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Re: Walter live videos on instagram (94,770) (94,773)
by T from USA
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Exactly. Whatever transpired between them it probably took two to tangle. But no one can discount the chemistry. And if you’re a true fan of Mariah Carey the artist then you would welcome hearing another Walter A production. Their last being Lead The Way.
(Saturday 1 August 2020; 21:54)
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Re: Charmbracelet (94,760) (94,772)
by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa
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Love this question and it's definitely hard. But here's what I'm feeling today, in order:
1st - Yours This was just after Glitter. That era was sparkly, glossy, shiny... glittery. This as a first single would showcase her voice first, in a smooth and clean and clear production style.
2 - Lullaby I love this song so much. I feel like it's so relatable and it crosses genres. It doesn't sound like anything else from that time and the beginning notes are reminiscent of MJ in the 80s. A slick video could have set this off to show a more mysterious, "shady lady" side of Mariah. Again, offsetting the shine and glimmery pop image of Glitter.
3 - BOTH This was a smart single. Many people have said this is the only song on the album they liked. With many lambs and fans left unsure after her previous era, this is a familiar song, great rendition, strong single in general.
4 - Through The Rain remix with Kelly and Joe This remix is so much better to listen to than the original. The original is an art piece, but it's too heavy to consume imo. The lyrics are so great and I feel like the remix showcases them more. It tells a story and it makes you feel good. It doesn't sound like a ballad. This would have been a great final single for the album.
Honorables
I love Boy (I need you) but the video was not supportive of the song imo. Maybe it would have performed better if it was given a whole different context and image. I also love Clown and had Glitter been successful (as it really should have been) then the purpose of Charmbracelet wouldn't have been to make safe choices in order to reassure fans that she's still got it together. If this was the case, Clown would have been a great edgy but beautiful, pretty but shady song to release. The controversy would have sent it up the charts and again, a great video (I picture WBT shower scene and satin sheets Mariah for it, and Bianca?) would have just set it off. Just for laughs.
If this was a different world, Subtle Invitation would be a single and smash the adult contemporary world sending lounge jazz singers around the world to add it to their live sets. This is one I've my favorite songs on the album.
(Saturday 1 August 2020; 21:17)
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Re: Can't Let Go live (94,749) (94,771)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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I have had Can't Let Go on repeat since yesterday. I dont know why but I hardly ever play it even though I love it. It's timeless and rather haunting.
I dont understand the inclusion of the audio of Make It Happen at Madison Square Garden or VH1 Divas Live. They've surely been played to death so much that nobody cares. If it had been, as per William's suggestion, an audio from Daydream tour in London, for example, that would have been fresh and exciting. The releases were a little on the safe side.
(Saturday 1 August 2020; 15:37)
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Re: Walter live videos on instagram (94,765) (94,770)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Oh, more musings of an immature little drama queen, relatively new to the world of Mariah, fixating hate upon someone just because it suits their little dramatic view of the world as good vs evil. You're a moron.
Walter Afanasieff is responsible for many of Mariah's greatest songs, including All I Want For Christmas Is You and Hero, the two songs by which she is known. He has never to my knowledge been disrespectful of Mariah in interview and has always praised her talent. That he didn't leave his job with the massive company to follow an artist whose popularity and voice were waning and whose behaviour was becoming increasingly erratic was probably - no, absolutely - the right thing to do for him personally.
Mariah spent 5 years in obscurity after Columbia then had success for a couple of years only to fall into obscurity again. She has hardly been on top for 30 years. Nobody ever is. Furthermore, Mariah has not written a popular selling or streaming song in a decade, herself. Given that Walter Afansieff and Mariah Carey used to produce the most amazing music together, you would think that a lamb would be eager for them to take another stab at it. But immaturity wins the day. He's the villain of the piece in the mind of immature little queens who have practically only just learned who he even is and so he is besmirched and his contribution to Mariah's catalogue disregarded.
Daddy obviously left home pretty early on in your developmental stages, didn't he, princess?
(Saturday 1 August 2020; 15:30)
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Emotions and Make It Happen HD (94,769)
by Bill from the UK
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Also, in case anybody missed it, Mariah has uploaded HD versions for the videos of Emotions and Make It Happen on her YouTube/Vevo account. All three Emotions videos are beautiful in my opinion, three of my ultimate favourites.
(Saturday 1 August 2020; 09:46)
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Re: Womp, womp (94,761) (94,768)
by Bill from the UK
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Correct me if I am wrong, but the C&C Club Mix is, I believe, the 12" Club Mix re-titled. I think they are one and the same. Do please let me know what the difference is between to the two though if I am wrong. Make It Happen was missing a remix though. There is an edit of the Extended Version (confusingly also called the Radio Edit, same as the edit of the album version). It is available on the US maxi CD (44K 74189). Also a shame the Can't Let Go edit, that removes the whistle and trims down the beginning, wasn't put out. But, I can't and should not complain about these minor things. It is great what Mariah is doing and I love her for it. Having all this material available is amazing.
(Saturday 1 August 2020; 07:22)
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Re: Walter live videos on instagram (94,765) (94,767)
by Randy from USA
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I didn't listen to the Wally A interview. And I'm not going to. Here's my thing. Did he do her wrong? Possibly yes. But I need everyone to stop acting like he wasn't instrumental to her hits/career and all he did was play piano while she got ideas out of her head. It's ludicrous. He was her writing/producing partner for 6 albums and regardless of their falling out he proved to be a serious part of many of her biggest hits. They had a chemistry. And "All I Want For Christmas" is not a song she just sat at the Casio keyboard and wrote. If MC was that melodically inclined she would've composed wrote arranged all of her own songs like Jewel or Joni Mitchell. Is MC the most talented singer/songwriter ever? IMO yes. But please don't act like Wally A was a hanger-on. He's a musician. Btw he produced My Heart Will Go On for Celine. Not a fluke.
(Saturday 1 August 2020; 06:29)
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Re: Walter live videos on instagram (94,765) (94,766)
by T from USA
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And yet the songs they would do together would probably be pure magic. Just like all the songs they did in the past. Imagine a quarantine album where she and he worked exclusively together, and then released it just before Christmas?
(Saturday 1 August 2020; 04:14)
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Re: Walter live videos on instagram (94,764) (94,765)
by We are Lambily from USA
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"Lovely and genuine." Mariah won't ever work with him again besides he hasn't produced one good song in over a decade or so. Of course we would still to this day talk about him since she gives him clout. I remember this interview from 2004-2006 where she got asked if she would ever work with him and her no was priceless.
"So many I considered Closest to me Turned on a dime and sold me Out dutifully Although that knife was chipping Away at me They turned their eyes away and Went home to sleep" - Petals by Mariah Carey
(Saturday 1 August 2020; 01:48)
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Walter live videos on instagram (94,764)
by Kaj Mandalia from UK
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Hi fellow lambs. Hope you are all safe and well. Just wanted to let you all know Walter did a live video on instagram and he was so sweet and sincere and answered all Mariah questions so respectfully. I think this will be often so please if you can tune in and may be encourage him to maybe get in touch with her to work together again? I know wishful thinking but it would be awesome. He seems so lovely and genuine.
Thought I’d let you all know. Love, Kaj.
(Saturday 1 August 2020; 00:02)
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Make It Happen EP (94,763)
by Brad from USA
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These are truly great remixes and performances. Among her very best. The brass band sounds are epic and have been joyous for me for nearly thirty years now, as I have imagined those trumpets playing as I walk into a crowded room. Why not? This is the stuff her legendary fans are made of too, those that have been there since day one for every bit of it, good and bad alike. I can't wait for the AYNAF remix EP where she scats to no end and those truly are the height of her crown as the remix queen, IMO. Thank you, Mariah for the gifts.
(Friday 31 July 2020; 23:42)
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Re: Emotions EP (94,753) (94,762)
by Jamie from UK
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Yeah I have them already too but nice to get them digitally. I love Dreamlover Bam Jam Soul remix I have that on a single
(Friday 31 July 2020; 23:41)
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Womp, womp (94,761)
by cBerr from Canada
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Just sad. The party's already winding down. Not even the full remix package for Emotions. No "C&C Club Mix" (from the EU Maxi-Single/COL 657403-5). I could say the silver lining is the price point for the EPs, but to lower the bar that much would just be depressing.
(Friday 31 July 2020; 23:32)
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Re: Charmbracelet (94,745) (94,760)
by Joe from United Kingdom
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Million dollar question: if you had to choose 4 songs that should have been released from the album, what would they be and in what order would you have released them?
(Friday 31 July 2020; 23:01)
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Disappointed (94,757) (94,759)
by Edward from USA
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Randy, am I going blind, you're lighter now?
(Friday 31 July 2020; 20:27)
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Be patient (94,758)
by Edward from USA
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If she releases all the goodies online now, there won't be any surprises when the box set comes out. She can't give it all away.
(Friday 31 July 2020; 17:41)
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Re: Disappointed (94,756) (94,757)
by Bill from the UK
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You never know. She may end this whole thing with a pre-debut era special. Demo tape, alternate album takes, Narm convention set etc.
After all, I've got a right to dream.
(Friday 31 July 2020; 17:13)
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Re: Disappointed (94,747) (94,756)
by Mirage_Nunez from America
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Right. I was really hoping we got the demo version of Vision of Love. I had my fingers crossed because she always said it was better than the album version.
(Friday 31 July 2020; 15:47)
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Emancipation of Mimi vinyl reissue (94,755)
by ksquarred from paris
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Apparently Universal will reissue TEOM in vinyl and it should be available in August. It is already listed on Amazon UK. The original release costs 200 € nowadays, so that's really excellent news.
(Friday 31 July 2020; 14:39)
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Emotions lyrics (94,754)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Mariah has released her handwritten lyrics for the Emotions 12" Remix. For those of you that haven't seen them yet, I've typed the intro out for you:
Yoogat me feelennng Eeeeeyymohohohohohshuhuhuhuhnzehheeairehehee Hyyyuhuhuhhh Hyyeeehyyyuhuhuhuhhhhhuhuhuhuhhhhuhuhuhairuhuhairhhhuh Hyyyyeeehyhyhhuhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
(Friday 31 July 2020; 14:01)
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Re: Emotions EP (94,752) (94,753)
by Bill from the UK
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And Make It Happen. Yay. I love these remix EPs and having them all digitally. I do already have them across CDs and 12" singles, but am looking forward to is entering the rarer territory. From Music Box onwards some remixes were quite rare (Bam Jam Soul of Dreamlover, Video Edit of AYNAF, Crash Dub Crash of JTTW).
(Friday 31 July 2020; 10:25)
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Emotions EP (94,752)
by Jamie from UK
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The Emotions remixes are out.
(Friday 31 July 2020; 08:31)
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Re: Hopes for MC30 (94,748) (94,751)
by Bill from the UK
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Ditto.
(Friday 31 July 2020; 08:28)
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Memoirs (94,750)
by We are Lambily from USA
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I can't wait for her to set the record straight about Walter, I hate that dude even more than Tommy. People love to shade Mariah and say she only pops up during Christmas. But I swear the only time he is mentioned these days when Christmas comes and he wants more acknowledgment from Mariah.
Mariah Carey is the greatest thing that happened to Mariah. The greatest thing that happened to Walter is Mariah.
(Friday 31 July 2020; 04:56)
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Can't Let Go live (94,749)
by enwar00 from usa
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I am definitely not disappointed that she posted this performance of Can't Let Go that I've never seen and have watched a few times today. Simply flawless. As her songs continue to age, for me this one continues to go higher on the list of standouts and I think it's one of her best.
(Friday 31 July 2020; 04:55)
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