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Ranking Mariah Carey albums vocally (94,462)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Fly Like A Lamb ranked Mariah's albums on YouTube vocally as below, stating: "Albums with electronic assistance are not particularly high on the list." Ouch. Never seen a dedicated lamb declare something like that so brazenly before.
15. Caution 14. E=MC2 13. Merry Christmas II You 12. Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel 11. Me. I Am Mariah. The Elusive Chanteuse 10. Charmbracelet 9. Rainbow 8. The Emancipation of Mimi 7. Mariah Carey 6. Glitter 5. Butterfly 4. Emotions 3. Daydream 2. Music Box 1. Merry Christmas
Not sure I disagree with the list much at all. Except for maybe moving Mariah Carey further down. The vocals on it are good, but the voice hasn't quite yet reached a fully relaxed tone and makes me on edge. But this list is good.
"Electronic assistance" lol ouch, baby.
(Thursday 25 June 2020; 13:37)
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Vocal freedom (94,461)
by Lafa from Sweden
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I caught vocal freedom in the song Butterfly (Classic Bossa Nova) first time when I was 13 years old. Some people don't get what that is though, they have "gone out", their star has ceased to shine. Vocal freedom. Towards an angel forever in flight to heaven. I slowed down the tempo of the song to album tempo and then FM-enhanced it for another kind of sound. [Webmaster: You already posted this two months ago.]
(Thursday 25 June 2020; 09:56)
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With You (94,460)
by Malcolm from Asia
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This here is 100% timeless. But I hope on the next songs she'll release with big name producers she'll decline putting the producer tag and just make some arrangements. Beyonce can do that so I hope Mariah too. That tag can be used in upbeat songs but it's kinda annoying with slow jams like With You.
(Wednesday 24 June 2020; 16:48)
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Re: Great documentary (94,405) (94,459)
by Pau from Mexico
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Video unavailable. The uploader has not made this video available in your country. Anyone has the same problem?
(Wednesday 24 June 2020; 08:31)
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Re: Caution album (94,456) (94,458)
by RibbonB from USA
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We're off that tired topic. I'm tryna discuss 8:46 and you want to re heat old tea, that's not tea, because Mimi makes murky her own waters with reality show revisions and Stellar's staged situations. Now that's why Caution flopped, that's tea.
(Wednesday 24 June 2020; 03:39)
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Re: Caution album (94,456) (94,457)
by Bill from the UK
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Haha it wasn't me although I wish it was. Though I do love a list as we all know.
(Wednesday 24 June 2020; 00:47)
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Re: Caution album (94,453) (94,456)
by Bobby A from United States
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Oh, okay. But didn't Edward or Bill give the whole Caution/Bruan/Stella synopsis song by song last year? Where are you Edward or Bill? I need some help.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 22:18)
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Re: Superlatives (94,452) (94,455)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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There we go.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 21:47)
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Re: Great documentary (94,451) (94,454)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Lovely. The "I'm wrong and I lost but I'm better than this." Should be followed with immediate response to something else to show you just don't care.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 21:47)
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Re: Caution album (94,448) (94,453)
by RibbonB from USA
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I meant Licia on my post, not Lucia.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 20:37)
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Re: Superlatives (94,433) (94,452)
by Bill from the UK
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I love this. I would have Daydream as Best Dressed though, her outfits were great during that era. She always looked like the flotus.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 19:35)
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Re: Great documentary (94,450) (94,451)
by Bill from the UK
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TLDR. I really have better things to do. You win I lose.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 19:31)
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Re: Great documentary (94,449) (94,450)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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"I'll accept the possibility Mariah was uncomfortable if you can accept the possibility that she wasn't."
I am currently lying in a park sunbathing. As I look across the luscious green grass I see children running and playing each other in the glorious sunshine, smiling, laughing, giggling. Now I could accept the possibility that they are not happy, that they are visibly displaying emotions that they are not feeling. I cannot read their minds, as I am equally unable to read Mariah's mind on that stage at the Academy Awards over twenty years ago. But, on the balance of probabilities, given the simple truths on show, I think it reasonably and objectively safe to say that they are enjoying themselves. As it is possibly safe to say Mariah was more uncomfortable than not.
"And I really have no feelings either way. I'm just calling out nonsense and fabrications from delusional fans."
Before you "call people out" (I dislike this turn of phrase) pay close attention to detail lest you look foolish. As an example, contradicting Terna who (quite rightly) pointed out that Whitney was singing Mariah's part in places was a mistake.
Oh, William, wilt thou ever love me, again?
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 17:23)
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Re: Great documentary (94,445) (94,449)
by Bill from the UK
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I'll accept the possibility Mariah was uncomfortable if you can accept the possibility that she wasn't.
And I really have no feelings either way. I'm just calling out nonsense and fabrications from delusional fans.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 16:26)
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Re: Caution album (94,438) (94,448)
by RibbonB from USA
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Cool. Robert Anthony, did you watch 8:46 by Dave Chappell? Mesmerizing. We gotta shake Lucia Same to get her take on it too. If you haven't seen it, it's on YouTube.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 16:15)
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Re: With You (94,439) (94,447)
by PresidentJesus from Germany
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It's definitely a great track, kind of timeless even and yes, sensual. Too bad fans came to expect the next #1 yet again and were disappointed when it was neither the big 90s ballad nor the pop banger we always seem to long for.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 16:12)
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Re: Superlatives (94,433) (94,446)
by RibbonB from USA
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Cute list. 
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 15:33)
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Re: Great documentary (94,443) (94,445)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Your humour washes over me, and your sugar never ever was that sweet. Hah.
A comical assertion about Mariah seeing Whitney off her nut about to go on stage and thinking "for [censored] sake" does not a genuine theory make.
However, Whitney was a severe drug addict and has admitted to regularly going on stage off her nut. It is extremely arguable and beyond plausible that that is what happened here due to her demeanour, lack of control and disrespect for her dueting partner. The vocal is unpleasantly aggressive and Mariah clearly looks uncomfortable. Now, let us examine. Shall we?
Is Mariah uncomfortable with her hair, do you think? Is she uncomfortable with the stage lighting, maybe? Has she seen into the future and has predicted Joan Rivers calling her fat, perhaps? Is she upset with who won best animated short that year having studied up on the nominees? Or is it possible - just a smidgen possible - that Mariah is uncomfortable with the woman awkwardly standing next to her barking into the microphone and singing the song in an unpredictable way making it sound like a hot mess?
Your denial of things which appear evident because it hurts your feels and your skewing of the argument into something it is not is typical of some of the delulons on here. Come now, William. You're better than this.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 14:35)
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Re: With You (94,439) (94,444)
by ktktkt from Philippines
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I agree. Now I understand what "ahead of its time" means. Like most of MC's underrated songs.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 13:37)
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Re: Great documentary (94,442) (94,443)
by Bill from the UK
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Whitney giving a sub par performance does not your point make. No evidence presented other than a fan theory, that you often call others out for. Come on Andrew.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 13:08)
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Re: Great documentary (94,441) (94,442)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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"Your only proof of this is a fantasy about what happened backstage and a look on Mariah's face that can (clearly, as we both see it differently) be interpreted in either way. So no."
I said clearly it was conjecture. I was trying to ascertain what was going on. It is evident to many people that Whitney was not behaving properly and the resultant performance was a hot mess with Whitney not singing the song as expected and Mariah clearly looking uncomfortable.
So no to you. That's a no no. Parlez-vous français? I can say it on Espagnol. I said nooooooo.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 11:13)
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Re: Great documentary (94,437) (94,441)
by Bill from the UK
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Your only proof of this is a fantasy about what happened backstage and a look on Mariah's face that can (clearly, as we both see it differently) be interpreted in either way. So no.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 10:23)
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Re: Nick saga (94,412) (94,440)
by Nikki from usa
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Actually, their prenup guaranteed Nick a cool 10 million in case of a divorce. He's marrying someone in a much higher tax bracket than himself and marrying her would change his lifestyle. By getting him to agree to a settlement before the marriage would prevent him from demanding half in a divorce. The stipulation was they'd keep their own stuff, liquidate and divide up the assets they accrued during marriage, and return each other's gifts.
In the actual divorce, Nick promised to put X amount of dollars into a college fund for the kids while Mariah agreed to pay for all travel and accommodations for Nick and his mom to be present at all holidays plus birthday parties for the twins. That's why there's no spousal or child support. They both seem to be parenting well and taking good care of the twins otherwise.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 09:22)
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With You (94,439)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Sounds like Mariah recorded a new version of With You in her home. I like it. It sounds like a live version. But the original cannot be beaten.
The original With You has slowly become one of my favourite Mariah Carey songs of all time. It is one of the most sensual songs I have ever heard, at once both exciting and calming. Truly I believe in ten years when people lol back to Caution, With You will be declared a missed masterpiece.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 03:30)
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Re: Caution album (94,432) (94,438)
by Bobby A from United States
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I guess I am going to have to agree with you, Ribbon. I like your straightfoward contribution to the board. You keep us all grounded to the real facts and not speculation.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 01:56)
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