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Re: Mariah & Whitney (76,961) (76,981) by 123 from USA This is so magical. I love the vocal changes Mariah did in this clip. So glad we at least got one song out of them. I remember Whitney being quoted in an Ebony interview that she thought Mariah was a smart girl and wanted to do additional projects with her in the future. Shame this never happened. (Sunday 9 July 2017; 05:21)

Re: Wrapping up Vegas (76,968) (76,980) by Licia from USA They gave JD the blues and then they got mad at him for defending himself against them. Lol I've always said he was never given a fair shot. Who knows how that era would have turned out if Mariah had been fully committed to it. Quite honestly everyone involved dropped the ball from the record company on down to Mariah. JD just got the biggest backlash and Mariah never defended him in the way she defends Stella. I believe he really wanted to help her, but he got a lot of push back from Mariah. I'm just glad they managed to remain friends even though it seems they took a break away from each other. We lambs tend to blame everyone around her when things don't go right (I'm guilty of doing it in the past, but I'm better now lol). It's a never ending cycle. Lol. (Sunday 9 July 2017; 02:40)

Suggestions (76,979) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) I think MC should work with anyone who will force her to move her pen beyond the uninspired stuff as of late. Honestly Miguel has not been a hit since his second album and since Beautiful he has not had a hit song or album. But as an artist I appreciate his music. Not a Frank Ocean fan at all he is definitely overrated. I would not mind her working with Happy Perez and Bruno production team. I think should also try some 90 inspired producers as that sound is on trend but add the MC flare like with Memiors that is the Tricky Stewart Dream sound all over it and production wise the album became stale very quickly. (Sunday 9 July 2017; 02:13)

Re: Wrapping up Vegas / Anthony for manager (76,972) (76,978) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I think JD and Randy left instead of them being fired. I mean they stepped down from their roles and were not fired. Stella is still around because she would never willingly step down. Anthony should never have been fired. He should have been kept as her creative director for her live shows. He kept things real and didn't mind showing his annoyance when Mariah wouldn't cooperate. Anthony was the only professional one too, look at what a great job he did with Beyonce's performance right after he left Mariah's team. This will be Mariah's first Vegas leg without Anthony. Wonder what changes they made. (Sunday 9 July 2017; 01:05)

Re: The Emancipation of Mimi / photoshoot / LA Reid (76,970) (76,977) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter TEOM cover was so legendary, I'm glad LA pushed her in that direction if it was his idea. The cover just exuded confidence and sex appeal. Perfect cover for an album that went on to become iconic. I remember Mariah talking about how she almost changed the cover because people were saying that she looks like Beyonce on the cover and so Mariah wanted to change it (not because she doesn't like Beyonce) because she didn't want people to think that she was ripping off someone's style but then she decided to keep it. I'm glad she did because I love that cover and the platinum edition one. (Sunday 9 July 2017; 01:00)

Re: Wrapping up Vegas (76,967) (76,976) by B from USA Exactly. JD has way more connections than Stella and he's the head of So So Def Records. He's also a success talented songwriter and producer. I think he knows that he needs to modernize his sound (just like Mariah). Both JD and Mariah need to update their signature sounds. They need to embrace modern R&B, Alternative R&B, pop, funk, and neo soul like Miguel and Frank Ocean. Mariah's last hit was when she did so. Why she didn't work with the same writer and producers Frank and Mugue work with instead of Mike Will Made It or whatever he calls himself instead of their producers is beyond me. Mariah used to have her finger on the pulse of the music that needed to be made. She used to set trends. She invented (she may not have actually invented it but made it popular). She also needs to work with The Smeezingtons, Bruno Mars, and The Weekend. She has to write great lyrics like she used to simple poetic, and heartfelt. If she did all of the [...] she'd be able to make a comeback. Of course she's going to have to humble herself and look and sound her best. She needs to dress like she did during her stint on AI. (Sunday 9 July 2017; 00:42)

Re: Licia/Mimi (76,965) (76,975) by Lila from United States I hope not. The only thing the person's be doing is putting me to sleep. (Sunday 9 July 2017; 00:04)

New unheard Fantasy vocals (acapella) (76,974) by Bill from the UK Hi all, found this video on YouTube with some unused acapella vocals from Fantasy. It sounds like it may have been a re-sung version for the remix as she sings the "whatcha gon' do when you get out of jail" line. (Saturday 8 July 2017; 23:23)

That picture (76,973) by Terna from Nigeria Lila, Nikki, Eduoard, Tommy Brad, Matthew, Dv, Dav, Sheila, Robin, Monster, Betty, Gabe. Butterfly. And the list goes on. Now what do these people have in common? (Saturday 8 July 2017; 23:21)

Re: Wrapping up Vegas / Anthony for manager (76,972) by 123 from USA It seems like if her manager was a current friend like Randy and JD, one misstep and she fires them. I have no idea the current manager has lasted this long. I have no idea why Mariah wouldn't listen to JD about Vegas, going on late night shows and performing live, she did the bare minimum with MIAM promo. It's like she ignored most of his suggestions and felt ok doing so because they were friends. She left him out to dry when the fans were attacking him. That's supposed to be your close friend, back him up, she backed up Stella for defending her with that tacky unprofessional unprofessional verbiage. That goes to my next topic. I want Anthony to be her manager. Yes he is a diva and yes the whole, "they want ass, they want tits" quote but other than that, I liked everything else he did for her. He gave her some basic two steps so she wasn't just standing there, especially on her songs where she has live vocals mixed in with pre-record moments. He brought her attention to the post from the old team saying they are on a sinking ship, the tacky butt shot that was posted, the forcing rehearsal on Mariah, making sure her tour looked great. He didn't have an issue bringing what was wrong to her attention instead of telling her how great she is. NYE wasn't his fault, it was hers for depending on pre-records. If the audience heard dead silence or her just randomly talking instead of her pre-records coming on during Emotions, and the album version or even the live pre-record of WBT, she wouldn't have gotten the backlash she got. She needs to stop drinking, focus on rehearsal, and sleep. P.S. Leave the current manager for TV productions you have always wanted to do and hire him for the music portion. (Saturday 8 July 2017; 23:13)

Re: Wrapping up Vegas (76,968) (76,971) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I was always team JD though. At most I said that hiring JD was a bad idea because Mariah would not listen to JD as a manager. I've been dragged for being team JD even before (especially during the time when Mariah wasn't hanging out with him and also after he did the interview where he said some stuff that pissed fans off) so ya I am not changing stories here, and I will certainly never be team Stella. (Saturday 8 July 2017; 23:05)

The Emancipation of Mimi / photoshoot / LA Reid (76,970) by Billy from Greece Reading LA Reid's book, he mentions that he rejected the first photoshoot for the album's cover, telling her "I need you to look expensive." I wonder which of the photos were supposed to be the original artwork. (Saturday 8 July 2017; 22:54)

Re: "I Don't" reached 19 million views, what do you think? (76,960) (76,969) by May from Denmark Don't under estimate the Latino public. As someone who is from South America and a teen when Mariah was at her peak and J-Lo just appeared, even back then tv music channels had J-Lo videos running more often than Mariah's and she also got more radio spins, overall the Spanish ones which made J-Lo a favorite one, Christina Aguilera also got a big boost when she introduced her Spanish version. Never understood why Mariah didn't do a bigger effort for that market. She could have had it so easily, her song Mi Todo was really a hit and a prefered one over the original. People will always go for their home language. J-Lo bought the market with her Latin flavor, so no matter if she only released songs in English from now on, the Latinos have her back. As for visuals she didn't offer anything Latinos haven't seen back then but it is the fact she looked homely, like the pretty girl next door with this American coolness and a gorgeous backside haha. (Saturday 8 July 2017; 22:04)

Re: Wrapping up Vegas (76,967) (76,968) by Bill from the UK Lol, the lambs absolutely crucified JD for no reason, and now he's deemed a not so bad manager by comparison to Stella. So when Stella is no longer her manager and somebody else is at the helm, I can't wait for the "bring back Stella" posts lol. Maybe the common denominator in all this mess is actually Mariah? Hashtag just saying. (Saturday 8 July 2017; 19:47)

Re: Wrapping up Vegas (76,966) (76,967) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter While it's true that MIAM era was a mess but it's absolutely true that JD is a million times better as a manager than Stella. It's not hidden anymore that Mariah was going through personal problems which may have kept JD from really doing much with the era and use his full potential. At the very least JD is from the industry and has connections within the industry, something Stella clearly doesn't. Also JD had the decency to step down from his managerial role when he figured it wouldn't work, something Stella would never do. Two and a half years in and I am still baffled as to how Mariah even thought this was a good idea to take on Stella and the clan especially since Stella has messed up a lot. (Saturday 8 July 2017; 18:07)

Re: Wrapping up Vegas (76,942) (76,966) by B from USA Ratner was filming most of the second night of the residency so they filmed something else that night besides the performance scenes for the Infinity video (which was filmed afterwards). If she does release a DVD of her Vegas residency I hope they use first and second nights because she slayed those dates. I'm hoping all of this negative press (and her credit card being denied) had finally opened Mariah's eyes to Stella's ulterior motives, using Mariah to gain fame for herself and her daughters. JD was a better manager than Stella. (Saturday 8 July 2017; 17:53)

Re: Licia/Mimi (76,964) (76,965) by Licia from USA Lila you just don't know you are about to get a full ten page Wikipedia/research post as a response. You are in my prayers my child. Lol. (Saturday 8 July 2017; 14:08)

Re: Licia/Mimi (76,956) (76,964) by Lila from United States Basically. How anyone can't see that little fact I don't know but it remains. She's got a bunch of inept and incompetent people traveling around with her 24/7, who's she's given legitimate job titles to but who were not right to fill the roles in the first place and have proven themselves as unable to bring anything to the table but their mere presence. In any other job environment, if that were true and yet the person or people were still around, everyone else would immediately call the situation for what it is: nepotism or favoritism. She's certainly not related to these dimwits. It's all about keeping bodies around so she doesn't feel 100% lonely. (Saturday 8 July 2017; 13:50)

Re: Mariah & Whitney (76,961) (76,963) by Licia from USA Thanks for sharing. Although I'm glad we got one song from them, really wish that they would have had more opportunities to record together. Instead of the record companies trying to pit them against each other in the beginning they should have capitalized on all that talent. With Mariah's writing and both of their voices there's no telling where they could have taken this. (Saturday 8 July 2017; 12:48)

Re: Licia/Mimi (76,956) (76,962) by MusicfanJ from Germany Ribbon B. Mimi is paying for her fake lifestyle of fake friends and hangers on. Guess it is "win win" I completely agree with it. All fake things are very expensive. Mariah would really "win" if she would surround herself with real people. I was never a fan of this Hollywood-lifestyle. It had destroyed too many talented people. I think Mariah should choose the middle. Enjoy here and there luxury but without the plastic and fake people. I wonder if she will ever realize that sometimes less can be more. (Saturday 8 July 2017; 11:08)

Mariah & Whitney (76,961) by Billy from Greece The rarity of this. (Saturday 8 July 2017; 10:53)

Re: "I Don't" reached 19 million views, what do you think? (76,912) (76,960) by 123 from USA I don't think JLo has that many views because of the Latino market. Mariah and JLo are from two different eras. JLo is a visual artist. You can trust that in her videos she is going to look good, give you a great dance routine, and exude sex appeal naturally. Had Mariah rose to fame in 1999 with songs like Vision of Love, Hero, Dreamlover, Fantasy, Honey etc would have had more views. 19 Million is great in this day in age with no label support and barely any promotion other than the "burning of the actual wedding dress rumor" that circulated social media. It caused all the kids to click and watch the video for this scene. It's too bad because a lot of the "reaction videos" on YouTube were positive about the song. Unfortunately she didn't promote it so it came and went like most things on social media. (Saturday 8 July 2017; 08:06)

Re: Wild Thoughts / chorus girl Mariah (76,917) (76,959) by 123 from USA I've always wanted her to take more features like this with big artists o' the day as long as the song is good. Give her the choruses and bridge. Maybe even a verse. Why not? I felt her chorus girl collabo with Busta gave her a slight resurgence in 03 with the top 5 "I Know What You Want". I knew the song was going to pick up when it was played in Chicago clubs and I could hear all the women say "My song is on." Then I heard the song everywhere, pouring out of car radios, clubs, and top 40 stations. During that time there were a lot of songs Ashanti was featured in that I wished Mariah had done because she would have sounded great on those records. (Saturday 8 July 2017; 07:53)

New music (76,958) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) From what I have seen so far MC has locked in studio time with Ty dollar $ and if the rumor is true about Bruno what a pleasant surprise that is very much welcomed. (Saturday 8 July 2017; 06:27)

(76,957) by Maurice from USA This would make a great album name or book, just a thought. (Saturday 8 July 2017; 04:45)

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