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this_is_qhm (55,157)
by NHYTG from nyc
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I do agree with you but look at Madonna's and Janet's latest singles, Madonna's or Jennifer Lopez' latest abums or Whitney's latest live album. Same stories, only marginal success. I don't expect huge sales for Janet's forthcoming album either. Seems like when an artist gets older their releases seem to be just interesting for their fanbase. So be it. I don't mind Mariah not being as successful as she once was. Sales of MIAMTEC may have been poor but it's one of my favorite Mariah albums anyway. As long as she is not making desperate moves (thinking of the video's for Booty or Bitch I'm Madonna) to gain some success it's fine with me.
(Thursday 9 July 2015; 12:37)
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All that promotion (55,156)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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So Infinity has joined the rest of all the singles post-#Beautiful that underperformed. Every release, we seem to always find ourselves suggesting that Mariah should do this or do that like how this artist did this and it worked, blah blah blah. I'm guilty of it. Most of us are. Maybe that's just us wanting her to succeed as much as possible. But we also often forget that the thing about promotion is that it's not a one-size-fits-all thing. Just like everything in the music industry nowadays, it's a case-to-case-basis thing, and a significant bulk of it depends on luck and timing. Sometimes it's hard to be a Mariah fan. I try to be positive, but there certainly are moments when I get frustrated because Mariah deserves to be on top and she isn't. Every time I listen to MIAMTEC, I hear a masterpiece that has sadly fallen mostly on deaf ears. Sorry, did not mean to be a downer. It's just sad when great artists don't get the credit and respect they deserve.
(Thursday 9 July 2015; 11:27)
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Vegas concert tonight (55,155)
by Leigh from USA
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Just got back to my room, and I must say I expected a little more. Naw just messing with you. It was awesome. She started a little edgy and admittedly her voice did crack one teeny time early on, but she really killed it otherwise. The whistlenotes were right on and didn't sound labored, especially when she can hold the last one so long at the end. But it was her lower register that floored me. She really used it well tonight.
(Thursday 9 July 2015; 7:43)
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The next album (55,154)
by Amber C from USA
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The way Mariah put it Me I Am Mariah was null. Lol. It's basically Glitter number two. Half of Memoirs and the whole of Chanteuse were dedicated to Nick. She is probably going to run away from the sounds of those albums. Lol. I want new music and hopefully a stronger vocal so that Mariah can perform new music live again. It's about time. 
(Thursday 9 July 2015; 4:48)
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Ex lamb (55,153)
by Ty from USA
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I asked my friend why he was no longer a Mariah fan. He was a diehard. He really had a lot to say, he said he hated infinity because they hyped it up and the song was horrible, videos were late, her live performances are 50-50 and he paid good money for shows and she lipped portions or high notes and she is basically destroying her legacy trying to be 12. He has been so disappointed in her the last 5 years and her ignoring the last cd was the final blow, [...] and [...] being ignored was his final straw. He finished by saying she is worth millions but out of shape. Wearing dresses where she looks 3 months pregnant. I wonder how many other lambs feel like him.
(Thursday 9 July 2015; 3:56)
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Mariah snaps back at Wendy? (55,152)
by Ardis Logic from Earth
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MC posted a picture of this quote on her Facebook page that says "When you are a giraffe and you receive criticism from turtles, they are reporting the view from the level they are on. - Bishop T.D. Jakes." Ouch. Ha ha. Good one MC. 
(Thursday 9 July 2015; 2:45)
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"Sky's-the-limit wedding"? (55,151)
by Ardis Logic from Earth
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Oh my. Looks like MC is going to be married again, as soon as she get divorced from Nick. Talk about moving on in a big way. Wow. Just shocking. If this is all true I wish them both the best in love and happiness.
(Thursday 9 July 2015; 2:29)
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Money / Amber C (55,150)
by Tevin from USA
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Yes I was talking about the song [...]. My comment was just edited though.
(Thursday 9 July 2015; 1:42)
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Heartbreaker / Mimi L and Matty (55,149)
by Musti from UK
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I love the remix with Missy and Da Brat. That loop of Ain't No Fun is absolutely timeless. She sings it like a ballad. Her hottest song in my opinion. I like the Oprah performance as well. It's cute.
(Thursday 9 July 2015; 1:22)
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These songs are why Mariah is the best / James Packer songwriting influence (55,148)
by Bobby A from United States
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1. There's Got To Be A Way 2. Til The End Of Time 3. The Wind 4. Hero 5. Music Box 6. Anytime You Need A Friend 7. One Sweet Day 8. I Am Free 9. Looking In 10. Butterfly 11. Fourth Of July 12. Outside 13. Close My Eyes 14. Can't Take That Away From Me 15. Rainbow 16. Vulnerability 17. Petals 18. Love Will Lead The Way 19. Twister 20. Saving Grace 21. Sunflowers For Alford Roy 22. Fly Like A Bird 23. Mine Again 24. I Wish You Well 25. Languishing 26. Cry 27. Camouflage 28. Heavenly (No Ways Tired/Can't Give Up Now) 30. Crybaby 31. Alone In Love 32. Sent From Up Above Anybody who questions her songwriting ability should listen to these songs. For Mariah's next album lambs, we are going to get some of Mariah's best songwriting all because of James Packer. I believe we are going to get that next Daydream album we have been waiting for. Mark my words.
(Thursday 9 July 2015; 0:59)
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Emotions vs. The Wind (55,147)
by nikki from usa
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Lol. Originally, I went over a 1500 character tangent on the Emotions album before deciding to shorten it way up. Too much cutting and pasting sentences and didn't bother to re-read before posting. Yes, The Wind was meant to be an eventual single, not the first. You're So Cold was supposed to lead. True. It was supposed to say The Wind was actually the first album title before Emotions and was supposed to be a single according, but I thought that sounded weird, unclear, and tried to re-word it to no avail. The article from a long ass time ago mentioned releasing The Wind as a single to show Mariah's versatility and maturity as an artist. I don't know why they never did release You're So Cold or The Wind. I think YSC would've made a better follow up to Can't Let Go. Also, as great of a vocal as If It's Over is I think The Wind would've carried more impact. The vocals and content were simply haunting. I'll stop the tangent here because I could go on and on about this album forever.
(Thursday 9 July 2015; 0:41)
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Re: snubs by Nikki (55,146)
by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA
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Nikki I completely agree with you 100 percent. I have said the same before here and I am happy someone agrees with me. The [...] and the [...] suck. Mariah is the trailblazer for this generation. These kids buying [...] and [...] music should understand Mariah Carey is the blueprint for a pop career. R&B/Rap music would suck now if pop never existed. It sucks she receives so much criticism for being authentic. I always believed the public hates her because they cant shake her and that is why I love Mariah Carey. She cares to win [...] but her impact carries more weight than to win. She knows it too.
(Thursday 9 July 2015; 0:17)
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Mimi L and Heatbreaker (55,145)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I 150% agree with you, Heartbreaker is such an enduring song that never sounds dated no matter what the current pop-music trend is. It's absolutely in my top 3 of her #18's as well. I love it because I still hear "Heartbreaker" and "Fantasy" every weekend at the most popular clubs here in VanCity (straight and gay bars), and both song still pack the dance floor inspiring Mariah-waving-hand-singing across the club. The mash-up of the two versions in Vegas gave me life.
(Thursday 9 July 2015; 0:11)
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Improvise (55,144)
by nikki from usa
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Sometimes, you just can't hit those notes and have to improvise on the spot. Apparently, you really can make up for a lack of notes by just looking happy to be there.
(Wednesday 8 July 2015; 23:48)
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Heartbreaker (55,143)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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This song does not get old. It's definitely in my top 3 of her 18 #1's. This song is just so fun and fresh and I must not be the only one who busts a move with the chorus, especially the last one and also lip sync to the whistle (HB's whistle is my #1 favorite, the second is LTT's whistle from the live versions where it's more prominent compared to the original). I just love this, sometimes I will hear this so much that I will try to take a break from it and then after a while when I hear it again, it just gives me the same feeling I got when I first listened to it. The video is definitely one of my favorites. The remix is divine, I love how she goes from the fun-flirty and bubbly voice for the original (matching the video with the pink crochet top and cute hair) to the slowed down sultry and sexy voice she uses for the remix. I love the usual Heartbreaker and HB remix medley she does in her shows. I also really love the Junior's remix and it just shows how great she is with remixes. I love the layering of "if you should ever be lonely with gimme your love". The chorus of the Junior's remix is I think kinda haunting and I love how she goes "don't go and break my heart, no no why why did you have to run your game on me". I know I started almost all the sentences with "I love" but I really do love this song. I wish she'd sing this more in her TV appearances now (not just her personal concerts) because this song still has the potential to capture the younger audiences).
(Wednesday 8 July 2015; 23:44)
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Nikki / "Emotions" (55,142)
by Billy from Greece
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Nikki, you're right, the second album was at some point almost called "The Wind" but the actual track was never intended to be the first single (on the basis of the research I've done over the last couple of decades). The original first single was to be "You're So Cold".
(Wednesday 8 July 2015; 23:42)
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Nikki (55,141)
by Bill from the UK
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I think the first planned single from Emotions was in fact "You're So Cold", at least according to Mariah's official biography and numerous other sources. You are correct though in that the album was originally titled The Wind, which I think would have been cool as Mariah was named after the song "They Call the Wind Mariah". Not sure why Emotions was picked as the album title, perhaps after the success of the song, or indeed because the themes of the songs on the album themselves cover a range of emotions across their subject matter. Love, gladness, sadness, faith, anger, mourning etc.
(Wednesday 8 July 2015; 23:40)
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Re: snubs (55,140)
by nikki from usa
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I believe that the Grammys began a backlash against Mariah after she came out with hip-pop. I think what few people acknowledge is how much music was segregated in the 90's and whether folks like to admit it or not Mariah had a lot to do with breaking those barriers down. When MC came out with ODB on Fantasy it was groundbreaking and unheard of. MC alluded to "I got into a lot of trouble for that" in more than one interview and talked about how the "powers that be" were pissed. I don't believe she was simply referring to just Mottola there. Rap was the worst selling genre and not taken seriously by music higher ups as a legitimate genre of music. She brought that to the pop industry and certain people were pissed, even more so after she popularized it and turned it into a staple. The '96 Grammys actually featured her in their commercials for presenting an award and singing live on stage that year to get people to watch. She was up for 6 and won none. In '05 when she left her competition who were lucky to go double platinum in the dust with so many sales and hit singles the Grammys were forced to acknowledge her. You can tell it's begrudgingly because they wouldn't allow her to accept her awards on stage or live during the show. If MC wasn't so over the top successful that year they would've swept her under the rug.
(Wednesday 8 July 2015; 23:33)
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Nikki (55,137)
by B from USA
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Every article that I've read states that You're So Cold was going to be the lead single and was switched to Emotions at the last minute.
(Wednesday 8 July 2015; 23:31)
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Since you asked: Alexis (55,136)
by nikki from usa
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The Wind was actually supposed to be the first single and album title for Emotions according to an article I read in the 90's. Mottola liked Emotions better and thought it was a hit track so both were switched to that. The Wind is so unconventional as pop music goes, it would have been interesting to see how the public responded to it. I concur with Mimi about Rainbow. Mariah saw a double rainbow. According to Mariah, Heartbreaker was originally intended for Glitter. Rainbow wasn't supposed to happen. She thought HB was such a fresh and "now" track she felt she needed to get it out right then. She threw the album together in 3 months.
(Wednesday 8 July 2015; 23:12)
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Bill (55,135)
by B from USA
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I love you more jets on holidays and chefs with hollandaise.
(Wednesday 8 July 2015; 23:10)
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B (55,134)
by Bill from the UK
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Actually, the line "and I dream the impossible dream when you and I are alone" from Money is more likely to be a reference to the very well known song "The Impossible Dream" made famous by Andy Williams. Lyrically, it doesn't work in the same context for it to be a reference to the song "The Impossible" from Memoirs, and Mariah has never said it is a reference to that song, so I'm not sure where you got that from. "The Impossible Dream" is a very uplifting song about fighting for what you believe in, and given the context of Money being about love being stronger than material items, it makes more sense that's she is singing about her dreaming that her and Nick are together fighting for what they believe in and fighting together against their enemies etc.
(Wednesday 8 July 2015; 21:44)
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Giovanni (55,133)
by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA
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Thank you for the positive shout out. I don't comment much but I do come to this forum everyday and observe commentary. I am pleased by how chill it's been on here lately. I am pleased the webmaster is helping to keep it chill and he has done a great job keeping this website a fan site. On a side note I am pleased to say Mariah Carey's residency is selling out pretty darn fast for this month. Today's show is sold out and the rest are 50%-90% sold out. I don't like how Sundays' sales have been lately. These shows are selling better than her May shows. I remember tickets still being available for the first May show. This first show in July there are zero tickets available.
(Wednesday 8 July 2015; 19:30)
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Money (55,132)
by B from USA
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Money references The Impossible from Memoirs which was Mariah's song to Nick. It is not about Packer and the sequence doesn't mean a thing. Suggesting Mariah was having an affair with Packer is absurd.
(Wednesday 8 July 2015; 18:24)
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Alexis Morell Carrington Colby Dexter Rowan (55,131)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Apart from the "use of the different textures of her voice and different sounds" explanation she also said that after she finished the album she was going somewhere and she looked up in the sky and there was a double rainbow in the sky so she took it as a sign.
(Wednesday 8 July 2015; 17:12)
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