel more secure, and about Mariah not posting about all that has been going on with the shootings, we don't know if she contributed because she is a Christian and in the Bible it says "don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing" which means "don't tell the world know if you're doing something good because the world will give you glory if you do it in secret God will give you glory". Mariah knows what she is doing and all we can do is love and support her, God forbid anything happens to her and we feel guilty for not being there when she needed us, I might get jumped for this one but I just wanted to voice my opinion. Webmaster I hope this was readable. (Monday 11 July 2016; 13:57)

Re: Lambs are a support system or not? (64,171) (64,173) by Licia from USA What exactly are we supposed to be supporting right now? Her sea vacation? Her bra less photos? Her and her traveling circus? She's not really doing anything worth supporting at the moment. (Monday 11 July 2016; 13:52)

Support (64,172) by Andrew from UK What support is depends very much on an individual's own perspective. That an increasing number of people now accept that serious damage is being done on so many levels, and are now being vocal about it, is absolutely a *good* thing in my eyes because, hopefully, MC will, at some point, wake up to herself before walking over that there cliff and rescue what is left of the goodwill she once received. The fact that you criticise those who are admitting the reality of the situation and voicing their genuine concerns is pretty reprehensible to me. Where is this frustration of yours when Mariah is behaving like a slutty, drunk cougar in public? At the very least it is perfectly permissible to expect professionalism from your idol, to expect a developing maturity from your idol as you yourself mature and to expect to not have to tolerate your idol's slow descent into becoming a cheap imitation of their former self whose sole focus is evidently cheap tv-movie hell, bland endorsements, hideous Shopping Channel tat, and other amateurish nonsense of similar ilk. This kind of focus for someone of Mariah's stature suggests a recognition of declining sales but no attempt to do anything about it, save for the decline in personal income. Thus, a desire to make as much money as possible by any means possible, perhaps. How much does one person need? If your soul has a price you're in trouble. Nick Jonas laughing about Mariah selling cheap tat on television, repeating the word "moment" like a sex-line operator is so tragic Tommy Mottola must have it on repeat at cocktail parties. I would've preferred Mariah to have proved me wrong but I'm happy more and more fans are starting to sit up and complain. Put simply, and probably unequivocally, fans deserve a better type of delivery than the one they're getting here. Mariah has made a fortune off of her fans. It's a quid pro quo relationship, not a one-way street. When her next album tanks because the music is irrelevant and the public don't want to be associated with liking her for fear of personal ridicule, don't cry about it. You supported it. (Monday 11 July 2016; 13:44)

Lambs are a support system or not? (64,171) by Sheila from United States As per usual the board was positive about [...] and the efforts she put forth, now you [censored] lambs are tearing her down again. How about this? You look in the mirror at yourself and see if you [sic] perfect? Did that work? I'm really starting to believe that the lambs are [censored] fans, nothing the woman does will ever make you happy. Look for the good in her lyrics and music and stay out [sic] her personal life. To the gay fans, why are you worried about her "nails"? Who cares? [censored] (Monday 11 July 2016; 11:53)

Change (64,169) by Musti from UK How sad that so many of us are emerging with the same emotions and the same frustrations. I wish there was something we could do. I think none of us would come here complaining if we didn't truly believe she's still got it in her and that she could still come out on top. I don't think anyone from her team comes here to check the pulse. We've been complaining about the image for weeks, and yet she still poses with Brett in a mini with her legs spread open. I still believe that ridding herself of some of the dinosaurs in her team was a good idea, but the replacements aren't doing her any good either. I'm tempted to think that MW's push-back is a matter of rescheduling to coincide with an upcoming single release. But not even the hottest song/production will save her career if she doesn't drop the self-obsession and the vulgar sexiness. To those who have said Mariah is not a politician, I'll take social awareness or simply anything else over what is being posted on her social media, any day. Some things have got to change. (Monday 11 July 2016; 11:35)

Re: Ariana sounding like Mimi again (64,166) (64,168) by Musti from UK Thanks for sharing that. She can't seem to let Mariah go. But I must say it's a nice song. She sounds far more original here than The Way, Only 1 or many of her other songs. (Monday 11 July 2016; 11:09)

Never thought I'd say this Marissa (64,167) by Anonymous from Well said. (Monday 11 July 2016; 8:49)

Ariana sounding like Mimi again (64,166) by radhames from Curacao I just found this on YouTube. (Monday 11 July 2016; 8:30)

Re: Mariah is not a politician - Mirage (64,157) (64,165) by Mirage from Unicornatopia Jade, I don't read all messages on here, so I did not choose to not read yours deliberately. My original message was in response to the large amount of posts directed at Mariah. Now, don't get me wrong, I would like if Mariah responded to recent atrocities, and actually helped to do something about them, but I don't believe she has to, nor do I think it's fair for people to expect her to. I mean, the POTUS has made repeated statements after mass shootings, race hate crimes etc, but all he has done is repeat the same rhetoric. He has not done a thing. Words are sometimes just words if they are words alone and not acted upon. (Monday 11 July 2016; 8:06)

When is enough really enough? (64,164) by Edward from USA I hate to say this, but it seems to be that either Mariah doesn't care or she's completely clueless about how she's perceived even by most of her remaining fans. She might be enjoying her diva act, but at the same time she's pushing away the few fans she has left. There was a time I was proud to say I was a fan, that was when her reputation was based mostly on her voice and not so much on her inflated boobs, when besides her music I also liked Mariah the person too. When she was sexy, a la Butterfly era, she was flawless, it didn't seem forced at all. She was eloquent and more focused on her music and more connected to her fans. When there was veil of mystery around her image, a veil that made her interesting and anticipated. Now I see this person I don't even recognize, a person who poses with a fake smile in most pics she's in. Mariah behaved more mature and centered when she was 20 than now that she's 46, something that doesn't make sense to me. Her lyrics were deeper. Daydream is an album a 46-year Mariah could put out without people thinking is immature for her age. It is as if everything in her life is happening backwards. I don't like to be associated with her publicly anymore. As a man, saying you're a fan nowadays put you in one of two boxes: either you're gay or there's something wrong with you. I just hope she realizes she needs to do something before she gets a rude awakening when her next album drops and she sees herself selling less that what it would take for her to keep a record deal. I'll always support her by buying her music, and going to concerts whenever possible, but that's about it. It's so weird how some fans want other fans to settle for less when the woman got us used to quality music for such a long time. Now the normal for a hardcore fan to be happy with is some mutation called "Infinity" and a terrible mess-remix in which she threw away an opportunity to capitalize on Justin Bieber new-found popularity. "Infinity", a song she dares to put along her 18 #1's hits. When a fan makes a better version of a song Mariah has created, there's something terribly wrong with her new formula. Just venting. (Monday 11 July 2016; 5:33)

Stella's influence (64,163) by Mara from United States It's amazing how much influence she has been having on MC. It's quite sad we never see anyone form MC's past or family of her own other than Shawn at one of her shows. Mariah has no problem with Stella's father Vlad around or her mother. It really does seem like Stella is working her way to get the general public to get to know her family in a reality show type of way. Between Miska and that blank stare of a smile in every picture to her dancing father on Twitter videos. They are all enjoying Mariah's stardom. I noticed Mariah is almost emulating Stella's style now too. From the similar hair style (at the 1 Oak party) to the outfits even to the very talon like nails. Mariah always had beautiful nails and now they are like Stella's, shaped long with a point. One question: Stella always mentions love and light at the end of a lot of her posts. Is Stella a Scientologist? There is never a mention of God anymore on Mariah's end and I'm wondering if she is influencing her on that end too. (Monday 11 July 2016; 4:55)

Maybe Morgan was on to something (64,162) by Natalia from Italy When the report came out about Mariah's brother Morgan, that said, she was on the verge of a breakdown, or even death, I was shocked and offended. Now that doesn't seem as far from the truth anymore. I wouldn't go as far as to say she is close to death, because I don't believe that, but, she does seem to be a little more closer to "the edge". Some have said that she has always been this way, but I respectfully disagree. (Monday 11 July 2016; 2:15)

Re: Never thought I'd say this... Ribbon (64,159) (64,161) by RibbonB from USA I thought I sent a separate response to you Jade, but that response was to Marissa, but it also applies to you. I appreciate what you both had to say on the subject. The whole thing is a lot, ypu know? We are going into tough times that may get tougher with this coming election, so we better brace ourselves. But I'm not looking to MC to direct the ship so to speak. Lol. (Monday 11 July 2016; 2:06)

Re: Mariah's World (64,146) (64,160) by THE TRUTH from USA You forgot about Louise McNally who was with her since the Motolla days. How about the double digit list of ex managers too? Need I mention friends? Even her brother who launched her career lives in Italy and I haven't seen one picture of them together. For that matter, did she fire her mom or did she quit too? (Monday 11 July 2016; 0:32)

Re: Never thought I'd say this... Ribbon (64,159) by Anonymous from Thanks Ribbon for responding to my post in a mature way. It is a sensitive subject and I do appreciate different perspectives. In regards to assumptions clearly I've read it wrong. But whether Mariah said something I agreed with or not, again I would still challenge it if warranted. I rarely post but when I do it's because I strongly believe in it. Mariah has made her choice for a reason, right now I just don't get it. (Monday 11 July 2016; 0:28)

Re: Mariah's World (64,154) (64,158) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I usually scoff at conspiracy theories but I have to say, the way Mariah's team is taking her, it sure looks like they are trying to tear down her legendary status and smear her legacy. The cheap stunts, the cursing, the weird "leaked" privates photos (that looks so staged), the stunt with the MC-Brian Tanaka affair (it was believable at first but then they started pushing it down everyone's throat by having them grind all over the place), getting a reality show, something Mariah has always scoffed at. Calling it a docu-series won't change much, it is what it is. If it was aired on HBO, I'd think otherwise, but it's being aired on E Network and produced by the same people that is involved with the Kardashians, plus the wanna be Kardashians (Bulochnikovs). Mariah showing up half naked to places without a reason seemingly high as a kite. The snap chat videos (which should have been private) of her completely out of it, grinding over men. Someone said before that Mariah always drank and partied but the thing is it was always private. What made Mariah so interesting and mysterious was that we never really knew much about what went on once she got off stage. Her private life was pretty private. We didn't even know about the problem in her married life with Nick until they announced that they have been separated for months. But nowadays Mariah is overexposed, her private life is out there for everyone to see whether they want to or not. It's almost like she is challenging people to make fun of her. She is definitely not in good hands. Her PR was still better (Morgan's story being nipped at the bud) when Chris Chambers was involved, ever since they left, Stella has been her manager, PR, stylist, life coach and everything. All we got from her was ratchet behavior. People hate on RaeRae and call her a leech, but really RaeRae had no control over Mariah's career (except for that awful choreography) but at least she knew Mariah well. Where is she? Why is everyone who knew Mariah out of the picture? I don't believe Michael Richardson was bad either. Where did he go? Mariah is stranded alone in Bulochnikov land and company does influence you. Just saying, I don't trust this family. (Monday 11 July 2016; 0:28)

Re: Mariah is not a politician - Mirage (64,157) by Anonymous from Choose to ignore my post(s) that's your choice. Clearly I've touched a nerve. I'm ok with stating my opinions and hearing others. No sarcasm just being honest with my thoughts. (Monday 11 July 2016; 0:20)

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