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Re: For the life of me (86,838) (86,847)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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I actually like it when you get a little mushy. It's rare, so we'll take what we get since we all know you'll have your pitchforks out come your next post.
I for one love Caution - I think it's the perfect album for 2018 Mariah and even more impressive considering her age and her current status in today's industry. And like you said, industry respect is key. Physical sales in the age of steaming is practically irrelevant, and Mariah has had that and much more in the past anyway, so when everything is said and done - no matter how much she is considered a has been and a flop, it's the respect that will stay at the end of the day. Considering the extreme brand tarnishing that we all had to sit through in recent years, who would have known that she could turn things around so quickly? I mean who else does this sort of redemption arc happen to?
And I feel that you like Caution the least - for now (all caps). I mean look at you - I recall you went from hating the initial snippet of GTFO, then liking the song. Same with With You. You didn't like The Distance, but then you learned to like and even praise the first half of Caution. Mariah sneaks up on you like that and she's probably the only artist who can. Anything can happen at this point.
(Tuesday 4 December 2018; 11:07)
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Mariah Carey revered (86,846)
by DivergentIntel from United States of America
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Is it just me or am I the only one who thinks that Mariah is the girl everyone loves to hate, and/or also the girl everyone hates to love. I feel like this sums up her existence and being since her career debut.
(Tuesday 4 December 2018; 09:05)
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Mariah Carey shelved projects (86,845)
by DivergentIntel from United States of America
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Hey has anyone ever wondered if Mariah Carey was going to release some sort of album in 1996? According to reports that exist out there, Mariah Carey was considered a contender for the lead role in Evita. Mariah Carey would have been perfect for that role and possibly could have won an Oscar for it. Given her situation at the time a la Tommy Mottola and her personality, and had she been given more actual acting roles, I think she would have knocked it out of the ballpark. She could have won an Oscar or a Tony back in 1996, 1997, 1998 etc. This would have been great image wise and career wise and would have made 1996 a year in which she could have had something released and increased album sales. Another project I believe was shelved by Mariah Carey was possibly a Christmas album in the year 2000. Notice how she was supposed to release Where Are You Christmas? and the Holy Night music video in 2000 and also the All I Want For Christmas Is You remix song that had the cartoon music video with voice contributions from Lil Bow Wow and Jermaine Dupri SoSo Def etc?
(Tuesday 4 December 2018; 09:03)
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Mariah Carey album sales discrepancy (86,844)
by DivergentIntel from United States of America
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Hello there to all my fellow lambs. I could not help but wonder if Billboard changes or rewrites history or changes the stats it reports. In the annual reporting of each years sales usually posted in January after the entire year that passed is over look at the tabulation sales. In January 1994, it was reported that for her Music Box album, it is said to have sold 3.3 million in 1993 alone for USA sales according to Billboard/Nielsen. Then in January 1995, it was reported that Music Box had sold 2.7 million for the year of 1994 in USA sales alone. 3.3 + 2.7 = 6 million plus. That means that she had sold over 6 million plus in USA sales alone for Music Box in the USA by January 1995 according to Billboard/Nielsen. Also, another thing I am wondering, in these respective reports which were included in Billboard Magazine every January, were these including BMG Music Club store sales etc or did it exclude that from the tabulation? As of November 2018, Music Box is reported to have sold 7.3 million copies in the USA. In 1995, Daydream is reported to have sold 3.9 million copies for USA sales alone. In 1996, Daydream is reported to have sold 3 million copies. That means that by January 1997, Daydream had sold well over in excess of 6.9 million copies. Daydream is said as of November 2018 to have sold 7.7 million copies, although it should be surpassing the 7.8 million mark. Does that tabulation include BMG Club sales and music club store sales or not? Butterfly is said to have sold 2.1 million in 1997 in the USA. In 1998, it is reported to have sold 1.3 million in the USA. That means that by January 1999, it sold over 3.4 million copies. Butterfly today as of November 2018 is said to have sold over 3.8 million copies according the report coverage on her Career sales recently done by Billboard/Nielsen. Rainbow is reported to have sold over 2.1 million in 1999 at lin the USA alone. I can't seem to find a report for how much Rainbow sold for the entire year of 2000, but I suspect it was at least 1 million if not more. In November 2018, it is reported that Mariah sold 2.9 million copies of Rainbow in the USA. The reason why I question what Billboard has reported recently versus the past is because they have become questionable with how they report and edit or change criteria or rules. Remember how Mariah Carey is among the top 2 most awarded/rewarded artists with most Billboard Awards alongside Michael Jackson and Janet Jackson. Yet, in recent years, Billboard has been saying that they only have like 14 or lesser numbers. What are your thoughts on this my fellow Lambs.
(Tuesday 4 December 2018; 08:56)
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Re: Bill (86,812) (86,843)
by TJ from Norway
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Hahaha.
(Tuesday 4 December 2018; 06:26)
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Migrate video (86,842)
by RibbonB from USA
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Here's that missing Migrate video. It's actually pretty good.
(Tuesday 4 December 2018; 03:33)
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Re: Hot 100 #14 (86,835) (86,841)
by 123 from USA
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I don't find it sad at all. She had an amazing chart run that most artists would envy. How many artists can say they had #1 records spanning 2 decades? If she manages to chart again with new material I'd be happy for her but anything at this point is icing on the cake to a career that no one could dream up.
(Tuesday 4 December 2018; 01:59)
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Re: For the life of me (86,838) (86,840)
by Chicago Lamb from USA
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Andrew, I love this album more than Charmbraclet, Memoirs and Elusive Chanteuse. There are songs that I really like on those albums, but Caution is a play all the way through set on repeat. I know you've heard that before here, but its for a good reason. I'm trying to imagine exactly what you were expecting out of a new release. Oh, I listened to E=MC2 recently and agree its a really good album as its held up fairly well.
(Tuesday 4 December 2018; 00:10)
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Mariah in London (86,839)
by Primzy from Slovenia
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Seeing Mariah live for the first time. Only a week until London.
(Monday 3 December 2018; 23:34)
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For the life of me (86,838)
by Andrew from UK
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For the life of me I do not understand, nor, perhaps, will I ever understand why the Mariah albums I cherish most get three stars and the one I like least gets four. But I am happy for her that she has industry respect. I genuinely am. I will continue to love Mariah in the way that I love her. And that's enough for now.
(Monday 3 December 2018; 23:23)
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Re: Bill (86,812) (86,837)
by Bill from the UK
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I hear TJ does car commercials. In Japan.
(Monday 3 December 2018; 22:51)
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Happy anniversary (86,836)
by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
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I just wanted to give a shoutout and happy anniversary love to Charmbracelet which turned 16 years old today. This album contains some of MC’s best writing and storytelling at its finest. Even though the vocals for the most part on this album are subdued I appreciate this album for what it is at a time where MC was considered over and done she proved she can come out fighting and eventually come out victorious. This album was the set up for one of the greatest musical comebacks ever so I thank you Charmbracelet and happy anniversary.
(Monday 3 December 2018; 22:43)
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Re: Hot 100 #14 (86,827) (86,835)
by Edward from USA
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Wow, that's definitely a huge jump. I can see a top five pretty soon. It's sad, but that song could be her last chance at charting so high.
(Monday 3 December 2018; 22:11)
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Re: I feel ashamed (86,824) (86,834)
by B from USA
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Complaining about Mariah's fashion sense or lack thereof while is pointless. It's not like Mariah has ever been a fashion icon. Except for that time she set a fashion trend in 1999 when she wore a pair of jeans with the waist bad cut off in the Heartbreaker video. Besides, her looks were on point while promoting Caution especially her GMA ensemble.
(Monday 3 December 2018; 22:05)
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Re: Norway show (86,828) (86,833)
by 123 from USA
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She sounds really good. These are her best vocals all year. I was a big worried after a year of blah vocals that her Christmas shows were going to be a let down. Her outfits are forgivable as long as she isn't in a body suit singing Silent Night like the year Beyoncé came to see one of her shows.
(Monday 3 December 2018; 22:05)
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Article: The 15 best albums of 2018 (86,832)
by B from USA
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Mariah's Caution released less than a month ago has already made a Best of the Year list. I'm positive she'll make even more. Exciting times to be a fan.
(Monday 3 December 2018; 21:57)
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Re: 8th Grade (86,809) (86,831)
by B from USA
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It's not that deep. I get a Destiny's Child vibe for Caution.
(Monday 3 December 2018; 21:55)
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Re: Seeing MC fourteen years later (86,813) (86,830)
by Lara from Middle East
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Same here. Last time (and only time) I saw her was in Beirut. I've just arrived to Paris to see her concert. Can't wait until it's Friday.
(Monday 3 December 2018; 21:49)
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Re: The Roof, Lullaby, For The Record, and Giving Me Life (86,820) (86,829)
by B from USA
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I thought Mariah and Derek's relationship began before the writing and recording of Butterfly?
(Monday 3 December 2018; 21:46)
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Norway show (86,828)
by Billy from Greece
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Her tone is so gorgeous. I bet she'll get better after each show. I love the way her voice sounds on "The Star". I regret not booking a ticket. 
(Monday 3 December 2018; 21:24)
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Hot 100 #14 (86,827)
by 123 from USA
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Week of December 8th, AIW jumps from 29-14.
(Monday 3 December 2018; 20:41)
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Re: I feel ashamed (86,798) (86,826)
by 123 from USA
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Special K, you got a list going now. Everybody on the hit list. We need a new pic of you with you MC inspired ponytail pointing into the camera - lol. Does Money know about your love for Bryan? Lol j/k.
(Monday 3 December 2018; 18:39)
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Re: Bill (86,804) (86,825)
by 123 from USA
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Bill from the UK. Your response is hilarious. I love your shameless admittance to interloping in others affairs as a best trait. Please continue to show your unapologetic humor on the board.
(Monday 3 December 2018; 18:34)
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Re: I feel ashamed (86,798) (86,824)
by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
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I have watched highlights from the Christmas concert and if people feel ashamed, well I guess they do. We are light years away from the Christmas show when Stella was working with Mariah. I'm realistic I don't expect her to ever completely drop her preference for sexy outfits. It many not be my personal choice, but we know she likes it. If fans don't like an outfit, I totally get that, that's cool but it can be said without publicly shaming her quite so much. If she wants to wear angel wings that light up on stage at Christmas is it really that big of a deal? She wasn't falling out of her dresses and she wasn't wearing a bra and panties on stage.
(Monday 3 December 2018; 18:24)
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Re: 8th Grade (86,805) (86,823)
by george golden from uk
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Exactly.
(Monday 3 December 2018; 16:11)
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